Navy Gets the Nod: President Biden Acknowledges the Existence of his Fifth Granddaughter

Official White House Photo by Adam Schultz

For her entire life, Navy Joan Roberts has been “she who must not be named.” There is no evidence that her father has ever visited her, let alone held her.  Her grandparents repeatedly denied her existence and said that they had only “four granddaughters.” They even gave their dogs stockings at Christmas rather than Navy, who never even bit one let alone a score of Secret Service agents. As even Democrats began to voice their own shock at the cruelty of the First Couple shunning this child, the Bidens finally relented and recognized her existence, but only barely so.  They now admit that they have seven grandchildren and five (not four) granddaughters.

Pressed by Fox News, the White House issued this statement:

“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward. This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”

Even for those of us who merely followed this saga from the beginning, the statement was maddening and frankly insulting. It suggested that there was some reason, until now, that prevented the Bidens from acknowledging the existence of their fifth granddaughter. The suggestion was pushed further by CNN, which cited the resolution of  “a protracted and bitter court proceeding over child support.” That is false. There was no legal, or even tactical, reason for the refusal of the First Couple to acknowledge Navy for four years.

Navy and her mother sought that recognition and the Bidens refused. How was that in the “best interests” of this child? Were they fostering a relationship when they gave the German Shepherds stockings at Christmas but not their grandchild?

Moreover, Hunter has not been “working together” with Lunden for the best interests of his daughter. He has been a callous cad throughout this process, consistently putting his own interests ahead of his child.

Hunter refused to admit that he was Navy’s father for years until forced to accept the results of a court-ordered DNA test. He then fought child support and even her use of the name Biden. He was threatened repeatedly with contempt of court over his obstruction in the litigation in Arkansas. The statement that he has been working together with Lunden is insulting to anyone who has followed these court proceedings, let alone their granddaughter.

In June, Hunter settled the Arkansas child support case on the condition that Lunden agreed to withdraw her request to change their child’s last name to “Biden.”

Washington is a hard town. I have lived and worked here for decades and I am still amazed by the cold calculations of many in this city. Long-standing values and associations are routinely jettisoned for personal advantage. Here the moral strictures of the rest of the nation are flipped; vice is a virtue and integrity is a weakness.

Yet, even in this place of utter personal corruption, the Bidens shocked the local population. It was not their millions in influence peddling. The Bidens are standouts but hardly unique in that form of corruption. It is not the President’s obvious lies about his knowledge and ties to his son’s foreign dealings. Truth is as relative in Washington as loyalty in this city. However, few have the stomach for how the Bidens treated this little girl. The Bidens spent more time fretting over the “pressure” of the White House on Major and Commander than they did the emotional impact on a four-year-old child who was prevented from even calling herself a Biden.

So what changed after four years to compel this passing recognition in a press statement? It was not the litigation. There was never any legal reason not to recognize their granddaughter since it was confirmed by DNA and court order. It was not any sudden request of the child or her mother. They have been asking for years for such recognition.

It was more likely the disgust expressed even by Democrats that this is simply wrong. The President is about to head out on the campaign trail and had no answer to that objection. In other words, for the First Couple, it is a political not a family matter. If it were the latter, they would have done the decent thing years ago.

Of course, the President cannot go into his loving account of how his granddaughter is “a talker” and playful (like his German Shepherd) because he has never bothered to meet her.

That is now a matter for this little girl to contemplate as she gets older. However, whatever the impetus of the sudden recognition of Navy’s existence, it was not any legal cause. The First Couple was free to do the decent thing at any time over the last four years. They simply did not find it in their “best interest” to do so.

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154 thoughts on “Navy Gets the Nod: President Biden Acknowledges the Existence of his Fifth Granddaughter”

  1. I want to congratulate President Biden and his family in the birth of their seventh grandchild, four year old Navy Joan, this Saturday.
    It must have been a terrible strain on her mother. I wish her a full recovery from this epic pregnancy.

  2. Biden went after Jills’ first husband after she had sign over a 35k home in New York they jointly owned.(one of many at the time , only married 4 years)
    Her ex is a big business roller from way back he points out they did 30 million in one business.
    He explains how Biden for 35 years has been using government power against him.
    It’s a real eye opener. Biden was, and still is, a real piece of dirty work.

    1. Oliver Stone “Regrets Voting For Biden, Fears He May Start World War 3”

      ““If we don’t stop this, what Biden is doing, this guy is – I voted for him – I made a mistake, I was thinking he was an old man now that he would calm down, that he would be more mellow and so-forth, I didn’t see that at all,”

      *too late .. . this guy already has started World War III

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    Democratic lawmakers are criticizing Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s recent interview with the Wall Street Journal
    in which he stated “no provision” in the Constitution allows Congress to regulate the Supreme Court.
    By Tara Suter – 07/29/23

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  4. The straw that broke the camel’s back seems to be a piece penned by Maureen Dowd in the New York Times reminding the first family what it means to be civilized, decent people.

  5. OT, but thought provoking nonetheless. From an essay over at Tablet:

    Yet it wasn’t the differences between us that posed the biggest challenge to our unity; it was the constant reminders from above of those differences.

  6. Although I wish Joe Biden had apologized for the entire family presenting a united front against little Navy, I am glad he acknowledged her existence. I think Joe Biden should have admitted he was wrong. He should bring her to the White House and give her the experience of seeing it from the perspective of the First Family that she deserves, as a Biden grandchild.

    It’s been heartbreaking to watch an entire family shut a little girl out, yet give privileged status to the person who actually did wrong by her, Hunter Biden.

    Navy, and every child in her position, deserve the best chance they can get at life. I sincerely hope that Hunter Biden, being off the rails, does not get any custody of Navy. He’s still too self destructive.

    1. The Bidens are horrible people.

      “Now, please don’t ask why.
      No one quite knows the reason.
      It could be his head wasn’t screwed on just right.
      It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
      But I think that the most likely reason of all,
      May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.”

      -Dr. Seuss

  7. Lunden(mom) and Navy (daughter) Roberts

    “Despite those claims, paperwork filed by Lunden’s attorney also said that Hunter, who also has a seven-month-old baby with new wife Melissa, was estimated to be worth $156million.

    The paperwork said “at least one proposed intervenor contends that the defendant has assets of over $156 million dollars”.

    (just think how much bribes and graft they still have covered up)

    Lunden’s attorney Clinton Lancaster also said Hunter has had no role in the child’s upbringing.

    He wrote Hunter has “never interacted with the child, never parented the child, never made or even participated in health related decisions for the child, never interacted with the child’s medical professionals, never seen the child and could not identify the child out of a photo lineup.” ”

    1. Shakdi, I don’t think Hunter should ever have access to the child unattended until and unless he gets sober, and corrects his course of self destruction. I don’t think he should be alone with the kids in his own home, for the same reason. Addicts who are not in a strong recovery are just not in any position to be responsible for children.

      It’s just devastating for kids to have a parent lost to addiction.

      1. ” None of the Bidens have met four-year-old Navy Joan, including President Joe Biden, first lady Jill , Hunter and baby Beau Biden …”

        I don’t disagree with that at all. Hunter cannot be trusted at all in this matter obviously. Joe is as bad or worse.
        Here’s the thing. If a parents child grown up, starts making egregious mistakes like disowning a family member for no reason, the parent should step in and show the errant child how to act right.
        I really can’t say any decent family wouldn’t be doing that.
        That’s what is expected especially of elders who aren’t broke and who have access to plenty of help in that matter.

        There is no excuse for any of the Bidens. Who can fathom the selfishness and uncaring showed to the entire nation ?

  8. Just a quick post to push Dennis’ typically off topic ramblings further down the line. If you are like me, and read only the first 2 sentences of his drivel, please post and send him down another step.

  9. Jonathan: Some in the media are now calling DJT’s recent behavior the desperate acts of a “Mob boss”–threats against prosecutors, pretty open calls for violence, attempts to intimidate judges and witnesses. It all fits a pattern of a Mob boss who is facing criminal prosecution.

    This morning I was reading Jack Smith’s superseding indictment that now includes Carlos DeOliveira as a named defendant. The indictment of DeO, Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property manager, alleges he was part of the conspiracy by Trump and Nauta to delete or destroy the security footage that showed the movement of boxes of classified material around the property to hide it from federal authorities.

    What caught my eye was what appears at page 31, paragraph 91 of the superseding indictment. It states: “…on August 26, 2022, Nauta called Trump Employee 5 and said words to the effect of ‘someone just wants to to make sure Carlos is good’. In response, Trump Employee 5 told Nauta that De Oliveira was loyal and that De Oliveira would not do anything to effect his relationship with Trump. That same day, at Nauta’s request, Trump Employee 5 confirmed in a Signal chat group with Nauta and the PAC Representative [Trump’s Save America PAC] that De Oliveira was loyal. That same day, Trump called De Oliveira and told De Oliveira that Trump would get De Oliveira an attorney”. Sounds like something right out a Mob crime movie doesn’t it?

    We know Trump’s PAC is paying the legal fees of Walt Nauta, his co-defendant, that has set aside $20 million for legal fees. And if DeO remains “loyal” Trump will do the same for him. So far Nauta has remained “loyal” and there is no indication he is about to flip on his boss. On the other hand, DeO is in a different position. He is not part of DJT’s inner circle. He is a low-level Mar-a-Lago employee who, unfortunately, got caught up in DJT’s conspiracy to obstruct. A friend of DeO’s family says “the family feels like he got trapped”.

    At his arraignment on Monday DeO will be told he faces charges that could result in a prison sentence of from 5 to 20 years. Faced with that prospect what is DeO’s incentive to remain “loyal” to Trump? Mark Meadows realized there was no reason to remain “loyal” to his former boss and now is apparently a cooperating witness in Jack Smith’s investigation. Jack Smith hopes DeO will do the same. Tell the truth and avoid a long prison sentence.

    Now the Q you have to ask yourself is this. If you were served with a subpoena to produce some of your business records how would you respond? You would get an attorney and comply with the subpoena. That’s what any other former president would do. Biden and Pence didn’t even wait for a subpoena for the top secret docs they had in their possession. They immediately turned them over to the government. But that’s not how a Mob boss thinks. He thinks he can escape accountability by hiding documents and destroying evidence of his crimes. DJT is going to find out otherwise.

    1. Yeah, just wait til investigators get to Biden’s offshore accounts….coming in September….

  10. I am concerned about the little girl’s state of mind years from now when she can comprehend how much of a loser her father was, and how repugnant the Biden family is. It’s reasonable to expect she’ll have as much trauma to work through as the Bidens’ daughter who left the diary in the rehab facility in South FL.

      1. Those laptop pictures are sufficient reason to keep that child far far away from her father. Pictures and video of Joe Biden with young girls is sufficient reason to keep her far far away from her grandfather. Both seem to have problems keeping their hands off young girls as well as grown ladies.

  11. Took them long enough. But I am gonna nominate them for Grandparents of the Year Award.

  12. Is this political ?

    It would be revealing about the character of Hunter Biden – except that Hunter Biden’s abysmal character has already been established.

    It is one thing for those on the left to claim that it is not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Joe Biden is corrupt

    But it is absolutely ludicrous the efforts those on the left and democrats go to defend Hunter Biden.

    Absolutely Hunter is NOT the core issue.

    So why is it that democrats and those on the left have so much trouble admitting Hunter Biden is a crook.
    He is clearly a dead beat dad – even today he fights tooth and nail to evade responsibility for his children.
    You can think what you wish of Navy’s mother – Hunter Biden is responsible for his child.
    He is a drug addict – and frankly NOT in some warm and fuzzy victim of Drugs way.
    Hunter Biden is a powerful White Dude who CHOSE a life of drug abuse, prositutes, alcohol abuse, human trafficing.
    influence peddling.

    I can accept the “loving parents” defense of Joe Biden’s blindness to the faults of his son.
    But that is not an excuse for Democrats and those on the left.

    Hunter is a BAD PERSON – While his is NOT the big deal on the political context – he is just an ordinary white male reckless powerful connected criminal – why is it so hard for those on the left to admit that ?

    you can claim that proof beyond a shadow of a doubt does not exist regarding VP Biden.

    But why are those on the left actually defending Hunter ?

    There are people who did nothing violent who did not go into the capitol, who did not encourage others. who are in jail for 18 years over idiotic stretching the law regarding J6.

    Why does it matter to those on the left that Hunter Biden gets no consequences for a long list of serious crimes ?

    There are TWO reasons that Hunter Biden matters:

    Because of the political damage to Joe Biden if he is forced to pardon hunter before the 2024 election.
    Because Joe Biden was complicit in the influence pedaling of Hunter Biden.

    Aside from those two issues it does not matter whether Hunter gets a sweetheart deal or spends his life in prison.

    Very very few of us care about Hunter Biden.

    Julian Assange has spent far more time incarcerated than Hunter Biden ever will – despite never being convicted of a crime, and being accused of embarrasing the “deep state” by committing the crime of journalism.

    I have sympathy for Assange. I have none for Hunter.

    Claims that Hunter is “innocent” are complete idiocy. Hunter is far more guilty of the crimes that resulted in Manaforts imprisonment than Manafort – with a long list of others. We have seen no evidence that Manafort made his foreign money illegally. We have no evidence that Manafort engaged in the massive tax evasion that Hunter did. We have no evidence that Manafort abused drugs – and certainly not to the extent that Hunter did. We have no evidence that Manafort was up to his ass in prostitutes as Hunter Biden was. We have no evidence that Manafort engaged in human trafficking – as Hunter did. We have no evidence of gun violations on the part of Manafort, no evidence of lying in sworn documents as Hunter did. We have no evidence of Manafort shicking responsibility for the children he sired. We have no evidence of Manafort shacking up with his dead brothers wife.

    All in all Hunter Biden is a revolting person who no one should have any sympathy for.

    Hunter Biden should be universally reviled.
    he long ago lost the benefit of the doubt on pretty much everything.

    Further while MAYBE he is no longer up to his neck in prostitutes, human trafficking, alcohol and drug abuse, there is no evidence he has had a come to jesus moment, that he has actually reformed and turned his life arround.
    At best he is no longer engaging in as much self destructive conduct as before.

    But he has not had a paul on the road from damascus moment, He is at best no longer killing himself at high speed.

    He has not become a good person.

    Most of us EXPECT Joe Biden to defend his only remaining son – despite his flaws.
    We can forgive Joe Biden’s blindness to Hunter Faults.

    But we CAN NOT excuse the blindness of Democrats, of the left, of Garland, of the DOJ or US attorney’s.

    Hunter is NOT their son. They are expected to follow the law BLIND to who Hunter’s father is.

    They have not, most of those of you in the media, on the left, democrats – HAVE NOT.

    You are defending a scumbag. Someone little different from 2.5 million people – almost half of whom are black who are in jail right now. in the US.

    Hunter is not the issue. Those of you defending him are.

    Why he is being protected is a HUGE deal.

    Hunter is not being protected because he is a good person who did some minor bad things.
    He is being defended because he is the Bag Man for the President of the United States.

    And THAT is political and corrupt.

    Further Joe Biden’s dedication to his family. his willful blindness of Hunters faults is forgiveable if Joe really is the Family person he claims to be.

    But he failure to acknowledge Navy obliterates his family man false persona.

    Navy is innocent. She is Hunter’s daughter, she is Joe’s Granddaughter.
    That has been true for the past 4 years.

    We expect parents to defend their children.
    But those who disown their grandchildren do NOT have strong family values.

    Joe’s 4 year rejection of his grand daughter and his poltically expedient reversal is a very BAD reflection on Joe’s values,
    Joes humanity.

    And it takes more than a press release to fix.

    We are leaving Navy alone.

    We are NOT leaving Joe alone.
    Joe is a legitimate political target and his unconscienable treatment of his granddaughter is a reflection if HIS values.

    1. John B Say, most articles refer to Lunden as a former stripper. Nearly all of them do so.

      She previously worked as a stripper, and apparently, out of all her life experiences, that’s the advective that will forever be attached to her name.

      I don’t understand why the same standard is not applied to Hunter Biden. As in, “Lunden Roberts, former stripper, mother of Navy, the daughter of Hunter Biden, current drug addict and under federal investigation for money laundering and bribery schemes.

      Why doesn’t that phrase follow Hunter Biden around in those same articles?

      1. You raise a whole set of issues – that are real but independent of what I addressed.

        Absolutely the media is – and has been incredibly biased in the way it deals with those it favors vs. those it disfavors – in straight news and that has been true my entire lifetime – though it is worse today.

        Often that is political – btu the real driving issue is not politics but that Journalists near universally tilt their language to express their biases – even in straight news.

        You are correct that mentioning Lunden’s past is only reasonable if Hunter’s is also always mentioned.

        But these problems are much broader. The use of the word alleged – when something is alleged and when it is assumed true and when credible allegations are completely omitted by journalists is powerful evidence of biases – political and otherwise.

        It is not untruthful to say that X is alleged to have done Y – if there is a credible allegation made.

        But it is Biased to say X is alleged to have done Y, when that is not mentioned in reference to W – who has also done Y.

      2. Again my focus – while agreeing with your post, is on Joe Biden.
        Not Hunter, not Navy, not Lunden.

        We do not hold children accountable for the sins of their parents.
        Navy is Joe Biden’s GrandDaughter. That is true REGARDLESS of Lunden’s conduct.
        Navy does not become not their grand daughter if Lunden extracted Hunter’s semen from used condoms and fertilixzed herself using a Turkey baster for the purpose of extorting the Biden family.

  13. When people talk about the generous settlement, one has to consider how many worthless paintings worth up to $500,000 were given. The buffoon commented on this, but his post is gone. He knows so little.

    “According to court documents, Mr. Biden, 53, agreed to pay a monthly sum, which was not disclosed, to Ms. Roberts, as well as turn over several of his paintings, the net proceeds of which would go to his daughter. Mr. Biden, who is in recovery from a crack cocaine addiction, started a second career as a painter whose works have been listed for $500,000 each.” _NYT

  14. One has to wonder what deal was struck with Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen, mother to his 6th child. How much are they paying her to be married to him in order to rehab Hunter’s image? Look at Hunter, rebuiling his life with his new wife, their adorable toddler, all hanging out with Grandpa Joe? Awww….what a nice family Hunter has. What a nice, close loving family those Biden’s are.

    Gag us all.

    The Biden’s are a close family because they all want their fair share of the Biden corruption pie. Here is a deposit for you granddaughter, a deposit for you sister, and you brother, and you current wife of Hunter, and you prior wife of Beau and lover of Hunter, and you and you and you. Now y’all make sure to come to the White House for the Biden family photo ops…..aww….see what a close family those Biden’s are? How nice….

    Gag us all. Joe Biden is a criminal. Lock them all up in prison where they belong.

    Why blacks who actually went to prison under Joe Biden’s 1994 crime bill can stomach voting for Democrats or the racist Joe Biden, is a real mystery. Same with all those prosecuted for lying on federal forms to get a gun. Or those sitting in prison for tax evasion, etc.
    People who give Joe Biden their vote, or God forbid, their respect (gasp!) are truly brainwashed by the media. It’s irrational mental illness.

    1. *mother to Hunter’s 4th child and Joe’s 6th grandchild

      Melissa Cohen has to be paid off. No woman in her right mind would get into a relationship with Hunter Biden, let alone crawl into bed with that sick POS, or have a baby with him. That woman struck a very lucrative deal to help rehab Hunter’s image so Joe could parade them front and center as proof of Hunter’s new cleaned up image. Total bullsh*t.

      It was suggested that Navy’s mom also struck a deal where Joe and Jill had to publicly acknowledge the child as part of her settlement arrangments.

      1. I think Mrs. Hunter is working for Mossad, like that chick on NCIS ten years ago. She phones home when MBS sends a payment to one of the shell cos.

  15. Jonathan: A few on this blog have charged me with resorting to ad hominem attacks re my comment about your ref. to “being raised in a politically active Democratic family in Chicago” (see your column “Pew: Seventy Percent…”, 7/27). My comment was not an attack on your character but rather to point out the contradiction between your family’s apparent liberal Democratic values and how you morphed into the present day JT— who espouses and pushes the GOP right-wing agenda.

    Compare my comment to your column today over Hunter Biden’s putative daughter “Navy”. If this was any other family you would treat it, as it should be, as a personal family problem–not worthy of comment or even a entire column. But this is campaign season and your job at Fox is to continually attack the Biden family. You accuse Hunter of being a “callous cad” and you are shocked at “the cruelty of the First Couple shunning this child”. You call the WH response “maddening and frankly insulting”. Resorting to invective and personal insults seems a new low for you.

    You are apparently playing clean up ( to use a baseball metaphor) for Marjorie Taylor Greene who held up that photo of naked Hunter Biden having sex for the whole world to see. It was a disgraceful performance by MTG and she is now subject to a House ethics complaint and maybe even a lawsuit by Hunter for intentional inflection of emotional distress. MTG’s despicable antic and now your column is part of the the Fox/GOP attempt to try to discredit Joe Biden and his administration. Nothing, I guess, is off limits. Not even what should be regarded as a personal family problem. That’s the really “insulting” part of this shameful spectacle. Which gets us back to the point in my previous comment: How could someone from a well-known Democratic family in Chicago and once a respective conservative legal scholar, could now get down in the dirt with Rupert Murdock and sling mud at the Biden family? It’s disgraceful but, hey, that’s what you get paid to do!

    1. Ya why doesn’t everyone just leave those poor Biden’s alone? Leave them alone!

      Can you even hear how ridiculous you sound?

        1. Thersites, this video is what my mind imagines when I think of the narcissistic Dennis crying for his mother’s milk. It’s worth watching.


          1. If the Britney fan had instead a father like Don Corleone, the worst he could have amounted to would be a Fredo.

      1. No: LEAVE THE CHILD ALONE! She is not a political weapon, and it is wrong to use her as such. That’s the point you don’t seem to get.

        1. Thank God people have shown more care for Navy than the horrible president himself, biden, who discarded her, threw her away trying to keep a tiny bit of dignity or self worth or whatever strange self involved reasons went through his head.
          Frankly I can’t even believe he is so horrible as to have done it.
          I think he is so mental and so far estranged from the general public who he obviously hates, that he thought if he just kept denying Navy is one of his granddaughters, no one would know.
          This type of total rejection of family not born in an elite social networked setting is known and comes from kings, iron fisted rulers, monarchs, totalitarians and dictators. “Keeping the family tree” “clean”.

          It’s so disgusting for a president of the USA who squeals about equality and equity every day he should resign in amoral shame for doing it.
          Obama does the same thing to some of his relatives – leaves one brother in destitute poverty on the African continent.
          What the heck is wrong with your demoncrat “leaders” – multi-millionaires with endless estates and perks and they throw their own blood away, denying their very existence. What the heck is wrong with them ?

          I really cannot believe it. Who can imagine what those goofballs were ever thinking ?
          They preach and preach taking care of the poor and government programs and working in unity despite differences, THEN THEY THROW AWAY FAMILY MEMBERS FOR NO REASON.
          Any decent person would make certain they are taken care of with their endless millions of dollars, but not joe biden, not barack hussein obama !

          It’s really unfathomable. One cannot even imagine the type of detestable non caring selfishness it requires to pull that crap off especially while a president of the USA. Biden should resign for it, for being so low it is unimaginable.

        2. The “child” is being left alone.

          It is the “child’s” Father and grandparents that are not being left along – because THEY refuse to acknowledge her.

          Bad Parents and Grand Parents do not get a free pass because left wing nuts try to use the “child” as a shield.

          There would be little attention paid to Navy if Hunter had not fought tooth and nail against acknowledging and supporting her.
          Aside from Hunter’s failure to support Navy – does he ever spend any time with the child ?
          Does he make the least attempt to be a Parent ?

          Do Joe and Jill make the least effort to be Grandparents ?
          Until recently they denied she existed.

          THAT is the issue.

          You can not wrap yourself in family values and then turn your back on Family.

    2. “My comment was not an attack on your character but rather to point out the contradiction between your family’s apparent liberal Democratic values and how you morphed into the present day JT— who espouses and pushes the GOP right-wing agenda.”

      Dennis, your brain is so warped you don’t recognize how different today’s Democrat Party is from the Democrat Party of JFK. Most of the change happened recently without you noticing. Maybe one day you will wake up from your slumber and see the world realistically. Until then you will remain a ding-a-ling.

    3. Dennis, Turley is, perhaps, the most disingenuous pundit in Washington. He’s always shocked, baffled or chilled by whatever liberals he’s condemning.

      1. There not liberals. Turley is a liberal.
        Derschowitz is a liberal.

        The democratic party lost its connection with liberalism with Obama.
        The deomocratic party is progressive
        it is neo post modern.

        It is increasingly totalitarian.

        The question is why is Turley still a democrat.

        No actual liberal can be a democrat today.

          1. thanks.

            I would not we are in a period of political turmoil.

            BOTH parties are changing their core values.
            This has happened before – but never so dramatically in my lifetime.
            and probably never so quickly.

            The claim that we had a uniparty was relatively true for most of my life.
            The differences between republicans and democrats were small.
            Both parties had pro-life and pro-choice wings.
            Democrats TENDED to be more opposed to war and the military.
            Republicans tended to be more pro law enforcement.
            Democrats were more strongly free speech.
            Democrats were more strongly pro government solutions to problems.
            Democrats were the party of the workling class
            Republicans the party of business – particularly big business.
            Democrats the party of unions.
            Republicans tended to want a securee border but were stronger supporters of large LEGAL immigration.

            Today things are flipping all over.
            Neo-cons are rushing to the democratic party.
            The democratic party is teetering on the edge of being openly marxist.
            They are anti-free speech
            they are deeply in bed with big business.

            Republicans are becoming increasingly libertarian.

            Regardless, you can not use political terms from even a decade ago and apply them the same as in the past.

            Liberalism is DEAD in the democratic party.
            Few democrats continue to use the word liberal to talk about democrats.
            Some are even openly critical of liberalism.

            I have fought those on the left calling themselves liberals for more than a decade.
            Amazingly – those ont he left have agreed – they not only AREN’T liberal the are openly critical of liberalism, and with few exceptions do not use the term.

            We should not either.

            A liberal is someone who places a very high value on individual liberty.

            When Push comes to shove – I do not think most 20th century liberals – including Derschowitz and Turley are actual liberals.
            Their near absolute position on SOME civil liberties – such as free speech is NOT reflected in their support for other government actions that ultimately come at the expense of our liberty.

            But democrats today do not even pretend to value individual liberty – and certainly not free speech.
            They are not liberal even in the weakest form.

            And they are completely at odds to even the weak liberalism of 2th century liberals like Turley and Derschowitz.

    4. Dennis: thank you for this post. IMHO, Turley not only sunk low as a human being with this post, but he crossed a line professionally. Paternity matters in most, if not all, states are sealed –to protect the child against the judgmental attitudes of self-righteous people like some who post on this blog. Turley not only parades out this child and gives out her actual name, but uses the unfortunate circumstances of her conception and disputes between her parents over child support and other private matters for political purposes–as an attack against our President. At one time, using the children of a POTUS as an attack against their parent was considered off-limits–and for good reasons. It’s not fair for a child to be drug into the spotlight and to become an object of cricitism or public scorn over the conduct of lthe adults of his/her family. IMHO, Turley’s use of this child as a political weapon against Joe Biden (who isn’t even her father) may well constitute a violation of the Rules of Professional Conduct because it reflects adversely on the practice of law to violate the rule requiring paternity matters to be confidential. Turley isn’t just some cynical paid pundit like Hannity and Levin. He holds himself out as a “law professor” and expert on “constitutional law”, and, IMHO, if you’re going to sell yourself as a legal expert, you should be bound by the Rules of Professional Conduct. Turley has the arrogance to claim: “However, few have the stomach for how the Bidens treated this little girl. The Bidens spent more time fretting over the “pressure” of the White House on Major and Commander than they did the emotional impact on a four-year-old child who was prevented from even calling herself a Biden.” No decent person would have the stomach to conscience a “law professor” and “constitutional scholar” stooping to the depths Turley has to not only out an illegitimate child, but also to accuse her grandfather of crimes knowing there is NO proof. (see below). Turley doesn’t know what’s going on in the Biden family, but pretends to know that Joe and Jill Biden value their dog more than this child.

      Turley has the hypocritical gall to say: “Washington is a hard town. I have lived and worked here for decades and I am still amazed by the cold calculations of many in this city.” There’s nothing more coldly calculating than using an illegitimate child as a political cudgel, which is what he has done, and this is beneath someone pretending to be an expert in the law.

      To top it off, Turley claims: “Yet, even in this place of utter personal corruption, the Bidens shocked the local population. It was not their millions in influence peddling. The Bidens are standouts but hardly unique in that form of corruption. It is not the President’s obvious lies about his knowledge and ties to his son’s foreign dealings.” As has been repeated many times, NO “influence peddling” has been PROVEN–no “follow the money trail” has been established despite years of investigation. And, “influence peddling” is not illegal. According to Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani, there was NO “influence peddling”. Republicans KNOW this, but keep harping on the laptop because it’s all they have. And, the disciples lap it up. Turley’s prior posts claim “influence peddling” based on laptop messages dated when Biden wasn’t even in office–so how could Joe Biden peddle “influence” when he wasn’t in any political office? Hunter’s posts may be nothing than puffing the goods, and despite multiple investigations, nothing has been proven. But, Turley speaks as if it is PROVEN–which it isn’t. He also calls our President a liar–but where’s the proof?

      1. Wow, Gigi, you really schooled Turley that time….NOT

        There is not a shred of evidence for anything you said. You made it all up.

      2. Gigi:

        What in the world are you talking about? This is not a sealed court case. Lunden has publicly fought for her daughter, Navy, to be recognized as a Biden. It’s in the media.

        The identity of the girl was not hidden.

        Journalists have been asking Joe Biden about little Navy for a long time. Whyever would you select Jonathan Turley to blame for making it public that the Biden family fought tooth and nail against recognizing little Navy as being part of their family?

        Hunter Biden refused to accept he was the father, refused to accept the results of the DNA test, fought against paying child support for the little girl he’d created, fought the amount of child support he was court ordered to pay, and Joe Biden has publicly refused to acknowledge that Navy exists as his granddaughter, even giving his German Shepherds a Christmas stocking instead of her.

        It’s disgusting, and it’s of public interest. When the president of the United States goes on and on about how devoted he is to family, and how he’ll stand by his drug addict son no matter what, and it comes out that he’s totally rejected the little girl that drug addict son created, then it’s news.

        Joe Biden has that practiced, smooth, toothy smile, and that chuckle, to portray the devoted family man. It’s just an act to hide the ugly grift, pay to play, bribery, and other money making schemes. And apparently, he’s very selective about the family he’ll stand by. He’ll claim the drug addict out of control son, but not the completely innocent little girl that son sired. People don’t like that at all about him, which may be why he acknowledged her at last, though he failed to apologize.

        Also, you’re fabricating that Hunter’s schemes were not at a time when Joe Biden was in office. It’s already been proven that the email when he threatened a Chinese partner to pay up because his father was standing right beside him, occurred on a day when Hunter was in the White House, and Joe was VP. Later that day, he was photographed driving Joe’s corvette, with a couple of women. The Burisma pay to play scheme happened when Joe was VP.

        You can’t just make things up to form your argument.

        1. Karen S: I don’t waste time in my life bothering to respond to your posts because you’ve proven time and again that you are nothing but an alt-right disciple who hates Democrats, who believes whatever lies are peddled from your alt-right sources and who uses big words to disguise her blind loyalty to alt-right media. An illegitimate child fathered by the child of a politician with a sex worker is not a matter of “public interest”–it’s emotional child abuse–committed, ironically, in the name of a political party that claims to care about “family values”. No, wait–that was the Republican Party BEFORE Donald Trump took over. Now, all they care about is getting and keeping power, doing anything, everything possible–refusing to speak against or even admit the Big Lie, gerrymandering, doing everything possible to make it harder for potential Democrats to vote, refusing to speak against Trump stealing classified documents, lying about returning them, flashing around the contents to impress young female staffers, and now, trying to erase security camera videos AFTER receiving a subpoena. Now, they’re using an innocent child to attack Joe Biden. And, to you, Joe Biden is the bad guy.

          The tag of illegitimacy and her mother’s history as a sex worker are now in the public domain, and due to the guaranteed cruelty of other children, and their self-righteous parents, she will pay for these things–not because of her parents–but because of people like Turley and your alt-right media that outed her and harp on her situation as a means to smear Joe Biden, especially since he has turned around all of the damage done by Trump to our economy, our public health and our relations with EU and NATO allies. Just look at the vitriol in your post about JOE Biden–the depth of your irrational hatred of our President is stunning. Nothing from Hunter’s laptop has been PROVEN–NOTHING. There is no money trail proving any payment to JOE Biden from anyone nor any favors received, despite literally years of investigation. So, they harp on the laptop, claiming it is proof of “corruption”–which it isn’t. And a recent post by Turley claimed the laptop proved there were payoffs in 2017 and 2018–when your hero was stinking up our White House. Biden couldn’t peddle influence when he wasn’t in power. It’s all a diversion away from the serious crimes against America committed by the orange one you worship.

      3. Gigi, While you are generally right about the law regarding child support – you are oblivious tot he FACTS.

        All of which are quite public long BEFORE Turley referenced them.

        Further the courts sealing of documents is to protect the child – not the parents from the consequences of their folly.

        Navy is innocent – and no one on the right, and very few on the left are judging her harshly.

        I do not think Navy is old enough to decide her last name. But when she is she should be able to have whatever last name she chooses.

        Absolutely Navy;s mother is trying to take advantage of things. As are many on the right who are aiding her.

        That does not change the fact that Hunter Biden is a clear Dead Beat Dad.
        Nor does it change the fact that Joe Biden is a schffty grandfather.

        You are right – Navy is innocent in all this and should be protected from the spotlight and cameras.

        But ultimately it is her mother, Hunter, the Biden clan that have made a spectacle of all of this.

        And pretty much no one – right or left is judging Navy who has the misfortune to be born into a highly dysfunctional family.

        If the public glare was not on all of this – Joe Biden would STILL be a schifty grand father.
        Hunter Biden would still be a dead beat dad,

        Sealing records is to protect Navy – not her parents and grand parents.

        Not the miserable adults in her life that have made a spectacle out of themselves and her.

        If YOU and Biden wanted this to be a family matter and not political, The Biden’s could have acknowledged their daughter and grand daughter long ago, provided for her, and included her in their family. And this all would be small potatoes.

        Navy is Hunter Biden’s daughter – whether he wanted her or not.
        Navy is Joe Biden’s Grand daughter – regardless of the conduct of her parents.

        Her parents and grand parents have made fools of themselves and deserve the public scorn they get.

      4. Whether Hunter Biden’s remarks were puffery or real threats,

        The people he threatened paid him millions. That is PROVEN.

        Either Hunter Biden is the worlds greatest international grifter and con artist,

        Or Joe Biden has sold out the country.

        There is not any middle ground.

        We are upwards of 50M that has passed through Hunter to the rest of his family.

        Why did all these global thugs pay Hunter Biden copious amounts of money ?

        No one beleives that these people gave the Bidens $50M out of the goodness of their hearts.

        Hunter Biden was PAID, that is a FACT,
        He was PAID for something – that is a FACT.

        What Turley is pointing out – which is pretty obvious to everyone else is that.

        Hunter was not paid for condo’s in Florida.
        He was not paid for rooms at a resort
        he was not paid for branded clothing over the internet.

        Hunter was paid for a product.

        The Product was VP Biden.

        There is actually plenty of evidence of that.
        But the strongest evidence is that no one is offering an alternative explanation.

        Why – because alternatives can be checked.

        The bribery case against VP Biden is much stronger than that against McDonald and against Menedez.

        This is not a governor getting watches, this is not a former president getting paid for speeches.
        This is not a rich freind taking his supreme court justice buddy on vacation with him.
        This is not two friends exchanging favors.

        This is the Vice presidnet and his family getting tens of millions from very disreputable people tied to hostile foreign governments and to hostile spy regimes.

        We are all entitled to know FOR WHAT ?

        Further much of this was While Joe Biden was VP.
        There is no “none of your business” regarding the affairs of elected officials especially presidents and vice presidents and especially with regard to their conduct as president and vice president.

    5. Dennis, is it just me or did JT’s fall from grace in the manner you speak of begin during the Trump years or Obama years? I can’t pinpoint because I was away for a time. When I came back I have witnessed extreme bias in JT’s writings. And I was appalled by his overreaching legal interpretations when he testified on behalf of President Trump before Congress. All of his biases have caused me to wonder what could they possibly be holding over head.

      1. It’s the Constitution’s “fall from grace” that engenders your perspective on Professor Turley.

        Constitutional scholars are beside themselves in this environment complete abrogation of that document.

      2. Kidrambler: I don’t know what happened to JT. I have followed him only for the last few years. He says he voted for Obama but consistently attacked Obama’s policies. JT has always sought the limelight because his views on constitutional interpretation views are at the margins. Most constitutional scholars don’t treat him seriously. When Rupert Murdock offered him a job as Fox’s “legal analyst” JT jumped at the chance to get his views out in the public domain. He must get a generous paycheck because he consistently follows the Fox talking point of the day…a lot of conspiracy theories and other misinformation. That’s the bread and butter of Fox–even after Murdock had to pay that huge settlement in the Dominion defamation case.

        JT provides an echo chamber for whatever Murdock is pushing. Notice JT has written little lately about all of DJT’s legal troubles. That’s because Murdock has turned his back on Trump and now wants his Fox hosts to concentrate on attacking the Biden family–all in an effort to to get another Republican into the WH next year–anyone other than Trump. So every thing JT writes these days follows the Murdock line– attacks on Hunter and Joe Biden–even stooping to engaging in tabloid-type hearsay and innuendo about Hunter’s putative daughter. It’s unseemly for someone who portrays himself as a “constitutional scholar” to engage in this kind trash talk. I mean, you would never see constitutional scholars like Lawrence Tribe or Erwin Chererinsky engaging in that kind of personal invective.

        In case you are interested there is a long article in Salon about JT: “What happened to Jonathan Turley, Really?” by Robert Weisberg (11/18/22).

        1. Dennis: thank you. If this child’s father had not been Hunter Biden, her identity and the disputes regarding child support, etc. would have remained confidential. That is a fact.

          1. Correct, and if the child’s father had not been Hunter the dead beat would have lost in court long ago.
            And nearly everyone in the country would have been fine with that.
            Had the Child’s grandfather not been Joe Biden – most of us would have paid no attention, but to the extent we did, we would have condemned the uncarring grand parents.

            The issue is NOT Navy.

            The issue is primarily Her evil Grand parents who until very recently denied she existed.
            While wrapping themselves in claims of family values.

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