Academia, Constitutional Law, Supreme Court

The Affirmative Aftermath: Schools Now Insist that Race had a Major Impact in Admissions

There is an interesting debate unfolding around the country in the aftermath of the Supreme Court barring the use of race in college admissions. For decades, colleges and universities have sought to downplay the weight given to race in court while insisting that it was one of a number of factors used in maintaining diversity. Now, however, schools are insisting that, without considering race, minority admissions will plummet.

During the Supreme Court oral arguments over affirmative action, Harvard’s counsel Seth Waxman struggled with an argument that race consideration was needed to maintain current admissions for minorities. Yet, he also maintained that it was not a major factor and that the consideration of race with regard to Asian students produced only a “slight disparity” and “had no effect with respect to outcomes.”

It was no easy argument. As in past cases, the Court was assured that it was just one of a number of “tips” that was not substantial in the decisions. Yet, after the Court barred the use of race criteria, schools are now arguing that it will make a massive difference and substantially reduce minority admissions.

Since the 1970s, the Supreme Court has ruled that race could not be a determinative or major factor in admissions. In Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, the Court ruled against affirmative action. In his plurality decision, then-Justice Lewis F. Powell Jr. stopped short of barring the use of race in admissions entirely. Instead, he cited Harvard University’s admissions policy as an example of how race can be one of a number of diversity elements.

In the 2003 decision in Grutter v. Bollinger, the Court upheld Michigan’s use of race but then-Justice Sandra Day O’Connor cautioned that the court “expects that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest approved today.” That was 20 years ago.

Since that time, universities have insisted that they only use race as one of many factors and that it does not carry the determinative weight rejected in Bakke. For decades, universities and colleges maintained this difficult line of downplaying the importance of race in admissions.

However, even the limited use of racial classifications continued to divide the Court for decades. In 2017, Chief Justice John Roberts declared: “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”

In his decision last week, Roberts noted that minority students could still raise their own individual struggle with racial discrimination in essays, but that schools cannot employ threshold classifications to give an advantage or disadvantage because of race.

Many of us support efforts to maintain diverse classes and see the value of such diversity in the education process. I have found economic diversity to be one of the most important elements to my classes. Students who come from lower income families often have a sharply different view on many of the issues that we discuss in our classes.

Yet, it is the frank discussion of the racial criteria that is so interesting in the aftermath of the decision. Many now insist that racial criteria was determinative in a large number of applications. The latest was State University of New York (SUNY) system Chancellor John B. King, Jr. who gave a strikingly conflicted account on NPR that was not challenged in the interview.

On Friday’s broadcast of NPR’s “Morning Edition,” King stated that an admissions process based only on individual merit would result in “fewer black and Latino students on campuses.” Yet, at the same time, he insisted that use of individual merit alone would not impact white or Asian students.

He told host Steve Inskeep:

“Yeah. Again, I think they’re misrepresenting how the admissions process works. There are policies at Harvard, for example, where students are admitted because they are legacies, because they’re one of multiple generations in their family to go to Harvard. There are students who are admitted because they’re a tuba player. There are students who are admitted because they’re great lacrosse players. And so, there [are] a range of factors as universities try to build a diverse class.”

King then emphasized “by removing the tool of race-conscious admissions, the evidence is it results in fewer black and Latino students on campuses.”

Of course, a minority student who plays the tuba can still get that “tip” with other indications of individual merit separate from racial classifications. Minority students clearly have similar “tips” based on individual merit from achievements in tuba to tennis to trigonometry. If the factor was given no more weight than a tuba talent, one would think that the drop in admissions would not be as severe given a myriad of other qualifications or tips in applications.

Soon after the decision, California Gov. Gavin Newsom objected to the ruling in saying that admitting students solely based on their individual merits, without considering race, would result in a massive drop in minority admissions.

Likewise, over at The Nation, Elie Mystal insisted that, without factoring in race, minority admissions always drop: “In California, which ended its affirmative action policies over 25 years ago, the studies show that, without affirmative action, Black enrollment plummets, Latino enrollment plummets.” He insisted that this was a victory for “mediocre white people.”

[Mystal later attacked Justice Thomas on MSNBC, describing Thomas as a “mutilated version of a black justice” who just did whatever his wife, who is white, tells him to do. Rather than accept that Thomas holds opposing constitutional views, Mystal insisted “he doesn’t want to see anything that Ms. Ginni tells him he shouldn’t be able to see.”]

The difference between the arguments and the aftermath of the affirmative action decision is striking. What was presented as a relative modest “tip” based on race to the Court is now being presented as a huge factor in admissions. If left to individual merit, advocates and administrators now insist that that minority admissions will sharply decline and white/Asian admissions will rise.

Nevertheless, King insists that such determinative use of race had no negative impact on white or Asian students while insisting that the number of admissions for white or Asian students will increase substantially when only individual merit is accessed.

That was all to explain why people just do not understand “how the admissions process works.”

256 thoughts on “The Affirmative Aftermath: Schools Now Insist that Race had a Major Impact in Admissions”

  1. Rep Ocasio-Cortez NYC, former barmaid calls for changes to the Supreme Court.

    I’ll take a Harvey Wallbanger & Rabies shot to protect against Coyotes that the DNC unleashed.

    1. Bucky,
      You know, that could actually be fun to watch her try to spar with Justice Roberts.
      I think he would run her in circles and sit back and watch her make an embarrassment of herself.

      1. Upstate – that would be like a boxing match between Muhammad Ali in his prime, versus Dylan Mulvaney.

        1. OldManFromKS,
          That mental image alone brings a smile to my face!
          Thank you!

    2. Allhysteria O’crazio Corkheads does have her good “points,” I gotta say.

  2. I love how the liberals scream that ” diversity” is necessary in schools in order to enhance education. Since when do the theorems of mathematics change based on skin color ?

  3. Elie Mystal insisted that, without factoring in race, minority admissions always drop: “In California, which ended its affirmative action policies over 25 years ago, the studies show that, without affirmative action, Black enrollment plummets, Latino enrollment plummets.” He insisted that this was a victory for “mediocre white people.”

    Beautiful! These racists just cannot stop projecting. Of course racism is at the root of the problem. The Democrat’s long history with using race as a weapon and not a demographic will not end until that weapon turns on them.

    1. The implication is that any minority who lost his or her place in the admissions process to a “mediocre white person” was worse than mediocre. I don’t see how one can escape that logic.

    2. He was right. Turley left out the statistics proving Mystal’s assertions. It’s not racist. It’s statistical fact.

      1. Mystal’s comments on Justice Thomas were racist, but putting that to one side, Turley’s point was not that Mystal’s statement was racist, but that it was inconsistent with the argument used prior to the SCOTUS decision, namely, that taking race into account in admissions made very little difference.

        2. No, Turley left out the fact that Mystal provided statistics backing up the assertion. It was convenient for him to leave it out.

          1. There are no such things as statistical facts, only people who don’t understand what statistics tell us, probabilistically and under critical assumptions about the properties of the data being analyzed.

            1. In wild overestimate, Americans think 30% of the country is Jewish
              By Arno Rosenfeld March 16, 2022 (ROSENFELD IS, YES, JEWISH)
              Americans significantly overestimate the number of Jews living in the country, according to a survey released Tuesday. Respondents guessed on average that 30% of the U.S. population is Jewish — a sum 15 times the actual proportion.
              https://forward.com/news/484069/in-wild-overestimate-americans-think-30-of-the-country-is-jewish/

              Now, that wouldn’t indicate jewish over representation in media, msm, GOVERNMENT, potus cabinets, universities, hollywood control and actors, banking, loans and loan software, MIC issues…. on and on and on…

              That’s where wild over estimations come from.

              Rachel Maddow The remaining quarter of her ancestors were Jewish and self-identified as Russian and Polish at the time of their arrival in the U.S., but by today’s borders, their old country hometowns are located in *Ukraine* and Lithuania.
              “Rachel is sporting a modified version of her family’s original surname. Her Maddow great-great-grandfather came here with four young sons from Poltava, *Ukraine*. Their name at the time? Medwedof. ” JEW

              Rachel conforms to power with her fake last name.

  4. The answer is clear, and will be provided by the free market: more tuba schools will open up in minority neighborhoods.

  5. ” Jews now make up 9.9 percent of Harvard’s undergraduate enrollment and 12.2 percent at Yale, according to estimates on Hillel’s website. The share of Jewish students at Columbia University is an estimated 22.3 percent.May 8, 2023″ google
    “As of 2020, the core American Jewish population is estimated at 7.6 million people, accounting for 2.4% of the total US population.”

    So, 400 percent to 1000 percent over representation of jews at the Ivy leagues. Who also pushes racial diversity – the same people who have the most over representation, far above any other group, it’s great “cover”.

    Take a look at any president’s cabinet, the jewish over representation sometimes reaches FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT.
    What is meant by all the president’s children ? They all marry jews. LOL
    So everyone in power knows and doesn’t talk about it.

    1. OK. Start at the beginning. First issue: are these Jewish students being admitted based upon individual merit? Yes, or No? We can then get to the second issue or question. But start with answering the first inquiry

      1. LOL Good question, since you or I don’t run Harvard or any Ivy League, you’ll have to guess. So let’s guess. Merit is not top priority, born with characteristics are. Born ethnic or born a jew. Who is the most oppressed besides blacks and browns according to the social milieu. Jews, you nasty hitler orange person. What nation have we been fighting wars for, for over 20 years or many decades more, what name must thee not speak in disparagement ?
        We all know this as well.
        So your guess is as good or worse than mine. Be a liar, go ahead.

      2. Are the Doors to Elite Universities Still Open to Jewish …
        Minding The Campus
        https://www.mindingthecampus.org › 2019/06/22 ›
        Jun 22, 2019 — At Yale, Harvard and Cornell, the Jewish student number between 20 and 25 percent, while between 13 and 20 percent of the students at Dartmouth, …
        GOOGLE
        LOL
        The gigantic elephant in the room must not be spoken of.
        Oh it’s so ridiculous.
        Janet yellen
        Chuck Schumer
        Philip Zelikow
        the penguin (antifa is a concept antifa doesn’t exist)
        Adam shifty
        on and on and on – tell me I’m wrong I’ll give you an eye opening list that is not it below

        “Jewish senators

        All are Democrats, except for Sanders, an Independent who caucuses with Democrats:

        Michael Bennet, Colorado (Bennet’s mother is a Holocaust survivor. He does not identify with a religion.) Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut Ben Cardin, Maryland Dianne Feinstein, California Jon Ossoff, Georgia (freshman) Jacky Rosen, Nevada Bernie Sanders, Vermont Brian Schatz, Hawaii Charles Schumer, New York Ron Wyden, Oregon
        There are 37 Jewish members of the 117th Congress ”
        JERUSALEM POST

        So is it possibly fair to say jewish over representation in the top colleges nationwide is supported – very quietly on the national stage ?
        Why isn’t it loudly condemned by the black and brown supporting demoncrats ? The most positions taken from them are taken by jews.

        Call me a liar ?
        ” Which Ivy League has the most white students?
        New data confirms what you’ve probably already guessed: Princeton is the whitest Ivy in the League. According to stats retrieved from College Scorecard, 47 percent of Princeton’s students are white ” GOOGLE

        Well, whites are said to be 53% or 60 percent plus of the USA …. not less than 47%

        So once again, I and WE know who the liars are, or both of us now know.
        You’re welcome.

      1. LOL In 1954, the WW2 fallout from Europe, and a psychologist, also very likely jewish.
        Columbia is a JOURNALIST SCHOOL. Ivy leagues pump government bureaucracy full up, from bottom to top.
        White have FAR MORE high IQ children and students since the population is far higher than the jews.
        SO NO JEW IQ DOES NOT EXPLAIN IT PERIOD.
        What you told me was, the bias was already present in 1954.
        Which makes sense.
        Not a single notable IQ jew from the euro continent wouldn’t get immense preferential treatment, never let a disaster go to waste, a war in that case – call Rahm EMANUEL and ask him, he probably knows plenty PERSONALLY about it.

        So, in summary, babbling stupid things as if they are a standalone proof only related to your corrupted mind (made simple by your masters you support or your personal fear, probably both) is not
        something that slides by me.
        Nor should it anyone else.
        You’re welcome.

        1. I guess if you begin your response with LOL In 1954, the WW2 fallout from Europe, and a psychologist, also very likely jewish you must be right. No arguing with that. A regular genius.

          1. Well, are you a fool or not ? We absolutely saved as many as we could, and you know it. Our nuclear bomb creators, some jewish. Your favorite I love science but know none Einstein … got any clue there ?
            Link your STAT, and well see if the psychologist is jewish … I’ll take those 90%+ odds any time.
            NO, instead you want to pretend, and I am a genius, with scores so high “I AM OBVIOUSLY JEWISH” according to you. MENSA, no problem.
            Now got your link, or do I find it myself ?

          2. I see you’ve bailed while I’ve made progress.

            New York University’s Counseling Center for Gifted Children is the claimed body for the study

            1. Nurse, please mark in the record that Shakdi’s seizures ended at 8:45 PM. Take him to the rubber room. Prognosis: poor.

    3. Shakdi, you are for merit except for Jews. Wow, we don’t get to see someone so bigoted to often, but it is quite something to behold. Tell us Shakdi, what “are you”? Are you white? Are you Hispanic? Are you black? Are you Muslim? Are you Italian? Polish? French? WASP? Are you a redneck? What type of person has such a hatred for Jews? Tell us more about yourself so we can try to understand such hatred for a people that have suffered bigotry as long and as virulently as any other group.

      1. HullBobby,
        Well said.
        It is not often we get this level of anti-semitism here.
        I wonder if for enduring thousands of years of persecution, of struggle as a people, has that actually been ingrained in the Jewish people at the genetic level? Hence their higher IQ, discipline, grit to not only succeed but survive?
        Note, I have a number of Jewish friends.

        1. I have way more jewish friends than you do. They aren’t cowardly liars either.

          1. You don’t seem to have the qualities to merit Jews or any intelligent people befriending you. Maybe we haven’t seen your better qualities.

      2. What a scoundrel does is mischaracterize, attack, ignore stats and the point, add in things that aren’t said, never give their own opinion on the topic, or just make a lie about it, and then dig for personal information to be used as a weapon, not discussing the issue at hand, college admissions and fair or unfair and for whom ?

        Well, in the few minutes of my googling fun, I have discovered whites are greatly under represented in the Ivy League – something NONE of you great geniuses have ever said here – oh you will be saying it now in the future. The demoncrats have attacked and screamed the ol boy whitey system is crushing their brownie points down – BUT WHITEY IS UNDER REPRESENTED.

        Now, are you going to fight for equal admission for the downtrodden white race ? LOL
        Jews are way ,way way way OVER represented, so you don’t have to babble and cry and moan and shriek orange man bad is going to exterminate them (in their hate filled mind) –

        What you must do is FIGHT FOR THE WHITES GETTING ADMITTED OR YOU ARE A HATE FILLED BIGOTED MONSTER OUT FOR GENOCIDE(ok maybe not another failed final solution but could be we’ve seen it said publicly a lot) OF WHITE PEOPLE…. according to your own “policy” above.

        Can I count on your total support, or your hate filled racist mind ? I mean you hate that one you claim I hate this one, I guess fair is fair ? So truce, or are you all in ?

        1. “Jews are way ,way way way OVER represented”

          You can’t stand merit because you are left behind. Look at the greatest scientists in the 20th century. Jews are overrepresented there as well.

          1. That’s a claim you’ve made with a lie, and it is incorrect.
            MY CLAIM IS 100% CORRECT.

            The problem is , of course, since you have no rebuttal, you scream attacks. So you got it back. Be a big boy. Face the facts, and stop screaming at those who provided them.
            That would be Jeruslam post, TheTab, Princeton University and others via Goggle and it’s choices.

            So we can say you have screamed jews are your master and they deserve it, and you, though you didn’t know or don’t care, are okay with the demoncrats attacking whites and lying about their percentage in University, never mentioning your masters, who also support the demoncrats attacking whites who aren’t the problem, they are a minority under represented.
            So you hate white people, and are a JEWISH SUPREMACIST.

            Good to know. I actually have to conclude that.

              1. So you’re saying it is even worse, white’s can say then they have 8 percent less that the 43 percent said to be white at Princeton, that brings it down to 35% white.
                Good to “know” how “identity” is chosen… which is to say, anyone chooses whatever they want, including on the us census, no matter the truth

            2. Anonymous told you Jews are overrepresented in science. We can add they are overrepresented in most fields but you call that lies. I won’t bother to educate you further because it seems you don’t even recognize Jews are white like another poster said.

              Why would the above anonymous, below now, or I hate whites? You are demonstrating your bigotry again. Thomas Sowell’s name has been brought up on the list many times. He is one of the most brilliant economists alive today. He is Black. Try reading his books.

              2. NONE OF YOU HAVE TOLD ME ANYTHING.
                You’re morons who repeat pablum I’ve heard a thousand times by other sheep.

    4. What you are saying is that Jews are smart and productive. Don’t knock it as that means they help elevate your existence.

      1. LOL
        Oh boy. I didn’t say your first sentence, that is racist, or are you going to follow up with black and brown too ? Whites also ? Christians maybe ? I said what I said, not what you claim you want me to say. You could add the Amish, or farmers, as I’d prefer, smart and productive. Add in mexicans are hard workers or bigotry is in your blood – see how that works, let’s hope so.
        Second sentence first part, we both know that is absolutely forbidden, so why are you worried about it ? Helping me out ? LOL
        Second part, according to high end college admission stats, which is the topic, that is not true.

        Princeton the whitest of ALL IVY LEAGUES, 47% white (53-60% us pop), 9.6 percent of Princeton students, are Jewish.(2 percent pop) May 8, 2023

        So… does that help you, elevated you ? LOL Obviously you don’t have to answer, you were going for a general mind virus widespread love thing, it was obvious. You can’t prove what you said or disprove it, and neither can anyone else. Do overs with reverse time travel aren’t a thing. Worship whomever you want, but when you blow smoke up my backside I will probably notice.
        Who is running this movement that has so elevated me ? George Sorros ? Is he the forbidden thing that must not be spoken ? Obviously you don’t have to answer.

        “Thanks” for all the help and “setting me straight”. LOL

        1. Don’t shift your personal racism onto others. You constantly make anti-Semitic remarks, and I responded by saying, Don’t knock them as “they help elevate your existence.” Are you saying Jews don’t contribute to society? I understand it when people say your type doesn’t help elevate society because it is clear you have problems and are probably a burden, or at least your racism is.

          I agree productive people of all stripes are better for society. Jews are very productive in a lot of fields, so when you mention a set of Jews in a derogatory manner, remember the Jews who are responsible for a good portion of your standard of living.

          You bring up George Soros. You have a lot in common with him and his mother. You are all a bunch of anti-Semites. George was born Jewish, but he converted. Based on your logic, what does that make Christianity?

          1. I’ll accept your apology FOR YOUR LIES when you get it.
            You claimed I said something I didn’t say.
            I gave STATISTICS.
            You turned that into racism.

            “I agree productive people of all stripes are better for society.”
            Then keep your yapper on it instead of excusing your masters.

            1. “You turned that into racism.”

              Your words here and elsewhere say the same thing and make you sound like a bigot and an anti-Semite. Others feel similarly. (Example: “we don’t get to see someone so bigoted to often”)

          2. BLAH BLAH BLAH “George was born Jewish, but he converted. Based on your logic, what does that make Christianity? ”

            Shows how much a blowhard fool you are.
            George Soros is an atheist dumb dumb.

            “Do you believe in God ? ” (60 minutes)
            “No” GEORGE SORROS

            So you know so much that you don’t know. The Gipper has his eye on you.

            1. Soros converted, but you didn’t know that. He is an atheist and so are many that are considered Christians even though they are non-believers. Shall we add fool to your status of bigot and anti-Semite?

    5. Please realize that there are, basically, 2 separate Jewish communities in the US. There are reformed Jews who are Jewish in DNA only but who practice a very progressive, non-Talmudic interpretation that allows them to support such things as gay marriage etc. And then there are the orthodox Jews who follow the Talmud to the letter and would never support affirmative action or welfare or anything socialist etc. and are very politically conservative. You cannot lump them together.

    6. Could this over-representation be because the Jewish culture places greater value on academic achievement than it does on athletic achievement? Or could it be because there are fewer unwed Jewish parents? Or perhaps because fewer Jewish children grow up without fathers? Or maybe because drug and alcohol abuse isn’t as prevalent in the Jewish community? I really don’t know the answers (I’m not Jewish), but it does seem these are some factors that should be considered before making blanket generalizations about an entire group.

      1. Keep your eyes wide shut.
        Oh, sorry, so sorry, I wasn’t attacking the super famous jew.

        Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced, and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. It is based on the 1926 novella Traumnovelle (Dream Story) by Arthur Schnitzler, transferring the story’s setting from early twentieth-century Vienna to 1990s New York City.
        ARTHUR SCHNITLZER “He was the son of a prominent Hungarian laryngologist, Johann Schnitzler (1835–1893), and Luise Markbreiter (1838–1911), a daughter of the Viennese doctor Philipp Markbreiter. His parents were both from Jewish families.”

        LOL IT’S JEWS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN GUESS I CAN’T SAY ANYTHING.

        Viennese = VIENNA
        “Austrian Jewish community was one of the largest in Europe. Vienna was an important center of Jewish culture, education and Zionist thought. At different times, some of the greatest Jewish thinkers called Vienna home, including Theodor Herzl, Sigmund Freud, Franz Kafka and Viktor Frankl. ”

        Oh, all your guys favorite movers and shakers in political commentariat and the recent past… LOL

        Yeah, gee …. golly … 1,000 percent too much is great !

      2. The same could be said about Asian students and other communities that uphold traditional values. The problems many have in this nation are based on misdirection of cultural underpinnings when the prog/left initiated the socialist state of welfare and all the dysfunction to traditional values that followed. Pile on to that the grievance industry manufactured by the prog/left to guarantee them votes from those who have been convinced of their grievance and there is a potential for failure in so many areas. Don’t blame the race, blame the ideology.

    7. That is an awesome statistic! They are the culture of super achievers and are only 0.2% of the world’s population but are 22% of the Nobel Prize winners, win a third of awards, and contribute significantly to science, medicine and technology. They have rich 4000 year history that includes: 400 years of bondage, and years of Babylonian captivity. When the Roman siege of Jerusalem, massacre, and finally the diaspora occurred in the year 70, they managed to retain their culture, language, and religion for almost two thousand more years. They are a remarkable and resilient people. This has less to do with IQ and more to do with diligence, expectations, tight families and expectations. Fascinating.

      My professional colleague and business partner for years was from India. They as a culture are also very high achievers, have close families and communities. Excellence and academic achievement is expected and inculcated not only as culture but is also revered in the Hindu belief system. “For Hindus, education vanquishes a fundamental source of human suffering, which is ignorance, (says Anantanand Rambachan, a professor of religion at St. Olaf College). As a result, education has been highly valued in Hinduism since the religion’s inception in ancient times.”

      I lived in India as a teen and it did not take long for me to understand that there is no safety net. Having a topnotch eduction and work ethic is everything. Without it, consequences are dire.

      Our students need is an intimate understanding of what life is like outside of this nation, especially outside of the western culture. They need a fire lighted under and inside of them, an extrinsic and intrinsic sense of concern.

      1. nobel prize winners

        Paul Krugman your favorite writer yes yes totally earned it
        Ben Shalom Bernanke is an American economist who served as the 14th chairman of the Federal Reserve from 2006 to 2014. LOLHAHAHAHAHAH wow totally deserves it… 2008 blow up was so cool

        Joseph Eugene Stiglitz is an American New Keynesian economist, a public policy analyst, and a full professor at Columbia University. He is a recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences and the John Bates Clark Medal. He is a former senior vice president and chief economist of the World Bank. (NEW KENEYSIAN YOUR FAVE MODEL OF MONEY PRINT FOREVER!) totally totally earned it not propaganda again as usual

        Barack Obama – yes under the belt such a great job !

        Tobias Michael Carel Asser was a Dutch lawyer and legal scholar. In 1911, he won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work in the field of private international law, and in particular for his achievements establishing the Hague Conference on Private International Law.
        OH GOLLY SIGN UP FOR THE HAGUE ! …. “Is The Hague Convention still in effect?
        Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 – Wikipedia
        Although their contents have largely been superseded by other treaties, the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 continue to stand as symbols ” ….

        SIDELIGHT: Paul Ralph Ehrlich (born May 29, 1932) is an American biologist best known for his pessimistic—and wildly inaccurate[dubious – discuss][2][3]—predictions and warnings about the consequences of population growth and limited resources. THE POPULATION BOMB … ANOTHER FAVE JEW !!! Ehrlich was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the son of William Ehrlich and Ruth Rosenberg.
        NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NOBEL PRIZE WINNER

        Rainer Weiss of the LIGO fraud

        I could go on and on, but you sure showed em huh ….

        “If you are able to go to the Holocaust museum in Berlin, Germany, at the Alfred Nobel exhibit, there is a presentation card that states that Alfred Nobel was of Jewish descent.”
        OH GOLLY WHAT A SURPRISE

        1. I must admit that the last time I was in Berlin, was many years ago when East Germany was still the DDR and under Soviet control. I did cross Checkpoint Charlie and spent the whole day and evening behind the Berlin wall (which was far more than a wall). Much of the East side was destroyed, dark and without electricity, a testament of the so called efficiency of communism. There were guard dogs, towers, barbed wire, police and soldiers brandishing machine guns, etc.

          When were you in Berlin? Did you tour the museum? I have visited the D.C. Holocaust Museum and spent a whole day at Dachau, which is a life changing experience. Have you been to a concentration camp? If not, you should try to go.

        2. LIGO fraud, eh? Is that part if the International Jewish Conspiracy™, Physics Subsection?

          1. Some scientific pursuits have been draining the US treasury with many false “discoveries” right before renewal of funds time.
            I quite understand you people are clueless aged idiots who can’t function except in the little boxes you’ve been assigned, and above you we have a personal brag, his ego must be really tarnished now.
            Shameful.
            How about the 50+ year takeover of theoretical particle physics. you know who did that. I do. String theory is utter garbage. Almost everyone in the field knows it. It continues, anyway.
            Name the jew, antisemite.
            You will FAIL.

  6. Funny isn’t it? The persecutors of Trump have been ritualisticly asserting that ” no one is above the law”, but American colleges have been violating the 14th amendment for 50 years without complaint from the bien pensent.

  7. Bottomline: SCOTUS decision is a huge ‘breath of fresh air’ for those who suffered through years of ‘reverse discrimination’ not only in Colleges, but in the Corporate World.. as Affirmative Action spilled over into everything and ran amuck re: how ‘in general’ non-Blacks (yes, experience includes Asians, Latinos, et al, too..) were treated vis-a-vis Blacks..It ran awry in so many ways, I could write a book full of live case examples year after year. the ‘system’ even went so far as to discriminate against Blacks who worked hard to make it through their own merits alone.. It’s about time Blind Justice woke up to see it is no longer 1960 and we can now level the playing field to colour-blind equal treatment…..

  8. Dear Prof Turley,

    If education is the quickest way out of any social ill, and I believe it is, then we all have something different in common.

    Lets call that knowledge, or the absence of ignorance. Unfortunately, ‘knowledge is a single point .. . but the ignorant have multiplied it.’ *Persian proverb

    It takes more than Martha Vineyards village to raise a child. In essence, individual ascent (proper education) is inseparable from collective ascent. I mean society .. . ‘in so far as he belongs to society, the individual transcends himself, both when he thinks and when he acts.’

    Creeds and schools in abeyance,
    Retiring back a while sufficed at what they are, but never
    … forgotten,
    I harbour for good or bad, I permit to speak at every hazard,
    Nature without check with original energy. ~ Walt Whitman

    *hire the over-qualified.

  10. To paraphrase Orwell: All minorities are equal, but some minorities are more equal than others.
    We need to openly admit that some minorities are privileged and some, like Asians and cisgender males of any ethnicity or race, are not.
    Every article talking about race-based admissions needs to make the distinction between privileged and unpriviliged minorities, however distasteful the use of that reality check is.

    1. Asians are HUGELY OVER REPRESENTED IN COLLEGE IVY ADMISSIONS….
      What you’ve done is listen to mainstream babbling idiots subverting the USA and duping you, since you never checked.

      ASIANS = 20% OF THE IVY LEAGUE WHILE 6% OF THE USA

      “some minorities are privileged and some, like Asians _____________ of any ethnicity or race, are not.” says you ogre

      STOP BEING STUPID LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON HERE ON THIS BLOG.

      aka : “an ASIAN who got such a high score with such a high IQ was replaced by the affirmative action quota and is suing for life ruinment !!” A MILLION DUNDERHEADS SCREAM IN RAGE

      Oh man…. 20 freaking percent repped

      6 percent pop

      MINORITY IS MAKING HUGE BANK ON THE DUMMIES OF THE WHITE RACE WHO HAVE BIG FAT MOUTHS AND NO BRAINS.

  11. Academia (like Sex) is completely over-rated.
    You don’t need it to be fruitful in Life.

    Salary/Money (Cash-Flow), Status, Security, Wealth, partnership, parenthood, and elementary family
    are all achieved on a daily basis world wide under a wide verity of conditions.

    Marketers are very good at selling you the idea that you need Academia for success.
    Truth is, Open Mind, a Curiosity, a Dedication, and Strife, Personal Discovery, …
    make a good bed for the seeds of Serendipity and a bit of Luck in your lifetime.

    Never give up on yourself. Your all you’ve got.

  12. Left unsaid is the fact that education within certain ethnic classes and socio-economic classes holds little priority due to a number of factors.

    In the Black community, social welfare programs so loved by the Left have greatly influenced the end of the nuclear family (traditional family) and the byproduct is children being quite unprepared for higher education.

    That the public schools so structured by Leftist policies, protected and promoted by Teachers Unions, and ignored by government are failing those very children especially in large urban areas long controlled by the Democrat Party.

    So what say we be intellectually honest here….the best way to promote diversity at the University level, Military Officer ranks, highly skilled professions……is to cure the problems afflicting the public school systems nationwide.

    That is the kind of “affirmative action” that is needed….the kind that addresses the root problem and not the symptoms.

    Now…start the stop watch and see how long it takes for those on the Left to use the standard tactic….attack the messenger and reject the facts….always claiming to know better than anyone on the right could possibly understand.

    1. Ralph Chappell,
      I mentioned public education, but you did a much better comment than I.
      Thank you.

    2. The left has to destroy the nuclear family to gain complete control. The government wants control over the children denying the parent their parental rights. Wilson, an icon of the left, wanted Americans to spy on each other, including children, to spy on their parents.

      1. The nuclear family? That no longer exists. It was once sustainable when one income was enough to keep a family. That’s no longer the case. Clinging to the past is not a solution.

        1. You wish to get rid of the nuclear family? You are crazy. That is not clinging to the past. That is clinging to basic human development.

          Who made the two income family a necessity? Democrats.

          1. The nuclear family does not exist. It’s no longer possible to have that ideal. It’s a fantasy from the past.

        2. Here is one of the reasons for both parents working.

          “Poll: Most Americans oppose Biden’s electric vehicle mandate”

        3. I was brought up in a nuclear family.
          So were my children.
          We had dinner, and still do to this day when the family is visiting, together.
          Our group of friends, we try to get together at least once a week for Sunday dinner.
          We are not in the past.
          We are here and now.

            1. Are you truly that stupid?
              Never mind. I answered my own question.

        4. I know six grand kids thriving in a nuclear family. Mom, Dan, home. BTW those parent all went to college, paid of their loans with no problem.

            1. Why is college not affordable today?

              What happened that caused college costs to massively outstrip the simple rate of inflation?

    3. Ralph, spot on. Why can’t blacks get into college on grades? (can not talk about a lower IQ) What is the difference from other minorities using the same public schools, working hard to attain the level of academic needed to advance. Asians are exceeding whites. They come here having to learn the language, and fit into a culture unknown to them. An examination of family might reveal solutions.
      As some one else noted here today. The Democrat programs giving cash to minorities have fragged the nuclear family. Students lacking family structure integrity, cannot perform. Kids showing up at the schoolhouse door not well rested, fed, and clean, are not going to succeed.

      One male one female, rearing children is the solution.

      I think it was Thomas Sowell that gave the simple key to blacks

      Go to school EVERYDAY
      Do not create a baby until you are married
      MEN, support the babies you create….all of them
      Go to college or learn a trade, EVERY DAY
      Do not create a baby until you are married and have full time employment.
      Got to Work EVERY DAY

      This is not a challenging path.

      ps. I think Bill Cosby told them to learn the Queens English.

  13. Leftwing administrators don’t use race quotas to improve the condition of minorities. Many of those minorities are forced to drop out of snob colleges anyway.

    Leftwing administrators use race quotas as an excuse to ETHNICALLY CLEANSE conservatives from their schools. They used DEI to run off conservative faculty, and they continue to apply these standards to student admissions.

    These liars claim conservative-leaning students and faculty are literally lizard brains. What an ugly and obvious lie, and they know it.

    This is really about liberal privilege: the march through the institutions to consolidate the power of the so-called “managerial class.” The last people we need making decisions for the rest of us are people who are easily brainwashed by quacks and deviants.

    2. Diogenes freaking out by invoking replacement theory paranoia? Not surprising.

      2. And, yet, as the good professor has pointed out on more than a few occasions, that is exactly what is happening.
        Facts and reality continue to be your greatest foe.

  14. Not off topic, just a sad observation of the leftist members of the Court: Not one of the 3 liberals managed to vote according to the Constitution on this terms major cases. Even the obvious student loan case couldn’t budge the “little 3” from their appointed rounds. We had Nancy Pelosi and even Joe Biden state previously that the president can’t waive the loans away without congressional action and yet the “little 3” disagreed with their past arguments in favor of their latest weak attempt at arguing for the impossible. This is a disgrace.

    I want to drag our media into this point as well by pointing out that NOT ONE “reporter” asked Biden, while he was demagoguing the issue, why he himself said it was unconstitutional in prior comments. Do you think a Republican would have been asked about the obvious hypocrisy and flip flopping? Does anyone think that a conservative would not have been pilloried in a press conference with proper and common sense follow-ups.

    How can we win, the country and conservatives, when the Democrats are shameless and the media is ignorant and in the tank for them?

  15. “Minority” means just that, minority. The current black population in the United States is roughly 13%. Should the black population at Harvard, for example, be more than 13%? Asians account for about 6%. Latino is a catch-all term, not a race. Many Latinos are actually white, descendants of people from Spain and Portugal, while some are Mestizo. A person with a white mother and a “Latino” father may identify as Latino because they have a Hispanic last name while one who is the opposite may identify otherwise. In short, it’s all relative.

  16. After decades of affirmative action college admissions, shouldn’t there be adequate minority legacies?

    1. Clemson Jews Are Proud of Tigers as College Football’s Big Game Looms
      forward.com
      https://forward.com › culture › clemson-jews-are-proud-…
      Search for: How many Jews are at Clemson?
      How many Jews are at Cornell University?
      Jewish student populations at Harvard, Yale and Cornell were estimated to be between 20 and 25 percent, while those at Dartmouth, Princeton and Brown hovered between 13 and 20 percent.May 8, 2023

      HARVARD
      , and Asian American. Asian American students occupy approximately 22% of the student population, followed by African Americans at 14%, Latinos, and Hispanics at 12%, and Native Americans at 2%.
      LOL Asians are not underrepresented… hahahahahahahahah

      1. So while the goofballs were sucking up the MSM ” a smart asian got replaced by an affirmative action pick” – YOUR COLLEGES HAVE HAD ASIANS AT 20-22% ENROLLMENT.

        While the whitey whiners babbled, the Asians were in fact way over represented in your elite schools.
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
        We just don’t have smart people…. (yours truly excluded)

        Oh boy. So jews, way to many, asains, way too many, blacks and latinos or hispanics way to propped up …
        GUESS WHO IS THE ONLY GROUP CRUSHED UNDER GUYZ ? CAN YOUR LIPS FORM THE WORDS ?

        1. Here’s a link – not adds to 100% does not apply, they omit the semite jew LOL Not that they have the power to make that happen, no, they are only “the smartest” “the most productive” “the highest IQ” according to the supremacists here and deserve thousands of percent of over representation, according to the jewish supremacists here.

          They give an outline of the big 8, so picking apart their pablum is easy
          https://www.ivycoach.com/2022-ivy-league-admissions-statistics/

        2. I read somewhere that the dinosaurs weren’t really killed by an asteroid. It was actually the Jews that did it. Can you confirm that?

          1. It was the asians, but they have been under represented by minority demoncrats calling the Affirmative Action shots, so you only thought the other severely oppressed group.
            22 percent 6 percent pop A
            16 percent in 2 percent pop J
            35 percent in 70 percent pop W

            I predict your idiotic enemies in politics will do whatever they want, because you fruitcakes can’t even check basic stats like Reagan warned you to do.

    2. Coming soon to America….no later than late summer/early fall of 2024.

  18. Public opinion, in this case, was solidly behind eliminating AA, in higher education. Nine states, Including California, already prohibited it. Asian enrollment will increase, no mystery why.

    1. Asian enrollment is already way over the top. 20-22% you think they are 22% of the USA?
      You have been sucking down propaganda.

  19. Professor Turley left out the court exemption for military academies. Apparently military academies still require racial diversity for the same reason higher education institutions don’t. Their contrary explanations show how why they are wrong.

    1. Do they? Military academies draw students who are nominated by their Senator and Congressman, not by application. There are a few other sources – from the ranks, children of Medal of Honor winners, etc. but the vast majority are political appointments.

      1. That doesn’t change the fact that Military academies still used affirmative action to ensure diversity. It’s no different than higher education.

  20. There’s something horrendously wrong about using an amendment which guarantees equality to force oppressive law on one segment of society.

    1. It’s absurd and illogical for the 3 liberal judges to dissent, and for POTUS to condemn, SCOTUS’ majority decision, which is constitutionally based, to stop discriminating on race by advocating discrimination based on race. With politically driven justices who choose to disregard the constitution and a mentally deficient POTUS that continues to use divisive political statements and accusations to undermine our institutions and democracy, is it any wonder that most Americans think our democracy is in danger.

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