“The hypocrisy is stunning.” Those words from President Joe Biden after his student loan forgiveness program was found unconstitutional were . . . well . . . stunning. Indeed, they may stand as the greatest example of transference in history.
Ever since President Biden first announced that he would unilaterally forgive roughly half a trillion dollars in student debt, many of us have noted that he lacked that authority under the Constitution. We were not alone: we had Joe Biden himself.
During the 2020 presidential election, Biden admitted that he needed congressional approval for such a massive loan forgiveness. Likewise, as cited in the opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) stated the obvious: “People think that the president of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not. He can postpone. He can delay. But he does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.”
The problem is that he could not get this measure through Congress and, despite his earlier acknowledgment of the obvious, Biden simply claimed that he could give away hundreds of billions of dollars without congressional authorization.
He is now crying hypocrisy when the Court said he was right all along.
Of course, denial is a common defense mechanism, the “unconscious forms of self-deception we use to avoid anxiety and emotional pain, or to ensure we are ‘acceptable’ to others.”
Transference is a common form of denial when a “fact is admitted to, but the person will deny their responsibility.”
However, in presidents, it is a costly habit.
From the outset, Biden’s use of the Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students (HEROES) Act of 2003 was questioned by a wide array of observers given the clear intent before the Act. Congress passed this short piece of legislation to assist military personnel deployed abroad in combat zones. No one seriously argued that Congress ever intended or even contemplated such a massive debt forgiveness program under the Act.
However, necessity is the mother of invention and Biden knew that there was no way that he could get Congress to approve such an unprecedented give-away. Many Americans opposed the proposal. Many elected not to go to college but to get jobs. Others spent years paying off their debts.
Instead of turning to Congress, Biden turned to some of the same experts who have green lighted past unconstitutional programs. For example, the Biden Administration was found to have violated the Constitution in its imposition of a nationwide eviction moratorium through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The President admitted that his White House counsel and most legal experts told him that the move was unconstitutional. However, at the urging of then Speaker Pelosi, he called Harvard University Professor Laurence Tribe who assured him that he had the authority to act alone. It was, of course, then quickly found to be unconstitutional.
When Biden faced the prospect of having to negotiate with Congress over raising the debt ceiling, some of the same experts surfaced to assure him that he did not. In other words, he could skip negotiating the raising of the debt limit and unilaterally borrow and spend billions. It was a position that would effectively gut the power of the purse and literally lacked a single supporting case as precedent. Yet, Tribe and others insisted that he could ignore Congress and just start spending hundreds of billions of dollars.
Yet, the President enablers in his denial psychosis. When Biden faced his past view against unilateral loan forgiveness as well as the view of others (including a prior DOJ memo), he again broke the glass for emergency legal support.
Tribe and others like University of Texas law professor Stephen Vladeck assured the president or the public that the authority was clear and obvious. It was not even a close interpretive question.
President Biden has now lost again 6-3 before the Court.
Despite his own stated view that this would violate the Constitution, he chose politics over principle. Even the Washington Post said that the move was presumptively unconstitutional, but hoped that standing questions would prevent the Court from striking down the program.
Now that the Court has found that he has again violated the Constitution by refusing to go to Congress, Biden responded by declaring that he would take a “new path.” That path, of course, does not lead to Congress. The problem with Congress is that it requires a democratic vote and the majority oppose this program.
So Biden is turning to Plan B and will try to do the same circumvention through the Higher Education Act of 1965. That was the law rejected earlier in favor of the HEROES Act by the Administration. The law would not support this broad loan forgiveness effort. Even if successful, it would excuse only some of these loans and would take a long time in the rulemaking process.
There is no Plan B under the Constitution. Congress controls the power of the purse and the President cannot govern alone. In the end, the President may want to take a sec with Stuart Smalley and understand that “denial is not just a river in Africa.” The fact is that he was once “good enough and smart enough” . . . to go to Congress.
Tribe shouldn’t be teaching constitutional law at Harvard or anywhere else. The man’s view of America is grossly flawed. He’s not even American by birth. His family are Eastern European expatriate Jews who went to China, then got into the United States after World War II. He’s a “progressive” which is a euphemism for Marxist. His whole goal in life seems to be destroying America and establishing a new social order.
Oh leave the whacky one alone. He has a brain tumor and it showed.
The “progressives” are progressing toward collectivism or Marxism?
Progressives and Marxists are patriotic and constitutional Americans or direct and mortal enemies?
The nomenclature can be confusing; please allow Vladimir Lenin clarify the issue:
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“The goal of Socialism is Communism.”
– Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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There.
He said it.
Obama deserves great credit for showing Biden the way to this brazen abuse of power. In his first term, Obama gave at least 20 public speeches in which he acknowledged he could not unliterally change immigration law via executive fiat.
Then after he won re-election and Democrats had control of the Senate, he conspired with Harry Reid to nuke the filibuster for judicial nominees so Democrats could stack the courts with left wing activists who they hoped would rubber stamp Obama’s planned power grabs. Then Obama made a number of public speeches in which he announced he planned to usurp Congress’s legislative authority by using his “pen and his phone” to change laws he didn’t like or impose new rules. Elected Democrats gave him standing ovations for giving his middle finger to the Constitution.
Despite having given those 20 public speeches stating he could not change immigration law unilaterally, Obama proceeded to impose DACA and DAPA by executive fiat. Not a single elected Democrat criticized his tyranny. Facing no criticism from anybody he cares about for that power grab – other Democrats, the media, academia, Democrat donors, etc. – the tyrant felt empowered to literally steal billions of dollars from the Treasury not appropriated by Congress to give to the insurance company cronies he’d promised to enrich if they’d support Obamacare. And he went around Congress to impose his Clean Power Plan to enrich Democrat donors in “alternative energy” companies.
Obama got away with it, so why wouldn’t Biden mimic his former boss’s attitude of, “go ahead, try and stop me” as he concocts more and more schemes to loot the treasury to enrich Democrat voters – in this case a segment of the population, college students, who overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Obama tried it. Why not Biden?
Democrats are ideologically driven, power mad, and evil. A few are waking up. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK (is partly awake), and former Democrat pundits and influencers like Greenwald, Taibbi, Sasha Stone, Shellenberger and others.
I believe Obama is STILL getting away with it. Surely no one believes there is no Puppenmeister behind the scenes pulling the strings and that person is BHO.
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The continuing Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco et al.
Remember the “apology tour” and the vow to “fundamentally” change America? Remember Solyndra?
America’s “constitutional democratic republic” ended in 2001.
Both Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court allowed Ronald Reagan’s torture treaty to be violated – the supreme law of the United States under Article VI of the U.S. Constitution and codified into federal law.
About 20 years later, none of the DOJ torture attorneys have been held accountable in any way. There has been 20 years of unconstitutional blacklisting happening – still ongoing today.
Guantanamo Bay gulag – the world’s most expensive taxpayer funded prison is still open. Supermax prisons are a fraction of the taxpayer cost if these are legitimate prisoners.
One likely hypothesis is that since the American republic ended in 2001, “Tribalism” between political parties filled that vacuum of lawlessness since 9/11.
It’s 20 years since the republic ended, so isn’t right now the best time to restore the republic? We now have hard evidence, that much of the Bush rhetoric was completely inaccurate and untrue. The so-called “worst-of-the-worst” were released by Bush himself. State-operated (federally funded) “Fusion Centers” there is hard evidence they used “terrorism” authorities for “non-terrorism” cases (although both types of governed by the U.S. Constitution – a wartime governing charter).
By not holding accountable the lawlessness of Bush officials, it actually created an incentive for Trump’s law breaking and his disloyalty to his Oath of Office.
There is no statute of limitations on Bush’s war crimes, why not rebuild the foundation of our constitutional republic first, before focusing on Trump?
And yet, within the next few weeks, a fresh crop of hundreds of thousands of abysmally stupid teenagers will take out “crushing” student loans for the purpose of acquiring university educations of rapidly diminishing value. Democrats are inordinately proud of the fact that “most college graduates vote Democrat”. The reason why they do becomes more and more clear.
“unilateral loan forgiveness”
There is no such thing as loan “forgiveness.”
Someone is compelled to pay those debts. That “someone” is you, who did not incur the debt. That multi-billion dollar decree was a massive redistribution scheme — aka: socialism.
Austrian economics [+10] vs Keynesian economics [<0 (Less than Zero)]
[Hayek/Austrians vs. Keynes]
Since 1981 ~ Trickle-Down-Economics, Does Not Work (.)
[2023-1981 = 42 years] The Proof ~ Here WE are THE NATIONAL DEBT $33 Trillion Dollars later.
https://www.pgpf.org/national-debt-clock
And Its getting worse: Deficit Tracker
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker/
WE have allowed the Constitution to be 'distorted' via Our economic pretensions.
The reality is the U.S. is Bankrupt, and The Great Social Contract (The United States Constitution) has been defeated.
WE need a: New Game and a New Set of Rules – It is Time to GET REAL.
He was simply following in his mentor’s foot steps. The ” mocha messiah” also said that DACA was unconstitutional… yet here we sit.
This was always a clear and obvious 14th amendment case in my mind. I write a blog and write about all 3 controversial cases this week.
https://seanclaycamp.wordpress.com/2023/06/30/scotus-weighs-in/
Jonathan: So the Supremes have ruled. Students with crushing student loans will have to pay them back. Great news for banks and other student loan companies. Bad news for students who struggle for years after graduation to pay off their loans. In many cases they never can because the interest keeps piling up. I am ashamed that in this still richest country in the world we cannot find a way to educate our young people without putting them at the mercy of the blood sucking for-profit student loan industry. I was fortunate enough to have parents who could afford to pay for my university education. But I know many schoolmates who were less fortunate and had student loans for years–making it impossible to think of getting married or buying their first home.
GOP politicians applauded the Court’s decision. They think student loan forgiveness was “unfair” to those who don’t get student loans. I don’t understand that kind of reasoning. If a wealthy white family can afford a college education for their kid(s) how is it “unfair” that a Black or Brown student is not saddled with loans with exorbitant interest rates? I think the “unfairness” argument is rooted in white resentment–the idea that Black, Brown and other minority students really don’t deserve to get the benefits of a society that favors white people. So when minority students were admitted to an elite university under an affirmative action program that was “unfair” to white and some Asian students. Now the SC, in two strokes this week, has eliminated both student loan forgiveness and affirmative action programs. The conservative 6-3 Court majority has decided it’s more important to protect white privilege. That will be the legacy of the Roberts Court.
Free stuff for everyone … right ? If you’re so ” ashamed” of this country, maybe you can sponsor a few students with YOUR OWN money.
Great news for banks and other student loan companies.
I don’t believe Banks are involved. If they are, they are indemnified by the federal govt. Zero risk exposure.
Add student loans to the topics you are wholly ignorant, but comment anyway.
I just wrote the same thing. Should have read the comments first
If one is scrolling down through the comments, yours comes after this. Be kind.
What I meant was that I should have read the comments first
𝐒𝐭𝐮𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐋𝐨𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐓𝐢𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐢𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐭 𝐑𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐖𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐖𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐒𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐭 𝐁𝐚𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐇𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐝 𝐚 𝐅𝐢𝐱𝐞𝐝 𝟔% 𝐑𝐞𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐭 𝐂𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐲
Student Loans Tied to Rise in Market Rates While Wall Street Banks Have Received a Fixed 6% Return from the Government for the Past Century
By Pam Martens: July 25, 2013 [𝐓𝐄𝐍 𝐘𝐄𝐀𝐑𝐒 𝐀𝐆𝐎 𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐒 𝐌𝐎𝐍𝐓𝐇!]
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/07/student-loans-tied-to-rise-in-market-rates-while-wall-street-banks-have-received-a-fixed-6-return-from-the-government-for-the-past-century/
𝐈𝐓’𝐬 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐋𝐄𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑𝐒 𝐒𝐓𝐔𝐏𝐈𝐃!
Top Student Loans
https://www.consumervoice.org/top-student-loan-companies
Private Student Loans
consumervoice.org/top-private-student-loan
Honestly IMHO – I don’t think the People that took these Loans ‘do not 𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭 to pay them back’, as if it is like some Unspoken Entitlement,
and a ‘Ha-Ha’ I’ve got mine for nothing and I’m ahead of You. This attitude really sucks for the People that have, 𝐃𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐖𝐨𝐫𝐤 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐅𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐉𝐨𝐛 – 𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐚𝐥𝐥.
There are essentially 2 kinds of student loans: guaranteed and private. Guaranteed student loans are those in which the government pays the interest (usually well above prime) while the student is in school, which is what makes them attractive as an “investment”. Wells Fargo is one of the biggest guaranteed student loan lenders. Last time I checked, Wells Fargo is a bank. Outfits like Wells Fargo bundle the student loans and sell them off to investment companies, who have the right, under our current laws, to grab a debtor’s tax refunds ad infinitum if the debtor is in default. They only need to file a simple form claiming that the loan is in default and they grab the tax refund. They apply the amounts to present interest and late fees–not to the prinicpal balance, which keeps on growing. Interest and penalties for late payments are handled differently with guaranteed student loans than other loans–in some instances, these sums are added to the principal, which then begins to accure interest on the higher balance. It is nearly impossible to qualify to discharge a guaranteed student loan in bankruptcy, even if someone becomes disabled or can’t find a job. Private student loans are dischargeable in bankruptcy, but students are encouraged to get the guaranteed student loans Due to the rollover of interest, late fees and penalties, this is how such loans become impossible to pay off and how the balances become enormous–multiple times the original loan This is why some people with student loans can never buy a house. It is a fact that a large portion of the balances of such loans consist of nothing but added interest, late fees and penalties rolled over into the principal. And, then, you have the probem of for-profit schools that aren’t accredited. Students at such schools don’t understand that the credits they get are not transferable to an accredited university. And, for programs like nursing, because such schools are not accredited, the student cannot sit for boards or ever get licensed. But, the student loans still have to get paid off.
You lost me at “can’t find a job”. There are by conservative estimates 11 MILLION unfilled jobs in this country, and according to creepy, sleepy joe, he has created 12.6 million in the last 2.5 years. 420,000 NEW jobs every month…who are these losers that can’t find a job. Biden was gonna send out 10 to 20 grand checks. Are you really trying to say that $10k is CRUSHING DEBT? Give me a f-ing break.
The ends (relief from “crushing debt”) doesn’t justify the means (taking it from non borrowers and people who have already paid off their debt). Typical.
Banks and loan companies do not get the money. The Federal Treasury (taxapyer) does. That’s why it was even an issue. If this was between banks and borrowers it would never have been a case.
I am ashamed that in this still richest country in the world we cannot find a way to educate our young people
The latest educational assessment has 3rd and 8th graders with the lowest scores in decades. Student loans have nothing to do with why.
You are a great proxy for mindless leftist. Look at your words and get a good grasp of the willful policies of the left, decimating the middle class.
Beggars are so much easier to control.
“I am ashamed that in this still richest country . . .”
Thus the Left’s basic, cannibalistic premise:
X is a value to me. I will compel others to pay for it.
@Dennis McIntyre: re: “The conservative 6-3 Court majority has decided it’s more important to protect white privilege. That will be the legacy of the Roberts Court.” The legacy of the Court in this matter is that it has struck down the concept of ‘Black Privilege’ and reminded us that Asians are ‘privileged’ as well, as it was an Asian group that brought the matter, which the Black Activists conveniently forgot, in that they are satisfied that issues of race are all about them. Moreover, it has preserved the concept of separation of powers which the Executive knowingly and willingly broached for personal and political gain. Biden’s own House Speaker made it clear that what the President was about was strictly the province of the House of Representatives as given by the Constitution, as was the RvW ‘dustu[‘, returned back to the States for resolution, where it properly belongs. We are a Constitutional Republic where rule is not by fiat, Executive orders which side step the province of the duly constituted governing bodies. Those who put forth arguments such as yours, and reason in said fashion, are a direct threat to that concept.
ZZDoc: I think you just made my case. You say the Roberts Court “struck down ‘Black privilege'”. That’s not the exact language Roberts used but that’s exactly what he did. Historically, universities have made a place for the kids from wealthy white families–either through “legacy” policies, making large donations or even bribing school officials. But you have never seen It’s called “White privilege”. But I guess that’s OK by you. Now days universities have tried to level the playing field for disadvantaged Black and other marginalized groups who didn’t have the advantage of “White privilege”. But you call that “Black privilege”. Just shows on which side of the racial divide you stand!
Now Presidents often use EOs to implement policies the Congress is unable or unwilling to address. Student loan forgiveness has been something the Dems have pushed for years. But either the GOP controlled Senate or House refused–because they supported the rapacious student loan industry. So Biden acted. Yes, “[w]e are a Constitutional Republic where rule is not by fiat…”. That’s what Justice Roberts said and which Prof. Turley endorses.
But your apparent preference for president next year had a different view of his powers. Trump thought he could rule by “fiat”. On 1/25/17 he signed EO 1378 in which he ordered that “sanctuary cities” that refused to comply with immigration policies wouldn’t be eligible for federal law enforcement grants. No GOP member of the Senate or House opposed that EO. But on 11/21/17 Judge Orick ruled Trump’s EO was unconstitutional. Pres. Biden rescinded Trump’s EO when he came into office. Don’t recall you complaining about Trump’s EO that “side step the province of duly constituted governing bodies”! Why is that?
@Dennis McIntyre: re: “: I think you just made my case.” Hardly. All you have are assumptions. You have no idea as to where I stand or who I support and for what reasons. You take your assumptions and ,in your usual fashion, run with them to argue and set forth your agenda. I have better things to do than to attempt to persuade you to come about from a philosophy and point of view which those herein already know to be fixed and immobile. One thing is for sure, you and your ilk, who support this President , his family of wretched moral fiber, and an administration which prefers to run with it in order to save their own skins at the polls are the proximate cause of the mess this nation is in.
So Dennis wants the Supreme Court to uphold a statute that countervails white privilege, because its the right thing to do, regardless of the fact that it violates the Constitution. Typical.
There are other ways to accomplish this. Legislation being the most obvious. But since equality (not equity) is a constitutionally protected right, of course it would require a constitutional amendment. Shouldn’t be too hard to rally the 81 million wokesters who voted for biden and pass that amendment. Biden himself seems to think that we all want this. Or maybe the “vast majority” that you lefties seem to think you have, doesn’t really exist.
You don’t appear to understand the term “loan.” Those with the debt chose it. There are grants, there are cheaper schools, there are GI bills…If the friends of yours who chose debt to these awful banks and schools didn’t want it, they should have made proper choices.
Here’s one problem with student loans–it encourages colleges and universities to jack up their tuition and fees–just like having health insurance–this encourages hospitals and doctors to jack up their fees, too.
No Dennis. The Court correctly ruled that the President lacks the legal authority to forgive debt (which he doesn’t). It had nothing to do with white privilege whatsoever.
I am not wealthy, and I am not white.
Why should I pay for other peoples debt?
I did not force them to go to college.
I did not force them to take out college loans.
If they majored in a useless degree like gender studies, then they should not complain they cannot find a job that pays $100k a year.
When my children were very young, I started a 529 college plan for them. It was not easy. In the beginning I had to work two jobs to make sure I could pay into it.
So I do the right thing, and am expected to pay for other people choices?
No.
Sir, you are missing the point entirely. The argument isn’t whether student debt is “unfair” to those who can’t afford to pay as they go…the debate was about whether the President has the power under the Constitution to unilaterally cancel the loan debts. He obviously does not, and he’s known all along that his grandstand promise, pandering to a bloc of young voters, would not stand. Basically, Biden led these cheering young people down a primrose path for several years knowing all along that the outcome would not be good. The disappointed debtors should be angry at the President, not at SCOTUS.
The Supreme Court case was not a mediation. The justices ruled only on the constitutionality of the attempt. It’s not their job to fix the problem that you have presented; that falls on the Congress (and by extension the voters.)
BRAINWASHING HERE!
“The Supremes ruled.”
What???
The Constitution has ruled, you ——- idiot!
Dennis the Meanass is charged with manipulating your brain cells employing false propaganda as indoctrination by communist party headquarters.
DTM and NUTCHACHACHA are a “tag team” sent out to this site to perpetrate PSYOPs.
Consider yourselves warned.
Not so stunning. When one is firmly convinced that the electorate are a basket of deplorables, brain dead idiots who would continue to return to office the likes of him and others of his ilk, cycle after cycle after cycle, the abuse of Executive powers becomes merely another dose of Kool Aid the lemmings will swallow. Particularly if its ‘free stuff’…another ‘Obamaphone’ so to speak. Hence, ‘blame it on the bossa nova’, and they’ll dance to the tune..
Let that be a lesson. In the future, be more careful from who you accept free lemonade
– Bruce Wayne/Batman
Batman (TV series)
🦇
One thing I find aggravating is that not one of the little “reporters” asking leading and “end of the world” questions about the student loan case never ask or remind Biden about the fact that both he and Pelosi said that he didn’t have the power.
Also, the left always state how SCOTUS is thwarting the will of the people how is it that congress hasn’t passed loan forgiveness if it is so popular?
The vast majority of people are against affirmative action and yet Biden and the Democrats are screaming for it. Most people don’t want the loans forgiven and yet Biden et all are going to continue fighting to do it. Lastly, most people don’t think a gay trans couple that owns a bakery should have to create a cake honoring a young girls DE-TRANSITION and yet this is what Biden et all are arguing for.
This is why the Dems try to never actually debate, they are wrong on most of the issues.
@hullbobby: re “This is why the Dems try to never actually debate, they are wrong on most of the issues” Yet, your observations notwithstanding, why should they bother. Wrong still got them the White House and the mess the Democrats in the House and Senate continue to defend. Their moronic voices during these committee investigations prove it out. Tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.followed by a break for a fried chicken lunch.
The total ineptness of Trump got Biden the White House (and even that would not have been enough without Trump’s particularly inept handling of Covid). His inept work in the GA Senate races (and probably a few others I don’t recall) cost the GOP the Senate in 2021 and 2023. Despite Trump, the GOP actually won back a lot of seats in the House in 2020 and took control in 2023 (and control would have been more secure except for Trump)
The total ineptness of
TrumpObama gotBidenTrump the White House (and even that would not have been enough withoutObamaparticularly inept handling ofCovid)the US ConstitutionFTFY
Estovir, way to stick it to Dennis.
Dennis, I actually agree with the gist of what you are saying with regard to Trump, but don’t forget what the left did during Covid, they shut us all down for way too long, they then rioted in the streets to make the chaos rattle the voters and then they lied about the laptop and censored anyone that raised it.
So Trump did make mistakes, but the Covid situation was a no win for him. If Trump didn’t shut it down every death would have had a CNN documentary, when he did shut it down people like Dennis said he didn’t either do it right or he didn’t do enough. What exactly could Trump have done to satisfy you?
PS. I dislike Trump and I hope any other Republican gets the nod.
Oh Golden Number 9-*
The list of what Trump did wrong over the four years is too long even for this comments page. But relative to Covid, the major thing he did wrong (with many variations off its root) was to back all the nutty wildly inconsistent things that Fauci came up with. The daily press conferences were a circus. He should have had Cuomo and NJ’s governor out front begging for the field hospitals and the ship (that it turned out they didn’t need or — out of TDS – would not use). Part of this early on might have been due to pushing Azar aside and putting Pence nominally in charge. Azar was a proven business manager with no political ambitions who knew how to analyze situations and get things done (and pivot when needed: after the “spread didn’t stop” after two weeks it was time for an entirely different tack… a la Sweden).
Most important, they should have been hammering home every day (they did this here in Massachusetts at first until they realized they would not get any Federal aid because they were showing these stats so clearly) that the average person seriously compromised or who died during this (as in all such epidemics and life in general) was 80 with multiple co-morbdities. That was known right from the get go and has never changed a year or two or a morbidity or two either way in three years now. (Later, it was publicly known — not sure this was known early enough to help Trump — that the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths were of people WITH Covid but not people dying FROM Covid.)
(On day one in 2017 Trump should have fired the top 5000 bureaucrats throughout government and then Fauci would not have been around to have caused all the problems he caused. I know… I know.. you can’t literally fire them but the Civil Service appeals would have proceeded at the same 10-year pace as DHS Amnesty Hearings and some transfers to Nome and a couple of months twiddling their thumbs in the Wheeling office would have weeded the problems out by the time Covid hit.)
*Being from Boston, I appreciated you giving props to Number 4 as the GOAT the other day in another comment
Elections have consequences. Who was it that said that? Was it the lying, inexperienced “articulate, bright, clean storybook” from Illinois, who was ostensibly elected based largely on race? That election directly resulted in the 5-3-1 conservative majority on the Supreme Court, when the “whitelash” occurred. Live with the consequences.
ZZ, great point about the Dems in Committee hearings, it is like a race to the bottom.
hypocritical mass
“What we have here is a failure to communicate,” (Cool Hand Luke). When the lawyers who most correctly assured his failure on constitutional matters were rejected the Crime Boss believed, that as a crime boss, he would get his way. When he ran up against the American People (Constitution) they swatted him down like the Syphilis that killed Al Capone!
From a strictly medical point of view, the demented individual, depending on the severity and type of dementia, can have a multiplicity of pathologies such as delusion (commonly seen-wildly misinterpreting actual events ), hallucinations (such as talking to people not there or shaking hands with the air), psychosis (everything is MAGA even if it is not), degradation of motor skills (that’s why when you get old they keep asking you about falling in the last 6 months when you visit the doctor) especially when climbing airplane steps. Hardly surprising they no longer have that acute sense of constitutional law. Hypothetical of course.
Who do we believe??
https://youtube.com/shorts/qRCQqeUiVqg
It is looking increasingly clear that Biden will be president for only 18 more months and that to date he has really been just a figurehead for a far left wing cabal of bureaucrats and admitted socialist politicians. None of his actions as president is consistent with his statements as a candidate or his speeches in 70 years in the Congress before that (or however long it was). Apparently he ran just for the four years of flying around on Air Force One (mostly 4-minute flights to Delaware) put there because the real power – Obama, etc. – knew Bernie, Warren, etc. could not win.
So the question is: Who will take over in 2025? Have the socialists cemented their place enough in the court system, justice system, FBI, etc. after 16 years of controlling the bureaucracy (even when Trump was in because Trump was so incompetent) to get anyone elected? Biden’s 2020 win is a proofpoint that they are close to that level of power but if they were able to push Harris through in 2024 when Biden drops out, that would be the clincher (but hey, she would be the first biracial Jamaican Canadian Irish Indian president–that’s gotta count for something)
I don’t think Obama will let that happen for the same reason he kept Bernie out of the running in 2016 and 2020. I think it will be de Santis vs. Newsome in Nov 2024, a classic political battle of two different ideological views with each man having records of successfully running large states and having been re-elected in those states overwhelmingly. All the other Republicans are lightweights and/or proven losers, with one already proven to be totally inept at running the Federal government. We like Governors as President (Bush II, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, FDR, Coolidge, Wilson, Taft-Phillipines, McKinley, Cleveland, etc.) and this would the first election recently (ever?) pitting two Governors (Stevenson vs. Eisenhower, and Washington vs Jefferson were similar except that one of the two — and winner in both cases — were Generals not Governors)
Dennis, I think you are right but forgetting one thing. Trump won’t just go away, even if he is put away. He and his minions will undermine DeSantis and hand it to the DemComs again.
There’s a chance of that. Certainly the Bernie Bros did that to Hillary in 2016. But I just don’t see conservatives in the four or five states that will matter (MI, NC, AZ, GA, ??) doing it. (And RFK Jr. may cause a little of that on the left next year too.)
Oh no, you are not as wise an old lawyer as we thought!
Desantis is doing a fine job of undermining himself by running a really really bad campaign and also by having NO charmisma, like none.
Vivik Ramaswamy, on the other hand, is rising in the polls, running an excellent campaign, has great ideas, great presence, courage to speak bluntly and clearly, and people want to listen to him talk.
Desanits may be a good governor, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor and his campaign is not being run well at all.
He’s going to implode all on his own. Watch for it.
Dennis, my only issue with your comment is that you say Newsome and DeSantis are two governors that have successfully run states. Please show us how CA is being run well.
I would amend that to “two states perceived to be run well by supporters” and then both sides can have at it. To be honest I used to go to SV once a month for business and Southern Cal a few times a year and found it well run. But since I retired (2006) I have not been back.
If CA is so well run, why is the state losing hundreds of thousands of citizens every year amounting to billions in tax revenue losses?
American States Once Awash In Cash See Their Fortunes Suddenly Reversed
“California, New York lead declines in revenue so far this year”
There is also the homeless issue, the open air drug issue, the rampant crime that is forcing many companies to up and leave some downtown city centers.
Forgot the linky,
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-30/florida-texas-see-tax-revenue-grow-while-california-new-york-post-declines
When a state with the best weather in the country and some of the best geography is losing citizens something is wrong and it is a man-made something…LIBERALISM.
I too used to go to SF almost every year or every other year but I haven’t been there in about 10 years now and I will never be back.
Poll: 4 in 10 Californians are considering leaving due to cost of living
“Great weather, beaches, opportunity, and being among the top 5 economies in the world, all factor in its attraction.”
That (bold) is a accounting trick.
They factor in state and federal money/spending into their state GDP.
The Boomberg article displays that.
Biden ran for one reason and one reason only: To avoid scrutiny over Burisma. And one cannot conclude that he “won” without admitting corrupt, unethical, and illegal acts as legitimate to the election process. The 2020 presidential was stereotypical Tammany Hall, good enough for the Clintonites perhaps, but not for the overwhelming majority faithful to American culture and the American Way.
Biden gets re-elected, with Harris. In his second term he will be wearing an adult diaper and the white house will be converted in an assisted facility. This will be a show of complete contempt for our electoral process.
I can not, WILL NOT vote for a career politician. Anyone who believes the system can be reformed or fixed from within is either deluded or truly evil. Washington needs to be figuratively (and perhaps even literally) burned to the ground and every single elected official and bureaucrat, both appointed and career, right down to city dog catcher needs to be pilloried and driven from power never allowed to return. We need to go back to 1787, right after the Constitution is signed and start over again as if it is Day One.
If John Eastman can be disbarred for promoting “wrong” constitutional theories, why can’t Lawrence Tribe be disbarred for promoting even more wrong theories? Another example of unequal justice?
There were three Supreme Court justices who,didn’t even agree with Biden and Pelosi, that the forgiveness plan was unconstitutional. Obviously, some have been brainwashed by Tribe and his ilk. These people have absolutely no place on a Supreme Court if they have no ability to remove their preferences from there legal rulings.
(Is there a typo in there somewhere? )
Whatever, I don’t think they ruled the plan unconstitutional, just that it had be voted on by Congress not created by fiat. If Biden could get the requisite number of Congresspeople to vote for it, then it’s totally constitutional. That’s as opposed to race based admissions, which were ruled unconstitutional 20-25 years ago (decisions which were finally cemented this past week), and it would not matter how many Congresspeople voted one way or another on the subject (race based admissions now would require a Constitutional amendment and Congress does initiate such changes)
Great point, that is the really scary part of this decision. How can the 3 say this loan forgiveness was even remotely constitutional. All the more reason to remember what was at stake in the 2016 election and the long term consequences in HC was elected. Same will hold true for 2024
I generally overlook the occasional typos on this blog but the paragraph that begins “Yet, the president…” makes no sense as it stands. I couldn’t decipher it and I did try.
I wouldn’t sell a life insurance policy to any of those 6 Supreme Court Justices.
I see you know Democrats well.
Well now that’s a rather bizarre comment…