On the eve of the midterm elections with Pennsylvania’s Senate race viewed as a dead heat, a debate has continued to rage over whether Democratic candidate John Fetterman is fit after suffering a serious stroke that impaired his communication and processing skills. However, as we previously discussed, many on the left have swatted back questions concerning Fetterman’s fitness as “ableism.” Now, the Washington Post has run a long column from University of Delaware Professor Jaipreet Virdi declaring that it is not just embracing ableism but eugenics to question Fetterman’s fitness.
Professor Virdi is an associate professor at the University of Delaware who describes herself as “Deaf & forever a radical.” She is a prominent and influential voice against discrimination against the deaf.
There were parts of her column that I thought raised valuable and probative insights, including Virdi’s observation that “disabled people are the ‘original life hackers,’ people who adapt to their circumstances and find their way through the disabled world, by creating new objects and paths that allow them full participation.” She is also right that we need to reevaluate how our expectations might be barriers to those with disabilities. However, she engages in her own sweeping generalizations of those who raise these concerns and tells them that they must “jettison[] eugenics-influenced ideas about disability.”
Virdi frames her analysis by insisting that Fetterman is just given to “verbal stumbles and pauses.” The problem is that we do not know if there is more serious cognitive damage. Fetterman has refused to release his medical records despite requests from the media, including newspapers that support him.
Moreover, Fetterman had this stroke before the primary vote but he and his staff kept the serious impact of the stroke a secret. After he received the nomination, they then largely prevented the media or voters from questioning him and sharply limited his public appearances. They would only agree to one debate and insisted that it occur relatively late in the election after hundreds of thousands voted.
In other words, we still do not know the extent to which Fetterman can process information and communicate. His sole debate was widely viewed as alarming.
However, it is the escalation of the rhetoric that is most notable about the Washington Post column. Professor Virdi explains that the doubts raised over Fetterman are reflective of our history with eugenics and view that certain groups are “socially deficient.”
“As far as eugenicists were concerned, science said that “moral” flaws were hereditary and threatened the health of the nation. This meant that the solution to social problems such as crime, promiscuity and poverty aimed at the institutionalization and sterilization of the “morally degenerate”. As [Sir Francis ] Galton envisioned, human improvement was only possible through consistent, scientific intervention brought about by eugenics: ‘What nature does blindly, slowly, and recklessly, man can do proactively, swiftly, and kindly.’”
Professor Virdi ties such doubts over the fitness of disabled people to past efforts of sterilization and the view that “controlling human reproduction through better breeding was a must.” She warns that “at its core, eugenics simply applied a scientific gloss to existing racial, class, and gender prejudices. Immigrants, people with disabilities, and racial and ethnic minorities were among those identified as socially ‘disabled.'”
As I wrote in the earlier column, there is no reason why a senator cannot be fully effective despite a disability, including the use of such devices as readers. The problem in Pennsylvania is that the Fetterman campaign has actively prevented efforts to determine if there are more serious cognitive difficulties for Fetterman in processing information.
In the end, the Fetterman strategy worked in sheltering the candidate from further questioning or debates. The best way to dispel such questions would have been greater interaction with the candidate to show that this was limited, as Professor Virdi suggests, to mere “verbal stumbles and pauses.” As it stands, voters will largely vote without such information and any doubts are the result of the concerted effort to leave these questions unanswered.
N.B.: The original version of this blog posting noted the controversy over Fetterman allegedly saying that he “celebrated the death of Roe v. Wade.” It appears that Fetterman stumbled over “Oz” and it came out sounding like “I.” However, it was removed as not a good example of the health concerns given the minor confusion.
Democrats are so far into their victim mentality that they don’t even see the mental an physical deficiencies of people like Biden and Fetterman. In fact, when the deep State is really pulling all the strings, who cares which puppet shows their face to the media, especially when the media is only too happy to play along with the Democratic script. And that’s the real reason these demagogues are pushing censorship — so no one can question their treachery.
If there is any conceivable silver lining to the pandemic, it is that it allowed for the exposure of these upside down bizzarro academics by making them feel free to comfortably express their honest views. Now the world knows they exist and that they have taken over the institutions. This is better than having them continue to pick away at the core of western society in secret.
It’s been reported that Republican Thad Cochrane was suffering from severe dementia toward the end of his life. Mitch McConnell had aides lead him around to ensure he did not get lost, made sure he showed up to vote; and he voted how McConnell wanted him to vote.
Likewise, Schumer will make sure Fetterman is led around the Capitol complex like a pet. He’ll have aides get him to the Senate floor to vote when he’s supposed to vote, and Fetterman will cast his vote in a way to please the activists, donors, and media.
The far left influencers who are making excuse for Fetterman all know this. They know Fetterman will vote 100% of the time with the radical activists and media. But they engage in this emotional blackmail effort to try to shame voters as bad people for questioning the wisdom of having someone with obvious brain damage represent them in the Senate.
Would this erstwhile faculty lounge occupier ever want fetterman, should he have been a brain surgeon, to now perform surgery on his child’s brain? Just how far is he willing to push this ablest nonsense. No, a one-legged man is NEVER going to win the 50 yard dash against two legged opponents so let’s put this ablest nonsense to bed and admit that there are limits to what each one of us are capasble and just deal with it.
No doubt this hearing impaired professor is highly competent in many ways, but she could hardly be expected to serve as an audio engineer. Overly broad statements and careless generalizations are not helpful.
“I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade.”
Fetterman actually says “Oz celebrates the demise…” Turley should correct this post.
(please watch the unedited videos.)
can you post the video?
The extent to which Democrats lie…..chilling
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-says-he-supports-codifying-roe-v-wade-but-also-celebrates-its-demise/ar-AA13MLqb
(some more damaging original clips of the video are being removed, and a new version, including the above, are replacing them–and now appear to bring into question what he actually said. To me, this is moot. (1) Notice that NO ONE in the crowd behind Fetterman cheers if he indeed said “Oz celebrates the demise.” Apparently they also thought he said what media originally posted.
(2) Even if the replaced video is correct–If his own followers in the video (and the media) did not understand him, where does that leave us?….)
(p.s. notice that my posting quotes the left-wing flagship MSN/MSNBC. Now, as of 10:48, a slew of retractions/removals and some apologies across the Web from various sites.)
I’m opposed to Fetterman, but he says “Oz.” Don’t fall into the left’s habit of lying about everything and anything- that’s disgusting.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-fetterman-fumbles-abortion-comments-at-rally-i-run-on-roe-v-wade-i-celebrate-the-demise-of-roe-v-wade/
John Fetterman Draws Contrast With Oz Over Abortion: I Run On Roe, Oz Celebrates Its Demise
By Ken Meyer
“CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post misrepresented John Fetterman’s comment on abortion by mistaking the word “Oz” for “I” — which changed the context of the remark. The post has been updated and reframed below. We regret the error.”
Ivan: You read me wrong, I am the only one so far–and almost an hour ( @10:44) before your post, –to show equivocal inferences of Fetterman’s words and the mootness of the issue. Thanks anyway.
‘I run on Roe v. Wade. I celebrate the demise of Roe v. Wade,’
-J Fetterman 5NOV2022
Upstate Farmer: Bingo! congrats! Now try for Powerball!
Thank you Lin!
Will do!
I bet she’s a big Margaret Sanger fan.
To the modern Democrat, fetterman is nothing but a goon to fill one of Chuck Schumers senate seats. He is the perfect Democrat. Nonthinking and compliant. To be honest that is most of the current Democrat senators today.
This professor and Svelaz are totally out of their silos. This has nothing to do with ableism or eugenics or any of the past mistakes in dealing with the disabled. This has all to do with neuroanatomy, neurochemistry, cardiology, atrial fibrillation and cerebrovascular incidents, and neuropsychiatry. They are not accidents. Psychiatry is important because they are frequently psychiatric side effects of strokes, some worse than others. Also his age is a factor since strokes in younger people (if they survive) are more likely to be completely recovered from than older people. There is also poor judgement since he ignored medical advice and failed to follow thru on treatment that could have prevented all of this and did so for several years. He was not given advice about an ingrown toenail but about a condition with stroke as it’s main complication. Of course people with severe disabilities can function fully and productively. Stephen Hawking is a prime example but despite all his disabilities and needs for help with mobility and respiration, he still had an intact and brilliant brain. ALS is a motor neuron disease which usually leaves the brain intact
Compare Fetterman to a computer. The computer may have lost a disc drive , or iot’s screen is acting up, or it’s keyboard is not working but the essential CPU is still working and that is the brains of the computer. They are all peripheral to the function of the computer and can be bypassed. In Fetterman’s case the CPU is badly damaged and he and his doctors know this but nobody will not tell us how much.
Also, as stated above, he and his friends kept it all a secret before he even went into the primary. Why should anyone believe him now?
It wasn’t a secret. He had a stroke during his run for office. You still keep missing the point. He may have cognitive impairment maybe it will improve. That still shouldn’t be an impediment of he still chooses to continue. Voters will decide tomorrow whether they are willing to give him a chance or not. The point Virdi was making is going over the heads of those who can’t grasp it. She’s pointing out that people too often run with the first assumption they have based on preconceptions that many already have because of stereotypes based on ignorance.
I wish we could use eugenics to genetically weed out disabled political thinking. I wish we could use eugenics to genetically weed out disabled processing of, and inability to discard, defective political propaganda.
Fetterman’s refusal to release his medical records suggests strongly that he is hiding something serious.
If, despite his seeming cognitive impairment, he is nonetheless elected (after many days if not weeks of vote counting and litigation), either he will be controlled by some staff members and his wife and vote with the progressives on all matters or, if they decide the progressive cause is better served by someone capable of doing more than that, he will be replaced by some other progressive appointed by Shapiro.
So the issue facing Pennsylvania voters is not whether he is impaired, but whether they want to be represented by a progressive who will continue and intensify the destructive policies the Democrats have been implementing. To his credit, this is the argument Oz has been making.
Similarly in Georgia, regardless of what you think of Walker’s intellectual capabilities (and I suspect they are underrated), the choice is whether to continue down the progressive path or to try and reverse course.
In a political environment where ideological differences are so significant, any focus on personal capabilities is in most cases nothing but a distraction.
Daniel: Your last conclusory sentence is very strong. Thank you.
Very well stated. Thank you
Daniel, you bring up an interesting point. Should Herschel Walker release his medical records? He has been subjected to multiple blows to the head and has a history of concussions. Obviously he’s quite stupid, BUT he still has a right to run and let the voters decide like fetterman. If Herschel Walker is seemingly very stupid and can still run. Fetterman should get the same opportunity regardless of his disability.
“Should Herschel Walker release his medical records?”
We have four politicians where such claims have been discussed repeatedly.
Fetterman and Biden
Trump and Herchel Walker
The Democrats hide, and neither is capable of spontaneous discussion
The Republicans are vigorous and available for the world to see.
If one cannot see a difference one has a significant mental disability.
Good point, here’s a variation on your theme:
“With the aid of mainstream media, The Democrats hide their flaws, and neither is capable of spontaneous discussion”
“With the aid of mainstream media, The Republicans are vigorous and any flaws are available for the world to see.”
“ With the aid of mainstream media, The Democrats hide their flaws, and neither is capable of spontaneous discussion”
Or,
With the aid of conservative media the republicans hide their flaws, and neither are capable of spontaneous discussion.
Works both ways.
Herschel Walker is a good example. The man has severe flaws including outright lying and supports abortion contrary to republican values. But conservative media is helping hide those flaws because they don’t care about Hershel he’s stupid enough to manipulate once he’s elected and that’s why republicans want him to win he’s only being supported because he can give republicans control.
Trump never released his medical records and he has refused to do so. So he’s hiding something too? Hershel Walker should release his too due to his multiple concussions playing football. If they don’t have to, neither does Fetterman.
“ The Republicans are vigorous and available for the world to see.”
You can be mentally ill and vigorous. You can be stupid and vigorous. Being vigorous doesn’t seem to be as relevant as you think.
“You can be mentally ill and vigorous. You can be stupid and vigorous.”
Trump can speak in front of an audience for extended periods of time without falling over or wandering, He can respond to questions without the aid of teleprompters or computer assistance.
The only question is how impaired you are despite you hundreds of posts that make no sense.
You are proving my point. This is a distraction. The critical question in the election is whether a candidate supports or opposes the progressive agenda Biden and the Democrats are pursuing. Fetterman supports it, Oz opposes it; Warnock supports it, Walker opposes it. Vote accordingly.
Whatever you say about Republicans I don’t think it is fair to say they are against those with cognitive impairments. The party that has put forward MTG, Herschel and whose intellectual force is Mike Lindell clearly loves the mentally impaired.
Whatever you say about Fetterman, he lives in Pennsylvania and Oz does not. If for some reason Fetterman cannot serve out his term, the Governor can appoint another Pennsylvanian to serve out his term.
Pennsylvania is a big state – why shouldn’t they have two senators from there in the Senate?
You can choose to vote for whoever you wish for whatever reasons you wish.
And I and every other PA voter can choose for different reasons.
Regardless of who we elect – they are likely to end up living primarily in DC.
I do not want the person selected by the Governor.
I want a Senator elected by the people – after a campaign that challenged them on the issues, on their integrity, on their ability.
Democrat elites selected Biden….Because he was the VERY best of a very large field of Democrat Candidates, and Harris was the 2cnd best. I cant understand how Democrat voters keep validating they like to be lied to. Democrats hate competence.
Well said. This writer wonders whether the “fix it with science” hubris of eugenics informs the debate about “fix it with science” for gender dysphoria.
A liberal Democrat calling Republicans eugenics supporters is quite a take coming from the party of Planned Parenthood and the mother of eugenics.
Also, it isn’t ableism to not want a blind pilot (who is 100% mentally capable and able to live an otherwise normal life) or a mentally handicapped president, who, as we have seen, has wrecked the world in under 2 years.
That’s no way to talk about Trump. He may be mentally damaged, but he can still chew and walk at the same time…barely.
ROFL who is this I am old enough to remember when getting to professor was an achievement, now this title is handed out with Breakfast Cereals to people who do not understand the meaning long words
For me, I don’t particularly care what’s going on inside his head. If he can’t process what he’s hearing, and cannot effectively communicate what he’s thinking then for all intents and purposes it’s like a mild form of Locked In Syndrome which makes him useless as a representative for others.
I can’t believe this homunculus is running even with a renowned cardiac surgeon. Heaven help us.
PA may be a mess. The PA DOS has already mailed out 250K illegal Ballots – Oops. they claim they will catch them when they are returned.
Regardless, they defied a court order in doing so.
PA is STILL fighting over whether mailin ballots have to be dated (or signed).
That despite multiple lower court opinions, two PA Superior court decisions, Two PA sumpreme court decisions – from the WORST State supreme court in the country, and TWO US Supreme court decisions all saying – when the election law says the mailin ballot must be dated – it MUST be dated.
Beleive it or not DESPITE an unrelenting string of losses in all courts – this is STILL somehow unresolved.
PA DOS has directed that undated or improperly dated ballots be segregated – and then possibly counted if the election is close.
One of the big deals with Mailin ballots – which all but the blind saw in 2020, is no matter how obliviously screwed up the required voter identifying information is once the ballot is separated from the envelope it will be counted.
Even if the envelope information proves completely fraudulent – you have ONE short – when the envelop is initially reviewed.
Once you allow it to be opened – it is going to be counted.
We forget this regarding the AZ Audit. Cyber Ninja’s found that almost half of the Maricopa County ballots had some issue that violated election law. But once they were added to the legitimate ballots – there was no way to correct the problem.
When you vote in person – just by showing up – you prove you are a really living person. You have to know your name correctly and it must be on the voter rolls, you must sign and the signature must match. You must present ID and the photo and address must match.
If you can not do these – you do not get to vote. But mailin ballots – the least secure have none of this.
Worse what little they have in terms of information verifying you can vote, is frequently ignored.
And the laws saying this is not allowed – are ignored.
We have video now from Detroit. Because Republicans are sending election observers, the City democrats have hired massive amounts of security – and instructed that security that their job is to get in the face of election observers and prevent them from doing what the law allows them to do.
Yep. PA will likely be a meltdown. The Supreme Court better keep a day open on their calendar.
Ulimately I am expecting PA to be OK – but only because the margin of victory will be larger than the margin of potential fraud.
The same is true of the country.
Large scale fraud occurs in large cities. Democrats in Rural and suburban areas or small cities are not going to successfully engage in Fraud.
Fraud is not going to have a consequential effect on House races.
There is more opportunity for Fraud in Senate and governor races, But even large scale fraud is limited. It is unlikely that election fraud in 2020 reached 1M votes – that is 0.75% of the vote. Frankly it probably was less than 1/2 million votes – 0r about 0.3% of the vote.
Fraud – even large scale fraud is only viable in very close elections. And the type engaged in 2020 only in large cities.
Republicans dismissed Trumps cognitive issues for years, and say that Walkers issues are not a problem because it was from football. But when a Democrat has cognitive questions it is now disqualifying? Me thinks Republicans don’t really care either way and are just partisan hacks.
What, prithee, are Trump’s cognitive issues?
Sammy wrote, “Republicans dismissed Trumps cognitive issues for years”
I’m not a Trump supporter and I know that writing nonsensical lies like that just makes the author look like a blithering fool.
“(N)onsensical lies” and “blithering fool”…well those are things you are eminently qualified at. Show us your Manifesto.
Now we have Sammy trying to tell us that Biden is really okay mentally???? This is like a defense attorney saying that the station wagon full of nuns really didn’t witness his client commit the crime. Apologies to Archie Bunker. (A little humor for those of us over 65)
Specifics Sammy. Specifics sort out trolls like you. Specifics (Trumps not running for office)
Trump is not constantly walking all over the stage, reading the notes in the teleprompter and talking to dead people.
Further if you are familiar with cognitive issues – real ones decline. Alzheimer’s proceeds slowly, Vascular dementia more rapidly.
But they all get worse. Trump claimed to have “aced” the MOCA – you do not actually “ace” it, you either pass it, or you have declining cognative ability. Trump passed – he does not have any form of dementia at the time he took it. There has been no evidence of decline over time.
Biden has not taken it. It is pretty obvious that if he does the results will be bad.
It is also obvious that Biden is in slow decline.
Fetterman has not taken it to my knowledge. But several of the issues he is having are tested by MOCA and he will not do well.
This is reality.
You can like Trump.
You can hate him.
But he shows no evidence of cognative issues.
You can like or hate Fetterman or Biden.
Both are showing symptoms of cognative decline.
It is highly unlikely that if Fetterman has not improved by now, that he will ever regain what he is currently missing.
It is also likely that he will continue to decline.
1/3 of those who have a stroke are dead within 3 years.
As to Walker – I have no baseline to compare too.
But his recent performance appears to reflect a poor souther background, NOT cognative issues.
In the debate he showed the ability to think creatively on his feet – even if the language he used was a reflection of poor black southerner.
It is possible given his football career that he expereinced some brain damage. But that is far more common for lineman than Running backs.
I would further note that people do not play QB, RB, TE, or WR positions – even in High School, without being in the top 1/4 of there class.
Whether you like it or not the featured “jock” positions in school require intelligence.
Walker was successful in HS, College and the Pros for many many years as a Running Back.
You need an above average IQ to do that.
If you are deceived by Walkers poor black southern drawl – that is your problem.
And probably makes you a racist.
At this point in time, anyone that votes for Fetterman would vote for a blathering parrot as long as it has a (D) for Democrat after it.
Calm down sweetie…it’s a blog, only the echo chamber is going to see it. Go play with some kittens. Thomas Paine you are not. Biggest Boot e.v.e.r.
Safeside, what is with the “Sweetie”? Are you sexist or just a demeaning jerk?
why does it have to be binary? It might be a term of endearment, nom de guerre, pet name, safe word, Subic Bay codeword, a.k.a., cosplay identity, etc.; dealer’s choice. Which is it, Stevie?
hullbobby,
It appears that Safeside824 is a cyberstalking internet troll and I’m his obsession these days. It seems like I’m occupying the penthouse of conscious thought in his brain rent free and he’s becoming increasingly annoyed that I’m not playing his game.
It’s adorable you think that. If that rambling screed about stalking you posted down thread is you “not playing the game”, I think I’m ahead on points. Not a lot of self-awareness there. Take it up with the moderator if you are butt-hurt that your disinformation is being countered. If he/she/they tell me to cease and desist, I will. I’ve been visiting this blog since seeing the Professor on Countdown (roughly, not sure which came first), watching you flail about is merely a distraction. While we are at it, tell us what the criminal elements of cyberstalking are.
Turley missed Verdi’s point. The majority of the people will not see Fetterman as qualifying because they will not see past his disability because of preconceptions people have about the disabled. They are already seen as “weak” or incompetent immediately. Releasing his medical records will only exacerbate those preconceptions. Trump wouldn’t release his medical records either and he’s not required to even if it was in the “public’s best interest”.
Only Fetterman decides whether he should continue or not or let voters choose. If he wins then he has an opportunity to prove his disability is not an impediment to to his job. If he cannot then he will always have the option of resigning.
This is Virdi’s general view and it’s why she chose to use the examples of eugenics being used to justify a level of ignorance that was very damaging to individuals who were disabled. For example people believed as far back as the 1940’s that deaf people were all dumb or stupid. They were always dismissed as such and often were discriminated because of that ignorant belief.
Fetterman should keep going. Let his job performance be the ultimate means of judging whether he can do it or not if he wins. People always doubt those with disabilities before they can prove themselves.
Sure Svelaz, and then when he resigns in a month his wife can be appointed forever. Typical cheating liberal. You see pal, the voters get to decide if he is mentally capable, that is what an election id for. You cheats told us Biden was fine and that he was just hiding in his basement due to Covid, but now we know (most of us conservatives that pay attention already knew) that Biden has dementia and that he is a danger to us and the entire world. See Ukraine, North Korea, Taiwan, China in Brazil and Iran.
hullbobby writes, “Sure Svelaz, and then when he resigns in a month his wife can be appointed forever.”
That’s my suspicion, too. Fetterman is not well enough to serve, even by Biden’s pitiful standard.
What makes anyone think his wife would be appointed? That’s a big assumption.
That’s not the point, Svelaz. The point is that it won’t be Mr. Fetterman, whoever replaces him.
Hullbobby,
“ Sure Svelaz, and then when he resigns in a month his wife can be appointed forever. Typical cheating liberal.”
It would not be cheating if he was elected. If he found it to be much more difficult than he TGIF it he has every right to resign. The governor would appoint a temporary replacement and a special election would follow for a permanent candidate. If his wife chooses to run that’s her right. How is that cheating?
Voters will get to decide. So let Fetterman keep running instead of resigning before the election which is what republicans want.
Trump is equally stupid but it seems republicans have no problem with stupid. He slurs his speech on occasion and has this inability to drink with one hand. They all have their faults and they all have the right to run for office. Right? Even the stupid.
Oh dear, Svelaz, there you go with the truth. Trump DID release his medical records, and he did it on television with Dr. Oz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLa60xP_138
“Fetterman should keep going. Let his job performance be the ultimate means of judging whether he can do it or not if he wins.”
The same can be said for the brain surgeon fiddling around in your brain.
He should keep going. Let his job performance be the ultimate means of judging whether he can do it. Of course, the brain surgeon fiddling in your brain is whacked out and has been so for years. Look at your result and then consider Fetterman’s
PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE
I’m posting this as a reply to my comment so it remains at the top of the comment thread.
Here’s a few definitions for the general public in Turley’s comment threads to better understand obsessive cyber stalking internet trolls launching ad hominems and why ignoring them is the best response.
Obsessed: verb preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent.
Cyberstalking: noun the repeated use of electronic communications to harass someone.
Cyberbullying: noun the use of electronic communication to bully a person, typically by sending messages of an intimidating or threatening nature.
Trolling: verb Posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.
Ad Hominem: adjective an argument or reaction directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
Antisocial Personality Disorder: sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental disorder in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
Obsessive cyberstalking by internet trolls can lead to stalking in the real world.
Lastly, Turley’s Civility Rule clearly states “We do not tolerate personal attacks or bullying.” Cyberstalking internet trolls launching constant ad hominems at their stalking targets are clearly being intentionally uncivil and are prime targets for banning even on a blog that actively promotes free speech.
Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
It’s your choice whether you engage a cyber stalking internet troll, choose wisely.
That would apply to every poster here. If Turley did enforce his civility rules there would be no one on the blog.
Svelaz wrote, “That would apply to every poster here. If Turley did enforce his civility rules there would be no one on the blog.”
There is plenty of tolerance here because Turley strongly supports free speech but what you wrote is false.