We recently discussed a poll showing that 68% of voters believe President Joe Biden acted either criminally or unethically in connection to the foreign dealings of his son, Hunter Biden. Now a Fox poll has found largely that same response — a majority believes that both Biden and former president Donald Trump have committed criminal acts. It is an extraordinary political and legal moment where the two frontrunners for the presidency are believed to be criminal actors by many voters.
The Fox polls show that 52% of voters believe Trump did something illegal in connection to efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents. Only 23% believe that Trump did not commit criminal acts. Obviously, the results are driven by the overwhelming view of Democrats (86%) but independents (53%) also think Trump did something illegal.
On the Bidens, 52% think Hunter Biden did something illegal in relation to his business dealings in Ukraine and China. That worsening situation is again driven on one side with Republicans. However, there was an 18% shift in independents that should worry the President. Some 40 percent believe that Joe Biden committed crimes. That is close to the 36 percent who shared that view in the earlier poll.
What is particularly notable is that 69 percent now believe that Joe Biden acted with criminally or unethically — virtually identical to the other poll.
As I wrote earlier, the most striking aspect of these polls is the disconnect with the mainstream media. Despite overwhelmingly protective coverage for the Bidens, the public is simply not buying it. While both the Democrats and the media have been unrelenting in opposing investigations into the Bidens, the public has long supported such efforts.
These consistent polls show that the public is tuning out the media spin on the corruption scandal involving the Bidens. It also shows (with both Trump and Biden) that the same roughly 25% remain constant for both candidates.
NB: The headline and two lines were changed to reflect that the view of Joe Biden as a criminal actor has increased but remains under 50 percent. However, 69% now view the President as acting either criminally or unethically.
I’m one endictment away from being re-elected.
better than being one functioning brain cell away from being re-elected.
When it comes to President Trump, Clinton with the support of the msm gave us:
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
Joseph Goebbels
Counselor may rephrase.
The Democrat Party of today is THE biggest threat to our democracy and our country.
It is up to We The People to save our country from the evil, lawlessness and criminality that is today’s Democrat Party. We are at war.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
– Declaration of Independence, 1776
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Now you grasp that secession was and is fully constitutional, coming as “advise and consent” by the American Revolutionaries, Founders and Framers.
I know who Hillary is. Who is Clinton?
It is confusing
I use Clinton
Clintons wife.
Because Hillary is a nobody without being married to the President.
Actually I think the public views primarily the media and current government and non government actors as criminal to a much greater degree.
Here’s something 98% here believed while I did not. Guess who turned out to be correct for OBVIOUS REASONS ?
Polls only tells us what the stupid public and the lying con artists in their estrogen fueled delusions have been snowed into by the media and political machines.
“Yesterday the Israeli Prime Minister’s office said that it had confirmed Hamas beheaded babies & children while we were live on the air. The Israeli government now says today it CANNOT confirm babies were beheaded. I needed to be more careful with my words and I am sorry.”
A willing wartime propagandist…
https://twitter.com/sarasidnerCNN/status/1712415116363169884
Hey ! The snake island heroes just fluttered by Zelinsky and smiled !
Yep it was all one big jew LIE, just like the baby and incubators
https://twitter.com/sarasidnerCNN/status/1712415116363169884
No 40 babies heads chopped off – as usual only the really stupid people fell for it, and dummy biden had to admit he lied too.
Sarah Sidner, the fake news reporter “The words I used were the PM’s office must have proof if they are confirming this. Then President Biden confirmed seeing it. And then backed tracked.”
Congrats fellas, you all fell for it save one or maybe two with me.
This is why no one should listen you. YOU’RE MORONS OR LIARS OR BOTH.
Let’s see. The mainstream media, the online media, and the Deep State have been attacking President Trump 24/7 365 days per year for 8 years. The same group has been protecting Mr. Biden and the Biden Crime Family for at least 4 years. I think that difference in coverage kind of affects the polls, if they are even fair polls. President Trump has committed NO crimes. The totalitarian Biden Administration has weaponized the DOJ, FBI, and IRS against its’ most significant political opponent, just like any other banana republic or totalitarian country. Pray for our country!
The real story if you actually look at the poll results is that a majority of Americans think Trump committed felonies.
Why do they think that? Is it the evidence presented to them? LOL.
The majority of Americans are idiots told what to think.
If the Fake News would actually report and inform the public about Biden’s OBVIOUS BRIBERY, which is a HIGH CRIME, the majority of Americans would see clearly what the rest of the world powers already know — that we have a TRAITOR to this country occupying the White House and in the pocket of China and other hostile foreign powers.
Joe Biden is a criminal and a traitor to this country.
This is OBVIOUS to anyone with a brain.
Why has he NOT been impeached and removed from office?
“The Fox polls shows that 52% of voters believes Trump did something illegal in connection to efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents. Only 23% believe that Trump did not commit criminal acts. Obviously, the results are driven by the overwhelming view of Democrats (86%) but independents (53%) also think Trump did something illegal.”
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EXTRA CREDIT: Which of the two candidates receives an incessant drumbeat of negative press from a prejudiced Dim dominated media? (HINT: He’s the same guy prosecuted by his political opponent a la Republica de Plátano!)
It was me!!
SEVEN CRIMES A WEEK
“We all think of ourselves as law abiding citizens. According to a poll by onepoll.com, the average person commits around seven crimes per week. ‘Surely they must be talking about other people – I don’t break the law,’ you tell yourself. Remarkably, twenty percent (20%) of people surveyed don’t believe what they do is illegal because, ‘everyone else does it.’”
– McCready Law
Wait! What the —- did Hillary and the communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats, RINOs, AINOs) do? One can’t even count that high. Oh, and exactly how legal is it to “fundamentally transform” a country that was not referenced on your high school application in Indonesia, your father wasn’t even a citizen of, and foundational immigration law didn’t admit you to become a citizen?
Whatever you do, most certainly don’t apply the facts, K?
To wit,
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco et al.
Poll: Voters in Congress increasingly view Jim “The Man From Bucky Russ” Jordan as the winning candidate for the position of Speaker of the House!
Trump gets worse press than Hitler. No wonder so many think he has done ‘something’ wrong. Jesus was executed for less dishonest press.
As for the Bidens…it looks as if there is actual evidence.
It seems like the government is doing everything it can to manufacture phony evidence against Trump while it is doing everything it can to hide actual evidence against Biden.
You think that the government planted hundreds of classified documents at ML and got Trump to admit he had them? You think the faked the phone call with the GA SoS that no one disputes is real?
I don’t think you are real.
You can’t prosecute a president for presidential actions, unless you’re a criminal who ignores the Constitution.
In the second case, Trump is still President.
The remedy HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR CENTURIES HOUSE IMPEACHMENT AND IF SENATE CONVICTS, REMOVAL.
The prosecution is blatantly illegal but as we have seen the government has been on thousands of crimes sprees against Trump for years now.
They lied and said they didn’t spy but they did. The head of the NSA alerted Trump about it and Trump moved his campaign HQ the next day. Then clapper and brennan tried to get rid of the head of the NSA but they failed.
In the first case, all other Presidents have done the same and prior to Trump buildings were erected or secured for the years of presidential papers haggling while things were prepared for memoirs and presidential libraries.
The government bought obama something like 200,000 square feet to play with his stolen top secret documents.
No thought of prosecution was even possible and none was ever done FOR CENTURIES until hating Trump became the reason for the government’s crimes against itself abrogating it’s centuries long lawful understanding and instead pulling an underhanded lying sting and entrapment operation OUT OF THE BLUE while also not following protocol for presidential lawyers and to the loud objections of many involved. No matter, committing crimes because of hating Trump has been excused SINCE DAY ONE.
YOU GOT THE BEHEADED BABIES WRONG TOO, SO YOU’RE NO JUDGE OF ANYTHING.
https://twitter.com/sarasidnerCNN/status/1712415116363169884
It seems like the government is doing everything it can to manufacture phony evidence against Trump while it is doing everything it can to hide actual evidence against Biden.
Good comment Young. The only way that works is by having what is effectively a state-run media arm of the Democratic party doing everything they can to gaslight the American people. I have absolutely no doubt that if the media were to investigate and report without bias, our country would be on an entirely different path.
Olly– ” I have absolutely no doubt that if the media were to investigate and report without bias, our country would be on an entirely different path.”
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I have absolutely no doubt that you are correct, Olly.
That applies not only to President Trump but to nearly every other issue before us. For example their coverage of Covid was wretched and almost certainly led to many unnecessary deaths. Social media was equally corrupt and equally wrong, in part because of government demands for censorship.
The tragic irony of the 1st amendment is it provides the media the freedom to be a co-conspirator with the political class. It’s joked that politicians should be required to wear patches on their suits like NASCAR. The media should be required to do the same.
Olly– “It’s joked that politicians should be required to wear patches on their suits like NASCAR. The media should be required to do the same.”
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Good idea but they probably wouldn’t be able to fully express themselves since swastikas are still out of fashion–for now. Well, except maybe for some Harvard students.
OLLY and Young,
Great comments!
Thank you Upstate!
Thank you sir!
I don’t participate in polls any more. But if I did and I was asked, I’d agree that Trump, technically, “illegally” mishandled classified documents. He did not, however, appear to have malign intent. He was in regular and open communication with authorities about the disputed documents. They took some from him and left others. To me, it seems more like a dispute that should have been resolved in negotiation. Failing that, then in civil court.
I’d also answer, if asked, that I believe Biden illegally mishandled classified documents. So did Hillary. So did Comey. So does the misnamed “intelligence community” who leak classified info to WaPoo whenever they want.
None of them were indicted.
So while I think Trump mishandled classified documents, I also think his indictment is unfair. It’s an example of a political prosecution. Quite similar to how leaders of South American banana republics abuse the justice system against their political opponents for political gain.
There is no evidence I’ve seen that justifies indicting Trump for anything that happened on J6. That is an even worse abuse of power.
But if I did and I was asked, I’d agree that Trump, technically, “illegally” mishandled classified documents
Its impossible for the the President to “mishandle” classified documents.
Trump isn’t President. He wasn’t indicted for acts he took as President, but for acts he took out of office.
Correction: in the classified documents case, he wasn’t indicted for acts he took as President, but for acts he took out of office. In the other 3 cases, at least some of the alleged illegal acts occurred while he was President.
You still cant get past the facts. The President has plenary power concerning classification. If ten years after leaving office the President says its declassified, there is no path to a challenge.
Trump hasn’t claimed in court that the documents were declassified. You still can’t get past this fact.
This is shamefully wrong. Turley conflates Hunter & Joe. The post should be withdrawn.
I don’t know about you, but I’m going over to the flawless “David B. Benson Blog For Eminent And Distinguished Intellectuals Only!”
Thank goodness. One fewer Nony Mice to pester the readership.
Would you have the URL?
I seem to have lost it.
I’d be curious if this follow-up question were asked, “If you believe either Biden or Trump committed a crime, can you name what crime you believe he may have committed?” For Biden, people’s answer, I suspect, would be related to bribery, payoffs, trading access for money, and Trump’s would be something about denying election outcomes. As we know, the former are crimes, and the latter, well….not so much. Poll might show one side is fully brainwashed and the other less so.
You know, if you want to know what crimes Trump has likely committed, you can read his indictments. You’ll find crimes like obstruction and conspiracy to defraud the US.
You know, if you want to know what crimes Trump
You know
That is no where near what the comment from David said
iowan2 is proof that trump sycophants can’t read. David said…”Trump’s would be something about denying election outcomes. ”
No, read the indictments, it is not anything about denying election outcomes. JT through his disinformation campaign has been trying convince people that this is all free speech of trump. Looks like he is succeeding but it is not true. Perhaps JT has been loving the filthy lucre from fox for so long perhaps even he can’t see truth when it knocks him on the head.
Your right. It is so hard for trump supporters to read.
Every presidential election won by a Republican, going back to 1980, has been denied by Democrats and contested by Democrats in the well of Congress. Every single one. What Trump attempted to do was no different from what Democrats have ALWAYS done.
Democrats have never accepted Trump’s presidency as legitimate. They formed their Resistance, as if they are fighting an evil Nazi regime, and they have never stopped.
The Democrat Party of today is THE biggest threat to our democracy and our country.
We are at war with the Communist Democrat Party that is destroying our country from within — as most Republicans sit quietly by and let them.
Trump is nearly the only one actually fighting these criminal thugs in order to save this country.
It is OBVIOUS to anyone paying attention.
And yet they have not been arrested and indicted.
“And yet they have not been…”
Correct. Why haven’t they been? That is the question.
Why hasn’t Rep. Jamal Bowman been charged and prosecuted for his crime?
Why wasn’t Michael Byrd charged and prosecuted for murder of an unarmed Air Force veteran?
Why hasn’t any FBI liar, or CIA liar, or DOJ liar, or Cabinet Secy liar, or FDA liar, or NIH liar, or CDC liar been prosecuted for lying under oath? Or prosecuted for contempt? Or prosecuted for any crime these lawless partisans have been relentlessly prosecuting Republicans for?
The Democrats are lawless criminals and thugs.
People see. The corruption has been exposed. It is far worse than anyone thought. We see it now. Thanks to Trump.
Democrat voters are too brainwashed and propagandized to even care. It’s truly pathetic how stupid, ignorant and misinformed most Progressives actually are. But hey, they’re Communists, what do you expect?
One big advantage in lawfare is when you have a thicket of laws going back to the colonies everyone brushes up against them at some point.
Then you pair that with a corrupt legal system and anyone you want can be indicted. This is all fun and games for lawyers, isn’t it?
Did you just say that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich?
You may have just coined an historic phrase.
That was not kosher!
Which Political Party doesn’t believe in a US border?
200,000 people a year are drying of drugs and suicide. The only time since Obama’s election in 2008 have these numbers dropped…was under Trump…Suicide FELL!
Democrats are the biggest drug and insanity pushers in the WORLD! The Democrat Party is backed by Soros, China, etc who wish to Destroy the USA from the INSIDE!
what crime did Trump commit? Trying to stop insane liberals from destroying America?
So that Russian Hoax Conspiracy…anyone go to jail for the BIGGEST crime in US history.
How about a poll on Hunter’s Laptop of crimes…what percent believe what the LYING DC establishment said?
Saying you think there is CHEATING…isn’t a CRIME…well UNLESS YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT Fascist
Republican HAVE TO STOP BEING the NICE GUY….THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of Democrats need to be JAILED
Remember Dinesh D’Souza was jailed for a $20k political donation. SBF of FTX donated about $100 Million…hmm? Soros, Zuckerberg, Cloomberg, etc fund democrats with a BILLION DOLLARS!
Why is Trump the only person in US history to be arrested for overvaluing real estate where the loan was approved by expert banks and the LOANS were paid back!
The RULE OF LAW is DEAD IN AMERICA. The DOJ, FBI, SEC, DC judges, any Democrat judge, IRS, DHS, EPA, CDC, etc are 100% corrupt for Democrats! so a SOROS back MORON BLACK DA can jail a President over a FEDERAL ELECTION?
“what crime did Trump commit?”
CrimeS (plural). Read his indictments.
“Why is Trump the only person in US history to be arrested for overvaluing real estate …”
He wasn’t arrested for that.
“BLACK DA can jail a President over a FEDERAL ELECTION?”
He hasn’t been jailed. He’ll likely be jailed if he’s found guilty.
Will the Secret Service be in a separate cell or permanently stationed outside President Trump’s jail cell?
In other words….Trump will not be jailed, imo.
However…..
The entire COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT PARTY must be destroyed. The Democrats are lying, thugs and criminals and all belong in prison.
And the filthy criminal sellout named Joseph R. Biden, Jr., should be tried for treason and hung in the public square for what he has done to this country.
Polls asking what you ‘believe’ are meaningless.
The exact same question will be explained a dozen different ways by a dozen different respondents. Meaning the respondents wont even agree on the focus of the question put before them.
I have several adult children. They are so busy raising their kids, the spend precious little time, doing deep dives on news of he day. Between work, children, and alone time, they just dont care. Lots of thier info comes from other parents and games, church, scouts ets. Parents talking to parents. The could not tell you what Trump has been charged with. But would probably agree he has committed crimes. The believe the govt is honest, and have not caught on all the lies the govt told, and is still telling regarding covid.
“It is an extraordinary political and legal moment where the two frontrunners for the presidency are believed to be criminal actors by the majority of voters.”
That’s false. If you click on the poll, you’ll see that a majority believe that Trump did something illegal but a minority believe that Joe Biden did something illegal: “40% think Joe Biden did something illegal in his son’s business dealings” Turley is relying on his readers not reading the poll and conflating beliefs about Hunter Biden vs. Joe Biden. Shame on him for not being honest with his readers.
There are two polls. The first one referenced in the article shows a majority of voters (68%) think Biden did something wrong. Maybe read the whole article before you accuse someone of dishonesty.
I know that there are two polls, and have read both, not just Turley’s articles about them. In NEITHER poll did a majority of the respondents say that Joe Biden committed crimes. So Turley’s claim that “the two frontrunners for the presidency are believed to be criminal actors by the majority of voters” is FALSE because a majority do NOT believe Joe Biden to be a “criminal actor.” Maybe YOU should read more carefully.
You must not understand MAGA at all if you think they will acknowledge facts that they are given the direct links to. You could tattoo facts onto their arm and they would still lie about what it says.
I think the public is smart enough to see the material differences between what Biden is alleged to have done and what Trump is alleged to have done. The 2024 election should reflect this difference in favor of the former president.
JJC,
Exactly.
I know I see the difference.
I also see and feel the difference between a Trump economy and a Biden economy.
I see and feel the difference between a Trump foreign policy and a Biden one.
I also see and feel the difference between a Trump economy and a Biden economy.
I see and feel the difference between a Trump foreign policy and a Biden one.
UpstateFarmer, you and JJC nailed it.
LOL…were the Germans and Italians smart enough to stop FAscism? What makes you think 3 month long elections with Ballot Mules is a Valid Election.
France banned mail in ballots in 1974 because too much CHEATING!
Voting 1 day, in person, with ID!
I don’t care if you vote, I care if you cheat!
If the Fox “Polls” were conducted by Frank Lutz, of course it will be a negative result for Trump. He hates him & so does Fox News. There is a mountain of evidence that Biden & son were and are criminals as well as traitors to this country.
I think Hannity and Trump are still pals.
Hannity is an idiot…paid talking head of liberal fox news. Fox is a parody
It’s a Fox poll. The Fox brass is virulently anti-Trump meaning this poll is highly suspect.