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Trump’s Legal “Super Tuesday”: The Trump Arrest Will Start One of the Most Bizarre Presidential Elections in History

Below is my column on how the upcoming election could play out with three different criminal cases in New York, Georgia, and Washington, D.C. This morning we are reading new leaks from the Justice Department’s grand jury investigation. It is another disheartening example of intentional leaks in violation of federal law and DOJ policies. The federal judge in the case seems entirely unconcerned about the violations that are clearly meant to undermine former president Donald Trump and pressure witnesses.

Here is the column:

The 2024 presidential campaign technically began months ago with the first announced candidates. Yet April 4 will be “Super Tuesday” for America’s first carceral presidential campaign, with the arrest and arraignment of Donald Trump. With the exception of the socialist (and incarcerated) Eugene Debs in 1920, we have not faced the prospect of a president who could be elected with both a term of office and a term of imprisonment.

The New York indictment of Trump has been widely criticized as politically motivated and legally flawed. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg boasted during his 2021 campaign about being best suited to go after Trump, and he is making good on his boast with a highly dubious bootstrapped legal theory.

The New York indictment will face considerable challenges. Those challenges will likely take some time to resolve, and if this case follows the customary schedule of criminal matters, it still may be pending when Americans go to the polls to select the next president in 2024.

In addition, a Georgia grand jury reportedly has finished its work on other charges against Trump. Weeks ago, Emily Kohrs, the forewoman of that special grand jury, gave a series of bizarre giggling interviews about nailing Trump. It is a mystery, given Kohrs’ apparent confirmation of pending charges, why Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has held back on an indictment.

Although stronger than the Manhattan case, the Georgia case has its own problems but could make it to trial because those problems are largely fact questions generally left to jurors. But it too would likely be pending by Election Day 2024.

The most serious threat among the potential cases is being developed by Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith. His investigation of Trump’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot is unlikely to result in charges and, if it does, is unlikely to survive challenges on First Amendment grounds. His investigation of the Mar-a-Lago classified-documents controversy presents a far more established — and, frankly, easier — route for prosecution. From its earliest filings, the Justice Department maintained there is evidence of obstruction and false statements — claims that it could use to distinguish any prosecution from the unlawful possession of classified material by President Joe Biden or former Vice President Mike Pence.

Smith is under a tight schedule if he wants to charge Trump, though. Since the Justice Department (incorrectly in my view) maintains that a sitting president cannot be indicted, Smith would have to charge and, ideally, try Trump before Election Day. Indeed, the Justice Department strives to avoid any major legal steps that might impact voting near to an election — a period that could stretch back to the late summer of 2024.

What this means is that Trump could face as many as three sets of criminal charges in three different jurisdictions as he campaigns for the presidency. He would likely seek accommodations from courts to delay any trial during the campaign.

Whether or not Trump can delay a trial, much of 2024 will be focused on carceral rather than political issues. Trump has long claimed that Democrats are weaponizing the criminal justice system against him and other Republicans. Bragg has given him the case positive for proving that allegation, especially since Bragg ran for office on his ability to find a criminal charge against Trump.

The question is what happens if any of these efforts succeed.

I previously raised the prospect of an actual indictment in converting the election into a debate for presidential self-pardons. Article II of the Constitution states that a president may “grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.” There is no language specifying who may or may not be the subject of a pardon, and presidents have abused the pardon power to protect political allies and even family members.

Numerous legal analysts have argued those constitutional provisions “make no sense if the president could pardon himself.” Yet it seems highly doubtful that courts would agree. Despite the massive gravitational pull of Trump on the legal analysis of many pundits, there is nothing in the Constitution to exclude presidents alone from pardon eligibility. The Supreme Court stated in Schick v. Reed that “the pardoning power is an enumerated power of the Constitution and … its limitations, if any, must be found in the Constitution itself.”

While a newly elected Trump could only pardon himself for the federal crimes, it is the federal case that likely represents the greatest threat to him. Moreover, the two state cases would add to Trump’s narrative of facing ‘political prosecutions’ from a ‘weaponized’ legal system on every level. Trump often campaigns on just such a primal level. He knows that a man chased by a dog can spark public outcry — but a man chased by a pack of dogs can spark public outrage.

It is not simply the election that could take a carceral turn, however.

What would happen if Trump were elected but convicted in either state case? Such a trial would likely occur after the election. Even if courts extended a trial until after the 2024 election, it would be difficult to delay it for four years.

The last time a president faced the threat of a criminal trial was in 1872, when Ulysses S. Grant was arrested for speeding in his horse-drawn carriage in Washington.

I have long maintained that a sitting president can be indicted and tried. Almost 25 years ago, I wrote an academic work, “‘From Pillar to Post’: The Prosecution of Sitting Presidents,” that challenged immunity theories protecting presidents. I do not believe the indictment of a president or former president is a national tragedy. To the contrary, it is the ultimate affirmation that no one is above the law.

However, that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t get weird if Trump loses in court but wins in the election.

If Trump were convicted in a state proceeding, it would not bar him from running — or serving — as president. A state judge could grant probation or an alternative sentence to avoid imprisonment. Moreover, appeals on the issue of incarceration could take years to address a state order conflicting with the performance of a federal function. Once that time was exhausted, a court could order any incarceration to be delayed until after the end of the presidential term, since Trump could not be elected a third time.

We may have to face one of these scenarios. The question is whether voters may not only accept this prospect but some might even invite it. Regardless of how it works out, this election is about to take a carceral turn.

Elections often raise the politics of crime — but in this election, it may be hard to separate the politics from the crime.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at The George Washington University. Follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.

397 thoughts on “Trump’s Legal “Super Tuesday”: The Trump Arrest Will Start One of the Most Bizarre Presidential Elections in History”

  1. The Professor skips over some other options with good cause as no one in their firm grasp of their faculties would want to go there

    What happens when the People…remember them….hundreds of millions of them…..what if we finally as a People accept our Criminal Justice System and Constitution no longer grants us the protection and rights they promise us?

    Compound that with the realization by those who wake up and smell the coffee decide collectively that Polls, Elections, and Courts no longer determine who runs this Country?

    Then what……perhaps the Professor could gaze into his Crystal Ball and think of some scenarios that the People might undertake to turn this around and once more be a Nation of Laws, Justice, and Constitutional Rights that it once was but no longer seems to be.

  2. Trump didn’t get a mug shot. Trump is already fundraising off a fake mugshot.

    2. Trump is already fundraising off a fake mugshot
      The crime of fund raising, elevates this class E misdemeanor to the Death Penalty.

  3. Impressive. It’s been what, nearly 8 years since Trump announced his candidacy for President? The Deep State and the Democratic party have acted like meth addicts trying to kill a spider in their lab with a lighter and a can of spray paint. They’ve blow up the lab and the spider is still going. They’ve finally found a country they could destroy…the United States. The chaos that has been unleashed in this country and quite frankly around the world, has all the classic earmarks of a CIA operation.

    Prove me wrong.

    1. What words mean: Deep State. Deep State are the people who support the Rule of Law.

  4. It’s about Michael Cohen getting REVENGE.
    And a D.A. that’s padding his resume.

    Now that Cohen has got the revenge, is it enough.
    I don’t think Trump or Daniels wanted it to go this far, this all Michael Cohen.
    The rest (The DNC) are just using it as a vehicle to put Trump out.

  6. No gag order…for now. Trump has been warned about making threats and inciting violence directly from the judge.

    “He pleaded not guilty, said not guilty. And at some point, the prosecution brought up all of the social media posts that he has put out recently, including the one where he’s holding a bat next to D.A. [Alvin] Bragg.

    And the prosecution said this is, you know, could be looked at as inciting violence. And they wanted Judge Merchan to, it seemed like they wanted him to give a gag order.

    Judge Merchan said that, ‘no, he wouldn’t give a gag order.’ But he said to Mr. Trump and to his attorneys, ‘I don’t want to see this anymore.’ I don’t want to see, the next time that I see something like this, I might have a different idea about what I should do.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-warns-trump-to-his-face-to-stop-inciting-violence-or-he-could-face-gag-order/ar-AA19tArz?cvid=4079f603bfd04ee693cd2cd85722b07c&ei=8

    Trump is going to have to be very careful what he says at his press conference in Florida tonight. I bet trump will last a day before he starts issuing threats at the judge or prosecutors. Maybe two.

    1. And yet tonight, Trump gave a public speech complaining about Bragg, about Bragg’s wife, about the judge, about the judge’s wife and daughter, …, Trump can’t control himself.

      2. Trump controlled himself well. Bragg should be disbarred. The Grand Jury leaked and Bragg provided an empty indictment. The Judge and family including the daughter are well established and active in leftist political circles so much so one cannot expect a fair trial.

        The Judge warned Trump, but no warnings to Bragg or his office. No questions about Grand Jury leaking. It looks like a Soviet style prosecution.

        The bright note. The country is becoming more alert and non-political people are starting to wonder what is going on. Take note, though NYC has 8 million people, millions of which are very close, there wasn’t much a turn out.

        1. Correct. And those New Yorkers live everyday on the unsafe, crime-ridden, violent streets of New York City that Fat Alvin, the Marxist Communist Thug DA has deliberately made unsafe for them by letting chaos reign.

          The People are less safe now, but not nearly as stupid as the THUG DEMOCRAT PARTY of today thinks they are.
          FJB and all the rest of them.

          1. And anyone who supports FJB and these THUGS in the DEMOCRAT PARTY of today, does not understand the URGENCY of the situation.

  7. Just saw Alvin Bragg’s press briefing.

    He stated that the Manhattan D.A. Office is rigorously pursuing White Collar Crimes.

    Ok, but what about the White Collar Crimes he is looking the other way at.

    Jamie Diamond and J.P. Morgan Chase Bank

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jpmorgan-execs-joked-about-jeffrey-epsteins-pedophilia-usvi

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2023/03/jamie-dimon-is-fighting-a-deposition-in-a-devastating-lawsuit-charging-jpmorgan-with-being-the-cash-conduit-for-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-crimes/

    Obviously Bankers & Wall Street Execs’ White Collar Crimes are outside of his vision.

    Bragg’s a Smooth Operator

  8. From Turley at Fox News,

    “The president is comfortable in chaos. It may be his element. He tends to go on attack,” Turley said during his appearance on Fox News. “But at this moment, the question is whether he will rise above it and seem more presidential to bring reason to the rage and to say instead, ‘This is a threat to the presidency. It’s not just about me.'”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-guest-asks-whether-trump-will-rise-above-indictment-firestorm-he-is-comfortable-in-chaos-video/ar-AA19t4Bc?cvid=78ae9e6d0b7c492f96b15d7eb97d9fdc&ei=29

    That’s some very wishful thinking.

    1. Kevin McCarthy
      @SpeakerMcCarthy

      Alvin Bragg is attempting to interfere in our democratic process by invoking federal law to bring politicized charges against President Trump, admittedly using federal funds, while at the same time arguing that the peoples’ representatives in Congress lack jurisdiction to investigate this farce.

      Not so. Bragg’s weaponization of the federal justice process will be held accountable by Congress.

      5:00 PM · Apr 4, 2023

    2. Svelaz: Glad to see that when the good professor says something you like, you are eager to repeat it. When he doesn’t, you repeatedly call him hypocritical and disingenuous–in multiple posts, as hullbobby would note, (and as though your opinion were superior to Turley’s).
      I know that you wish that several commenters here were unable to see through your comments, and your copycatting of words/clever thoughts/styles, and your switching to anonymous, and your being a proud member of the minority Blog-3, who “like” each others’ comments to give credence to them,—- but….
      “That’s some very wishful thinking,” as you say.
      I look forward to the day when your maturity might overrule your immaturity and we all may exchange in open debate/discussion.
      Very sincerely, but not intended to be mean, lin.

      1. Lin, I don’t post anonymously. The anonymous posters are someone else. Even S. Meyer posts anonymously incessantly.

        I don’t claim that my opinions are superior than Turley’s. I just point out that Turley is not as clever as he portrays himself to be in his columns. He is often disingenuous and hypocritical and calling him out on it is fair game. The problem is he is those things so often that the criticism is equally multiplied. It’s as simple as that.

        1. It would be much more mature to simply state, “I respectfully disagree with the professor on this point, and here is why: 1.), 2.). 3.) ”
          Otherwise, you are dismissed as Gigi in pants.

  9. A gag order is certain.

    “Hours before Donald Trump walked into court for his arraignment, his son Donald Trump Jr. posted photos of the presiding judge’s daughter. It comes after Trump has made attacks on the judge, the prosecutor, and the prosecutor’s wife.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/prosecutors-address-trump-s-social-media-threats-after-don-jr-posted-a-photo-of-the-judge-s-daughter/ar-AA19tmbc?cvid=5bd95300621a466b80b48b0064e2033d&ei=18

    Trump supporters are starting to issue threats. So much for “peaceful” protests.

    1. A gag order is unconstitutional.
      So yes, it is probably certain with these 🤡🤡🤡

      1. A gag order is not unconstitutional. Judges issue them all the time. If trump continues to threaten and denigrate the judge or prosecutors and their families a judge can certainly issue a gag order.

        1. Alvin Bragg has shut down the entire city, called up 38,000 NYPD police officers, closed down the FDR Drive and is spending an estimated $200 million of city funds, all for a $130,000 NDA. I never thought I would see this level of corruption in the United States.
          @erictrump

          #Biden’s Banana Republic

        2. So bringing attention to the political activities of a judges relatives is a problem now?
          It wasn’t a problem when it had to do with Ginni Thomas’ work.
          But now it is irrelevant.
          Gotcha.

        3. “A gag order is not unconstitutional” and your stupidity make me gag.

          1. You are so right. The 1st Amendment is unconstitutional. Judges hold dominion as dictators over the freedom of religion, speech, thought, press, assembly and they hold the power to amend the Constitution on a whim.

            And you are an antithetical, anti-Constitution, anti-American, communist ——- idiot.

            The Constitution and Bill of Rights provide maximal freedom to individuals while they severely limit and restrict government.

        4. Question for Svelaz: Is it still okay for leftist protestors to march, parade, harass, intimidate, and implicitly threaten conservative Supreme Court justices and their families in front of their family homes? Is it okay for Democrats to call attention to Ginni Thomas’s work and harass her publicly?
          In other words: sit down and shut up.

    2. The Judges daughter is a prominent leftist with connections all over. This is a vocal leftist family where the Judge hates Trump. They show no signs of being able to judge in a fair manner. The venue needs to be moved.

      1. Did the court move John “Dudley Do-Right” Durham’s slam-dunks out of the “Swamp?”

        Danchenko lied to the FBI.

        Danchenko has said a primary source for information in the Steel Dossier was Sergei Millian, a former Russian American Chamber of Commerce president, who Danchenko assumed made an anonymous call tipping him off on key information in July 2016.

        However, Durham says Millian never spoke to the Russian analyst, and that most of Danchenko’s information came from Charles Dolan, a Democratic operative and ally of Clinton.

  10. From the statement of facts.

    “After the election, the Defendant reimbursed Lawyer A for the illegal payment through a series of monthly checks, first from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust (the “Defendant’s Trust”)—a Trust created under the laws of New York which held the Trump Organization entity assets after the Defendant was elected President—and then from the Defendant’s bank account. Each check was processed by the Trump Organization, and each check was disguised as a payment for legal services rendered in a given month of 2017 pursuant to a retainer agreement. The payment records, kept and maintained by the Trump Organization, were false New York business records. In truth, there was no retainer agreement, and Lawyer A was not being paid for legal services rendered in 2017. The Defendant caused his entities’ business records to be falsified to disguise his and others’ criminal conduct.”

    https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf

    1. Absolute 🤡 Show.
      The hypocrisy 🤡🤡🤡
      Bragg is a 🤡

      ELECTION INTERFERENCE

    2. Defendant reimbursed Lawyer A for the illegal payment through a series of monthly checks,

      Compensation for signing a NDA is not illegal. This thing was never on rails to run off of.

  11. Rep. James Comer
    @RepJamesComer

    I now have access to the Biden family’s suspicious activity reports [SARs] from @USTreasury

    I have also subpoenaed Biden family bank records.

    And Biden family associates connected to the schemes are talking to @GOPoversight

    It doesn’t look good for @POTUS Biden.

    1. LOL!!! Comer is just grandstanding in the wake of Trump’s arraignment.

      It’s a dog and pony show. Nobody cares.

      1. Since you clearly do not understand the situation, we must assume either you are in a cult or you are a communist who worships Stalin.

      2. Biden IS THE SITTING PRESIDENT.
        Everybody should care.
        Why don’t you?
        Are you in a brainwashed cult, or a communist who worships Stalin?

  12. Under the Constitution, Trump can both run for and serve as president from behind bars. A scenario infinitely better than what we have today. Trump and only Trump in ’24.

    1. “When the president does it, that means it is not illegal,” right?

  14. Violent thuggish trump supporters are attacking innocent protesters. Marjorie Taylor Greens flees in her armored vehicle. Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

    “A Trump supporter just rushed the banner and tried to tear it up,” Mack said. “Started attacking the anti-Trump protesters. Very ugly and heated. Swarmed by media. Police struggled to get in to break it up. Getting heated.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/very-ugly-maga-supporter-violently-clashes-with-anti-trump-protesters-outside-courthouse/ar-AA19soGl

    1. BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.

    1. It’s the same offense copied and pasted 34 times, with the date changed each time. Laughable.

      1. Those are individual violations. He will have to defend against each when he goes to trial later in the year.

        There’s a conspiracy charge also.

        1. Your giddy delight demonstrates that you clearly do not understand the situation.
          Are you in a cult or are a communist who worships Stalin?

            1. At least 150 banking suspicious activity reports (SARs) related to the Biden family business dealings. Ouch.

        2. Bragg: “We can not, and will not normalize serious criminal conduct.”

          Last year, Alvin Bragg reduced 52% of all felony charges to misdemeanors.

          #Witch Hunt

  16. Criminal investigations into the Bidens – all of them – are being slow walked and dragging on…for years.
    Throw the book at the Biden family — now.
    Indict Joe Biden.
    Impeach Joe Biden.
    Arrest Hunter Biden.
    Arrest James Biden.
    Arrest them all.
    NOW.

    1. ‘If you don’t have a problem with what’s happening today, you’re either in a cult or are a communist who worships Stalin.’
      @cernovich

    2. China is very pleased with its return on investments.
      Buying off Joe Biden’s Crime Family has far exceeded the expectations of the CCP.
      Soros’s millions spent installing communist anti-American thug DA’s all across our country is paying dividends.
      Today is a good day for the Communists and Marxists deliberatly destroying our justice system.
      The Biden White House is giddy with glee. KJP can’t stop smiling.
      FJB.

    3. What crimes have been committed? You have to be charged first. Trump is already charged with 34 felony counts in NY.

      Hoping there will be a gag order along with that serving of justice.

      1. All you need is probable cause.
        There’s plenty of it with the Biden Crime Family.
        Bring indictments NOW, prosecutors.

          1. It is not a matter of a proven crime. It is a matter of a dishonest prosecutor and a poster that doesn’t know what he is talking about.

            1. LOL!! You cannot cite one crime. You have nothing LOL!!!

              You keep saying “proven crimes” but cannot cite a single one. LOL!!

              2. Svelaz – can you explain to us what is the crime Trump is being charged with? What is the charge?

                1. You can’t tell us. Because Bragg himself said “I don’t have to tell you.” So no one knows.

                  What a disgrace.

                  1. A check was our in the wrong column of the leger. A legal check was written. It was cashed and paid. Putting the payment in the wrong column is a crime to leftist Bragg who is a disgrace to the nation and the people. Trump shouldn’t have put it in the wrong column, but that was done in NY while he was in the White House in DC.

                    This type of abuse by Bragg is criminal.

                2. 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.
                  Since you’re apparently too lazy to even skim the indictment.

                  1. Where is the crime? Who wasn’t paid? Who was defrauded? Who wrote the check? Where did it defraud the IRS? How did the error change history or anything else? How did the check defraud the people of NY.

                    ATS has no answers, but that is what one finds when one reads the indictment. Nothing, It is less than expected and proves ATS was full of BS earlier. Bragg has a lot to say but he didn’t put it in the indictment. That means there is nothing.

                  2. Over 150 suspicious activity reports [SARs) flagging Biden Crime Family suspicious banking transactions in the US Treasury tracking system have been ignored until now. Money has freely flowed from the CCP [among other enemies] to the Biden family network of bank accounts for years.
                    TRUMP INDICTMENT IS THE DISTRACTION BIDEN AND DEMOCRAT THUGS needed to take the focus off the Biden crime family EVIDENCE of corruption, bribery, espionage, treason. Biden is a disgrace. Always was. He will fall.

  17. Because No One is Above the Law.

    Hunter Biden: Not arrested
    The Big Guy: Not arrested
    The Clintons: Not arrested
    Epstein’s clients: Not arrested
    Anthony Fauci: Not arrested
    DC insider traders: Not arrested
    Iraq War criminals: Not arrested
    COVID criminals: Not arrested
    BLM rioters: Not arrested

  18. DCCA has denied Trump’s motion to block Meadows, Scavino, Luna, McEntee, Cuccinelli, Stephen Miller and others from testifying about 1/6 to Jack Smith’s grand jury pending appeal. I won’t be surprised if Trump appeals it to SCOTUS and SCOTUS denies cert.

    1. So, I expect Trump will lose many of these motions – even some of those he should win.

      But in the end it will not matter.

      What is it that you expect these people to testify to ?

      We already know the most important part of what they are going to say.

      Trump did just about everything that he legally and constitutionally could do to chanllenge the rigged 2020 election.

      That is not a crime.

      A crime is an ACT. We KNOW all of Trumps ACTS. There is no secret.

      You seem to be of the beleif that one of these people will Roll on Trump.
      To do so would require that they LIE, because the Truth is not going to get you where you want.

      We saw this with Cohen. Cohen blathered in front of the Senate about how much he hated Trump.
      But even after Cohen Rolled on Trump – he had nothing to say.

      Because there was nothing to say.

      Trump’s ACTS are not secret.

      And contra the left – there is nothing he could have SAID that will get you any close to a crime.

      We have all watched for 6+ years as the court, the left democrats, Special Counsel, asosrted prosecutors have bent the rules and the law in every possible way to “Get Trump”.

      And it has gotten you nowhere.

      The collusion delusion failed, Mueller Failed – Because there was never a there there.

      I would suggest that you consider the blinding differences between Trump, Biden, Clinton.

      The more we know about Trump, the more is revealed, the more that what is hidden comes to light, the less credible claims against him become.

      While the more we learn about Clinton or Biden the more credible the case against them becomes.

      What is there in the Bragg charges that was not known in 2017 to most all of us ?
      What was not a crime then, is not a crime now – no matter how much you wish otherwise.

      Even if you succeed – all you do is make yourself look petty and small.

      Throughout the country we are in the midst of an epidemic of violence – Violence either by the left, or the result of bad choices of the left.
      Yet, instead of focusing law enforcement on actual crimes – murders, rapes, arsons,

      We have this nonsense. We have DOJ chasing down pro-life protestors, or parents angry that their daughter was raped by a trans person in the girls bathroom,
      With Crime increasing in NYC and actually violent criminals having charges dropped.
      Bragg is pushing this garbage ?

      With the Atlanta Police under violent Assault by Antifa – the Atlanta DA is more interested in What Trump said.

      As we learn the claims that J6 was an insurection are complete nonsense. As the Narative of the media, and democrats falls apart, DOJ is still busy trying to jail people for life for failing to KowTow to the left.

      The Tennessee state capitol was just invaded in actions significantly worse than J6 – where is the investigation ?
      Will anyone get charged. ?

      You are making yourself look Bad.

      “Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.”
      Napoleon Bonaparte

  19. ATS since you profess to knowing no money went to the Bragg campaign directly or indirectly you should be able to tell us where the money went. In=Out

    We can laugh later when you fail to provide the balance sheet.

    1. ATS self-deleted comment: “S. Meyer is also know as S. Meltdown. He’s having another one, today.”

      This doesn’t answer the question which is simple if you know what you are talking about.

      ATS since you profess to knowing no money went to the Bragg campaign directly or indirectly you should be able to tell us where the money went. In=Out

      We can laugh later when you fail to provide the balance sheet.

  20. The Leftist chant, for today, is: “Nobody is above the law.”

    Remind me, again, how long the FBI has had HB’s laptop, and who the AG is.

    During the pandemic, Leftists were permitted to protest publicly. Those on the Right were not.

    Everyone was banned from getting haircuts, et al. Except for those who weren’t.

    Leftist shock troops were permitted to assault a Federal building, for nights on end. Antifa and BLM goons were permitted to lay siege to American cities.

    Now repeat after me, 3X with feeling: “Nobody is above the law . . .”

    1. And all of this is taking place during Holy Week. Kind of surreal.

      They shouted back, “No, not him! Give us Barabbas! Hunter.” Now Barabbas Hunter had taken part in an uprising in selling out his country to foreign powers.

    2. It’s taken years to charge Trump. Why do you expect it to take less time for HB?

      Why do you assume that the laptop in the FBI’s possession (which we still don’t know was HB’s) has clear evidence of chargeable crimes?

      1. “It’s taken years to charge Trump.”

        Pure stupidity from ATS. Charges against Trump came very quickly. Sometimes they came before the act was created by the leftists. The charges against Trump lasted forever because indictments are hard to create when dealing with an innocent man.

        ATS stop living up to your name.

    3. Funerals too. Remember that important Democrats were able to pack themselves in, shoulder-to-shoulder, with masks of course, to pay their respects. The peasants? Nope. No family funeral for you.

      John Lewis was one large gathering. I believe there were others as well.

      “Rep. John Lewis’ funeral, held in Atlanta on Thursday, was invite-only due to coronavirus restrictions. Nonetheless, 50 members of Congress, including Democratic leaders, Congressional Black Caucus members, Ways and Means Committee and Georgia delegation colleagues — in short, Lewis’ best friends — were able to attend.”

      1. “No one is above the law”
        ROFL

        Should be no one is above our wrath

        1. These so-called leaders, like Pelosi, et al, deserve nothing but our contempt.

      2. The vitriole of those on the left for those who stray from orthodoxy is incredible.

        The most intolerant of all are those who demand that the rest of us must be tolerant of them.

        The font of hate in this country is almost exclusively on the LEFT.

        I have no idea whether Matteson is gay, was gay, whether religion can overcome being gay.

        Nor do I care. Matteson is free to hold whatever views he wishes, He is free to do so even if he is wrong.
        He is free to do so even if he is lying.

        He is free to do so even if he is an actual nazi.

        That is what free speech requires.

        It truly disturbs me that those who were actively subject to discrimination not too many decades ago,
        having over come to an enormous extent that persecution have now become the persecutors of everyone else.

        They have become what they claimed to hate.

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