Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is under fire for her statement to Joy Reid on MSNBC explaining why Luigi Mangione allegedly murdered UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Warren explained that this was a “warning ” that “you can only push people so far.” After a public outcry, Warren walked back her statement. Yet, the statement captures the growing radicalism on the left, particularly among anti-capitalist, Democratic Socialists, and other groups. It is also notable how many of the same political and media figures who were apoplectic and unrelenting over the false claim about Trump’s “fine people on both sides” statement are largely disinterested in this and other extreme comments on the left.
Reid has long been criticized for racist and extremist commentary. Warren seemed eager to play to the far-left audience after first noting that “Violence is never the answer,” but then adding the warning to others that “you can only push people so far, and then they start to take matters into their own hands.”
The senator explained that
“the visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the health care system.
Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far. This is a warning that if you push people hard enough, they lose faith in the ability of their government to make change, lose faith in the ability of the people who are providing the health care to make change, and start to take matters into their own hands in ways that will ultimately be a threat to everyone.”
The comments came after various pundits and citizens celebrated the killing, including the former Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz, who expressed “joy” over the murder (only to walk that back like Warren). Some have defended Lorenz and explained how, while they may not express joy, they understand where “she is coming from” in celebrating the murder of a healthcare executive.
Wanted posters have appeared throughout New York with the images of other CEOs (and of Thompson with a red X across his face).
It is the same moral relativism that we have long seen in higher education on the left where violent rhetoric against conservatives or capitalists is common.
As previously discussed, such statements include professors writing about “detonating white people,” abolish[ing] white people, denouncing police, calling for Republicans to suffer, strangling police officers, celebrating the death of conservatives, calling for the killing of Trump supporters, supporting the murder of conservative protesters and other outrageous statements.
We also discussed the free speech rights of University of Rhode Island professor Erik Loomis, who defended the murder of a conservative protester and said that he saw “nothing wrong” with such acts of violence. (Loomis, who has written for the New York Times, was later made Director of Graduate Studies of History at Rhode Island).
It is unclear if Mangione’s anti-capitalist views brought him into contact with known violent groups on the left, including Antifa. Just days before the murder, I wrote about how a liberal media site was selling Antifa products in celebration of the anti-free speech, violent group.
The different treatment given the statements of Trump and Warren are striking. Notably, the false claim received endless coverage and is still reported by the media despite being debunked. The Charlottesville controversy occurred at the start of Trump’s presidency and showed how the media was not interested in whether stories were true in the shift to open advocacy journalism.
What was evident to many of us listening was that Trump was referring to the debate over the removal of controversial historical statutes and noting that there were “very fine people on both sides.” As Snopes belatedly recognized years later, “while Trump did say that there were ‘very fine people on both sides,’ he also specifically noted that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists and said they should be ‘condemned totally.'”
None of that mattered (or continues to matter to some) in the media because the narrative was better than the facts. Many in the media did not even acknowledge that Trump denied the spin given by his opponents and said that he was referring to the underlying issue of the protest. The statement was treated as demonstrably and unequivocally endorsing violence. It is the same reason why the statement of Warren and many on the left have not been given the same level of public condemnation even in the face of an actual murder. It does not fit the narrative.
Many celebrated Warren’s warning and the implied rationalization for the murder. Others praised her gutsy take.
The far-left publication The New Republic reported the Warren statement in positive terms in an article titled “Senator Elizabeth Warren had an awfully real reaction to the shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.”
TNR has been one of the promulgators of this story and attacked Trump in 2024 in what it called a “new” defense over his comments despite the fact that he has always maintained that he was referring to the overall protest over the monument. TNR also attacked Snopes for its fact check and “helping Trump.”
As I discuss in my book, “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” politicians use rage rhetoric to ride waves of public anger and garner supporters on the extremes of our political system. The same motive has led some Democratic leaders to embrace Antifa in the past. However, these establishment figures often find that being embraced as a revolutionary today often means that you are viewed as a reactionary tomorrow by the same radical allies in these movements.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Gimme a break, the children of millionaires and the dwellers living in their parent’s basement are all pissed off because insurance companies will not cover what they believe they should be covered for? So they murder/condone murder of people? Did they even read the policies before they (or their parents) signed up? Were they expecting carte blanche coverage? Were they expecting excellent care and outcomes just because they had insurance? It’s grow up time.
It’s a market place stupid. Just like cars, computers, clothes, houses, phones, etc….there is a reason for variation in price and it is up to you to figure out why if you buy (you don’t have to…YOU decide your risk tolerance). Ever heard the term ‘caveat emptor’? The language alone suggests that the buyer’s responsibility to inspect ANY product before purchase has been around for millennia. And now some huckster mop head senator from MA is trying to make the world believe that caveat emptor no longer applies and that she and her party will take care of you? ROTFLMAO! They will take care of you alright! Look what the Democratic Party did for America in the past (to name but a few):
-slavery
-civil war
-segregation
-Jim Crow laws
-internment camps
-robbing citizens of their wealth by government spending and subsequent inflation
And kiddies, you expect this same crowd to fix your insurance problems so you don’t have to deal with it? Grow up, sucker. Many of the problems you are seeing in healthcare are BECAUSE the government has invaded that arena and the marketplace has become distorted. And without a true marketplace, bad behavior on the part of government backed participants will likely be the norm.
@Ex Dem
Yup. I guarantee you every single member of Antifa fits the same profile, and up to now just never faced consequences. Very telling with the elimination of certain DAs in blue places that rioting did not occur.
I don’t know if it’ll happen, but I’d love to see every single one of these little pieces of sheet in prison where they will not be treated with the kid gloves of either their parents or the leftist culture that very nearly destroyed our country, and I am not usually so morbid. But these little sheets? They deserve precisely what is coming to them. The rest of us will forget them, as though they never existed in the first place, and move on and have peaceful lives. Such boosheet it is difficult to put into words.
“Yup. I guarantee you every single member of Antifa fits the same profile”
Now how it that even possible, assuming you know each one personally?
Bravo!! I love a concrete thinker! Sadly, they disappear as time goes on leaving the wise men to wonder how it feels
I am guessing you haven’t read the policies of the health insurance companies pertaining to the rationale for denying coverage. This is because they aren’t public, so you literally cannot decide your insurer based on this information.
After I tore my ACL as a 20-something, I was cut off from physical therapy after 20 visits (which are multiple times a week so it was <2 months) because my PT noted that I was walking to my appointments rather than driving.
Any medical professional can tell you that ACL therapy involves lateral movement. When pressed for a medical reason why walking in a straight line was evidence of full recovery of my ACL, they demurred. The only way to move forward would have been to bring a lawsuit, which would never make sense financially for a 5-6 digit recovery. More than anything it isn't worth the time needed to do so.
I point this out because this large insurer's policy for denying coverage was considered proprietary. The doctor who reviewed my appeal was never provided. So your above screed suggests that you never actually "read the policies before" you signed up.
A little bit confused on your response. You got 20 visits and you could walk to your PT appointments. You fail to state how many appointments you think you were entitled to and what YOUR criteria for continuing the PT amounted to in terms of results.
Did you get the “lateral movement” therapy within the first 20 visits?
Did you achieve full/expected recovery without the addition visits?
There is one additional “way to move forward” that you did not mention. You could have paid for the PT yourself. If you did pay for it, how many more visits did you get and what was done in those visits that was not done in previous visits that could be attributed to recovery? If you did not pay for it, does that mean you let your leg function go for a few grand (average PT visit for established patient is around $120 x 20 more visits). Even while you imply that a “5-6 digit recovery” would not make sense????
BTW, I do read my policies though I must admit I have never read up on what happens if the provider says that I have, in their opinion, made the expected recovery and I felt I had not. I have presumed that, under those circumstances, a second opinion is in order. And yes, my current policy does cover second opinions.
BTW, congratulations on your ‘2 month recovery’. When I experienced mine, the full recovery was not even close to that time frame. But then again, I did not get 20 PT visits either.
For those of you who continue to believe Mark Levin’s claim that there is a “Biden Crime Family” taking bribes–that just fell apart–excerpted from MSNBC:
“The trouble began in earnest in February when Smirnov was indicted for providing “false derogatory information” to the FBI about Biden and his son. The charges stemmed from the special counsel investigation led by David Weiss, a Trump-appointed prosecutor.
Reporting on the developments shortly after the indictment was announced, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes described this as “the most spectacular embarrassment imaginable” for the Republicans who targeted the president, and it’s worth understanding why.
For Biden’s GOP detractors — on and off Capitol Hill — Smirnov’s claims were foundational. He was the party’s star witness. Sean Hannity’s Fox News show ran with this informant’s claims in at least 85 separate segments last year. The Republicans’ entire “bribery” conspiracy theory was based on the claims of one man — who was charged with lying to the FBI about the Bidens.
Making matters worse, the GOP’s anti-Biden witness, soon after getting indicted, conceded to prosecutors that some of the false information he spread came from “officials associated with Russian intelligence.”
Ten months later, according to the latest court filings, Smirnov is pleading guilty to the federal criminal charges.
I’m mindful of the fact that Smirnov is not exactly a household name, and this story probably won’t appear on the front pages of many newspapers, but the developments represent a stunning fiasco for some prominent GOP lawmakers.
Rep. Jim Jordan, for example, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee, is on record publicly declaring that he was relying largely on Smirnov’s claims as part of his pursuit of Biden. The Ohio Republican specifically told Fox News in January that the allegations raised by Smirnov represented “the heart” of the GOP’s case against the president.
Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, the GOP chair of the House Oversight Committee, made similar comments, declaring last year that Smirnov’s claims were “a very crucial piece of our investigation.”
At least one House Republican conceded that the party was warned not to take these uncorroborated anti-Biden allegations seriously, but Jordan and Comer, among others, ignored the advice and ran with the claims that have since collapsed.
In the GOP’s impeachment crusade, the real “scandal” isn’t what Joe Biden did, it’s what his accusers did.”
@Gigi,
Interrelated items:
You fail to address the circumstance of Biden’s DOJ’ DOJ attempting to get a plea deal for Hunter that was rejected by the sitting judge:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter-bidens-plea-deal-fell-apart-now-dramatic/story?id=101671356
You fail to address this:
https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/pr/robert-hunter-biden-convicted-three-felony-tax-offenses-and-six-misdemeanor-tax-offenses
You fail to address the laptop contents that was long in the hands of the FBI and verified to be authentic while at the same time government actors were portraying it, and the evidence it contained, as a Russian spoof. The items on the laptop regarding payments and cuts to the ‘big guy’ have nothing to do with whatever games Smirnov was playing.
And what better way to cover-up any investigation about the relationship of Hunter, Jim and Joe’s business together (‘crime family’) which Joe repeatedly denied, than to give blanket pardons for over a decade, eh?
Past time too get real, Gigi. Even ‘ol Joe knew the ’emperor had no clothes’ so he did the pardon. He is counting on stooges to carry the water for him.
ExDem–other than you delusional MAGAs, no one cares about Hunter Biden, his laptop or his legal troubles. MAGA media have harped for years about the laptop, but there has never been any proof that Joe Biden did anything wrong, despite desperate Republicans feeding MAGA media with lies and holding hearings that turned up nothing. Republicans capitalized on Hunter’s emotional problems and substance abuse, but came up with zilch in the way of proof that JOE Biden did anything wrong or was bribed. There’s no evidence of a favors provided or quid pro quo. The Republicans’ entire case is based on Smirnov, who has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.
But, we DO care about Trump stealing classified documents, lying about them, stealing from a charitable foundation, falsifying business records and loan applications, sexually assaulting women and bragging about it and his endless lying. Since the election is over, he is finally admitting that there was nothing behind his promise to drastically lower grocery prices–he knows nothing about economics–but, he does know how to lie and to entertain the crowd with stories about Arnold Palmer and fellating a microphone. If he carries out the threat to deport millions of migrants, then there won’t be people to plant, pick and pack fruits and vegetables, to work in meatpacking plants, to do carpentry, drywall and other construction work, to work in hospitality, kitchen and hotel work, all of which will cause prices for food, construction and hospitality to go up.
Gigi, you do carry the water for Joe.
Joe stole classified documents from the Senate SCIF, bragged about it and gave them to his autobiographer. His autobiographer admitted this and Joe conveniently ‘does not recall’. Yet, he did recall enough in his DOJ interview on that and several other matters that he claimed executive privilege and blocked release of the interview tape. Further, he released the stolen information in his possession for profit. An apparent clear violation of the Espionage Act. The fact that you say “zilch in the way of proof that JOE Biden did anything wrong or was bribed.” denies the public record. And no “quid pro quo”? As in VP Joe saying ‘fire that Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Barisma today or no billion in aid’? To deny that on your part is nothing short of a partisan shutting their eyes denial and hack job.
The rest of your construct is the same old same old. Trump’s “stealing of classified documents” by the very executive that is entitled to have access to them has never been settled. The “falsifying business records and loan applications” is a case that would very likely been reversed on appeal yet you cling to it in spite of a sham trial beyond the pale. (We will see how this plays out in the ethical righteousness of the prosecutors. Since it is righteous, they will pursue to satisfy to satisfy their stooges, right?). A ‘sexual assault’ claim where the ‘victim’ not only waited decades to make the claim, she could not even recall the year the alleged assault took place? How incredible must it get before you can set aside your bias and wonder how that could possibly be? As far as bringing grocery prices down, he said it will be “hard” to bring them down…it will only be a lie if he does not get it done. So you jump on that NOW before he is even in office??
Gigi, your naivete is beyond belief and your claims of wounds from lies is remarkable. Kamala lied about Joe’s state of mind (and she paid dearly for that lie). Joe lied about pardoning Hunter (Hunter is not a guy with “emotional problems”, rather a spoiled, hard core manipulator hell-bent on using anyone and everyone around him to include his family to sell the ‘Biden brand’). Joe has even been caught lying about his involvement with Hunter in ‘business’ dealings….and the implications of such lies are massive.
As far as your bigoted comments regarding “migrants”, Cesar Chavez was fighting that old line of BS when he was fighting illegal immigration decades ago in order to get what he described at the ‘wetback’ problem under control. If you really want to understand the problem, try to learn the distinction between ‘migrants’ and ‘illegal migrants’. ‘Illegal migrants’ do all the low level jobs you mention AND typically are subject to harsh working conditions if not outright slavery simply because they ARE ‘illegal migrants’ that can easily be manipulated in order to survive. And that survival is for YOUR cheap burger with lettuce and tomatoes in YOUR stinking cheap house that was built on the sweat and blood of abused ‘illegal immigrants’? You are not just a partisan hack, you are one pathetic and disgusting blood sucker.
Today’s American Left: killing people, celebrating when others kill people, censoring speech, and cheerleading for Hamas.
Pretty sure Non-left do some share of killing? Hey, look at healthcare companies – they decide life and death. That’s killing right?
You are not thinking. A lot of the problems you are seeing were created by collectivist ideas that led to our present HMO’s and Obamacare. Many of the healthcare problems we talk about today were caused by leftist ideas which raised costs, while lowering quality and reducing access.
Except Mangione wasn’t left or right…. per the Post, he was socially conservative and fiscally liberal.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/us-news/luigi-mangione-had-concern-for-the-future-of-humanity-pal/
“He was left-wing on some things and right-wing on others,” Bhogal said. He recalls Mangione mentioning he was a champion of equality but opposed to DEI, wokeness, and identity politics.
“He opposed wokeism because he didn’t believe it was an effective way to help minorities,” Bhogal explained. “He expressed interest in more rational, evidence-based forms of compassion, like effective altruism.”
This is many ways is more aligned with MAGA Trumpism than either traditional party platform, given MAGA’s love for leftist labor policy and hatred for the free market.
But don’t let facts get in the way of good line.
You consider second hand information “facts”? Wow!
“was left-wing on some things and right-wing on others,”
That may be, but there is some crossover on many issues. He sounds like a leftist thinker.
The imposition of effective altruism is true leftist thinking.
“a champion of equality ” needs context. “opposed to DEI” being opposed to something doesn’t make them left or right.
“But don’t let facts get in the way of good line.”
You should take your quote and take it to heart.
‘You can only push people so far’ is from the same political party declaring that ‘you gotta pass it to find out what’s in it’. The wanna-be’s path is clear; erase America in order to create the woke world.
In an argument violence often is the offered solution by the one who is losing the argument and is emotionally immature. Isn’t it ironic that the elite are resorting to violence as a solution. I guess it is true that intellectual intelligence does not necessarily reflect emotional intelligence. Our chosen leaders must possess a wisdom to guide with a moral compass found in those whose emotional IQ is exceptional. Ms. Warren is obviously bereft of this quality.
“God give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.”
– Serenity Prayer
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Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass, aka “Pocahontas,” should understand that the Constitution exists to provide freedom to Americans—freedom, free enterprise, free industries, and free markets sans governmental interference—to allow Americans to “pursue happiness” while it provides the recourse of a system of courts for criminal prosecution and civil litigation to obtain redress for grievances.
Luigi Mangione was young.
Luigi Mangione enjoyed the freedom to establish a healthcare insurance enterprise to compete with UnitedHealthcare and provide the best product at the lowest price.
To compete—to “build a better mousetrap”—is not what he did.
* I haven’t read the murderer’s manifesto. Perhaps that’ll be evidence at trial for an insanity plea. Has he plead not guilty? What are the facts? I’m too lazy to Google it or maybe just tired.
Read Ted Kocynsky’s manifesto. It went along fairly well until the end when his solution was annihilation.
He’s insane but it’s not the right kind of crazy.
* A guess–> it’s a belief in socialized medicine when every gets the same care from Elizabeth Warren to the unemployed mentally ill.
It’s already in play and known as an HMO. I’ve always thought the person that thought of making all physicians employees was novel, not that I agree. Be sure the “managers” including the CEO receive the same pay as physicians 😉.
Have you thought of the alarming aspect of your “guess”? “Everyone gets the same care”. Sounds good, but is that really what we want? Remember COVID? For awhile, “everyone” was being put on ventilators to the point of a national shortage. Then it was realized by those calling the shots (the ‘same care’ crowd) that treatment was inappropriate and possibly killing people. Poof! No more shortage. Need I remind about the ‘same care’ crowd demanding social distancing? Masking? Plexiglass dividers?
The bottom line: the very last thing you want in almost ANY setting is a one-size-fits-all or a small group with a large number of sycophants making decisions for everyone. It may work well when circumstances don’t really mean much (as in everyone got their free COVID test kit in the mail…lousy test that it was) but how about if they put both you and your neighbor on a ventilator? Would you have felt good about a bad treatment just because you both got it?
If DT’s pick, G-Man director Patel gets nominated…Watch out. G-men might get outsourced to India for a substantial cost savings.
“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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Hillary Clinton deliberately mishandled classified material in conjunction with Barack Obama who used a pseudonymous email account while illegally exchanging and mishandling classified material with Hillary.
If James Comey had indicted Hillary, James Comey would have convicted Obama.
A whole lot of democrat criminals must be brought to justice by Kash Patel.
I wonder if AOC was on to something when she wore the EAT THE RICH dress?
She thought the dress she was wearing said “SUCK A DICK” instead. She’s barmaid-expert at doing that.
Crude. Expected from a Rep.
Let’s take a step back and talk Capitalism. If he felt he or others are being “ripped off” by insurance companies there are normally, but in the case of health insurance, three possibilities:
Possibility 1: There is a lack of competition in the health insurance industry. Health insurers are engaging anti-competitive practices such as price fixing, preventing new companies from coming into the market, etc. This permits them to overcharge for their coverage and to deny rightful claims. If insurance companies are engaging in any of this, it could mean serious jail time for insurance executives. But no one is claiming any of this is happening.
Possibility 2: You are being charged a fair price for the insurance premium you pay based on what they have to cover and reimburse doctors and hospitals so you need to get over it.
However, in the health insurance industry there is a third possibility. Hospitals and doctors are overcharging for their services because there is nothing to constrain them. Suppose you need surgery. Do you ask the doctor or the hospital what the charge will be? Of course not because your insurance company is going to foot the bill, so you don’t care. But suppose your insurance company told you if you can find a doctor and hospital that will charge less than the standard reimbursement rate, they will split the difference in the savings. If this were the standard way of doing business in health care, both health care costs and insurance rates would go down
Perhaps there’s a point when people will just put put a pillow under the head of the ill and let nature take its course.
Don’t follow the calculus of your Possibilities.
Possibility 1: “… Health insurers are engaging anti-competitive practices such as price fixing, …”
Health Insurers (and Auto) are engaging leagues of Claim Writers that are directed to deny the value of claims.
It’s more obvious in the Automobile Insurance racket, Claim Writers just don’t get paid to write a fair-value claim.
thus the rise of Accident Attorneys (Morgan & Morgan, etc…) making Billions, because if the Claimant stands pro se, the Writer and Insurance Co. Attys just reduce the actual reinstatement cost to near nothing. This isn’t “anti-competitive practices or price fixing”, it’s selling a worthless product (a ripoff).
Possibility 2: “… based on what they have to cover and reimburse doctors and hospitals …” Doctors and their Hospitals are expensive to run, and this is a big problem. Property, Plant, and Equipment cost have gone out of sight (Note, just look at the Commercial Real Estate Industry – Buildings can eat you up like an Alligator). Then add Staff and Pharma cost to that, along with Advertising and Legal Coverage … . You get a subsidy via Medicare and Medicaid but mostly you rely on Insurance for income. So YES the Medical Community has a systemic Capitalism problem. Insurance Companies are just passing the cost on to the Con Consumers however they can (Higher Premiums and more Claim Denials).
There is an Answer: Everybody needs to take Less ($)
Understanding the Anger Over Healthcare in One Picture
Healthcare costs have soared. Obamacare failed to live up to its promises. And my lead image dramatically understates the problems with costs.
By: Mike Shedlock ~ December 12, 2024
https://mishtalk.com/economics/understanding-the-anger-over-healthcare-in-one-picture/
It’s not capitalism.
It’s the “pursuit of happiness” by individuals through freedom, free enterprise, and free markets provided by the Constitution without any material governmental interference per Article 1, Section 8.
“Capitalism” is a pejorative coined by Karl Marx for the purposes of targeting.
Karl decidedly did not want you to be or enjoy freedom; he wanted the collective: Of the collective, by the collective, for the collective.
Uncoupling health insurance from employment and making it like any other insurance you purchase (e.g. car insurance) would be a major good step, but I fear that will never happen.
Even car ins. coverage is limited.
Uncouple from employment? By what, the “dictatorship of the proletariat.”
Enterprises voluntarily provide health insurance as part of their compensation package, as they do annual leave, sick leave, parental leave, retirement, 401k, bonuses, etc.
Enterprise employers must offer competitive compensation.
Congress has no power over enterprise operation or private property – Article 1, Section 8, 5th Amendment.
Will you be promoting single-payer, collective healthcare next, comrade?
What must happen per the Constitution is the total extraction of governmental interference from the healthcare industry ending the skewing of those free markets.
“Hospitals and doctors are overcharging for their services because there is nothing to constrain them.”
That is false. Prices for procedures are negotiated between insurers and providers. For Medicare and Medicaid, government sets the reimbursement rates.
Warren is just another left wing death cultist. From abortion to assassinations, they are fully on board. Violence is their preferred mode of operation.
Warren and Trump are similar in re to their speaking without carefully measuring what they say. Both speak spontaneously, Different in credibility with Warren just mouthing spouting off, Trump actually truer to his thinking.
Wealthy, entitled, narcissistic.
Consigned to the involuntary celibate category because of a back injury.
Blames American Healthcare system for his perceived ruined life.
Raging, snarling beast.
Would-be engineer run amok…because of a Lyme tick?
Welcome to Luigi’s world.
Ah, Lyme disease; another product of the CIA, “inadvertently” introduced into the general population.
C’est la vie!
Well it’s nice to see Senator Warren and Ms Lorenz give voice to the bloodlust that we always knew was in the modern progressive left. It has been only thinly veiled as they and the media tried to blame all of this on the right. Nice to see it all out there on the internet where it will live forever.
They now preach murder for their views even though the victim was a member of their own political group. ( he was a Democrat)
It’s like the Great and Powerful Oz. Once the curtain has been pulled back and real thing exposed then we cannot unsee it again.
Now we know what really lies within those ravenous and hateful minds. You see things there that we thought had died with the likes of Adolph Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich.
I hope this steels the Republicans to stiffen their spines and sharpen their lances as they work to slice off large parts of the administrative state. Maybe the congress will now realize that they have to do their job every day and not leave the important decision making to faceless but malignant bureaucrats in commissions and agencies who have no love for preserving the freedoms and values of our nation.
Give me a break. She knows exactly what she is doing, there is great intent behind her words; she is a useless grifter, something I was actually disappointed to realize, and she is perfectly emblematic of the fact that there is no longer an American Democratic Party, just a communist oligarchy. I remember when Bill Maher said to her on her show that he’d donate a million dollars if she would run for POTUS, and I pray now that she loses the station she has and never holds anything resembling power again; the same goes for all of her ilk.
If the scant few on the left who aren’t strictly radicalized and still somehow think they are voting for JFK or that Obama was somehow a channeling of JFK’s legacy – I don’t know what to say. At BEST, that party is going to fracture and reconstitute, but not because they have magically seen the light, no – they’ll be trying to pander to the people that just handed them their behinds, will hand them their behinds again in 2026, and 2028, and it isn’t going to work. Despotism and elitism are going to die, or at the least be marginalized to the extent those constructs might as well be dead, over the next four years, count on it.
*on his show
Another instance of false equivalency. We members of the sensible class, treat what Sen. Warren says as distinctly different from what Thump says. Sen. Warren is a measured and temperate individual, while Thump is bombastic at best, and theateningly demagogic at worst. Furthermore, Sen. Warren’s supporters are intelligent and thoughtful individuals, and not likely to misconstrue her words. Thumps’ supporters, on the other hand, and with few exceptions, are barely sentient, knuckle-dragging, uneducated simpletons ever ready to grab up their dung-forks and torches to storm the castle and to pitch their betters headlong into the moat.
Dung forks??? Oh! Thank you for reminding me that I have to go muck out the big cat pan!
(Note to self: Remember to buy a dung fork for the Trump Inauguration Costume Party.)
So, advocating murder in the “right circumstances” is OK if you say it in a temperate manner, couched in all the “of course violence is wrong” platitudes?
So much for rule of law…
Sounds like the drunk but then we could have more than one.
History: When Obama and Biden were using every avenue of Democrat deceit to find a way to shove Obamacare down America’s throats, they kept polling Americans to find a base of support and found that over 80% of Americans were happy with whatever health care they already had. Hard to honestly sell Obamacare to American consumers in the face of that.
So they enlisted MIT economist Jonathan Gruber to lie to Americans that Obamacare would provide more coverage than private health care – and do so at a lower cost. And of course, if you were worried that you wouldn’t like Obamacare more than your existing health care, or that you would lose your doctor(s) of choice under Obamacare, they had an Obama answer to that.
Remember the repeated If you like your current health care plan, you can keep your health care plan! If you like your current doctors you can keep your current doctors! The average family will save $2,500 a year!
Perhaps more relevant to Elizabeth Warren’s vicious demagoguing and justification for murder:
WHO REMEMBERS SUPPORT FOR MURDERING HEALTH CARE EXECUTIVES PRIOR TO OBAMACARE?
ACA Architect Jonathan Gruber: ‘The Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Led Us To Hide Obamacare’s True Costs From The Public
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/
We can be sure that as an anti-capitalist, Democratic Socialist, Warren is one who fully appreciates the need for a turn toward violence when she and her ilk begin to feel they have been pushed too far from having their ideology forced upon the masses. Keep your eye on them. Their threatening ways are hidden in plain sight and they should never be thought of as wholesome and nonviolent. There is a rage in them fully capable of breaching the surface.
The majority of Americans are enraged over the lack of a sane and humane healthcare system, with no fix coming despire promises by politicians of BOTH PARTIES who have access to the best.
You (and Warren and probably the mentally ill Bernie Bro that murdered Thompson) continue to totally conflate health care and the financial service of providing protection against the high cost of health care. They are two separate things. About $4 Trillion was spent on the former in 2023 in the United States; about $225 Billion was spent administering the latter* in 2021 (Source: cms. gov National Healthcare Expenditures – most recent available last time I checked)
*There is some reciprocal cost within the $4 Trillion where the providers of health care have to deal with the people who provide the financial service-maybe $500 Billion
“You can only push people so far” explains the results of the recent election.