“Domestic Abuse is a Severe Crime”: British Parents Could Be Prosecuted for Refusing to Pay for Transgender Treatments

As the debate rages in the United States over parental notification and authority in cases involving transgender children, the United Kingdom is embroiled in a controversy over a law that would not only limit parental authority in such cases but affirmatively require parents to pay for such transitioning.  Under the interpretation put forward by police, parents who refuse to use the alternative pronouns for their children or refuse to pay for their transitioning could be criminally prosecuted.

According to the UK’s Code for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), abusive conduct now includes “withholding money for transitioning [and] refusing to use their preferred name or pronoun.”  So a parent with familial or religious objections to the transitioning of a child would be required under the law to fund operations or treatments.

According to the guidance material, this is not even “an exhausted list,” but some of the first “examples” of potentially criminal conduct that comes to mind.

The guideline would suggest that parents with deep-seated religious convictions against transgender status would either have to fund an operation that they consider immoral or face arrest for failing to do so.

To potentially prosecute a parent for refusing to use an adopted pronoun of their child is chilling and wrong. Nevertheless, a CPS spokesperson doubled down with a comment to Fox News that “domestic abuse is a severe crime and leaves victims with a lasting impact . . . This assists prosecutors to ensure that any victim, regardless of who they are, can get justice for the abuse they have faced.”

This follows the erosion of free speech and religious rights in Britain, including English courts upholding the criminalization “toxic ideologies.”

It was Sir Edward Coke in The Institutes of the Laws of England, 1628 who declared “For a man’s house is his castle, et domus sua cuique est tutissimum refugium [and each man’s home is his safest refuge].” William Pitt, the first Earl of Chatham later added:

“The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the crown. It may be frail – its roof may shake – the wind may blow through it – the storm may enter – the rain may enter – but the King of England cannot enter.”

That no longer appears the case when misusing pronouns or failing to write a check for a child’s transitioning, which will now be treated as the same as physical child abuse.  As the definition of abuse is broadened, the state derives greater control and direction over family affairs and relations. Moreover, leaving enforcement to the discretion of police in this “nonexhaustive” list only further undermines this long-standing protection over internal family matters. The question is what the limiting principle will be as the state defines a wider array of conduct to be child abuse. The default assumption of Pitt appears to have flipped in the United Kingdom.

180 thoughts on ““Domestic Abuse is a Severe Crime”: British Parents Could Be Prosecuted for Refusing to Pay for Transgender Treatments”

  1. British parents could be prosecuted, or lose custody of their children, for refusing to chemically and surgically castrate their boys or have their girls sterilized and their healthy breasts surgically removed. The next logical step will be punishing parents who don’t affirm that their children who claim they are really dogs, cats, horses, unicorns, dragons, or elves are really so. Species dysphoria, including Therians and Otherkin or quite en vogue.

    This is the totalitarianism of the Left run amuck.

    1. It’s fascism. Control of all aspects of life is the endgame. One of Mussolini’s first big initiatives was to control education. Hitler followed suit.

    2. Karen s, that is certainly not true. What Turley implies is pure fabrication. That’s not what the UK guidance says at all.

    3. Uh, Karen S: this is in BRITAIN, not here. How does this particular British court ruling somehow transfer to “Left totalitarianism”? If we in the US have “totalitarianism”, it’s in places like Florida, where books and abortions are banned, where no teaching about slaveryl or race relations is allowed, where LGBTQ people, and businesses, such as Disney that support LGBTQ people, are targeted. It’s where a Republican-led state government does everything thinkable to place barriers to voting by non-Republicans.


    If you allow the enemy, communists, miscreants, illegal aliens, parasites, dependents, freaks and perverts to vote,

    the enemy, communists, miscreants, illegal aliens, parasites, dependents, freaks and perverts will takeover.

    Turnout in America was 11.6% by design in 1788.

    Constitutional voting criteria, State-by-State in 1788, were generally male, European, 21, 50 lbs. Sterling, or 50 acres.

    The Naturalization Act of 1790 became a preliminary de facto vote restriction.


    “A one man, one vote democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’ greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years.”

    – Anonymous

    “the people are nothing but a great beast…

    I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”

    – Alexander Hamilton

    “The true reason (says Blackstone) of requiring any qualification, with regard to property in voters, is to exclude such persons, as are in so mean a situation, that they are esteemed to have no will of their own.”

    “If it were probable that every man would give his vote freely, and without influence of any kind, then, upon the true theory and genuine principles of liberty, every member of the community, however poor, should have a vote… But since that can hardly be expected, in persons of indigent fortunes, or such as are under the immediate dominion of others, all popular states have been obliged to establish certain qualifications, whereby, some who are suspected to have no will of their own, are excluded from voting; in order to set other individuals, whose wills may be supposed independent, more thoroughly upon a level with each other.”

    – Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, 1775

    “[We gave you] a [restricted-vote] republic, if you can keep it.”

    – Ben Franklin, 1787

    You lost your resolve.

    Your retainers ascended.

    You couldn’t.

  3. Jonathan: So what else did you miss in the news this week? Actually, plenty. There has been a flurry of activity by Jack Smith in connection with Jan. 6. He has been busy interviewing a number of key witnesses about how DJT tried to overturn the results of the 2020 election to stay in power. Judy Giuliani testified in a proffer session about his role–trying to cut a deal to keep from being indicted. It now appears Jack Smith is focusing on the wild 6 hour shouting match in the WH on Dec. 18 between “Team Normal” (WH counsels) and “Team Abnormal” composed of Giuliani, Sidney Powell ( who bizarrely claimed the Venezuelan government had changed votes from Trump to Biden), crazy Ret. Gen. Mike Flynn and Pat Byrne whose only claim to fame is that he is the CEO of “overstock.com”. This crazy cast of Watergate plumbers on steroids was telling DJT to declare marshal law, seize the voting machines, appoint Powell as “special counsel” and replace the Biden electors with a slate of fake Trump electors in certain swing states. It was later that same night that DJT put out a call to his supporters to show up on Jan.6 because “it will be wild!”.

    It is this meeting that Jack Smith is focusing on because it establishes DJT’s state of mind–his “mens rea”–his conscious criminal intent to violate the law. DJT’s own statements and witness testimony will supply the evidence of the former president’s criminal intent. Jack Smith only needs “probable cause” to get indictments but he needs proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict DJT and others involved in the conspiracy. I now think Smith has the evidence he needs. Many former prosecutors think Smith may be handing down indictments in the next week or two. It has been a long time coming but finally we may see accountability for those who tried take away our Democracy.

      1. Problem: General Secretary, Chairman CMC, President, Dictator For Life and Psychotic Megalomaniac, Xi Jinping, released “China Flu, 2019” to be pervasively effective six months before Real President Donald J. Trump would have been reelected.

        By all parameters, the Communist People’s Liberation Army should be in Taiwan by now, at a minimum, before the idiotic weakling and psychophant [sic] to the Chicoms, Joke Buydem, leaves office.

        Whatever will Head Psycho Xi do this time?

    1. Dennis, have found the pony in that pile of horse poo?

      I’ve heard this all weekend, but not once was a crime identified.

  4. I’m not sure who is a greater fool? The fools of the left thinking that a child has rational thought about their future, or the fools of the right thinking that this shall pass without deliberate counter interference (Laissez-faire). The egg must be broken with stern consequences for those proposing this insane movement.

    I’ll quote Malcolm X in part and changing a few words from his thoughts: “I only cite these things to show you that in (the west) the history of white liberal has been nothing, but a series of trickery designed to make us think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white liberal. The only way that our problems will be solved is when the (passive conservative) wakes up, (has a backbone), stands on his own two feet, stops begging the white liberal and takes immediate steps to (remove the foolish liberal, through force if necessary) (and do) for (themselves) the things that (they) have been waiting on the white liberal to do for (them)”.

    The foolish left has snowed many ninnies to believe their Utopian Dream is a path to wholesome and righteousness for society and those that oppose their beliefs are mongrels of the highest order. Recently in Seattle a poll respondent [I will not name her here] suggested defunding the police,” … then giving money back but only in the areas where it is needed”. Further quoting her: “I’m a 50-year-old white woman and I make more than $250,000 a year, and I don’t trust them, so I don’t see how a poor person of color could do so.”

    The age of the Imbecile must be put down like a rabid dog before the bite becomes infected without a remedy. I dread the thought that the leftist fools should gain a foot hold that cannot be broken, and freedom will become a dream of bygone years.


    1. One last thought: as Ken Kesey wrote in ‘Sometimes a Great Notion’, “NEVER GIVE AN INCH” should become the moniker of the Conservative!

  5. This seems preposterous on its face, and it’s hard to understand how a majority of British parents would stand for the state taking over as head of their households in relation to such a delicate matter. Was Brave New World not assigned reading in British schools as it was here in America?

    My common-sense instinct (which is less and less applicable these days) is telling me that there MUST be more to this issue than is mentioned in this article — unless Great Britain has lost its mind and the British no longer have anything in common with their American cousins.

    But this article references the supposed law in the abstract, without application to any specific case which might aid understanding, and I imagine that it won’t be long (maybe just days) before there is further clarification as a result of specific case application of this law — so I’ll hold off on being outraged for the time being, as there are just too many issues in need of my dwindling arsonal of outrage.

    1. MR. De Minimus Is this too abstract? “According to the UK’s Code for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), abusive conduct now includes “withholding money for transitioning [and] refusing to use their preferred name or pronoun.” So a parent with familial or religious objections to the transitioning of a child would be required under the law to fund operations or treatments.” “Could be criminally prosecuted”.

        1. “[T]hat’s too abstract . . .”

          Those with the ability to think can evaluate an abstraction as good or evil. This “abstract” law is evil.

      1. Exactly, the professor is implying something that is not stated in the guidance. He’s implying parents are being forced to pay for the care and use the preferred pronouns. None of That is true. He’s providing fodder for his readers so they have something to complain about and accuse the left of something.

        1. “[T]he professor is implying something that is not stated in the guidance.”


          JT’s analysis is dead-on accurate.

          And, yes, I did read the relevant sections. And, no, I have no interest in debating those who are pathologically deceptive. Or those who are motivated by a desire to smear JT.

          1. You did the same thing Turley did. Linked to the general guidance page without pointing out exactly where he took that “requirement” from. Sam can’t point it out and neither can you. Because it isn’t on there.

            That’s the problem.

        2. He’s implying parents are being forced to pay for the care and use the preferred pronouns.

          No, he’s stating that the police interpretation of the statute says that parents MAY BE PROSECUTED for not taking these actions. There is a difference between being FORCED TO DO something and being prosecuted for not doing it – and still another difference between PERHAPS being protected and DEFINITELY being prosecuted.

          It would clearly be totalitarian and wrong if parents were forced to pay for their child’s transition – every disgruntled teenager could blackmail parents into paying for prescribed hormones (whether or not the kids actually took them), and then change their minds about “transitioning” before surgery. It would clearly be totalitarian (and in my opinion just as wrong, in this case because the child is a child and incapable of mature decision-making on this point as many others) to prosecute parents for not paying for their child’s transition.

          It is, however, Orwellian to threaten prosecution without a law on the books that comes right out and makes such parental action or inaction a crime. Yes, there is prosecutorial discretion – but in the past, we could understand that that was to draw distinctions between, say, the case of parents’ locking a child in the basement at all times except for school, and the case of parents’ grounding a child for a week or a month for the child’s wrongdoing. Now? Well, consider the examples of prosecutorial discretion we’ve seen over the past several years, and ask yourself whether we can still have the same understanding.

          Yes. I know it’s another country. But leftists act the same everywhere and spear to have the same agenda – it’s just a matter of degree. They’ll all catch up to Cuba eventually.

      2. Please review Annex D of the Guidance and determine for yourself who the liar is here. Clearly stated as items constituting domestic abuse on a nonexhaustive list are withholding funds for transitioning and misuse of preferred pronouns. The threat of prosecution is indisputable and parents who do not comply are at risk. Jonathan Turley’s reputation remains intact.

        1. Frisco, thank you. Finally someone who did their due diligence.

          However, that still does not relieve Turley from his lying.

          “According to the UK’s Code for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), abusive conduct now includes “withholding money for transitioning [and] refusing to use their preferred name or pronoun.” So a parent with familial or religious objections to the transitioning of a child would be required under the law to fund operations or treatments.”

          The law does not require a parent with familial or religious objection to pay as a requirement by law. That does not exist. That’s categorically false.

          Professor Turley relies on the absence of context to imply parents are required by law to pay for transition surgery or use their preferred pronouns. That’s is a lie.

          “Trans and non-binary people can experience domestic abuse regardless of the gender identity of either person. Trans and non-binary people can be subjected to unique forms of domestic abuse linked to their trans or non-binary identity, including some that mirror those of LGB communities. Therefore, this segment should be read in conjunction with sexual orientation. Although not an exhausted list, some examples of how trans and non-binary people may be abused by intimate partners or family members…”

          The list of abuses in the guidance,

          “Using the process of transitioning or “coming out” as a form of control
          Threatening or sharing pre-transition images
          Body shaming or criticising the victim for not being “a real man/woman” if they have not undergone reassignment surgery
          Minimise or disregard the abuse by blaming the victim’s “perception” on their hormones
          Physically assaulting surgically or medically altered body parts
          Withholding money for transitioning
          Targeting sexual or emotional abuse towards parts of the body they are ashamed of or forcing the victim to expose scars
          Refusing to use their preferred name or pronoun
          Destroying medication or clothes”

          These are abusive tactics. Not requirements.

          Nowhere does it say parents are required to pay or state their preferred pronoun.

          Withholding money is not requiring they pay. Professor Turley’s dishonesty is still intact.

          Emotional abuse is just as serious as physical abuse. This guidance specifically points out that these issues should be determined in a case by case basis and a variety of factors. It’s not what the professor falsely implies.

    2. “…unless Great Britain has lost its mind and the British no longer have anything in common with their American cousins.” Actually, if it is true that the whole of Great Britain has lost its mind, then they will have actually increased what they have in common with their American cousins.

      1. Perhaps generally, but not as concerns parents having dominion over their minor children in relation to sex changes.

        In the US, for the most part parents are not willingly turning their children over to the state for decisions as fundamental as sex change. There are some willing to go along with this idea (there are always some willing to go along with any idea), but I’m pretty sure the vast majority of parents have stood, and will continue to stand, against the state inserting itself into such decisions concerning minor children, and the younger the child, the more vociferous will be parental opposition.

        Thus my reference to Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. This article appears to suggest that Great Britain is approaching that Brave New World, but I believe their American cousins are still substantially resistant to the concept. Perhaps British school children and American school children have read the same book but walked away with different interpretations of what the story is all about.

        1. You may have noticed, though, that some states, such as California, have enacted laws to protect people who kidnap children from other states to facilitate those children’s gender transition. Parents may not be willing, but the state is zealous to “protect” children by precluding their development into functioning adults via tinkering with their bodily chemistry and slicing and dicing their organs.

          1. Yes, I’m familiar with some of what’s happening. But I believe it’s still a substantial minority of Americans that are willingly allowing the government to insert itself into life-changing decisions regarding minor children.

            If I had to guess — and it’s ONLY a guess — I’d bet that less than 1/4 of Americans are in favor of allowing the government to insert itself into such life-changing decisions concerning minors. In places like California or Oregon, it’s possible that there is greater support for removing parental dominion over such decisions affecting minor children, but the USA is much larger than the west coast.

            1. I’ll bet it’s not even 20% of rank and file Americans. Still, concerted efforts by well-placed state actors and teachers’ unions endorsing the encouragement of children as young as 4 to “identify” as ANYTHING are truly, well – dare I say it? – deplorable.

              1. “well-placed state actors and teachers’ unions” AND media morons (CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, etc.)

            2. Ralph, the problem now, Judges are issuing injunctions against State laws preventing gender surgeries, and puberty blockers. Like Roe, subverting the will of the people.

              1. Laws preventing parents from making medical decisions for war is best for their children is unconstitutional. Republicans are all for parental rights. Now they want government to interfere with parental rights because they don’t like their personal choices regarding their children.

  6. The woke mind virus is winning. Stateside, Portland just disapproved terms like “pregnant woman” (use “pregnant person”), “breast feeding” (use “chest feeding”), “citizen,” and “feminine products” (use “menstrual products”). They want to exclude all references to the female sex – in the name of “inclusion” of course.


    This is how a society dies. If someone has a salad with many delicious looking vegetables and other toppings, Portland will require it to be put in a blender so that it comes out as monochromatic mush, with the same color and texture through and through. A tomato might identify as a cucumber, so that would only be fair. If someone finds a beautiful mosaic work of art, Portland will require that the average color of the tiles be determined, and all of them repainted to that color. A red tile might identify as a yellow tile, so that would only be fair.

    1. “If someone has a salad with many delicious looking vegetables and other toppings, Portland will require it to be put in a blender so that it comes out as monochromatic mush, with the same color and texture through and through.”

      I believe I’ve read (long ago) that the concept you’re addressing, when applied to human genetics concerning the various ediitions of homo sapiens currently in existence being blended together via interbreeding, results in the average citizen of Mexico, in size, color, and facial features. This is something I read about MANY years ago, so if my memory is mistaken, or if the science has subsquently changed and anyone knows more about this (please, no speculation), please reply with further information. Otherwise I will continue to assume that we are all on an evolutionary course toward that end, unless something intervenes with natural evolution via interbreeding.

  7. Who are we to look down on the UK’s handling of the transgender issue, considering the state of affairs in the United States? How many of us say we are concerned but vote for people who do nothing?

    1. If the town next to you started murdering the homeless, would you say “who are we to look down on that town for murdering people just because they’re homeless”?

      The creeping militancy of the transgender movement means we are not far behind the UK.

      1. This & the many other issues are all just pieces the whole, the war by the psychopathy billionaires-UN that want us pesky humans “resouces” dead or sterilized.


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      2. If my town and the town next door were both murdering the homeless, I would certainly say “who are we to look down on the town next door for murdering the homeless”?

        Both the US and the UK are encouraging mentally ill children who have been led to believe they are in the wrong bodies to be permanently injured and, in some cases, driven to suicide.

        For the US to get all high and mighty about the evil UK, which is only half a step ahead of us on the road to damnation, is a joke.

  8. Years from now when the minors who were subjected to chemicals and reassignment surgeries suddenly say “what did they do to me”?
    How large will the legal awards be and who will pay?

      1. Cindy, I used to think the same thing until I reflected a bit further. Everything for which the Left advocates leads to death, e.g. abortion, euthanasia, eugenics, one-child policy, CRT, BLM, ANTIFA, “peaceful protests”, child bodily mutilation, irreversibly altering the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis that governs endogenous hormonal functioning, Marxism, etc. Thus it follows that the Brits (and American Left) requiring forced hormonal tx in individuals before adolescence and gender bodily mutilation, is accelerating their extinction….literally. Evolutionary forces were created by both inherited genetics and natural selection. Disregarding these leads to extinction.

        They will not be on the planet in a few generations, so its a win-win situation.

        As someone noted previously, a parent celebrating their child identifying as being of the opposite sex, days after the child identified as a dinosaur, does evolution a favor by removing them from the gene pool. Mendelian inheritance applies. They can not reproduce.

        So let them disregard genetics, physiology, biochemistry, molecular biology and conservation of evolutionary traits. It could also be seen as a two-for: they wont be trolling this forum sooner than we expect


        1. Estovir: nothing you said is factually true. The “Left” advocates for CHOICE up to the age of fetal viability–something with which the overwhelming majority of Americans agree. There is absolutely NO “Left” policy for “euthanasia, eugenics, one-child, CRT, BLM or “antifa”. There is no “Left policy” for “child bodily mutilation”, either. It is illegal in the US to perform gender-affirming surgery on minors, and puberty-blockers are reversible. The “Left” is not “Marxist”, either, (you and your hero don’t even know what “Marxism” is–other than it sounds “bad) and nowhere is any person being “forced” to undergo hormonal treatment before adolescence. How could you “force” someone to do this anyway–hold them down and shoot them up with hormones? I don’t know who the “them” are that are “disregarding genetics, physiology, biochemistry, molecular biology and conservation of evolutionary traits”. Is this in the DNC platform, some slop you absorbed from alt-right media or did you make it up on your own?

      2. I Cindy 🙂

        I seen one of your post a week or two back & I wanted to share this link that we can all use as a possible source for 2nd opinions on doctors, treatments, meds, etc..

        Just use it’s onsite search feature for the subject.

        I’ll post another related site when I remember where I put.

        Maybe they’ll help Estovir’s re-education away from the small circle the AMA/NIH makes them play in. lol;)


        1. Thank you, Oky.!…..good to hear from you.
          The really disturbing one thought there are many, is the plan to block the sun!

          1. “The really disturbing one thought there are many, is the plan to block the sun! ”

            What more prima facie evidence do any of us need that those people are bat crap crazy! lol:)

            But the answer is easy, all we need to do is use all this tech to block the sun on all their farm land & where ever Bill Gates & the rest of those creeps go through out their days. Operation Dark Cloud! LOL;) It just follows them around.

            A few weeks back I seen NOAA admits involvement with the criminal activity of weather modification. I went to their web site & typed in what the guy said, NOAA Chem Trails & their it was, the Fed agency admits to spraying us/US with known harmful chemicals & undisclosed chemicals w/other such toxins

            20-30 years ago damn few of any of us could see the mess the billionaires/leaders have made of most everything. Safe people like RFK jr.

            Yet the flowers are still blooming as is the garden.

  9. Also out of the UK, Bonus Holes.. So not only is the PIC now openly pushing to traffic children away from their parents, they are creating language they will use to market these mutilated children in their sex slave trade.

  10. Only rules for prosecutors and not a law. But since this is the CPS and the UK government, they can break you financially even if you end up with a “Win”. If not removed immediately I would pack up and leave. California and Minnesota are trying to develop similar laws.
    Sorry to be gone for the week. Was in yellowstone for a week and had a close encounter with a bull Bison on the outside of my car. So big the car ahead could not be seen. Definitely a him. No they/them . All Bull. Did not care about outside world for the week. Such Bliss.

  11. I have no skin in this game. I have four adult children who were educated prior to the onslaught of the current degeneracy. Therefore I can observe all these proceedings with an amused amazement, just to see how far it all will go. Each time I think it has hit bottom, another whole is dug.

    I find it mystifying that the Left continues to find new ways to eliminate itself. Promoting lifestyles that seem to ensure fewer Leftists in the future is not a viable business plan. And now it hysterically defends the right to neuter those fortunate children who escape the womb with their lives. For such reasons, the unending supply of new, imported voters is critical to their success.

    And yet the Left’s frenzied embrace of these preposterous new notions has already begun to disenchant the very immigrants they rely upon for their survival, as well as former stalwarts: old-school feminists are realizing that the Right may be grudging in it’s acceptance of them, but at least it’s not trying to replace them with smirking, mocking counterfeits. And classic Liberals already see that the censorship/suppresion regime is insupportable.

    The Left is slowly but surely “Bud-Lighting” itself, and completely unaware that it is happening.

    1. Cionnath—–such a great comment.
      The Left was always, and certainly is now, defined by the term “more is never enough”. Unfortunately, and tragically, that now includes children.

    2. Cionnath—I hope your prediction is correct—it certainly seems plausible. However, unless you have no grandchildren and don’t expect to have any, I don’t see how you can say you don’t have any skin in the game. With four HS & college age grandchildren, I definitely feel a vested interest in the future, as I can’t bear the thought of them trying to maintain their sanity, let alone trying to live productive, happy lives, in what could be a clown show of a world run by the insane.

  12. It’s no coincidence that the pedo-industrial-complex (PIC) is openly grooming governments worldwide, at the same time Angel Studios was working on a project to blow wide open the child sex trafficking industry.

    Now that the Sound of Freedom has been released, we have a real-world cause to blow up the PIC. This will show people worldwide the evil coming for their children has many forms.

  13. Jonathan: Frequently you turn to Great Britain when you want to make a point–and then misstate the law. But as Oliver Reeder, a UK citizen, has pointed out in his comment a possible prosecution for refusing to pay for transgender treatments is not the law but simply CPS guidance. Any prosecution would no doubt get the attention of Parliament. But you think CPS guidance violates the old English principle that a “man’s house is his castle” and “further undermines this long-standing protection over internal family matters”.

    The problem is that in discussing British affairs you ignore what is going on right under your nose. FL GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a law back in May putting new restrictions on gender affirming treatments for minors, drag shows, bathroom usage and which pronouns that can be used in schools. Under the transgender portion of the legislation (SB254) it prohibits minors from receiving gender-affirming treatment and a court can remove a minor from the home because such treatment is deemed “child abuse”. The law also provides for criminal penalties for health care providers who give gender-affirming care.

    So from doctors’ offices, school classrooms and what goes on inside the home, DeSantis is demonizing the LGBTQ+ community. It’s an essential part of his right-wing presidential campaign. Removing a minor from his/her home simply because parents are providing gender-affirming care is a clear violation of the English principle that a “man’s house is his castle” and what you call the “long-standing protection over internal family matters”–not to mention core US constitutional principles–like the right to privacy and equal protection. When it comes to core British and American legal principles Florida is just not on your radar. Why is that?

    1. “Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a law back in May putting new restrictions on gender affirming treatments for minors . . .”

      Good for him.

      Whether done by a Muslim with a shard of glass or a Western “doctor” with a scalpel — the genital mutilation of a *child* is barbaric. Any parent who approves it should lose custody. Any “doctor” who performs it should lose his license and his freedom.

    2. Dennis wants to make it illegal to not allow a parent to bring a child to a strip club.

      -The left will not allow a student to get an aspirin, but will allow a child to get an abortion.
      -The left wants to ease penalties on 17 year olds that murder or rape because their brains aren’t developed, but wants to force parents to cut of their genitals when they think they are the “wrong sex”.
      -The left wants to allow children to be shipped to CA in order to get mutilated on a whim, but won’t let them buy a pack of smokes until they are 21.
      -The left forces Target to not sell Abigail Shirer’s books and tries to eliminate Mark Levin’s book from their shelves, but they scream “book banning” when a school removes a book on male to male oral sex from the library of a elementary school.
      -The left, under Governor Newsome, forces businesses to close, forces the arrest of people AT THE BEACH, bulldozes playgrounds, bans visitors to hospitals, tries to ban To Kill a Mockingbird…and then flies to Florida to screech that the governor there is a fascist.
      -The left make Jim Acosta famous for being a complete AH and a rude bore at WH briefings and yet the press yells at the reporter from Africa trying to ask a question as they call him rude.
      -The left said Trump using money to build the Wall was unconstitutional, while yelling at the Court for not allowing Biden to spend 100 times as much on the student loan fiasco.
      -The left calls Larry Elder a white supremacists, Asians white supremacists, Hispanics white supremacists and they call trabs men “birthing people”.

    3. Under the transgender portion of the legislation (SB254) it prohibits minors from receiving gender-affirming treatment and a court can remove a minor from the home because such treatment is deemed “child abuse”. The law also provides for criminal penalties for health care providers who give gender-affirming care.

      Absolutely. Watchful waiting has little downside (don’t talk to me about “dead son or live daughter” – no study backs it up, as we all know. The only downside is that a full transition will be less convincing when it occurs after puberty – but a “full transition” is, as we also all know, extreme cosmetic surgery and lifelong drug therapy, not metamorphosis, so when you date a woman who has to insert a vaginal dilator every night in order for her vagina not to collapse and grow back together, that’s pretty unconvincing too) and a huge upside, in that the possibly trans person will be able to transition in a more mature mental state – OR MAY JUST END UP GAY, like most children who suffer gender dysphoria. What do you have against gay people?

      Puberty blockers are SOMETIMES reversible, btw.

  14. OK, we can see the advanced state of the mental disease afflicting Europe at this time and spreading to North America like a plague. We must disinfect our nation and culture quickly before it does as much damage to us as the black death did to Europe 700+ years ago.

  15. Reminds me of why the Pilgrims left England – religious persecution. We should open our doors wide for those fleeing this oppression.

  16. Meanwhile in other parts of LaLa Land and virtue signaling there was also the weird 4th of July tweet from Ben and Jerry’s.

    Don Stevens, chief of the Nulhegan Band of The Coosuk Abenaki Nation, which is descended from the nation that once controlled parts of modern-day Vermont said that he was interested in Ben and Jerry’s offer to return stolen indigenous land, especially where their headquarters now sits. He stated that he has not yet been approached nor any members of the tribe.


  17. This is bizarre stuff. Sweden and Finland are dramatically backing off transgender surgery for minors, but leftwing witchdoctors in the Anglosphere are pushing it. This is the most insane social experiment since Margaret Sanger pushed eugenics.

    It’s also true that Sweden avoided many of the big mistakes the CDC made during the pandemic. MSNBC is still pushing masks and vaccines for children–with the CDC’s blessing.

    And Sweden is getting tough on immigration while Biden is still flooding the country.

    All this just proves what I’ve said before: American liberals are far, far stupider and more destructive than the Swedish people. The Swedes have made some terrible mistakes, but the thing that I have always admired about them is that they learn from their mistakes. The Democrat Party and its Deep-State numb nuts are just a bunch of freaks and juveniles by comparison.

    Woe is America. I hope this nightmare ends.

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