Democratic Lawyer Marc Elias Under Fire For Suggesting Georgia Voters Will Be Unable To Correctly Identify Their Driver’s License Number

Georgia Department of Driver Services

We have previously discussed the controversial history of Marc Elias, including allegations that he lied about the funding of Steele Dossier by the Clinton campaign. Elias has also been criticized for challenging elections when he and other Democratic lawyers denounced Republican challenges as a threat to democracy. Now, Elias (who is heading a new group called “Democracy Docket”) is again under intense criticism after a tweet that some have called inherently racist.

Democrats have used the recent Georgia election law as a rallying cry for federalizing elections by labelling the law, as described by President Biden, “Jim Crow on steroids.” Biden has been repeatedly called out for demonstrably false statements about the law.  Elias has been arguing that the law is a barrier for black and minority voters. He is being denounced for a tweet where he suggested that Georgia voters could not be expected to be able to read their driver’s licenses correctly — a statement that seemed to refer to minority voters who would be disproportionately impacted by such a requirement.

Elias tries to explain by the new law is such a barrier to voting by noting that “The new Georgia law will require voters to submit ID to vote by mail. If they use their driver’s license, they need to provide the #. One of the two numbers below is correct. If they put the other, it will be rejected.” He then includes an image of a Georgia driver’s license with two separate numbers highlights and asks “Are you sure you would pick the right one?”

 

Elias is suggesting that the numbers will be hopelessly confusing and thus effectively bar black voters from participating in elections.

Polls show that 72 percent of American adults approve of requiring photo identification to vote, but they have not faced with the daunting challenge of finding the driver’s license number.

If voters cannot deduce that the “DL” number refers to “Driver’s License” number, the form itself would make this obvious by only have boxes for nine numbers as well as instructions on where to find the number. There should be a concern for how errors are addressed in such systems, including the use of provisional votes or other means to address errors in writing down such numbers. Mistakes can occur that the system should allow for notice and corrections to be made.

Previously, the main argument against verified voting rules was that many minority voters do not have identification cards.  This argument suggests that many who do have such cards will have difficulty figuring out their DL number.

Whatever the arguments against verified voting, insulting the intelligence of minority voters is not likely the best option.

 

136 thoughts on “Democratic Lawyer Marc Elias Under Fire For Suggesting Georgia Voters Will Be Unable To Correctly Identify Their Driver’s License Number”

  1. The Georgia law lists DL number as only one of the list of ways to verify identity. Last 4 of the SSN is another way. If someone can’t remember their ID # or their SSN, then they can still submit a utility bill.

    Democrats don’t say Latinos or Asians or Latvians are too ignorant to figure out how to get an ID or read that ID number. They claim black people can’t. They have always claimed that black people are incapable of getting ID. It has always been a puzzle why the country didn’t explode at the obvious racism of low expectations.

    The Democrat Party never has had very high expectations of black people. They have also been quick to attack black people who don’t vote Democrat.

    Not much has changed besides the pointy white hat.

    Democrats who claim the Georgia law is Jim Crow are lying. Shame on anyone who believes that lie when a few minutes of reading the bill would disproven it.

  2. Lying by omission. The media does it again.

    When a motorist drove into barricades in Washington some in the media were quick to speculate that it was an act of terrorism by Trump-loving white supremacists.

    As more was learned this was Reuters’ take on it:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-capitol-security-idUKKBN2BP1EZ?taid=60677a2ca0a3570001acbed4&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

    They manage to get all the way through without revealing that the driver is black rather than white. They somehow manage to avoid saying that he is a Black Muslim follower of Farrakhan.

    Oh yes, it apparently isn’t terrorism anymore either.

    Trust nothing in the media. You likely are not getting the whole story.

    Rule of thumb, if the race isn’t mentioned the perp is probably black.

    Rule of thumb, if we are told it isn’t terrorism and that religion has nothing to do with it, then it may well be terrorism and the perp is probably a Muslim.

    For some reason Hasidic Jews and Amish never seem to do things like this. Buddhists don’t either near as I can tell. But religion never has anything to do with it.

      1. Registry for knives? Soon I imagine. I suspect they already have a registry for voices and yours and mine are near the top.

      2. Right after you argue that cars shouldn’t be registered, and people shouldn’t have to obtain a driver’s license, and people shouldn’t have to carry car insurance.

        1. Anon– Yes, now that you mention it I recall that part in the Constitution, the one about the right to drive without a license or registration or wheels on public roads.

            1. It does specify citizens. Which means lawmakers shall establish through positive law the requirements for voters to prove eligibility as citizens of this country, the various states and districts.

              1. You should read more carefully. The Constitution doesn’t limit voting to citizens. It only says that citizens’ right to vote can’t be abridged on the basis of age for those 18 and over.

                It is federal and state laws that prevent non-citizens from voting, not the Constitution. Prior to those laws, non-citizens voted in many states and some federal elections.

                1. Anonymous now holds that Mexico can vote in our elections. How about Pakistan, too? How about Putin? Oh, that’s right. He’s a Trump supporter so that makes him illegal.

                  I was joking above, but Anonymous is not. Mexicans who have never set foot in America will be absentee voting in our elections if the Democrats succeed in setting up their one-party state. For every millennial who finally realizes to his horror that the Democrats are irredeemably corrupt, there will be two Guatemalans to cancel out his vote.

                  That includes your vote, Anonymous, if you ever wise up.

                  1. Diogenes, you should also work on your reading comprehension. What part of “It is federal and state laws that prevent non-citizens from voting” do you not understand?

                    1. Those laws are inoperative once you do away with voter ID. Now your troll buddies might argue that the registered voter rolls will prevent or at least contain any fraud. A shocking number of precincts (in the usual places where one might expect fraud) had more votes than registered voters in 2020. Those votes were counted anyway because guys like you insisted.

                      So yes, you are a de facto supporter of Waziristan voting in our elections.

                      Someday, your vote might get canceled out by Democrats, but I’m sure you’re convinced the end justifies the means.

                    2. “A shocking number of precincts (in the usual places where one might expect fraud) had more votes than registered voters in 2020.”

                      Prove it. I can be convinced, but I need proof.

                      “yes, you are a de facto supporter of Waziristan voting in our elections.”

                      No, I’m not, though that won’t prevent you from lying about me because you find it convenient to do so.

                      “I’m sure you’re convinced the end justifies the means.”

                      You shouldn’t be sure, since you’re wrong. I don’t understand why so many people here pretend to read other people’s minds, when no one can read minds.

                2. The Constitution doesn’t limit voting to citizens.

                  Try again and this time try reading for comprehension.

                  From the U.S. Constitution:

                  AMENDMENT XIV
                  Section 1.
                  All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
                  Defines who is considered a citizen.

                  AMENDMENT XV
                  Section 1.
                  The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–
                  Specifies citizens as defined in XIV.

                  AMENDMENT XIX
                  The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
                  Once again, specifies citizens as defined in XIV.

                  AMENDMENT XXIV
                  Section 1.
                  The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
                  And again…

                  From the Georgia constitution:

                  Paragraph I. Method of voting. Elections by the people shall be by secret ballot and shall be conducted in accordance with procedures provided by law.
                  Paragraph II. Right to register and vote. Every person who is a citizen of the United States and a resident of Georgia as defined by law, who is at least 18 years of age and not disenfranchised by this article, and who meets minimum residency requirements as provided by law shall be entitled to vote at any election by the people. The General Assembly shall provide by law for the registration of electors.

                  The State of Georgia decides the procedures to verify those voting meet the eligibility requirements per the constitution. Now, what portion if any of the Georgia election law is unconstitutional?

                  1. Work on your reading comprehension, Olly. None of the amendments you quoted limit voting to citizens. They provide protection for citizens’ voting, but none says that only citizens can vote, and if you look at US history, many states allowed non-citizens to vote prior to the passage of federal and state laws outlawing it.

                    1. Now that you admit constitutional laws require proof of citizenship to be eligible to vote, then every citizen that wants to exercise that right has the responsibility to provide the proof as required by law. This also means that it would be unconstitutional to pass voting laws that would enable non-eligible voters to vote.

                    2. “Work on your reading comprehension, Olly. “

                      Typical nastiness from this fellow. In reality there is a bit of murkiness with regard to the question at hand.

                      However, a lot of the murkiness is due to twisting of words. To avoid that problem one should take note of solid facts.

                      1) The Supreme Court DENIES voting is a right.
                      2) Non-citizens have no right to vote.

                  2. Presumably unconstitutional laws are struck down, so the vast majority of laws are constitutional laws, Olly. I already said that “It is federal and state laws that prevent non-citizens from voting, not the Constitution.” Glad that you agree.

                    “This also means that it would be unconstitutional to pass voting laws that would enable non-eligible voters to vote.”

                    Nope, it doesn’t mean that. It’s constitutional either way. Citizens are simply provided with constitutional protections that non-citizens don’t enjoy.

        2. I do appreciate your willingness to take on the role of blog buffoon. 😘

        3. What does driving have to do with our inherent ‘rights’? It appears that there is a lot of confusion on the left about what ‘rights’ are. In a fashion the answer to that question is based on principles. Maybe that means the left has no principles so how would the left know what a ‘right’ is?

      3. Knives are arms and Americans enjoy the absolute right to keep and bear them.

      4. Here’s a novel idea. Let’s ask the derelict Supreme Court if Congress has any power to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.

  3. Democrat party has no problem having enough volunteers to to go out, door to door “harvesting” ballots. Why can’t they send the same people to help voters fill out absentee ballot application.

    The exact same solution to the Incomprehensibly complicated process of getting a free govt issued ID

  4. Why is the grammar on this blog so poor? It really calls into question the writer’s intelligence, and probably that of the reader’s also.

    1. Probably because this is intended to be casual and fast for otherwise busy people rather than a page full of doctoral theses.

      I like it that way.

      Are you having trouble understanding things written here?

      If so, I don’t think improved grammar and proof reading will help with that problem.

    2. Why is the grammar on this blog so poor?

      You must have been infected.

      Pro tip: Your use of the conjunction and in this sentence is not connecting two independent clauses. It really calls into question the writer’s intelligence, and probably that of the reader’s also. Therefore, the use of a comma after the and is poor grammar. Hint: You can tell independent clauses because each one could stand on their own as complete sentences.

      See, you can come on the Turley blog and even get grammar advice at no charge. You’re welcome.

      1. Pro tip #2:

        “. . . that of the reader’s also.” Should be: “. . . that of the reader’s [,] also.”

    3. Jorso47

      Yet here you are reading it and taking the time to whine.

    4. ” It really calls into question the writer’s intelligence”

      Why did you use the word “really”? It was an unnecessary use of a word. I suppose the reason you included the word “really” was that you didn’t bother to adequately proofread what you wrote. Nothing wrong with that, but take note you criticized writing skills where you were deficient in your own.

  5. Someone (any age, sex, race, “color,” heritage) who cannot enter correct information for voting – whether numbers, letters, DOB, name, address – is too dumb to vote.

  6. I just read what Marc Elias said. He didn’t say voters could not read the numbers but rather that one had to chose the correct one. I don’t know that I would be able to chose with out some guidance as to which number the State wanted. This is Georgia for gods sake they want the voter to make a mistake. When a site wants you to chose the right number to sign in or register they provide and exemplar. That is what Elias did. I’m sure that’s why conservatives are angry. They were counting on mistakes by any voter it would disenfranchise.

    Turkey, you are an embarrassment.

    1. He didn’t say voters could not read the numbers but rather that one had to chose the correct one.

      If they are too incompetent to get an ID or figure how to complete a mail-in ballot application, they might be doing the community a service by disenfranchising themselves. Lord knows, they might mistake the letter R for the letter D and then the Democrats would need to trot out those missing ballot boxes. There is a reason after all that we don’t have universal suffrage.

      The Reason Why Voting Is Restricted
      A closer examination of the subject shows us the motive which causes the right of suffrage to be based upon the supposition of incapacity. The motive is that the elector or voter does not exercise this right for himself alone, but for everybody. The most extended elective system and the most restricted elective system are alike in this respect. They differ only in respect to what constitutes incapacity. It is not a difference of principle, but merely a difference of degree. If, as the republicans of our present-day Greek and Roman schools of thought pretend, the right of suffrage arrives with one’s birth, it would be an injustice for adults to prevent women and children from voting. Why are they prevented? Because they are presumed to be incapable. And why is incapacity a motive for exclusion? Because it is not the voter alone who suffers the consequences of his vote; because each vote touches and affects everyone in the entire community; because the people in the community have a right to demand some safeguards concerning the acts upon which their welfare and existence depend.
      Frederic Bastiat

      1. “If they are too incompetent to get an ID or figure how to complete a mail-in ballot application, they might be doing the community a service by disenfranchising themselves.”

        Next you’ll argue that they should lose their speech rights too.

        1. Next you’ll argue that they should lose their speech rights too.

          Learn the difference between positive and negative rights and then come back and apologize for qualifying for disenfranchisement.

          1. LMAO that you think I don’t know the difference and that you so desire to insult that you’ll make false claims in order to do it.

        2. Anonymous – it is Democrats who oppose free speech. Cancel culture, organized mobs that target parents who disagree with racist Critical Race Theory intruding into school curriculum, threatening violence against conservative speakers invited to universities, trying to financially ruin those who voice political dissent…it’s all an attack on free speech by the Left.

          When they can’t defend their position, they have to prevent anyone from publicly disagreeing with them.

    2. JH

      Appreciate your honesty in admitting that you too have problems entering the right number.

      Even if I hadn’t recognized you as a Dem from your posts, your statement confirmed that you are a true blue Dem.

    3. Injustice homey , are you for real ?. Oh wait this is marky elias using an AKA. Your argument is vapid and all but proves what demoratzis really think of their minority pawns.

    4. “This is Georgia for gods sake”

      You and Marc Elias go together like peas and carrots, Holmes.

      Are you such a simplistic putz that you think that all black people who were born and raised in Georgia are uneducated idiots?

      I bet you’re a big fan of LBJ.

  7. The simplest response is being missed here, however. When you type in your personal ID type on the online web site to request your vote by mail, it is going to automatically only recognize numbers that “make sense,” just like they do for telephone numbers, social security numbers, etc. So if you put in a number with the wrong number of digits, etc., it will automatically bounce it back. Anyone who has every accidentally put in a zip code instead of phone number, etc., or zip code instead of SSN, will understand exactly how this works. The systems are designed to prevent putting in the wrong number, so it would use you to look at your license again, if you put in the wrong GA LN and put in the different number. This is computer 101 stuff. With respect to all, this question by Mr. Elias is based on actually lack of online computer experience. We really don’t need all the political debate, it is simply a failure to understand how things actually work.

    Here in Maryland I had to put in my license number to get a mail in ballot. And if I put the wrong type of number or a number with the wrong number of digits, it would simply bounce back – like anything you do in ordering anything on the Internet – a credit card number, etc.

  8. “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

    – Alexander Tytler, Alexis de Tocqueville, Henning W. Prentis
    _______________________________________________

    Severe voting restrictions are innate, imperative and inarguable in the United States of America, a republic and form of democracy.

    Restrictions on the vote were first implemented by the Greeks, then the Romans and finally the American Founders.

    An election is a fraud in the absence of definitive identification and total control at a polling place on “…the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.”

    Turnout was 11.6% by design in 1788.

    The American Founders required voters to be male, European, 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres.

    The American Founders required citizens to be “…free white person(s)…,” a de facto vote restriction.
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    “the people are nothing but a great beast…

    I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

    – Alexander Hamilton
    _________________

    “The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”

    “If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”

    – Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775
    _______________________________________

    “[We gave you] a republic, if you can keep it.”

    – Ben Franklin, 1787
    ________________

    “[We gave you] a republic, if you can take it back.”

    – Ben Franklin, 2021
    ________________

    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    – Declaration of Independence, 1776

  9. This is no different than Affirmative Action, which requires believing that blacks are too stupid to get into school or jobs without a quota system. It’s also no different than blaming “systemic racism” for blacks’ lack of success instead of their lack of strong family structure.

    1. Tim Cook condemned election laws like Georgia’s – he’s just the latest CEO speaking out on voter-suppression concerns

      – Yahoo News
      ___________

      You can create a new Apple ID in the App Store, or in your device settings.

      – Apple Support
      ____________

      All you need is your full name, date of birth, an email address, and phone number. Not sure if you have an Apple ID, or forgot what it is? To find your Apple ID, enter your name and email address at iforgot.apple.com.

      Open the App Store.
      Click Sign In, then click Create Apple ID. …
      Follow the onscreen steps. …
      Enter your credit card and billing information, then click Continue. …
      Check your email for a verification email from Apple and verify your email address.

      – Apple.com
      __________

      ETC.

      1. Excellent point, but too simplistic due to lack of sagacity. It leaves out one minute detail. You use your Apple ID to purchase”things” from Apple without a photo ID. The reason for this “Ease” is that Apple will not ship anything to you until the Credit Card Company that you listed confirms that Apple will be paid. Elections are different.

    2. Can you say “Face Recognition” and/or “Thumbprint” for iphone access?

    3. @anonymous

      Having an average an average IQ of 87 (which is 1 standard deviation lower than the white average) doesn’t help either. The poor family structure and other things such as disproportionate criminal behavior, poorer aggregate academic performance is a result of this, not vice versa.

      antonio

  10. Leftists love to strip minorities of agency and ability to act an individuals. That’s why they seem to take it personally when they realize I am not a victim or need their help. They really believe their own propaganda. Never had too many Hispanics get angry when they learn my views (not that my views depend on their approval or blessing – btw).

  11. Also there not that many DMV offices in Georgia, and there are over a million people who live more then 10 miles from a DMV office, most of which are only open a few days a week during the day. If you are reliant on public transportation or work during the day, then you will have much difficulty getting an ID.

    1. If I can’t figure out how to obtain a photo ID, and one that would be provided gratis if I were poor, I have larger problems. Countries like Canada and Mexico are quite strict with voting ID requirements. Guess those governments are run by “white supremacists” too.

      antonio

    2. How do you get a job without an ID?

      If your late teenage child claimed they couldn’t get a job because they didn’t have an ID, what would you do?

      Would you tell them “that’s okay, I understand, how long do you think you can exist in our society without having one?
      How are you going to buy alcohol or cigarettes when you become old enough to partake?”

      1. The list of IDs for voting is much more narrow then needed to get a job. Also there are stay-at-home parents and caretakers, the disabled, and others that never needed an ID.
        Also needing an ID to get a job is nothing but a burdensome regulation on businesses.

        1. @mollyG

          When did leftists suddenly become concerned that any regulation might be “too burdensome” for businesses?

        2. MollyG – a photo ID is necessary to be a fully functioning member of society. You need an ID to cash a check, get a document notarized such as a home loan, create a POA or medical directive, buy cough syrup, open a bank account, pick up curbside for some online orders, buy spray paint, buy alcohol, attend a DNC primary in person (they also verified your identity to vote in the online event in 2020), rent an apartment, rent a hotel room…

          The list of activities that require an ID is long and varied. You’re very limited if you don’t have an ID. Luckily, states like Georgia provide ID for free, which not only helps people vote, but allows them to conduct any business transaction that requires ID.

          Why do you need an ID to get a job? To detect identity theft, social security fraud, and to conduct a background check where required. In order to volunteer at my child’s school, prior to Covid, I had to get a background check and provide ID each and every time I came. If you have a business that sends employees to people’s homes, you’d better run a criminal background check. A rapist could just give you a false name and then get a job as a repairman, for instance. At least requiring ID somewhat discourages criminals trying to hide their history and putting customers at risk.

          The Democrat Party are rather infamous for creating burdensome regulations for businesses. For instance, if a bathroom mirror is 1/4 inch too low, they can be sued for not following the ADL. NY bakeries can’t have crumbs on a cutting board. CA campgrounds need a permit and 2 years of wrangling with various government agencies just to fill a hole. Requiring ID s only burdensome to a business that wanted to hire illegal aliens, people dodging child support, or criminals hiding their identities like a convicted pedophile who wanted to work at an elementary school.

    3. Pls don’t speak on that. You make us all sound so stupid which we are not. There are many, many DMV offices in the state. Some are even open on Saturday. This week because of Easter, it is closed on Sunday and Monday, but clearly open the rest of the week. Your comments are insulting. Just stop.

  12. This will disenfranchise people. If you make a single error writing down the number on either the registration or ballot then you are disenfranchised. If you get a new ID between the time you register and the time you vote (say if you ID expires during that time) then you are disenfranchised. This is just a unnecessary bureaucratic step that does nothing other then deny people the right to vote. It is Jim Crow, but the at least the people where honest that the old Jim Crow was racist.

    1. If you make a single error writing down the number on either the registration or ballot then you are disenfranchised.

      That is a bald-faced lie. If they make an error that prevents them from voting by mail, they will still be able to vote on election day.

      If you get a new ID between the time you register and the time you vote (say if you ID expires during that time) then you are disenfranchised.

      Two-for-two. The driver’s license number does not change when you renew your license.

      This is just a unnecessary bureaucratic step that does nothing other then deny people the right to vote.

      Congratulations! You scored a perfect 100% in LYING YOUR A$$ OFF!

    2. I guess the IRS must “disenfranchise” people every day then. Have you ever written down the wrong number on your tax form? That’s worse than an “unnecessary bureaucratic step.” Does this affect all those “disenfranchised” people you are referring to? Also, how do those people fly? Buy Sudafed? Visit the doctor who takes their Medicaid or Medicare?

      This “disenfranchise” argument is insulting to blacks, as is this “Jim Crow” nonsense.

    3. Actually, Molly, if a new DL is issued it usually has the same number as the old one, it is only the issue and expiration date that changes. Birth dates don’t change, etc. So, I supposed you also think people are too stupid to figure it out.

    4. MollyG – I have little patience for people who promote wild claims that a law is racist or designed to disenfranchise people when they clearly did not read the law. There is a list of ways to prove their identity, including DL number, SSN, or utility bill.

      It is reasonable to impose some requirements to vote, such as identifying oneself. Otherwise, we’ll eventually arrive at a time when telemarketers will call every phone number listed and take their votes over the phone.

      People who fight so hard against identifying people at the polls, but not against ID to drive a car, open a bank account, or buy cough syrup, are fighting for voter fraud. Can you explain any downside to not verifying the identity of voters? Kind of like a downside to not identifying someone who wants to withdraw money from your checking account or requiring an ID to drive a car.

    5. Molly Gee….wowee…vacant much ?. In absolutely no way is VOTER ID disenfranchising a soul. It culls out illegals and multiple fake voting. You get a new ID it’s the same DL number – you didn’t know that…are you that silly ?. Your nonsensical partisan bloviating is as obvious as a sewer plants smell on a warm august day.

  13. Listen to the taped grammatically fractured talk of the Fulton vote counters. The Democrat might be right this time. No standards in public schools equals no education in public schools.

    1. This democratic mantra about minorities not being able get IDs or in this case, read their own driver’s license is insulting as well as ludicrous, however, It does display how transparently stupid their argument is.

      1. On poor Caribbean island countries which are mostly black citizens have photo ID. I was shown one by a cab driver when I was surprised to hear of it.

        It is contemptible that Democrats keep saying blacks in this country can’t handle their own ID when those in other, poorer countries are perfectly capable of doing it.

        1. @young

          These poor Caribbean countries you mention also are run by “white supremacists”.

          antonio

          1. Yes, I noticed that. Clearly deeply tanned white supremacists on the political posters.

            I should add that the cab driver who showed me his picture-voter-ID card was very proud of it. The sanity in his country made me envious; I wished for a bit in our own.

  14. Elias is just reflecting Democrats beliefs about minorities. Liberals believe minorities are incapable of figuring out how to get driver’s licenses and they don’t fly on airplanes, don’t have bank accounts, don’t buy alcoholic drinks, don’t stay in hotels, and never see doctors. Liberals also believe without liberals’ help minorities can’t get jobs, support their families, or get into college. Liberals are racists and eugenicists.

  15. Show me your brain, Mister Lame!
    License number? Don’t know? Then don’t vote.

  16. Mr. Elias has always been dishonest.

    I never before took him for stupid.

    In one Tweet, he revealed what Dems really think of minorities.

  17. Did you celebrate this? Where is your outrage over Matt Gaetz, the insurrection and the GOP?

    1. And there he goes again.

      Anonymous always changes the subject when cornered.

      I suspect that most of us have lost whatever little respect that we might have had for him

      1. That is the nature of his anonymous persona. That is why he stays anonymous. He is a failed individual that relies on superficial things and talking points. The second there is a fork in his talking points he gets lost.

    2. Wait a minute, a liberal using “Whataboutism”? Let me explain how it works, you have to be talking about a similar subject. What does Matt Gatez or the Capitol riots have anything to do with voting in Georgia.
      In addition, liberals use “whataboutism” in an attempt to deflect and insult conservatives when they dare to questions liberal hypocrisy.

    3. Anonymous – Matt Gaetz is under investigation. The truth will come out whatever that is. Justice requires due process. If he is guilty, then he will be arrested.

      Republicans have about unanimously condemned the storming of the Capitol on January 6th, just like they have condemned the Democrat violence that is still going on today – looting, burning, autonomous zones, etc. The Democrat Party has openly encouraged violence and bailed out rioters – “go out, make a crowd, and let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere anymore.” “you are soldiers.” “this is reparations.” “Beware because this will continue, and it should continue.” “Riots are the language of the unheard.”

      You should also recall that dozens of Democrats were arrested when they stormed the Senate Offices and the Capitol during the Kavanaugh hearing.

      Tu quoque?

      1. “Republicans have about unanimously condemned the storming of the Capitol on January 6th”

        No, they haven’t. You even have Republicans like Sen. Ron Johnson saying “I knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break the law, and so I wasn’t concerned.”

        “dozens of Democrats were arrested when they stormed the Senate Offices and the Capitol during the Kavanaugh hearing.”

        I doubt that you have any way of identifying their party affiliation. You think only Democratic women object to men who’ve been accused of assault and perjury? It’s not as though there was any risk of Trump nominating a liberal if Kavanaugh wasn’t confirmed.

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