Should Joe Biden Be Banned?

Below is my column in The Messenger on the view of diplomats in the Biden Administration that the President is spreading “misinformation.” My interest in the story is less the merits than the allegation. The President is facing the same allegation of ignoring fact and spreading disinformation that has resulted in thousands being banned or blacklisted on social media. The Biden Administration has pushed for such censorship in areas where doctors and pundits held opposing views on subjects ranging from Covid-19 to climate control. The question is whether Joe Biden himself should be banned under the standards promulgated by his own Administration.

Here is the column:

An internal State Department dissent memo was leaked this past week, opposing the Biden administration’s position on the war between Israel and Hamas. What was most notable about the memo is that some administration staffers accused President Joe Biden of “spreading misinformation.”

It was a moment of crushing irony for some of us who have written and testified against the Biden administration’s censorship efforts. The question is whether, under the administration’s own standards, President Biden should now be banned or blacklisted to protect what his administration has called our “cognitive infrastructure.”

For years, the administration and many Democrats in Congress have resisted every effort to expose the sprawling government censorship program that one federal judge described as an “Orwellian ‘Ministry of Truth.'” As I have written previously, it included grants to academic and third-party organizations to create a global system of blacklists and to pressure advertisers to withdraw support from conservative sites.

Most recently, a House Judiciary Committee report revealed another layer of this system, described as a “switchboarding” role for the censorship system by channeling demands for removal or bans from state and local officials. This switchboarding process was confirmed by Brian Scully of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), during prior court testimony. CISA’s director, Jen Easterly, previously declared the administration’s intent to extend its role over maintaining critical infrastructure to include “our cognitive infrastructure” and combating not just mis- and disinformation but also “malinformation,” which CISA describes as “based on fact, but used out of context to mislead, harm, or manipulate.”

As a result, over the last four years, researchers, politicians, and even satirical sites have been banned or blacklisted for offering dissenting views of COVID measures, climate change, gender identity or social justice, according to the House Judiciary report. No level of censorship seemed to be sufficient for President Biden, who once claimed that social media companies were “killing people” by not silencing more dissenting voices.

Now, though, President Biden himself is accused — by some in his own administration — of spreading misinformation and supporting war criminals.

The five-page State Department memo was signed by 100 State and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) employees and was accompanied by a social media post by a junior foreign affairs staffer, accusing Biden of being “complicit in genocide” in Gaza. The memo accuses Biden of “spreading misinformation,” citing his Oct. 10 speech supporting Israel, and accuses Israel of committing “war crimes and/or crimes against humanity under international law.” It also accuses Biden of ignoring facts — a classic justification for past administration demands to censor figures — on the number of Palestinian casualties.

Democrats face a nightmare of allegations of disinformation on both sides of the war and other issues. Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and numerous media outlets have been accused of spreading disinformation about Israel killing hundreds with an airstrike on a Gaza hospitalFormer CIA director Leon Panetta, in an interview on Fox News, stood by disproven claims about Russia faking Hunter Biden’s laptop.

There is, of course, not even a whisper (let alone a loud demand) for censorship or suspension of any of these figures or outlets, because that is not how the administration’s policies over “misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation” — what it terms “MDM” — work. The administration at one point insisted that it would police this “MDM space” to target views on a sweeping range of subjects, including racial justice and the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

So what will the Biden MDM space-rangers do with President Biden?

The obvious answer is, “Nothing.”

The administration can note that the memo’s view of war crimes is a minority position and a matter of opinion — although that hasn’t stopped others from being censored, particularly scientists involved in the COVID controversies, according to the House Judiciary report.

Indeed, under its own standards, CISA and other agencies may be confused who to censor. It has created standards so ill-defined that it is surrounded by actionable disinformation. For example, if the administration does not believe Israel is committing war crimes, should it push to censor its own dissenting diplomats?

The censors in the administration and at social media companies have always adopted vague standards that allowed them to pick and choose who should be heard or silenced. Former Twitter executive Anika Collier Navaroli called it a “nuanced” approach in determining how much free speech to allow; former CEO Parag Agrawal said that the “focus [is] less on thinking about free speech” because it is not on who should speak but “who can be heard.”

That leaves any potential censorship based on the ridiculous standard which Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart advanced for pornography in the case of Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964): “I shall not today attempt further to define [it] … But I know it when I see it.”

Thus, President Biden has no fear about his views being censored: His administration has always exhibited distinct myopia when it claims to know disinformation when it sees it.

Jonathan Turley, an attorney, constitutional law scholar and legal analyst, is the Shapiro Chair for Public Interest Law at The George Washington University Law School.

199 thoughts on “Should Joe Biden Be Banned?”

  1. Don’t you know, it’s only “misinformation” when it doesn’t further establishment goals.
    When it furthers establishment goals, they call t “hard-hitting investigative journalism” or at worst an “oopsies”.

    1. Did you notice that the Dimunist Fascist Left is not calling for a cease fire in Ukraine….Demented Joe and his corrupt bedfellows favorite money laundering scheme? It is all a circle jerk in a miasmic hot tub!

  2. No surveys, no property, no bills of sale, no deeds, no county records, no nation, no Philistine, no Palestine.

    Every nation has been acquired post creation.

    If “Palestinians” have the privilege and entitlement to confiscate Israel, the Indians have the same authority to confiscate America.

    And every nation on the planet is subject to reconveyance.

  3. “[F]ormer CEO Parag Agrawal said that the “focus [is] less on thinking about free speech” because it is not on who should speak but “who can be heard.”

    Mr. Agrawal’s knowledge of the First Amendment gets a flunking grade.

    “It is now well established that the Constitution protects the right to receive information and ideas. “This freedom [of speech and press] … necessarily protects the right to receive … .” Martin v. City of Struthers, 319 U. S. 141, 143 (1943); see Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U. S. 479, 482 (1965); Lamont v. Postmaster General, 381 U. S. 301, 307-308 (1965) (BRENNAN, J., concurring); cf. Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U. S. 510 (1925). This right to receive information and ideas, regardless of their social worth, see Winters v. New York, 333 U. S. 507, 510 (1948), is fundamental to our free society.”

    Stanley v. Georgia, 394 US 557, 565 (1969),

  4. Issue Has Nothing To Do With Censorship

    Today Turley’s column reads like it was written by the Blog Stooge. It’s that same furious cynicism laced with endless what-abouts.

    The issue here has nothing to do with censorship. It’s about the Biden Administration discovering that the days of unconditional support for Israel are gone and may never come back.

    We’re in a new century. People under 50 have no memory of the period when Israel was the mighty underdog bashing the heads of hostile neighbors. Instead Israel is now seen as subjecting millions of Palestinians to an apartheid system that is increasingly repugnant to the world community.

    It doesn’t help that Benjamin Netanyahu is a far-right, authoritarian-wannabe that most westerners would never consider voting for. And those of us following international news are aware that Netanyahu’s far-right government encouraged West Bank settlers to harass local Palestinians. Those incidents were widely reported, for months, in the run-up to October 7.

    From a media standpoint, the optics look terrible when a modern, well-equipped army invades an urban strip of 2 million people and destroys everything in sight while civilians cower in terror.

    Never mind that Hamas started it!
    That is point is already lost to most of the world. Israel has responded exactly as Hamas hoped, fighting as though Palestinian lives have no value at all. Furthermore, the endgame here is more than a little hazy. What happens AFTER Gaza is totally destroyed???

    But instead of addressing all these issues, Professor Turley thought he could twist them into a poisonous rant where Biden is pushing ‘misinformation’. In choosing to go this route, Turley abandons has status as an academic to lash-out at ‘whoever’. A totally disgruntled professor wanting to tear-down everything.

    1. Turley will never address the issues you you nicely present. To do so would risk his “audience capture.” In whatever way he presented them (even in a neutral fashion) he would risk loosing readers since this is an issue no one is capable of threading the needle fairly without facing immense backlash. In most cases,Turley likes to hide behind a facade of pseudo intellectualism without ever taking a firm position (even if that firm position is simply that the issue is too complex to take sides) — you can see that in everything he writes. At the end of the day he is always aware of the predominant views of his audience and seldom takes a stand that would offend them.

    2. “We’re in a new century.”

      That is tragically true. As we can see in the streets and universities, it’s a century of ignorant, useful idiots who support Islamic terrorism (Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran). It’s a century of the mindless who use childish appeals to pity to undermine Israel’s right to defend itself.

  5. Biden’s vermin problem: the Deep State revolt against Brandon

    Parts of the deep state, to borrow a phrase, are revolting in opposition to his support for Israel against the Hamas terrorists responsible for the Oct. 7 massacre.

    News reports say that no fewer than 500 appointees and staff from 40 agencies, including the National Security Council and the Justice Department, have sent Mr. Biden a letter demanding that he call for a cease-fire and “de-escalation” between Israel and Hamas: “Americans do not want the U.S. military to be drawn into another costly and senseless war in the Middle East.” The signatories are bravely anonymous.

    The same is true of more than 1,000 employees at the U.S. Agency for International Development, who have reportedly signed a similar letter. “We believe,” it says, “that further catastrophic loss of human life can only be avoided if the United States Government calls for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.” The letter adds that its backers are withholding their names out of “concern for our personal safety and risk of potentially losing our jobs.”

    If democracy means anything, perhaps they should lose their jobs or, better yet, they should resign honorably if they can no longer support the boss’s agenda. The malcontents are a sliver of the federal workforce. Yet the job of the executive branch is to implement a President’s policies, not run a pressure campaign to change them via anonymous letters and leaks.

    1. Members of the government, and/or the “deep state” (those unelected bureaucrats) have lost the reason for their existence, as has Joe Biden. No more servant leadership, no more “we work for the taxpayers/citizens.” We will have to stop paying them to get their attention. All taxpayers should refuse to pay their taxes until all of these useless traitors are gone. Which will be never. We are so screwed by what we’ve allowed to develop in our country.

  6. What is it about Democrats that they hate Jews, decapitate babies, remove the breasts and gonads of girls and boys, groom kids and target blacks for genocide? Why can’t Democrats break from their KKK past?

    California Professor Arrested on Manslaughter Charges in Pro-Israel Demonstrator’s Death

    Loay Alnaji, a computer science professor at Ventura County Community College, was arrested Thursday morning and charged with involuntary manslaughter after he was involved in a deadly confrontation with pro-Israel demonstrator Paul Kessler.

    In early November, Kessler died of his wounds following “a physical altercation with counter-protestor(s),” in Los Angeles, the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department said in a statement afterward. “During the altercation, Kessler fell backward and struck his head on the ground. The Ventura County Medical Examiner’s Office determined the cause of death to be blunt force head injury and the manner of death homicide,” the statement continued.

    At the time of the incident, an unnamed suspect, since identified Alnaji, was detained by police as law enforcement conducted a home search before releasing the suspect on his own accord. Ventura County sheriff Jim Fryhoff told reporters shortly after that Alnaji was cooperative with authorities, though police refrained from publicly disclosing his name until a more thorough investigation was conducted.

    The Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles issued a statement in response to Kessler’s death, insisting that he was assaulted with a megaphone by a pro-Palestinian protester.

    1. “What is it about Democrats that they hate Jews, decapitate babies, remove the breasts and gonads of girls and boys, groom kids and target blacks for genocide? Why can’t Democrats break from their KKK past?”

      An interesting question. But that coin has a flip side. And one could ask the same of the fanatical supporters of Zionist terror autocracies at the time of the Haganah and since.

      “Assassinations, Terror Attacks and Even Castration – the Hidden Actions of Israel’s Pre-state Militia”
      By Ofer Aderet, Haaretz June 13, 2020
      “This month marks the 100th anniversary of the formation of the forerunner of the Israeli army. While the Haganah boasts of its heroic acts and looks down on similar right-wing groups, its history also includes dark operations it would prefer not to mention”

      Also this: which provides some important historical backdrop to the Haganah.

      “Massacres as a weapon of ethnic cleansing during the Nakba”
      By Salman Abu Sitta, Mondoweiss June 12, 2020
      “From April 1st to May 14, 1948 — before Israel was declared, before the British left, and before any Arab soldier entered Palestine to save it — Zionist militias essentially conquered Palestine.”

    2. “What is it about Democrats that they hate Jews, decapitate babies, remove the breasts and gonads of girls and boys, groom kids and target blacks for genocide? Why can’t Democrats break from their KKK past?”
      Kinda comes with their demon upbringing. Some people think Milton’s “Paradise Lost” is fiction. I’m not so sure. “Kill ’em All Biden” sure reminds me of Moloch. And that Kardashian babe is a dead ringer for “Sin.”

    3. Why did it take weeks to arrest the guy that many witnesses saw hit the victim in the head and kill him? If this wasn’t a protected class of perp he would have been arrested so fast his head would have been spinning.

  7. Off topic, I know, but the David DePape verdict today merits discussion. A jury has rejected the defense strategy that team Trump has been banking on using (for GA and J6 trials): “You’re free to believe what you want to believe, and what scarce freedom does that signify if you cannot then act on your beliefs?”

    DePape testified that he was swept up consuming infowarfare and conspiracy theories, and became convinced that Nancy Pelosi and many others were secretly plotting to destroy America. (You hear this same paranoid, speculative oppo-branding spoken all day long on FNC and podcasts).

    The jury didn’t buy DePape’s defense that he thought at the time he was doing right by the country (to kidnap a Constitutional Officer, and pulverize her kneecaps unless she confessed). This verdict is a sober dose of reality for the chastened DePape, and the anarchist-malcontent tech-savvy zealots who fed his inbox and browser with clever psyOps. And, to DC insiders like Antony Blinken & Mike Morell, I convey the exact same warning: We the still-hinged and sober-minded citizens are seriously looking for a Constitutionally-sound way to shut your knowing, conniving falsehoods out of the political infospace. It would likely be based on suing you in civil court for Public Frauds — trusting juries as finders-of-fact — and recognizing Courts with their evolved evidentiary rules (including subpoena) are the place where artful fabrications go to die.

    Team Trump beware — juries are not likely to buy into your absurd extrapolations of “free speech”. And, to the info-warfare-zealots out there, we’re fixing to reign in your willful gaming of the truth — by imposing civil liability.

    1. DePape is a Nut Job and regardless of whatever claims you are making or were made to the Jury he is a LEFT wing nut job.

      I do not for 10seconds beleive that DePape was swept up by inforwars, I doeubt there is evidence he had a clue who Alex Jones was before this trial.

      Regardless, he has very serious mental health issues and has for a LONG LONG time. He is also a long term drug addict. He is or was very nearly homeless – living out of a bus.

      And finally to ice the cake he is in San Franciso.

      And you REALLY want the rest of us to believe he is right wing nut job ?

      There are few if any republicans in SF at all.

      Finally trying DePape is proof that those of you on the left do not beleive yourselves.

      DePape is not fit to stand trial. Yet for your political benefit he was forced to.

      There is no connection between DePape and Trump or GA or conservatives of republicans.

      There are LOTS of connections between DePape and the entire failed left wing nut world that he lived in in SF.

      Regardless, sacrifice mentallly ill left wing nuts to attempt to make a point that no person capable of critical thinking will buy.

      1. I’m just summarizing what DePape testified to in Court. The way you processed my post reveals much about your incoherent, zealous-defensive thought process. For example:

        pbinCA: “DePape testified that he was swept up consuming infowarfare and conspiracy theories, and became convinced that Nancy Pelosi and many others were secretly plotting to destroy America”

        JohnSay: “DePape is a Nut Job and regardless of whatever claims you (pbinCA) are making or were made to the Jury he is a LEFT wing nut job.”

        I didn’t claim anything about DePape’s politics. I let him speak for himself.

        Let me just say respectfully….good discussions are ruined when oppo-branding sets in.

        1. PbinCA: “DePape testified that he was swept up consuming infowarfare and conspiracy theories, and became convinced that Nancy Pelosi and many others were secretly plotting to destroy America.”

          PbinCA, drawing such conclusions from deranged persons, is the tactic used by those without the ability to think critically.

          I don’t wish to label you in that fashion. In the distant past, I dealt with a person who believed Rockefeller was sitting on his toilet with FDR in the bathtub. That individual ended up in a mental institution, but before he did, he made all sorts of political comments. Are you saying I should have believed what he said?

        2. “You hear this same paranoid, speculative oppo-branding spoken all day long on FNC “

          “Let me just say respectfully….good discussions are ruined when oppo-branding sets in.”

          LMAO at the utter lack of self awareness.

    2. It is likely the Willis case – and possibly even Smith’s case will not even make it to trial.

      A different case will go to trial in GA starting in Decemeber.
      In that case Raffensberger is the DEFENDANT and the allegations are that Raffensberger has corrupted the GA election process as far back as 2017. At issue is failures to properly certify electronic voting machines for SEVERAL ELECTIONS.
      And gross failure to follow GA law regarding signature vertification.

      Raffensberger tried to get the case dismissed. The Judge issued a 170+ page opinion citing the evidence rejecting Raffensberger’s motion and
      allowing trial to start in January.

      So immediately preceding the Trump cae – if the Trump case even manages to go forward will be the State of GA and specifically Raffnsberger getting the pants pulled down in public over failure to follow GA election law and failure to protect the integrity of the GA elections.
      Not for 2020, but for every GA election since 2017.

      The plantiffs in this case do not need to win to end the case against Trump.

      All they have to do is expose the serious problems with elections in GA.

      But it is near certain they will win on Signature verification atleast – I am not familiar with the details regarding problems with the voting equipment in GA. Only that Raffensberger refused to impliment a system of random audits to ensure the integrity of electronic voting machines, that I beleive was required by GA law.

      With respect to Signature verification – GA requires two factor authentication of all absentee ballots. That means an actual signature match which GA did not do, as well as either a Drivers liscence or SS# which GA did not do.

      A post 2020 random audit of mailin ballots in Cobb county – not the county Trump asked for an audit of,
      Found that 6% of ballots did not match the relaxed standards that Raffensberger imposed by fiat in 2020 – likely far more would not have met the actual standard of GA law. and 0.6% of the mailing ballots audited were refered to GBI as likely fraud.
      Trump lost GA by 0.26% of less than half of the fraud rate from the random audit.

      This random audit was small – only 5000 ballots. It also was conducted in an afluent Democratic county where the likelyhood of ballot Fraud was small. No one has been claiming that election results from Cobb County are suspect. The epicenter of GA fraud is Fulton county – Atlanta.

      After the results from Cobb County Raffensberger refused to conduct additional audits. God forbid that the Cobb county results were repeated successfully – Trump would have a credible claim that the election was stolen. Worse still and audit of Fulton county could have exposed much larger actual election fraud.

      Before it was shutdown because problems with the Fulton County count were surfacing, The third party lawsuit in GA was finding hundreds of duplicate ballots scans that were counted. But as the evidence of serious problems in Fulton county mounted the democrat judge reversed himself and decided the plantiffs did not have standing.

      I beleive at this time it is no longer possible to conduct further examination of the 2020 election as the records were all destroyed before the 2022 election.

      I do not know the details of this particular case – but it likely has the support of GA republicans and the legislature – as Willis is going after more than Trump, she is after many important GA republicans, and it is in their interest to end Willis.
      GA Republicans have been reluctant to end Willis’s witch hunt by Fiat – which they have the power to do.

      But I am sure that they will be happy to do so by destroying her case. Especially as she is not only targeting Trump, but targeting many of them.

      Raffensberger is not especially popular with Republicans in GA.
      And Kemp has been playing a very delicate balancing game.
      GA today is a purple state. He needs both the support of Trump, and the support of moderates to win.

      Kemp has been striving to distance himself from Trump, while at the same time disempowering the left wing nuts in GA.

    3. He was probably traumatized by the Trump-Putin Collusion Hoax and the Hunter Biden Laptop Hoax (“It was the Russians”). Stuff like that for 5-6 years straight will imbalance anyone.

      1. No…a competent leader will not go all “unbalanced”, but rather will address aberrant things like Hurricane Crossfire and the Blinken-Morell Laptop false-narrative as areas where the law needs to be improved, so that these games are made unpalatable to play in the future. Trump is all about himself and his image and your loyalty to him — he doesn’t think about improving the systems we live under going into the future.

        1. “Trump is all about himself and his image and your loyalty to him — he doesn’t think about improving the systems we live under going into the future.”

          PbinCA, Trump is probably narcissistic, but you act as if he didn’t do a lot of good things. He did many things that helped all Americans, especially minorities. Why you indicated differently is the question we likely will never get an answer to. You wanted Trump to respond to the criminality of the left ” as areas where the law needs to be improved.” Do you realize how silly that sounds?

          The DOJ was weaponized and acted in a lawless fashion. You are upset that Trump got angry. We all should be angry at such criminality and the fact that the left refuses to look into the criminality of the leaders of the Democrat Party.

  8. Jonathan: For a long time you have claimed ANTIFA is one of the “most violent” groups in the country and in the “age of rage” the Dems and the “radical left” are to blame. Hard to make that claim now. David DePape, a DJT supporter, was just found guilty in federal court of attacking Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul Pelosi, in the couple’s SF home. DePape was prompted to act because of DJT constant barrage of attacks on Speaker Pelosi. Violence is now acceptable for those in DJT’s orbit. And he encourages it.

    And when it comes to “corruption” you won’t find it in the Biden family. You’ll find in the House of Representatives. George Santos, the poster child for “corruption” along with Sen. Menendez, has just announced he will not run for re-election. This comes after after a House Ethics Committee found Santos had committed a number of crimes. But the House Republicans won’t expel Santos. That’s because Speaker Mike Johnson needs every vote he can get. Talk about duplicity!

    1. Nice try, Denny-poo, but that dog won’t hunt. DePape did what he did because he was a weird nudist looney tune whose cheese had slipped off the cracker a long while ago.

      1. IF Turley did not on some level recognize that the dog whistles of violence from iDJiT45 are not heeded as bullhorns, and marching orders by his followers. than kindly explain why Turley himself felt compelled to issue a statement that attempts to perform a “citizens arrest” on Judge Engoron and DA Leticia James could and would result in felonies” In other words yes even Turley recognizes just how dangerous trumps rhetoric is.

        1. That’s it? That’s how you connect Trump’s rhetoric to DePape’s mindstate? Does the phrase post hoc ergo propter hoc mean anything to you?

          Just because some pathetic has-been like David Jolly says so, doesn’t mean it’s true.

    2. For a long time you have claimed ANTIFA is one of the “most violent” groups in the country

      Look retard. Nobody believes your inane attempts to smear Prof Turley.

      The Good proof has never made that statement, let alone, repeat it.

    3. DePape is not a Trump supporter.
      This is lunacy.
      There probably is not a singe Trump supporter in San Franciso.

      DePape is a mentally unhealthy long term drug addict who mostly hold left wing nut views.

      At the time of his attack on Paul Pelosi he was flying an LGBTQ+ flag from his bus, and had a large BLM sign beside it.

      While I am pointing out that the claim that DePape is a Trump supporter is lunacy.

      What is more important is that DePape is mentally unhealthy and a long term drug addict.
      He never should have stood trial. He is not competent to be tried.

      The vast majority of allegedly political violence – especially that eroneously attributed to the right.
      in particular mass shooters, is from people with serious mental health problems.

      These are people who are going to glom onto something as a cause.
      Jared Lee Loughner who shot Rep. Giffords was motivated by extremist views on Grammar.
      Ted Kazinsky had a very weird environmentalist motivation.
      The El Paso Shooter was a bizarre mix of xenophobia and eco terrorist.
      The colorado school shooter was Trans.
      The Nashville school shooter was Trans and had an excrable left wing nut manifesto.

      Joseph Stack had a bizarre mix of right and left views.
      The Bus stabber who murdered two people and injured a third shortly after Trump took office and was alleged to a pro trump hate crime, turned out to be a Bernie bro. But mostly he was a dunk, drug addict with serious mental health problems.

      There are lots and lots of heinous crimes – DePape being relatively minor among them, committed by peoplewith serious mental health problems
      That are nothing more than a reflection that some people with some mental health issues do crazy things.
      Often they cite, left, right, or just strange motivations.
      Most of us do NOT try to pretend that the voices they hear in their heads are in some way tied to real world politics.

      I am not aware of an actual allegedly politically motivated crime by someone on the right that did not ultimately prove to be seriously mentially ill.
      and rarely if ever with a clear coherent political motivation that was not obviosuly warped and boroowing from everywhere.

      But if you wish to attribute the bad acts of mentally unhealthy people that spout right wing nonsense to the right – then you are obligagted to do the same when they spout left wing nut nonsense – regardless DePape is one of YOUR not jobs.

      While there is noevidence at all of actual right wing motivated violence outside those who are mentally unhealthy.

      There is LOTS of left wing motivated political violence – even ORGANIZED left wing motivated political violence.

      The KKK and white supremecists groups have not engaged in political violence since the 70’s.

      Violence from neo-nazis today is domestic violence or conflicts between gangs over drugs or power.

      Conversely Antifa OPENLY espouses political violence.

      BLM does not espouse violence – but violence follows them where ever they go.

      There was over $2B in damage from BLM riots in 2020. There were dozens od people murdered – including police, and far more civilians.
      These as not crimes by drug adicts, alcoholics, the homeless, mentally ill people.

      These are deliberate crimes committed by people with political intentions.
      These are the modern equivalents of the Weather underground.

      More recently a hate crimes targeting Jews have increased 400%. Prior to that hate crimes targeting jews represented a plurality of all hate crimes. Now they are the majority by far. I beleive those targeting Asians are the next more common. Those targeting Blacks, gays. trans, are not only down, but the rate of violent crime involving trans people is 1/2 that of the nation as a whole. Despite propoganda Trans people today are SAFER than the rest of us.

      And who is committing these hate crimes ? The recent murder of a jew at the Gal Godot screening was by a college professor.
      There are no extreme right college professors. In fact a significant portion of hate crimes today are committed by minority college professors.

      While hate crimes – particularly those targeting jews have been on the rise – so has hate crime Fraud – think Jusse Smolet – only far more than that. Again these frauds are nearly always committed by left wing nut minorities.

      I am not aware of a single swastika or Noose over the past decade that was not either a fraud or perpitrated by those on the left.

      Go ahead try to prove me wrong – if you mange to find one, you will merely proove my point.
      Actual political violence perpitrated by the right is extremely rare.

      I am not aware of a single political hoax, or hate crime hoax ever perpitrated by the right.
      There is no right wing Jusse Smolet. But there are dozens of left wing nuts who have been caught faking right wing political violence.

      There is no right wing equivalent of Hillary Clinton’s Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax.

      More recently we have the left wing media reporting authoritatively form alleged sources in the Trump campaign – you know – MAGA republicans like Adam Schiff claiming Trump is going to send his political enemies to concentration camps.

      The only concentration camps ever i the US were those FDR – a democrat.
      Trump has said nothing about putting political opponents in camps.
      HOWEVER Hillary did publicly state that MAMGA republicns needed to be sent to re-education camps.

      As with DePape – you are engaged in confession through projection.

      The only people in politics who actually do the things you accuse those on the right of, are those on the left.

      There is no republican antifa. Despite the arrest of thousands associated with J6 and the political star chamber convictions
      You have yet to prove that anyone came to the Capitol on J6 intent on initiating violence.

      The Proud Boys is infamous for showing up where Antifa and the left is – providing protection for those they attack, and waiting for Antifa to throw the first punch and then obliterating them. You can deride that. But it does not come near Antifa.
      And most importantly the Proud Boys do not intentionally or otherwise initiate violence.

      In your star chamber show trials much like those of the USSR, you proved that people Planned – conspired to come to DC, the Capitol.
      To protest the certification. That they came with the hope but no expectation that Congress would do as they asked.
      That they came without arms.

      There is lots of video of those like Ray Epps actually exhorting the crowds to violence.
      And the crowds responding ? Fed, Fed, Fed! It is still unclear whether Epps was an FBI informant – though it seems likely.
      The FBI is still refusing to admit the number of FBI agents operatives and informants at J6 – but we are well past denying they were present.
      There is even body cam video from the CP of encouters with under cover Feds confirming their presence.

      There are about half a dozen people who were at the capitol who either actually incited violence, clearly had guns or who removed barriers prior to the protest. None of these have been arrested or prosecuted.

      If they were part of Trump world – if they were Trump’s whitehous pratorian guard you would think that Jack Smith or the DC AG’s would have identified these people connected them to Trump and gotten EXACTLY what they need to prosecute Trump and to assure that he is never elected.

      There is no one in Trump world that will stand beside Trump if you establish that Trump actually conspired with any group – feds or otherwise to
      actually incite violence on J6 and then left his supporters high and dry.

      Whether you like it or not the strength of Trump’s support is rooted in the fact that his supporters can TRUST him.

      One of the reasons that Biden’s polls are tanking is because the democratic party is divided over Israel and Biden is trying to play both sides.
      His young pro-hamas supporters are learning that Biden can not be trusted. We are all fortunate that is the case. Regardless. They may not vote for Trump, but they will not vote for Biden, they feel betrayed. Arguably they are actually retarded.

      Regardless the point is that J6 does not work for you – atleast not outside left wing nut true beleivers.

    4. George Santos is the poster child for corruption ? Really ?

      If every single claim about Santos is true, he is STILL completely inconsequential.

      Do you think before you post.

      I have no idea if Santos has done what he is accused of.

      I do know that if he has that would make him an ordinary congressmen with less than the average ability to coverup.

    5. So, by your logic, MSNBC, et alia, are responsible for the near assassinations of Steve Scalise and Brett Kavanaugh. You must be responsible too. All those dog whistles.

    6. “Hard to make that claim now. “

      Seriously nincompoop, you base that on the case of Pelosi’s jilted lover??

      You do know thats all a lie, right? de pape was there to collect payment for the road head he was giving pelosi in his porsche. Thats why the passenger airbag deployed fyi.

      Why dont you ask Steve Scalise if he can still make the claim.

  9. The question that’s been tossed about today about truth is unanswerable, it is no more than supposition if argued that it’s factual or not. Kurt Godel’s Completeness Theorem may supply some light: ‘Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete: there are statement of language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved F’. Or said another way: ‘Every valid logical expression is provable. Equivalently, every logical expression is either satisfiable or refutable’. This same quandary may also be applied to the dilemma that has been wrapped around President Trump. Are not both President Biden and Trump in the same boat sailing in troubled waters of factual truthfulness?

    1. It’s the same ship of state sailing over deeply troubled waters. Biden and Trump control the rudder .. . and can only plot a course.

      The question remains whether the hurricane seas of ‘factual truthfulness’ we are presently sailing is the result of their seamanship, or due to the unavoidable winds of change? Blown off course?

      *Turley often laments this quandary, e.g., ‘is the media covering for Biden, or Biden covering for the media?’

      1. What is happening with Biden’s State Department is the same that happened to Trump’s. It is the governing by the “Vindman policy”. Which means that the State Department sets foreign policy and not the President of the country. Biden shouldn’t go against the State Department. Biden should do as he is told if he knows what is good for him and his family. As someone once said, they they have “six ways to Sunday” to go after you if a politician or appointee does not fall in line with their wishes. For instance, that classified document case may just not go away after all should Biden not do as he is told.

    2. Human communication is not a formal system of the type analyzed by Godel. It is an open-ended, sensory-grounded system that permits questions to be posed, theories to be tested, and truth to be sought after. It has gotten mankind up from the cave and the swamp to master of the planet, without the need for ontological certainty of the type logicians have shown to be sellf-contradictory. The challenge all along has been overcoming superstitions, biases, false assumptions, and outright deceptions. A pinnacle of standards-based-journalism was achieved circa 1990, coinciding with the widespread collapse of propaganda-supported dictatorships.

      Shortly thereafter, the wild jettisoning of those standards so that “anyone can publish” (client-server tech, social media) has thrown mankind backwards into a boiling cauldron of zealotry, faction-formation, and fast-paced deceitful infowarfare. The techno-idiots who facilitated this massive disruption the infospace still cannot take responsibility to fix the problem, because they are weak in history and government. They are irresponsible libertarians and moral midgets.

      1. It is not the “anyone can publish” evolution that has resulted in the collapose of journalistic standards.
        In fact it is the OPPOSITE – and frankly that should have been predictable to you by the way markets work.

        Journalism like every other product requires two things – it must meet a need in those who buy, and it must be trusted by those who buy.

        If those criteria are met by the MSM the “anyone can publish folks will fail.

        While the market place outside of the msm is filled with participants both trustwortthy and charlatans.
        As with everyhting in a free market – those without trust do not last.

        Further the best journalists today – those with the greatest integrity are those that left or were driven out of the MSM and have proven successful as independents today – something not possible decades ago.

        These are the Matt Taibbi’s the Barri Weis’s, the Glenn Greenwalds, and many may many more.

        Their success is based on deliverying what people need and can trust.

        That is how markets work.

        I would separately note that things like “anyone can publish” do not happen, unless the needs of the market are not being met by those already in it.

    3. Where is the Trump equivalent of “the collusion delusion” – a hoax foist on the country by Hillary ?

      Where is the Trump equivalent of “Its all a right wing conspiracy and russian disinformation” – Biden’s claims regarding his corruption and the Laptop from hell ?

      Trump is not the one telling people the economy is good when it sucks.

      Trump is not the one saying the southern border is secure when it is not.

      Trump is not the one so well respected by foreign leaders that war breaks out all over the place.

      There are lots of problems with Trump.
      But there is nothing within a universe of parity with Biden.

    4. George W —- That is Godel”s Incompleteness Theorem. ‘Not every valid logical expression in F is provable.’

  10. How does the State Department know the number of causalities? Is there someone on the ground in Israel separating bodies and counting? Answer: no, it’s all fiction and bs.

  11. 𝐋𝐚𝐬𝐭 𝐘𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝟏𝟐,𝟎𝟎𝟎 𝐋𝐨𝐛𝐛𝐲𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐬 𝐖𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐖𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐄𝐚𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐚 𝐁𝐚𝐧𝐤𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐟 $𝟒.𝟏 𝐁𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧; 𝐅𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐲

    Yesterday, five U.S. Senators who are members of the Senate Banking Committee issued a letter to Gary Gensler, the Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), demanding that he issue a rule that would force publicly-traded companies to disclose the dollar amount of their lobbying expenditures as well as the issues they are lobbying for or against.

    The authors of the letter were: U.S. Senators Elizabeth Warren, (D-Mass.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Jon Tester (D-Mont.), Tina Smith (D-Minn.), and John Fetterman (D-Pa.).

    By: Pam Martens and Russ Martens ~ November 16, 2023

    [PDF LINK]

    1. This is very similar to an idea going back 20 years….that all advocacy directed at government be denied privacy and instead be forced into the public domain. This is a powerful way to blunt corruption, and it’s completely consistent with the 1st Amendment since the speech is not being blocked, only the ability to keep the public from hearing it.

      1. Notice that only Democrats are calling for transparency violence.

        yes, everyone knows that Democrats = violence. Tell us something we dont know already.

        Tell your handlers they need to send better trolls

      2. Notice that Democrats believe they own the institutions and agencies of govt.

        As is being well demonstrated, A duel system of enforcement is really handy for controlling people. CEO’s will capitulate, or this law will take them down. Good corporations, that make regular protections payments to the DNC mob family, will happily go about their in secret lobbying programs.

        A real question. Under what power does the SEC issue this rule? Citizens United still controls.

        Also, all these 5 yahoos can do is write legislation and attempt to make it into a law. Congress has no power over the Executive Branch.

  12. I Present two quotes from the TFP article, “Why I Am Now a Christian” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who was raised as a Muslim by the Muslim Brotherhood. [Note, the MB is a terrorist organization and stands side by side with Hamas and the terrorists of 9/11, as do people like Dennis and many leftists who are atheists.]

    She says, “Russell and other activist atheists believed that with the rejection of God, we would enter an age of reason and intelligent humanism. But the “God hole”—the void left by the retreat of the church—has merely been filled by a jumble of irrational, quasi-religious dogma. The result is a world where modern cults prey on the dislocated masses, offering them spurious reasons for being and action—mostly by engaging in virtue-signaling theater on behalf of a victimized minority or our supposedly doomed planet. The line often attributed to G.K. Chesterton has turned into a prophecy: “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

    When people *like* Dennis believe in nothing, they become fools who cannot discern right from wrong.

    Thus, fools like Dennis sympathize with those who wish “to destroy the West from the inside” [MB Holy Land trial and the MB Declaration,]

    The former and the following quote pertain to the support Dennis gives to those who wish to destroy us and have adopted the culture of death. They will blow themselves up to kill children on a school bus. They will murder women and children and film how they torture them while these murderers laugh and cheer. That is what you are, Dennis.

    “We have seen a similar tendency in the past five weeks, as millions of people sympathetic to the plight of Gazans seek to rationalize the October 7 terrorist attacks as a justified response to the policies of the Israeli government. …”

    I worry not about atheism per se, but rather, the void it leaves that permits heinous ideas to enter the soul, leading to death and destruction.

    Full transcript.

    1. As always, Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s writing is strong meat. I thank God that, believing in Him, I am protected from believing the leftist nonsense.

      1. Biden is a criminal, a liar, a traitor to this country.
        Biden’s border invasion is destroying our cities..and the country.
        The lying fake news media is the enemy of the people.
        The Democrat Party is the enemy of the rule of law. Period.

    2. “Why I Am Now a Christian” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali

      You are not a serious scholar if you are ignorant of, or actively evade, two significant historical facts:

      1) The religion-dominated Dark/Middle Ages.

      2) The pro-reason, this worldly ideas of the Renaissance/Enlightenment. It is those ideas, imported from ancient Greece, that ended the Dark/Middle Ages, and that ushered in the scientific revolution and political freedom.

      “I worry not about atheism per se, but rather, the void it leaves that permits heinous ideas . . .”

      That is an intellectually irresponsible straw man — and a deadly false alternative: The nihilism supposedly inherent in atheism or embrace religion.

      1. Ayaan: “I worry not about atheism per se, but rather, the void it leaves that permits heinous ideas . . .”

        Sam: “That is an intellectually irresponsible straw man”

        Yours is a statement empty of substance. The statements above it are similarly empty. They do not add to an understanding of what Ayaan believes. Do you notice how Ayaan worries about the void created, not atheism?

        1. “Yours is a statement empty of substance. The statements above it are similarly empty.”

          Why admit so openly your ignorance of the history of ideas? And why try to evade so obviously the history of religion?

          That atheism = “void” betrays Ali’s ignorance of the history of ideas, and her ignorance about the meaning of atheism.

          1. “Why admit so openly your ignorance of the history of ideas?”

            What admission? Comments like you made should provide a bit of reasoning.

            “And why try to evade so obviously the history of religion?”

            How did I evade the history of religion? What did you say that required answers? Nothing. What you are asking is for another person to read your mind. What happens if your mind is as empty as your rhetoric above? What do I do then? (I am not saying it is empty, but you opened the door.)

            “That atheism = “void” betrays Ali’s ignorance “

            If Ali responded, she probably would answer by saying you proved atheism = void.

            I see a bit more clarity in Ali’s words than you interpreted. She did not see atheism as = void. She sees atheism as leaving a void. I suggest you read her entire article and Bertrand Russell’s 1927 lecture, Why I Am Not a Christian. I think he demonstrated a void he had to fill.

            “I worry not about atheism per se, but rather, the void it leaves that permits heinous ideas . . .” ___Hirsi Ali

  13. OT

    The most grievous, subversive, and anti-American insurrection in U.S. history was committed by an utterly ineligible, son of a foreign-citizen father, and artificially and illicitly ensconced communist “community organizer”:


  14. Democrats have lost their voice, they have no spine, no moral, no love of people, police nor country. Not a word from Democrats, not a thank you to USCP, not an apology on behalf of their supporters, no denouncing of these violent actors.

    Democrats are the problem. Six Police were injured by Dem supporters who were not peaceful at all per USCP. Forget banning Biden. Ban Democrats. They are a stain, once again, to America

    Speaker Mike Johnson

    Last night, pro-Hamas protesters outside the U.S. Capitol violently attacked the Democratic National Committee headquarters. I condemn this criminal activity, which injured six brave Capitol Police officers, in the strongest terms. As Americans, we must unite with one voice in steadfast support of our ally Israel.

    I want to thank the officers with the U.S. Capitol Police who worked quickly to evacuate members, staff and civilians and arrest those engaged in violence. Congress will not be intimidated by this vile display of anti-Semitism.

      1. It is – but they frequently occur together.

        I agree with Derschowitz that the overwhelming majoroty of anti-zionism is anti-semitism in hiding.

        Does “from the river to the sea” mean exterminate Jews, or does it just mean – Palestinians will rule rather than jews.
        I beleive the former. Not the latter. But with SOME people I could be wrong.

        However when people are out Marching to support Hamas – not palestinians, when they are marching to celebreate Oct 7, when they are chasing Jews into closets, murdering them, beating them up on the streets – they are no merely anti-semites – they are genocidal nut jobs.

        No one is obligated to support Israel in all things – or anything. Though Rational people tend to grasp that in the mideast you can not do better.

        But if you support the acts of Oct 7, the murder of babies and children, the rape, the beheadings, the burnings, the taking of civilian hostages.
        The deliberate targeting of civilians – then you are immoral.

      2. There was a study and it showed the vast amount of anti-Zionists were anti-Semites. Today the number has increased. You guys are cowards and have to hide behind women, children, and words.

    1. Why is the CP protecting the DNC ?

      To be clear the DNC is absolutely entitled to protection from rioters.

      But the CP are responsible for the protection of a tiny bit of government property that is the capital and the immediate federal surronds.

      The majority of federal fascilities in DC (the DNC is not a federal fascility) are protected by the Park Service, the marshals, the sercret service or rarely the FBI.

      The non-federal portions of DC are protected by the DC police.

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