We recently discussed a poll showing that 68% of voters believe President Joe Biden acted either criminally or unethically in connection to the foreign dealings of his son, Hunter Biden. Now a Fox poll has found largely that same response — a majority believes that both Biden and former president Donald Trump have committed criminal acts. It is an extraordinary political and legal moment where the two frontrunners for the presidency are believed to be criminal actors by many voters.
The Fox polls show that 52% of voters believe Trump did something illegal in connection to efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents. Only 23% believe that Trump did not commit criminal acts. Obviously, the results are driven by the overwhelming view of Democrats (86%) but independents (53%) also think Trump did something illegal.
On the Bidens, 52% think Hunter Biden did something illegal in relation to his business dealings in Ukraine and China. That worsening situation is again driven on one side with Republicans. However, there was an 18% shift in independents that should worry the President. Some 40 percent believe that Joe Biden committed crimes. That is close to the 36 percent who shared that view in the earlier poll.
What is particularly notable is that 69 percent now believe that Joe Biden acted with criminally or unethically — virtually identical to the other poll.
As I wrote earlier, the most striking aspect of these polls is the disconnect with the mainstream media. Despite overwhelmingly protective coverage for the Bidens, the public is simply not buying it. While both the Democrats and the media have been unrelenting in opposing investigations into the Bidens, the public has long supported such efforts.
These consistent polls show that the public is tuning out the media spin on the corruption scandal involving the Bidens. It also shows (with both Trump and Biden) that the same roughly 25% remain constant for both candidates.
NB: The headline and two lines were changed to reflect that the view of Joe Biden as a criminal actor has increased but remains under 50 percent. However, 69% now view the President as acting either criminally or unethically.
The 20 fake businesses and the banking take is the evidence.
If joe biden and his mob of family criminals can’t show productive work for all the shell companies and can’t show the money he, his family, and even underage grandchildren got directly from the 20 shell companies is for valid work then he is guilty.
I have to say so far it appears exactly as above. None of the bidens or spokespersons have denied any of the shell companies and none have explained what work each has done. So right now it does look like guilty beyond doubt.
If he’s not guilty why hasn’t one of the hundreds of big shot backers and reporters explained to us how each company did valid work and joey didn’t get a dime and how the granddaughter or the 9 family members earned their keep of the 20-50 million dollars that are otherwise bribes ?
I’ve got to say the silence is damning. There hasn’t been a single explanation anywhere. It’s all quiet on the bribery front. So the evidence is already stark and completely convincing.
If the biden family wants me to believe they are innocent they sure are clammed up about it. Joe already lied about not knowing anything about Hunter’s business doings while also proclaiming he never got a dime, not dime one from China, and only Trump got money from China. Joe angrily said that in the debate, and we all know the base emotion is first fear then anger he might be exposed, and he was angry as he lied to everyone on the national debate stage.
Another poster claimed biden’s guilt is obvious, and of course some demoncrat squealed there is no evidence, but the evidence above alone is damning.
I can’t find any demoncrat reporter or otherwise explaining even in the simplest of terms what the 20 shell company services were or why the money went between them into the biden family accounts – not one explanation by anyone. One of the deposits went into a bank account Hunter had in Malta, which has been known for money laundering.
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Headline is wrong. Majority think Joe Biden acted unethically, but only 40% think he committed crimes.
If the left wing news would stop their nonstop lying, that number would be closer to 100% think Biden is a criminal.
But are they, Professor? Until voting behavior changes, this means jack and s***. And I seriously doubt liberal cowards are prepared to change their voting behavior. Sorry for being cynical, but prying fictitious notions of ‘liberalism’ from these folks’ minds is exactly and precisely that difficult. 2024 will likely be about like 2020. Again: ‘liberal’ voters are closed minded cowards who worship their status quo. They ain’t rockin’ that boat.
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Europe has an Islamic terror problem. Teacher murdered in France and two Swedish soccer fans murdered in Belgium within a few days.
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FORMER President Trump.
The DOJ has the constitutional power to challenge it, and it will be determined in court.
Trump claims the documents are declassified and are his personal papers, not, Presidential records.
Separation of powers means the Judicial branch has no jurisdiction. The court has zero power to challenge the declassification. Making is a mere document, that the President claims is his personal papers, not Presidential record. Again, the PRA list no superior power to the Presidents claim.
Trump hasn’t claimed it in court, so there’s nothing to challenge in court so far.
And as I’ve already pointed out to you multiple times, many of the records in question are agency records subject to the Federal Records Act, specifically excluded from being presidential records per the text of the PRA: 44 U.S. Code § 2201(2)(B)(i).
The are not presidential papers. They are his personal papers.
Trump has not asserted in court that any of the records are personal papers.
And agency records cannot be personal papers. The DOJ has noted that many of the records are agency records. Trump has not contested this.
Wait! You read the Constitution. Congratulations!
The PRA, 1978, is woefully unconstitutional.
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THE POWER – UTTERLY, CATEGORICALLY AND EXCLUSIVELY
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Article II, Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
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The President alone wields the executive branch power of classification, declassification, disposition and archiving of materials.
The legislative branch has no legal basis to usurp any aspect, facet or degree of the power of the executive branch.
No legislation usurping the power of the executive branch is constitutional.
No legislation usurping the power of the executive branch to classify, declassify, dispose of, and archive material is constitutional.
It is an extraordinary political and legal moment where the two frontrunners for the presidency are believed to be criminal actors by many voters.
It matters little what voters believe consider they too are in criminal decline on a physical, moral, spiritual and mental axis. Americans have given up. They believe they are vanquished (albeit by their own hand). They no longer have a will to fight, reach for greater heights, nor survive. The trajectory started at least since 2008 when Barack Hussein Obama launched missiles at the minds and hearts of America. To wit, published yesterday by the American Diabetes Association journal Diabetes Care:
Among US adults with diabetes, …from 2008 to 2019, overall trends in preventive services among these adults were flat except for an increase in influenza vaccination (average annual percent change: 2.6%)
Wittman JT, Bullard KM, Benoit SR. Trends in Preventive Care Services Among U.S. Adults With Diagnosed Diabetes, 2008-2020. Diabetes Care. 2023 Oct 16:dc231119. doi: 10.2337/dc23-1119.
The above study results are ominous. This for a country which swims in medical resources.
Fertility rates have been declining for decades, killing of unwanted babies and the elderly have become celebrated as virtuous acts, children’s bodies are mutilated and/or hormonal axis thwarted for ideological dogmas, close-knit marriages and families are the exception, violent crime rates have soared since 2020, as have mental illness, suicide, drug addiction, public education dysfunction, and Marxist brainwashing. Americans are killing themselves.
The polls or election of political candidates have proven to be utterly meaningless for the health and future of America. Memento mori
If the standard of justice that has been applied to Trump was applied to Biden. The Country would want Biden executed for treason against our Country.
Hung with fine American hemp rope.
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“The Supreme Court on Monday allowed the Biden administration to continue regulating so-called ghost guns – untraceable homemade weapons – as firearms under federal law.”
– CNN
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The premise about the status of “ghost guns” is absurd.
All guns are “ghost guns,” as the Constitution does not require or allow for the traceability of guns or arms.
Traceability, registration, etc., infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.
Where in the Constitution does it state that the Supreme Court may ignore and/or amend the 2nd Amendment?
No power to regulate guns is enumerated in Article 1, Section 8.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It’s a PROPERTY RIGHTS issue! Who on their right mind will argue “We the people” don’t have the INALIENABLE RIGHT to own property? Hey Camela, do u own a car? Is a car property? Is a gun property? The PROPERTY RIGHTS issue COMBINED with the 2nd Amendment makes an indefensible position for the anti gun morons. The Dementedrats don’t get to defend themselves or buy any more gas. Howz that for turning the tables?!
trump is a criminal. President Biden ins not a criminal.
Wally is impartial and able to discern truth; Wally’s on the jury.
Hey Wally, ever heard or seen the word “evidence”? Given you’ve convicted, you must have some other than “cuz I said so”, which would have worked during the reign of Fat Henry VIII, but this is 2023, so produce it your honor. As for Bye Done, just follow the $$$ and it’ll lead to a noose made of fine American hemp rope. Did you smile and waive when the Chinese balloon passed over your house? That’s TRAITOR spelled, J-O-E B-I-D-E-N
Jonathan: In all your concentration on the polls you missed the continuing chaos over in the MAG House. Today the House held a vote on a new Speaker. Jim Jordan got only 200 votes. Hakeem Jeffries, the Dem leader, came away with 212 votes. Quite an embarrassment for the GOP.
No doubt Jordan’s allies in the House, as well as outside in right-wing media and DJT, will put intense pressure on the hold outs to changes their votes. If that doesn’t happen we can expect more gridlock in the GOP House. Talk about the gang that can’t shoot straight!
False equivalencies and typos. My daily dose of Jonathan Turley. Trump had the same right to have boxes of documents in his bathroom as Clinton had to have tapes in his sock drawer. And nobody even knows what Obama has because nobody has cared to raid his home at dawn. When Professor Turley can admit that, then maybe his dream (of magically getting rid of the awful guy he voted for and somehow ending up with someone other than the even more awful Kamala) might have a chance of coming true. This is not going to be painless, Professor. You are going to eventually have to admit you made a mistake. A big mistake that is costing all of us dearly. I don’t have kids, so my kids are not going to be drafted to go fight a war your boy is intentionally digging us into. But if I did have kids, especially kids of cannon fodder age, I would be thinking very seriously about my life choices right now. I suggest you do the same. Don’t expect the Republicans to carry the can and impeach anybody and thinking they have the power to indict “Biden” is pure fantasy. They couldn’t indict Genghis Khan. They’re too busy shooting themselves in the foot while it’s still in their mouth.
Talk about “false equivalencies”–the “tapes in (Clinton’s) sock drawer were courtesy copies of recordings from interviews by an author who was writing a presidential history book–THEY WERE NOT OFFICIAL PRESIDENTAL RECORDS at all, no matter how many times Trump and his media allies lie about these tapes in order to try to compare them to the classified documents Trump deliberately stole.
Gigi, read the judges ruling. You will realize how off base you are.
Obama had a huge office building paid for and staffed for him and his millions of records he stole with his merry band of traitors to sell to the highest foreign bidders with biden’s approval.
Same for all the other Presidents until Trump, they all got paid for storage facilities.
Trump was refused the same services.
Now we see the same demoncrat corrupt actions concerning Robert F Kennedy who is running for potus and denied secret service protection by the biden regime.
Watch out these a holes in charge now will have people in danger of being murdered right out openly in the public and not bat an eye.
Same way they allowed riots at Kavanaughs home, completely illegal but the demoncrats in power wanted it so they made sure it happened.
Watch out. They can get you killed with their political government crimes and no one will stop them.
Can someone explain why I have to keep re-liking comments here? This website has got awfully buggy lately. Maybe it’s time to hire a digital exterminator.
Jonathan: So it’s back to the polls–this time the Fox poll . But even there 75% think DJT did something “illegal” or something “wrong”. That, to me, is the more significant take away from the poll.
The problem for you is that polls don’t count. They don’t count when prosecutors make charging decisions. They don’t count when judges rule. And polls won’t count when the Jan. 6 case goes to trial, starting March 3, 2024, and the jury finally considers all the evidence. A decision is likely before the middle of the year. If DJT is convicted do you really think most voters will want to vote for a convicted felon over Joe Biden who will not be charged with any crime?
Well,
Most people have taken a huge hit in their pocketbooks and have watched retirement savings struggle and dwindle. There are wars and rumors of more wars. Love him or hate him, the 45th President was front and center. Little to no inflation, lower interest rates, and stability on the world front. The current President is AWOL other than for a few selected speeches when he is not home. What are the results? Like Forrest Gump when he jumped overboard, “Lieutenant Dan…That’s my boat.”
Did the French public accept the conviction of Alfred Dreyfuss?
I am sick of all the partisan boosheet. This is REALLY not the time for anyone to be trying to parse their movement forward based on the paradigms of 30 years ago, and that is exactly what idiot Republicans are doing. Idiot liberals have just gone full fascist, because they are mentally and creatively deficient in every meaningful way, they all sound like what you would expect from a four year-old, and that is that. Seriously, I hear things from my four year-old niece that make about as much sense, and I forgive her, because she four years old.
For Pete’s sake, acknowledge that we are in the 21st century, things are different, and act accordingly. All of these old school conservatives are pretty much guaranteeing we never move forward. You people are idiots, living in a fantasy land, and you are making things worse for all of us. Idiot Republicans: wake the eff up. The 80s have been over for decades, and we are not going back, too much has transpired since then, the least of which is our population numbers (my hometown has not doubled, but *tripled* in population since I was a kid). Believe in the Constitution, not your own personal, likely foolish bugaboos. Stop denying reality and present the solutions you know will work and leave your party bullsheet behind. A return to some kind of country song America ain’t gonna happen. That is dead. The world has changed, and though that doesn’t negate our Republic, modern Republicans are freaking idiots. Let the past go, it is gone. if you want to win elections, you had better, again, wake the eff up.
If you want to be progressive, than actually BE progressive, not millennial, ‘We decided that since now we are aware of it, we invented it.’, progressive. This is not rocket science. Wake. The. Eff. Up.
The bank was robbed. The money was stolen. It’s ova! Fuggedaboutit! Eff the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Karl Marx and “Crazy Abe” Lincoln’s “dictatorship of the hired help” holds dominion in America. Right, Comrade General Secretary Marx?
Alternatively:
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
– Declaration of Independence, 1776
SEVEN CRIMES A WEEK
“We all think of ourselves as law abiding citizens. According to a poll by onepoll.com, the average person commits around seven crimes per week. ‘Surely they must be talking about other people – I don’t break the law,’ you tell yourself. Remarkably, twenty percent (20%) of people surveyed don’t believe what they do is illegal because, ‘everyone else does it.’”
– McCready Law
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“Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”
– Lavrentiy Beria, Director of Soviet Secret Police
The problem is that the media has framed what businessman, private citizen Trump did as equal to the treason that the biden crime family has and is doing. They are not equal but the media wants you to think so. As a private business owner myself, I know what needs to be done to make a business work, but I took no oath of office to defend our nation and constitution as biden has done for decades, all the while ignoring that oath for his personal gains. Trump is surely not spotless but I doubt if, in the end, what he may have done is equal to treason to his fellow Americans.
Another Biden attack piece. Turley KNOWS that “unethical” and “illegal” are not synonymous, but the poll has lumped the two concepts together. Turley claims: “As I wrote earlier, the most striking aspect of these polls is the disconnect with the mainstream media. Despite overwhelmingly protective coverage for the Bidens, the public is simply not buying it.”
What IS the “public” BUYING when it comes to Biden? The lies put out by alt-right media who call Biden a “criminal”, even though there’s NO evidence that has been produced to date proving he did anything unethical, much less illegal? In fact, the evidence has proven so far that JOE Biden wasn’t involved in Hunter’s business. How or why should anyone believe Biden is a criminal without something resembling actual proof? Because alt right media knows that the disciples are not sophisticated and they have to have a counternarrative to set off the negative news about the actual crimes of Trump. They call themselves “news” media, but they are political propaganda. AND, they attack actual news media, accusing them of political bias–the very thing they, themselves, are guilty of. It’s not “overwhelmingly protective coverage” for REAL journalists NOT to jump on the “Biden Crime Family” bandwagon without there being any proof of JOE Biden having committed any crimes. Just how long now have Republicans been investigating? WHY haven’t they come up with proof? Probably because there isn’t any and they know it–but as long as they can keep milking the “Hunter Biden Scandal”, for pollitical attacks on JOE Biden to turn public opinion against him, they’ll keep on. If Biden was the crook Trump is, he’d have pardoned himself and Hunter a long time ago and be done with it.
When it comes to Trump, the evidence has always been out there for the public to view, such as his call to “fight like hell or you’re not going to have a country any more”, asking the Proud Boys to “stand down and stand by” his endless lies about having an ownership right to classified documents he stole and lies about returning them. But, Turley and his employer are paid to try to spin away these facts and to try to accuse Biden of criminal wrongdoing for documents he held, even though Turley knows that Biden never claimed to own them, that he directed an investigation to locate and return any classified documents and that, unlike Trump, he never flashed them around to show off to impress young female staffers.
The real question is why is there a single person on the left that does NOT grasp that the Biden’s are criminals ?
You have ranted and raved about conduct by Trump that most people grasp was both legal and ethical.
But we are WAY& past the point where anyone with a brain would try to claim Biden’s conduct was ethical.
And frankly there is way more than enough to convict Joe Biden of criminal conduct.
There is ZERO doubt that the Biden clan was SELLING influence – specifically that is selling public power. It is hard to imagine anything worse that a politician can do. We elect you and give you our power, public power, so that you will hopefully act in our best interests.
WE expect and it is perfectly legal for private actors to act in their own self interests. They are not vested with the power of the public.
Senator Biden was. Vice president Biden was. President Biden was.
Even Hillary was atleast smart enough to hide her corruption behind the facade of a charitable foundation.
The Bidens strategy is that of drug cartels – myriads of dummy shell corps – and they are not even smart enough to get original about the names.
There is a cure for TDS. Seek help and while you are at it, there are koolaid detox centers available for your addiction.
his endless lies about having an ownership right to classified documents he stole and lies about returning them.
I’ve asked you a dozen times and you always run away.
Name the person who has the constitutional power to challenge President Trumps claim.
I’m not Gigi, but I’ve answered your question more than once. You simply don’t like the answer.
Smith, by virtue of his DOJ position, has the constitutional power to challenge FORMER President Trump’s claim in court — whenever Trump actually claims it in court, which so far he hasn’t done. Trump is not President.
Considering the vast amounts of msm brainwashing to be anti-Trump and pro-Biden, I’d say these are excellent results for Trump. Most know the continuous assault against him has been complete malarkey.