Stacey Patton, professor of journalism at Howard University, has caused an uproar with her advice to white people who want to oppose this Administration. Patton told them that they had to follow the path of John Brown, who led a bloodbath before the Civil War that included killing white slave owners and pro-slave settlers.
In a blog titled “John Brown Didn’t Ask Enslaved People How to Be A Good White Ally,” Patton told white liberals to stop asking how to be a better “ally” to minorities. She writes:
“It’s a question that always lands heavy. Not because I doubt their sincerity, but because the question itself is still a form of protection that centers the asker’s confusion instead of the target’s danger. It’s a request to be taught, forgiven, and reassured, again and again. It’s another round of homework assigned to the wounded…It’s exhausting as hell because it’s still a form of emotional outsourcing.”
Instead, she tells whites to become modern John Browns and presumably unleash a new era akin to “Bleeding Kansas” and the infamous Pottawatomie massacre.
Brown was a militant slave abolitionist during the pre-Civil War “Bleeding Kansas” period. In 1856, he orchestrated the Pottawatomie massacre. He and fellow abolitionists dragged five Kansas settlers, at least three of whom were pro-slavery sympathizers, out of their homes and executed them.
Patton wants whites to emulate Brown, who “saw the horror for what it was and decided that ending this racist f*ckery mattered more than being understood.” What clearly makes Brown stand out for Patton is his violence: “So when white allies ask, ‘What can I do?’ here’s the answer: Be like John Brown. Ask yourself, what am I willing to burn so somebody else can breathe?”
Of course, a hanging might be a bit stiff for many liberals longing to be Antifa. So, Patton acknowledges, “If you don’t want to die like John Brown, fine. But understand that somebody always does.”
Not surprisingly, the professor has little time for those who want to embrace the alternative, non-violent lessons of Martin Luther King:
“Now, white liberals love to quote Martin Luther King Jr. because he is a man that can be polished into civility. But John Brown doesn’t fit the script. He was a m’fukin’ gangsta! He didn’t ask for gradual change, or healing, or bipartisan cooperation. He saw a nation addicted to violence and knew that moral persuasion alone couldn’t sober it.”
Patton’s column comes after the controversy involving the John Brown Gun Club, which was connected to flyers appearing on campuses like Georgetown reading “Hey, Fascists! Catch!” The phrase was written on unused bullet casings found after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. It went on to proclaim, “The only political group that celebrates when Nazis die.”
The recent charges against Benjamin Song, an Antifa member, also raised the group. Song was charged with three counts of attempted murder of federal agents in addition to three counts of discharging a firearm stemming from an ambush-style shooting at an ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas. A dozen others were charged in the plot. He was also reportedly a member of the John Brown Gun Club.
Notably, this is a journalism professor in a school that has long been associated with advocacy journalism and the controversial hire of former New York Times reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones.
We previously discussed the release of the results of interviews with over 75 media leaders by former executive editor for The Washington Post Leonard Downie Jr. and former CBS News President Andrew Heyward. They concluded that objectivity is now considered reactionary and even harmful. Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, editor-in-chief at the San Francisco Chronicle, said it plainly: “Objectivity has got to go.”
Downie recounted how news leaders today.
“believe that pursuing objectivity can lead to false balance or misleading “bothsidesism” in covering stories about race, the treatment of women, LGBTQ+ rights, income inequality, climate change and many other subjects. And, in today’s diversifying newsrooms, they feel it negates many of their own identities, life experiences and cultural contexts, keeping them from pursuing truth in their work.”
Now, objectivity is virtually synonymous with prejudice. Kathleen Carroll, former executive editor at the Associated Press, declared, “It’s objective by whose standard? … That standard seems to be White, educated, and fairly wealthy.”
Stanford journalism professor Ted Glasser insisted that journalism needed to “free itself from this notion of objectivity to develop a sense of social justice.” He declared that “Journalists need to be overt and candid advocates for social justice, and it’s hard to do that under the constraints of objectivity.”
Lauren Wolfe, the fired freelance editor for the New York Times, has not only gone public to defend her pro-Biden tweet but published a piece titled “I’m a Biased Journalist and I’m Okay With That.”
Former New York Times writer (and now Howard University Journalism Professor) Nikole Hannah-Jones is a leading voice for advocacy journalism.
Indeed, Hannah-Jones has declared, “all journalism is activism.” Her 1619 Project has been challenged as deeply flawed and she has a long record as a journalist of intolerance, controversial positions on rioting, and fostering conspiracy theories. Hannah-Jones would later help lead the effort at the Times to get rid of an editor and apologize for publishing a column from Sen. Tom Cotton as inaccurate and inflammatory.
Yet, Howard saw Hannah-Jones as perfect for a chair in its journalism school.
Professor Patton seems to have left not just neutrality but sanity behind with her implied support for violent action. It is unclear how such views impact her journalism courses at Howard University. However, she has featured prominently in The New York Times, Washington Post, and The Chronicle of Higher Education as well as ABC News, CNN, and MSNBC.
John Brown wound up at the end of a rope.
Come get me, Stacey. I’m waiting…
Frederick Douglas refused to support John Browns “slave revolt” few if any slaves joined him. He also killed a free black man who worked the railway near Harper’s Ferry. He was captured by Federal troops led by Robert E. Lee. John Brown was a psychopathic murderer, he met a fitting end. Anyone calling for his emulation is disturbed, to say the least. The “The 1619 Project” was an ahistorical abomination, its author, a fool.
This doesn’t require a great deal of dialog just simple understanding that they became what they were silent to. Welcome to the Nazi Switzerland 🇨🇭
Switzerland wasn’t silent to Nazi atrocities – they enabled and supported it for both their security and enrichment.
There’s nothing new here – including the myths about what Switzerland has been like as a country for centuries. Centuries that they sent their mercenary troops to fight beside any tyrant willing to pay for them with gold.
You know what nobody seems to think about – John Brown was a devout Christian, a Calvinist. If “John Brown” were to be reincarnated, he would probably view much of the Democrat Party as totally demonic. I can see such a man going all “Harper’s Ferry” on, well, fairies, lesbians, trannies, abortion doctors, surgeons who castrate kids, the whole welfare plantation industry, etc. In other words, such a man would be the bane of such people as Stacey Patton.
He was about as Christian as rabbi finklestein.
What a maroon.
Is thata cookie? Or is that a macaroon?
Good point!
Brown was no MLK, Jr. Any sane person born as few as 100 years ago would see the Dhemmicrats as demonic groomers.
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? I, the LORD, search the heart; I examine the mind to reward a man according to his way, by what his deeds deserve.…
They want you to forget it ever happened.
Google Admits Censorship Under Biden.
Kings always use censorship so King Biden did the same while walking around with his mouth agape wearing no cloths and the press declared how wondrous his wardrobe was when even a child could tell that he was naked. There have always been ring kissers and many of them are commenting on this platform. Their legacy will be that even on their deathbeds they still with a shaking raised finger will declare that the king’s wardrobe in times of yore was the most magnificent thing to ever to be beheld. So sad that they will die with a lie on their lips.
“They want you to forget it ever happened.”
Do they really want it forgotten? Or are they have so much hubris and arrogant confidence in their power over the ignorant masses that they don’t really care, one way or another?
Think
Now we have a KING under biden
That is an excellent allusion
And literally true.
The demented emperor with no clothes.
Another typical dem-o-rat.
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Texas Democrat Threatens to ‘Wipe Out’ Republicans by Slashing Their Throats: ‘I’m from the Hood, Okay?!’
All this HATE from the left.
Don’t ya just love the so called educated left.
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‘Hate The Police’: Harvard College Dean Hopes Trump Dies, Says Cops Are ‘Racist And Evil’
MORE winning, so libs
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Trump Authorizes Strategic Reserve Refill as Oil Prices Dip
DustOff,
I recall when Trump wanted to refill the SPR, Schumer blocked him.
Bob, there is a farmer who is upstate, who works hard with his hands, back, sweat and toil, harvesting his land and feeding his family and others. As for you, your comment looks like some random yahoo posting on this forum who could be blown to smithereens with a bob sled.
😉
Dopey
Educated left, at least its educated, cant say that about you
Is that the best retort you’ve got?
DustOff,
And yet, the so-called educated left, cannot define what a woman is.
HAHAHAHA making my day Upstate
They’ve been re-educated into idiocy.
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
“Our iniquities”? Sheesh. You sound like that old Puritan preacher Jonathan Edwards, who compared the human soul to a spider dangling over a flame. Look that sermon up for Halloween.
Your post is great poetry, though. Did you compose it? Is it AI?
I’d tell you the truth but it isn’t PC.
Not PC? Horrors!
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure.
Amen. NOTE: NOT “INEQUITIES”! Iniquities — lawlessness.
FACT: For more than a century, U.S. Presidents have been renovating, expanding, and modernizing the White House to meet the needs of the present day.
Republican In 1902, President Theodore Roosevelt built the West Wing — replacing expansive greenhouses constructed during the Jefferson Administration and establishing the modern day executive office wing with a “classically leaning design” — along with a colonial garden and East Terrace, which eventually became the East Wing.
Democrat In 1909, President William Howard Taft remodeled and expanded the West Wing, which included construction of the first Oval Office.
Democrat In 1913, President Woodrow Wilson demolished the colonial garden, modernizing it with a rose garden.
Republican In 1927, President Calvin Coolidge oversaw the renovation of the upper floors and attic of the White House.
Republican In 1929, President Herbert Hoover remodeled the West Wing, including reconstruction work in the basement level and remodeling the first floor; after a fire on Christmas Eve, the West Wing was repaired and reopened in 1930.
Democrat In 1934, President Franklin D. Roosevelt overhauled the West Wing, adding a second floor, a larger basement, and a swimming pool, and relocating the Oval Office to its current location; in 1942, President Roosevelt constructed the East Wing.
Democrat In 1948, President Harry Truman undertook a “total reconstruction” of the White House’s interior, expanding its foundation and footprint — preserving only its exterior walls.
Democrat In 1962, President John F. Kennedy constructed the modern Rose Garden.
Republican In 1970, President Nixon converted the swimming pool into the press briefing room; in 1973, he added a bowling alley in the basement.
Republican In 1975, President Gerald Ford installed an outdoor swimming pool on the South Grounds, financed entirely by private donations.
Democrat In 1993, President Bill Clinton undertook a restoration and refurbishment of the Executive Mansion.
Democrat In 2009, President Barack Obama resurfaced the south-grounds tennis court into a basketball court and added the White House Kitchen Garden on the South Lawn.
Republican In 2020, President Trump and the First Lady completed a new White House tennis pavilion, refurbishing the White House Tennis Court and Grandchildren’s Garden, as well as constructing a new building.
Democrats 7 | Republicans 6 (7 If counting this Reno of Trump’s 2nd term)
Source:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/10/white-house-ballroom-proud-presidential-legacy/
Thank you for this link! I hate the media’s & The left’s hypocrisy on this issue!
These are the people who love history so much they’ve torn down monuments. 😂. AI really isn’t smart.
Ano
Thanks but stop thinking facts. Libs don’t think that way.
They let emotions drive them.
DustOff,
Some more facts, Deranged Democrats Go All In On “Trump Is Destroying The White House” Hoax
https://modernity.news/2025/10/23/deranged-democrats-go-all-in-on-trump-is-destroying-the-white-house-hoax/
We are having way to much fun
Thank you, Anon, for setting the record straight regarding the history of White House renovations, clearly and comprehensively, and for the courtesy of providing a link.
Stacey Patton must have been arrested, indicted, prosecuted, penalized, and compassionately repatriated with extreme prejudice for incitement to commit homicide et al.
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“But John Brown doesn’t fit the script. He was a m’fukin’ gangsta! He didn’t ask for gradual change, or healing, or bipartisan cooperation.”
– Stacey Patton
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AI Overview
Yes, “gangstas” often commit crimes like murder and theft, as well as other serious offenses. Gangs and individuals associated with the term “gangsta” are involved in a wide range of criminal activities, including violent crimes such as murder, assault, and robbery, and property crimes like burglary and theft, as well as drug trafficking and other illegal activities.
Stacey Patton must have been arrested, indicted, prosecuted, penalized, and compassionately repatriated with extreme prejudice for incitement to commit homicide et al.
What she wrote was not incitement, unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that she intended at least one reader, immediately upon reading her words, to grab a gun and commit a crime with it, and also that it was objectively likely for that to happen. All three of these elements are required, or it’s not incitement.
And the only place she can be “repatriated” to is New Jersey.
I hear Kenya is nice this time of year.
Maybe it is. What has it got to do with the price of fish? This Patton woman can’t be “repatriated” there.
Ok, Compton or Detroit will due and no Carnival cruises for her!
Why? She is evidently one of the clowns who do not believe in the sanctity of borders; maybe she should be privileged to experience one of the consequences of that lack of belief.
She’s a teacher. She teaches advocacy journalism to a captive audience. Advocacy journalism is syndicated reaching the greater population.
Advocacy journalism is persuasive writing with a political system. The effect intended is to overthrow the US government and economy my force and coercion including murder of the opposition.
Incitement does not need be immediate. It can be likely at some future time. The murder of Charlie Kirk is an effect. The assassination attempts of DJT and Justice Kavanaugh are evidence of the John Brown effect.
Pattons class is more of a literature class than a journalism class. The link is the medium such as magazines, newspapers, pamphlets and “news” programs.
Have syndicates been upgraded to RICO? Arson and murder are historically evidenced . Patton skates by –> I was discussing history and it’s application?
Really, really competent lawyers can easily tie this up with a nice bow on top. The left is playing cat and mouse. Unfortunately the AI people with their embedded messages cause retardation. Why lgbt suddenly? Sam Altman and other programmers is the reason. You will be gay and love it?
Milhouse, you’re smart. You can tie this up. You can expose it.
Speaking of No Kings, which President and administration reflected the character of a King and authoritarian rule more? The one that showed up with his cabinet and agencies in response to the tragic wildfires in Los Angeles, or the one who did not show up to the ravaged hurricane victims in North Carolina? And when Biden’s FEMA did show up, they literally avoided providing assistance based on political/ideology affiliation. That’s right, President Trump saw American victims and went all out to assist all of them and Biden saw political enemies deserving of nothing but a $700 check. Oh, all the while shoveling billions out the door for illegal aliens and NGO’s supporting Leftist causes overseas.
” Biden saw political enemies deserving of nothing but a $700 check.”
Was the Biden admin response even that politically unbiased? My understanding is that FEMA field operatives were directed to bypass and completely ignore properties that displayed signs favorable to Trump, or supportive of the Second Amendment.
FEMA had been radicalized into fanaticism and the Trump signs triggered their PTSD. The FEMA people were afraid.
That’s what they say. After hurricane Katrina engineers would not go into new Orleans unarmed. It was that dangerous.
Although they were separated by very few years in age, John Brown and black abolitionists Henry Highland Garnet and Frederick Douglas lived at the same time yet worked from opposite ends of the Abolitionist Movement. John Brown acted upon the violence expressed by Garnet at the National Convention of Colored Citizens, Buffalo, New York, August 16, 1843, when he incited his brethren to “Arise, arise! Strike for your lives and liberties. Now is the day and the hour. Let every slave throughout the land do this, and the days of slavery are numbered. You cannot be more oppressed than you have been – you cannot suffer greater cruelties than you have already. Rather die freemen than live to be slaves. Remember that you are four million!” It was at the same convention that Douglas then rose to caution against Garnet’s violence and instead keep on the steady course to end slavery via “moral suasion”, which had been realizing ever growing favor and positive results up until and through the avoidable tragedy that was the American Civil War.
John Brown’s violence had gained so little support from slaves that his cause failed miserably. And it was a good thing too, for had the four million given their support they would have realized more cruelty and death than ever was experienced in their slavery. John Brown failed then and any effort now to resurrect his regrettable life as a way and means of opposing conservatism will also fail.
America functions by legislation.
All the abolitionists needed to do was pass legislation abolishing reprehensible slavery.
Apparently, they were outvoted, and they transitioned into criminal activity.
In a democracy, the majority wins, or there is no democracy.
In a society of laws, laws must be strictly adhered to, or there is no society.
High criminal “Crazy Abe” Lincoln illicitly denied not prohibited and fully constitutional secession, forcibly imposed martial law, unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus, smashed printing presses, threw political opponents in prison, commenced an unconstitutional war against a sovereign foreign nation, killed one million Americans, etc.
Every act of “Crazy Abe” subsequent to his illegal denial of secession is similarly illegal and must be rescinded and abrogated up to and including Karl Marx’s “Reconstruction Amendments,” and America must be placed squarely back on the Constitution and Bill of Rights of 1789.
Great! And after that, we give the land back to the injuns!
No. America secures the land and puts the Indians on reservations.
Oops! That happened.
AND. Indians murdered other Indians and end-slaved them.
The Creek Indian Nation was one of the largest slave holders in the South pre-Civil War. Slavery is as old as mankind, it’s going on today.
Do you call having 20% plus of your earnings taken every Friday, with another 15% of your homes value taken annually, another $1.50 added to every dollar of gas you purchase and another 7% added to all purchases except food …. Free?
Why do that? According to ‘indians’, one cannot own land – it is their mother…[or something] Besides, indians are interlopers in America; Celts and Danes were here first. Indians migrated in and genocided the residents.
Mad King George/X has gone completely daft after realizing he had fallen into a bi-racial, intersectional love affair with his Black Liars & Marxists cutting edge journalist Stacey Patton.
Mad King George/X can’t figure out whether to bed her – or lynch her.
I think she gets the deciding vote.
George got jungle fever…
A story of Poonanny and betrayal
“All the abolitionists needed to do was pass legislation abolishing reprehensible slavery.”
I generally agree with the characterization of Lincoln, however, I am not certain that simple legislation would have sufficed. Given the language in the Constitution about the enumeration of “free persons”, Indians, and others, an Amendment (albeit probably far different from those that were passed following the defeat of the Confederacy) might have been the best way to accomplish this. At minimum, imo such legislation would have been required to explicitly identify blacks and other former slaves as the “free persons” mentioned in Article I, Section 2.
Libs: please post ICE videos to NY AG portal so the feds can supoena them for evidence to ID/charge the violent terrorist protestors!
Thank you for your attention!
TRUMP SENDS TROOPS BECAUSE BLM dems freak
Trump tries to stop the killing. Woke won’t have it, claiming, King Trump must go.
If Trump was king there would be no “No Kings” protests, the View wouldn’t be on the air and Whoopi.and Behar would be in an unknown dungeon. Just the fact you can protest no kings proves the US has no kings. This is unlike under King Biden where protesters were entrapef, had to fight the secret Police for their lives, were killed by Biden’s police like Bloody Nicholas in Imperial’s Russia and innocent bystanders were locked in prisons for years without charges, access to attorneys or bail, then sentenced to years in prison, even grandmothers. Thank God King Biden is finally gone.
John Brown was a hero who gave his life to fight against the crime against humanity of slavery. He should be emulated.
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John Brown was insane. Ms Patton is insane.
Gerrymander by State. As the murder and robbery continue , as NG is turned away, as the efforts to provide safety are rebuffed, sane people must remember those trapped in the hellpit cities such as Chicago, San Francisco, southern calif, DC, Memphis and so many others.
Marshall law is the answer.
How apropos.
AI Overview
John Brown was hanged on December 2, 1859, in Charles Town, Virginia (now West Virginia). He was executed for leading an unsuccessful raid on the federal armory at Harpers Ferry in October 1859, which aimed to incite a slave uprising. A Virginia jury had convicted him of murder, treason against the state, and inciting a slave insurrection.
John Brown was a murdering scumbag who got what he has coming.
Riiight…
Slavery was constitutional and lawful. Brown and his sons dragged peaceful, law abiding men out of their own homes and hacked them to death with machetees.
Brown was a mass murderer. Serial killer. Psychopath. Terrorist.
A UK Scotland Yard inspector was told by the property owner not to go there till daylight.
Federal prosecutors in Maryland have officially notified Pam Bondi that they have found insufficient evidence to bring a mortgage fraud case against Senator Adam Schiff.
No, they haven’t. This story by MSNBC is an outright fabrication, a total lie. Nothing of the kind has happened, and the investigation is still on.
Why are you shilling obvious lies ?
The evidence is not debateable. Schiff claimed two residences concurrently as his primary home.
The issue with these prosecutions is not Evidence – there is plenty of evidence, it is that the crimes are small,
and even if successfully prosecuted only result in slapps on the wrist – therefore prosecutors rarely pursue them – except as leverage – usually for a settlement in tax cases – pay the IRS gobs of money and you will not get prosecuted for fraud.
We heard this nonsense about Comey and James – and then they were indicted by grand juries in blue districts.
There is no problems with evidence.
Regardless, I would bet that schiff is indicted and prosecuted.
He is incredibly hypocritical, and his “crime” is far more significant than either the Enmoron/James nonsense in NYC or the Merchan.Bragg nonesense.
And it is likely that grand jurors and potential petite jurors – outside the far left will see that too.
Outside the far left People are just not going to rush to the defense of those who went after others for crimes less serious than they committed themselves.
But the mortgage case against schiff is the least of his worries.
He also faces a conspiring to obstruct justice and conspiring to violate the espionage act for
instructing others to leak classified material.
sniff is going to jail for his treason against the United States of America and you know it loser
Also, he is a pencil neck commie.
A Bugeyed Watermelon head he is…
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Whatever crimes he has committed, treason is not among them.
Obama kidnapped and murdered 8 million white children in our country, during his time in office.
“KARL MARX’S KINGS FOR A DAY”
President Donald J. Trump is not behaving like a monarch; rather, he is acting as a prudent chief financial officer would—working to restore the organization to sound operation and strengthen its earnings per share.
By contrast, the leftist coalition—including liberals, progressives, socialists, Democrats, RINOs, and AINOs—are the ones exhibiting authoritarian behavior. They have deliberately and knowingly obstructed government functions to create hardship for political gain.
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Thursday that President Donald Trump’s “main priority” at the moment is constructing a $200 million ballroom addition to the White House.
Really ???
What about farmers going bankrupt because China refuses to buy their crops ??
What about affordable healthcare ??
What about the rising cost of groceries and cost of living ??
What about rising unemployment ??
What about the economy ??
I believe he has concepts of a plan for all those other issues, so his time is now free to concentrate on the ballroom.
LAME ANON!!
“OBONGO POWER”
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“Obama-backed solar firm collapses after big federal loan guarantee”
“Solyndra Inc., a renewable energy firm that became a darling of the Obama Administration, shut the doors of its California headquarters Wednesday, raising fresh questions from critics about political favoritism and wasted money in the federal loan program.”
– Center for Public Integrity
Solyndra Inc. ran into the problem many at the outset of a large change in an industry does – they wanted to build a more efficient solar cell at a similar cost to existing processes. What they did not foresee was that someone else was working on cost-reducing the existing processes. This is what finished off a large number of early car makers when Ford produced the Model T. There was no reason to expect a cost breakthrough by the Chinese and every reason to try to keep solar cell manufacturing alive in the US.
Even more spectacular failures have cost a larger amount of money in the Department of Defense. The B-58 Hustler is a magnificent example. Built as a go-fast bomber when it became clear the B-52 would not survive the missile defenses the Soviet Union had built. Before the B-58 could take the field, the missiles got better. It’s one example of hundreds in the last 70 years.
Stuff happens.
We now have Trump trying to sell coal to industries that ran away from it decades ago and buy foreign beef that would not meat USDA inspections to make up for the disaster that his tariffs have caused.
Beef was way up before Trump. Bidenflation was a cause. Bidens war on farmers was a cause. Biden limiting Federal grazing lands was a cause. Bidens threat to tax methane (cow farts) had ranchers reducing herd size. The take over of meat processing by only a few international companies like JBS was a cause and the drought in Some America was a cause. What meat is imported is inspected under both Biden and Trump. Trumps tariffs will help the US beef industry recover instead of relying on foreign beef.
Most of the effort to make beef prices higher can be traced back to Biden and the liberal globalists that want you to eat plant based beef and bugs and be happy about it. Trump wants everyone to be able to eat a real beef quarter pounder with cheese (though not still frozen like Chuckles Schumer makes). As Trump’s policies go into effect watch beef prices come down like gas and chicken prices already have come down.
The crap beef coming from where? It’s horse meat died red! No one knows if they’re sick horses or cows contaminated wth mad cow. It’s disgusting. How many maggots in that hamburger?
Wrong, but you knew that before you posted this BS
In Engineering there is this thing called an Engineer’s Opinion of probable cost. This is then used in a an economic analysis cost to benefit ratio along which includes all anticipated maintenance and operation costs to shake out the financial decision status. Obama and the Democrats politicized ithis doom and gloom climate change BS and squandered billions of taxpayer dollars on this green BS. Same with wind, they cost more than they produce.
Well, Democrats can’t do math so there’s that. Nobody even checked their homework when they were in school. They couldn’t possibly tell you if the figures looked anywhere near correct. They just ran with a fallacy yelling, “Look what we found out!”
OBONGOCARE
‘It’s only gotten worse’: As ACA premiums are set to climb, some Americans opt to go uninsured”
“Enhanced subsidies for Obamacare have kept premiums affordable. Absent action from Congress, they will expire at the end of the year.”
– NBC News
Lets just Kill ObamaCare. Then we can work towards returning Healthcare to the free market where it belongs and where we can actually expect that costs will decline and quality improve naturally.
Health care is great in the free market. Can’t afford it? Then die.
Start by removing licensing restrictions that prevent those without any medical school or passing boards do whatever they want. Follow that by removing restrictions on medical drugs and supplies. No more prescriptions, just order up what a YouTube video suggests. Ivermectin for everyone. Hydrocodone too.
To really accelerate things, eliminate the ability to sue for malpractice. Many states already what can be recovered; let’s go all the way.
Congress has no power to tax for, fund, regulate, or license any aspect or degree of healthcare, or to ensure affordability of any commodity, product, or service, per Article 1, Section 8.
Americans most certainly enjoy the absolute natural and God-given freedom of substance ingestion, per the 9th Amendment, while they may not violate laws against property damage, bodily injury, etc.
Undoubtedly you are a “democrat” who loves “our democracy” and “Constitution” while you evidently and literally know nothing of American fundamental law.
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9th Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Everything done in America is to be done by free enterprise in the free markets of the private sector.
Congress has the power to tax for only debt, defense, and “general welfare” (all, or the whole, well proceed), which consists of only security and basic infrastructure.
Ano
Health care is great in the free market.
Hey fool, the US has not had free market on healthcare since Congress stuck their noses in it back in the 1960’s.
“Health care is great in the free market. Can’t afford it? Then die.”
Newsflash. We’re all gonna die.
I work to earn money to improve my life and that of my family. So make the argument why it is moral for the government to confiscate the money I work hard for so it transfer it to someone I don’t know, whose values I may not share, and who may even hate me for my beliefs? Why does that person have a stronger claim in MY income than may own family members? Why should her life be improved at the expense of people I care about and love?
Second, it’s just a fact that most sectors of the economy the government intervenes in results in higher prices to consumers: education, housing, healthcare, defense. Why doesn’t that ever matter to libs?
“Health care is great in the free market. Can’t afford it? Then die.”
Worked fine prior to PPACA, Worked fine prior to medicare and medicaid.
In the early 1900’s the major cost for a worker who was hospitalized was lost wages – the hospital care was inside their ability to afford. The high cost of healthcare – and EVERYTHING ELSE government touches is a direct result of government stepping in.
As to death – we all die, that is just how it is. Not amount of healthcare will ever change that.
Life expectance in the US today is about 79. In India it is about 76, in Africa it is about 67.
In Parts of the world with little or no access to healthcare people live nearly as long as in the US – why ?
Because the greatest improvements in life expectance came from antiseptics, antibiotics, and Fluids.
These are available most everywhere in the world.
We have seen very little improvement in life expectance over the past 50 years – during which the cost of healthcare has increased by a factor of 3 AFTER inflation.
Why ? Because we are a very wealthy country with a high standard of living.
My mother died of Cancer a decade ago. Nothing was going to stop that.
She spent half the last year in the hospital – in a cancer wing, in a private suite, with 2 nurses at her beck and call 24×7, with marble floors, and wood panneled walls, and a breakfast nook for family and two entertainment systems. None of this improved her health. None of this allowed her to live longer.
But it significantly improved the quality of her life in her last year.
And her care was covered by medicare.
THAT is why Healthcare in the US is expensive. I am very happy about the care my mother recieved.
But Government should not have been paying for that.
My mother would have lived just as long in a 50’s style hospital ward with one nurse handling 20 patients all in the same large room.
We have seen lots of medical innovations in the past 50 years that allow people to live better – but few that allow them to live longer.
Regardless government should not be choosing the level of care we get. It should not be choosing whether we are on a ward with one nurse and 20 other patients or a medical suite that would make the helmsley palace look like sluming it.
“Start by removing licensing restrictions that prevent those without any medical school or passing boards do whatever they want.”
Did Hipocrates pass medical boards ? What about Luis Pasteur ?
You seem to think the world was born yesterday.
Worse still you do not even take advantage of the resources of the modern era.
If there was not state mandated licensing – do you think there would be no yelp reviews ?
When I need a doctor – my smart phone will tell me 10,000 times more about my choices of doctor than I could possibly imagine 50 years ago.
Without govenrment regulation you would do exactly what you do now.
Some of us would pick doctors at random and others would put the reltively little effort into finding doctors that know what they are doing.
Today Government regulation PREVENTS you from suing your doctor if they screw up.
If you are on medicare or medicaid, or an employer provided plan it is near impossible to sue for malpractice.
Those of you on the left Rant about powerful interests – but they play you like a fiddle.
Big business does NOT want a free market. They LOVE the protections from consumers they rent from politicians.
You think regulation benefits YOU ? ROFL. Most government regulation serves the industry that it regulates.
You rant about the influence of corporations – but it is free markets where they have NO influence where YOU have power based on YOUR choices.
There is no licensing of Grocers in the US – do they sell you poisoned food ?
There is absolutely no evidence that any government regulation EVER has noticably effected pre-existing trends.
Everything in our lives is improving BECAUSE of free markets. That has been true for over 500 years.
The rate of improvement is directly proportionate to the degree of freedom in the market.
NOTHING else correlates to improving anything about the human condition
” Follow that by removing restrictions on medical drugs and supplies. No more prescriptions, just order up what a YouTube video suggests.”
Already true for anyone who is half way competent. You can get pretty much any drug you want pretty easily on the internet right now. for between 1/2 and 1/10th what your insurance copay is on the same drug.
Most of these you can get without trying very hard.
“Ivermectin for everyone. ” In most of the world Ivermectin is OTC – anyone can buy it.
It is one of the safest drugs out there, it is also cheap, and available in very large quantities.
I would note though the covid benefits to Ivarmectin were small – it worked better than anything else that Big Pharma came up with.
In fact Covid is the perfect example of the failure of YOUR regime. Billions of dollars spent by governments and NOTHING that worked against covid emerged.
While in the real world – HCQ had some benefits in some instances – not much but still better than any drug that was blessed by govenrment. Ivarmectin worked better, but still not great. The most effective treatment for Covid was Calciferol – Vitamin D. That was the most important ingredient in what Trump was givern when he got Covid, and what Biden was given when he did. It is also part of why covid rates and covid death rates are 100% predictable by demographics ALONE. There is absolutely no evidence at all that any effort to deal with Covid by public health services did anything beyond destroy their economies, cost people their jobs.
Those of you on the left F#$Ked up big time on Covid.
Did the free market deliver the cure for Covid ? Nope. But the free market also did not destroy the economy, and trigger the worst economic collapse since the great depression.
The hypocratic oath starts with FIRST DO NO HARM – YOU BLEW IT.
As to hydrocodone – why do you care ? The whole hydrocodone nonsense is stupid ?
Hydrocodone is just an expensive addictive opiate. Heroin is much cheaper and purportedly a better high.
You rant that hydrocodone would be everywhere but for regulation – that is patently false.
It is because of regulation that Hydrocodone was a problem. Regulation lied to people and told than that Hydrocodone would treat their chronic pain without risk of addiction.
You never would have had the hydrocodone epidemic without govenrment involvement.
People would have realised quickly that to be effective it was addictive.
If you are going to choose to take addictive drugs – you will pick better addictive drugs, like Heroine.
I would note that we have had exactly the same thing with numerous other perscription drugs that have been abused – valium, xanax, it was specifically because they were blessed by public health officials that they became a problem.
People have ALWAYS had relatively unrestricted access to a wide assortment of drugs – a portion of people choose to abuse those to become addicts. Most people do not. We have spents centuries trying to change that and failed. Do you think the war on drugs has been a success ? Just more evidence of govenrment failure.
Eliminate ALL govenrment regulations of drugs and you will have no more and no fewer drug addicts.
What you will NOT have is people getting addicted to expensive drugs that offer a poor high.
I know this is hard for you to grasp – but people tend to make pretty good choices on their own in agregate.
Even Drug Addicts do not choose expensive bad highs.
Free markets work – even for drug addicts.
I would note that drug abuse should be evidence to both left and right that it is very nearly impossible to change human behavior through laws.
We all like to think that he purpose of our criminal justice system is rehabilitation – but there is no evidence that is the case. As has ALWAYS been true – nearly all crime is committed by the young. Most people age out of criminal conduct. They are not rehabilitated. We punish crime – we remove criminals from society for the protection of society – not to reform criminals.
You can not change even human criminal behavior with laws. Why would those of you on the left or the right beleive that you can pass laws to make people into better people ?
Have drug laws worked ? Then why would you beleive laws against racism would work ?
Society improves as standard of living rises, and that is directly a result of our freedom.
If you want to change human behavior for the better – give people the freedom to improve the human condition and that is how they will become better people.
“To really accelerate things, eliminate the ability to sue for malpractice.”
Where have I EVER said that we should eliminate Torts ? What kind of an idiot are you ?
Torts are NOT govenrment regulation – they are Market regulation, they are also a social contract duty of the govnerment. Torts are a postiori consequences for actual bad acts and they are actually effective – unlike regulation.
The rule of law – actual law, limited government – not the idiotic ranting about anarchy that those on the left do not even understand what they are talking about, REQUIRES that people be held accountable for the ACTUAL harm that they do.
You can sell or give to others – whatever you want. But if your free exchanges with other people cause them harm they did not consent to – YOU are responsible to make them whole.
Free markets are not anything goes. The ARE about responsibility for what the harm that you ACTUALLY cause.
Government regulation is idiots guessing what bad things migh happen and passing stupid laws to fail to prevent harm while often providing those that cause harm with immunity – because they followed the regulations.
I would note though limitations on Torts tend to come from the right not the left.
ALL those who shill for more govenrment – just end up protecting the interests they think they are reigning in.
A free market means you can sell whatever you want. But it also means YOU are responsible for the consequences of your actions – intended or not.
Free markets are about people regulating their own behavior, because they are not sheilded from the consequences of that behavior.
I would note that while libertarians strongly support Torts.
Even the importance of torts is not all that significant.
If you hear that a resturaunt is poisoning its food – are you going to eat there ?
If they are selling horse meat rather than beef – are you going to eat there ?
PETA which is inarguably pretty far to the left successfully transformed fast food – the mere threat of protests resulted in McDonalds changing the requirements for raising the chickens that were used in Chicken nuggets,
and after McDonalds – the rest of the industry followed.
Real consumer boycotts are a LEGITIMATE form of free market regulation – often much more effective than torts.
I think Im gonna need some healthcare after reading yet another one of your extremely lengthy and self bloviating dissertations. Get a fing life…
I’m an advocate of the free market for healthcare. Open cross State borders with established pools for people with existing conditions. If companies want to sell their services they must take a commensurate share of the “existing conditions “ pool. When you are struck with a chronic disease it’s no longer insurance, the risk is zero, you are a cost from thereon. Blind pools would distribute these costs equally across the industry.
“Then we can work towards returning Healthcare to the free market where it belongs and where we can actually expect that costs will decline and quality improve naturally.”
That’s a great idea. However, part of that work must be to end all government interference and preferences wrt health care providers and big pharma. Such interference and preferences peaked during COVID, and Trump and RFK Jr. seem to be moving in the right direction on those issues, but IMO there is a long way to go before a free market would function correctly.
*. It’s too much. Gavin Newsom has reached spewing lies like a fire hose level. It’s official. Newsom is evil.
Miss Stacy might consider opening euthanasia clinics coupled with abortion before she rounds up whitey in those cattle cars. She might get more takers than she knows.
Bye yall.
“What about farmers going bankrupt because China refuses to buy their crops ??”
There is no consequential change in farm bankruptcies.
Brazil is selling soy to China. the US is selling soy to the countries that bought soy from Brazil.
“What about affordable healthcare ??”
Democrats sure F#$Ked that up. healthcare costs are many times higher as a percent of cost of living than BEFORE medicare and medicaid. Where are the millions of lives PPACA purportedly saved ?
“What about the rising cost of groceries and cost of living ??”
What about it ? I just bought a $5 Junior Bacon Biggie Bag from Wendies today.
The same as I paid 10 years ago. Only slightly more than I paid in 1979 when I would buy a meal at Wendies in Atlanta when I was in college.
“What about rising unemployment ??”
Unemployment is at 3.8% pretty much where it has been since Trump brought it down from Obama, except for a brief spike for Covid.
“What about the economy ??”
Last reported growth was 3.8% APR – that is pretty good.
Much higher than the average under Biden, or Obama.
“the US is selling soy to the countries that bought soy from Brazil.”
No we are not selling to countries that bought soy from Brazil. Not in significant quantities to support farmers. They will still lose a lot of money. Why are we bailing out Brazil? Their free market experiment is not working.
Eat more soy domestically, eat it 3x per day if you care so much. Your dogs and cats can eat it.
“Why are we bailing out Brazil?”
When did we do that?
“No we are not selling to countries that bought soy from Brazil.”
Are you a complete idiot ?
Do you honestly think that Brazil can double their production of Soy overnight ?
If Brazil is now selling Soy to China, the people Brazil was selling to before have TWO choices.
Buy soy from those that have soy available to sell, or do not by soy.
Unless there has been a complete collapse in the demand for soy, this is the result.
This is the laws of supply and demand in action.
“Not in significant quantities to support farmers. They will still lose a lot of money. Why are we bailing out Brazil? Their free market experiment is not working.”
Your argument is economic nonsense.
EXCEPT when supply and/or demand is highly elastic i.e. if and only iff Brazil is capable of easily doubling its output of soy quickly, Markets ALWAYS work arround restrictions. If China buys from Brazil, those who bought from Brazil before must buy elsewhere and the ready supply is those who supplied china before.
This BTW is true of ALL trade restrictions including Trump’s tarrifs and including those of other nations on the US. For many items – supply and demand ARE elastic – in those instances trade restrictions are going to be very painful. But Soy is NOT one of those. Very very few foods or the critical supplies to produce food have elastic demand or elastic supply.
Regardless this is all econ 101 that you seem to be completely ignorant of.
They are likely to be some long term impacts of Trump tarriffs, as well as some short term disruptions – though the later are proving much smaller than expected.
The great danger is LONG RUN changes in production. US farmers face the risk that Brazil will increase its capacity to produce soy significantly NEXT year. While the rest of the world faces the very real risk that the US will significantly grow its manufacturing base – something that was already occuring, but now will occur faster.
How about farmers lower their prices?
Someone post the fishing boat scene from One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest. I don’t know how.
That’s your congress, that’s your college faculty.
$3.65/gal diesel
$13/40# Fertilizer
That’s Why…
That will be dictated by the laws of supply and demand. It is POSSIBLE that US producers will have to lower prices to sell their Soy.
But it is more likely that prices will go up.
China will pay a higher price for brazillian soy – if that was not true they would have been buying soy from brazil before. The people who Were buying from Brazil will have to pay a higher price for US soy.
Though there are also complications because tarriffs tend to make distribution less efficient – so it will cost more to transport Brazilian soy to chinese markets, and more to transport US soy to the markets brazil served.
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Thursday that President Donald Trump’s “main priority” at the moment is constructing a $200 million ballroom addition to the White House.
No, she didn’t. She told them that the ballroom was Trump’s main priority for construction, and that any future construction projects will have to wait until the ballroom is done.
Not a response to you millhouse. It’s a spot.
PT, Charlie Kirk’s death can be placed at the feet of Patton. A white zealot of the left possibly antifa murdered a white leader of Republicans in an infamous display of big game hunting.
Brandenburg calls in press, free speech and education. What us needed is a group of competent lawyers and attorneys to organize the evidence for syndicate or RICO as organized crime to overthrow the government and the government officials and bureaucrats are part.
They’re signing bullets now. How many attempts on DJT, Kavanaugh, and so many others are needed?
Patton should be put on a 5150 clearly. Some of these killers do exactly as she indicated but rather kill themselves instead of going to trial.
OT yes Epstein was murdered by inmates while guards “slept”. Yes, he was Jewish and so is Maxwell. The bloodthirsty people have made the ghost written book, No Ones Girl, a best seller.
Do these people realize when Christ was killed they murdered God? What are you doing Pope? Trying to atone to a dead God? Then misread his advice?
Thank you, PT. There’s sufficient evidence.
Silly Anon
Jews don’t believe in Christ, they use Christ as a tool.
What a nice gift. Thanks to the donors…
Watch some of the mentally challenged discuss how awful a 250 million dollar donated gift upgrade to the dumpy WH is. Actually, more of the surrounding property should be included in the upgrade as botanical garden areas.
Just close it as a museum theme park. Build a new WH elsewhere. Another State might donate property. DC can put in roller-coasters and trains. Late night gun fights, muggings, robbery for the usual old fashioned DC fun.
I wonder what Engoron thinks the Whitehouse real estate value is worth? Anyone know if the Feds pay property taxes, you know tax a tax dollar? The Democrats general idea of creating commerce?! That’s the mindset of why we are all in debt personally, every AMERICAN man woman and child for over $100K.
You know who isn’t responsible for the National debt, every illegal undocumented immigrant residing in our Nation.
Talk to the libs. It’s there fault.
“White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters . . .”
Nice lie by omission.