A Saudi court has ruled that the marriage 47-year-old man to an 8-year-old girl — upholding the controversial decision in December. Sheikh Habib Al-Habib rejected the mother’s effort to secure a divorce for her child.
Since the mother is separated from the girl’s father, the court ruled that she is not a legal guardian who can seek such a divorce. The father arranged the marriage to settle his debts and insists that the girl’s husband promised not to consummate the marriage under the girl reaches puberty. That could be as early as nine years old.
Recently, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia endorsed marriages of girls as young as 10.
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Yeah Baby. What else can be said?
kill the dad mom gets cousadty and girl is now free from rape
Well no wonder I have no respect for Islam as a religion. Marrying little girls as young as 8 or 10 in that religion? Sounds pedophile to me. Men marrying little girls in Saudi Arabia or any other Muslim country is a great sin or abonimation before God. Again I say abonimation. In the bible Jesus said ” By their fruits will you know them” What is the fruit of a religion that allows adult men to marry little girls as young as 8 or 10. It is a sin before God.
Daniel,
I agree that this is illegal, inexcusable, and horrific but disagree that it is confined to Islam. The bible has incest and rape as prominant features in its stories. Many a christian has advocated and done the same as this man. The abuse of children is bound to happen in any religion that promotes hierarchy and calls for the obediance of followers to authority, both to god and his self chosen representatives on earth.
Lottakatz,
What you said yesterday under free speech was eloquent and certainly applies here.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Our “allies”. Courtesy of Bush Co.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – There should be tanks and Marines in Riyadh, not Baghdad.
Now where did the 9/11 terrorists come from again?
Obama won’t dignify the UK Royal Queen with a bow – which is appropriate as President do not bow to anyone – but can somehow feel justified bowing to a human rights abusing corrupt Royal of the House of Saud – beause he is Mulsim. They (Sauds) need us more than we need them. Obama is naive, foolish, short sighted, wrong headed philosophically and a bad leader for the great USA. He sees our best days behind us as having been some imaginary vision of when we lived ‘at peace with the world and each other and the planet’. When exactly was that? When did countries ever hold hands and sing Kumbaya and truly help each other out when it was not in their best interest? When has Socialism EVER worked? When have any of Obama’s ideas, plans or anything EVER worked? Think about it. Oh and by the way – it isn’t Bush’s fault……
John Ross – American Patriot
There is a line of demarcation between respecting religious and cultural diversity, and adhering to priciples that apply universally to humanity. The use of children as chattel, the rights of females to equality and freedom of non-predatory sexuality are examples. Add to that the basica such as the right for food, shelter and health care and one is presented with what I think should be human norms, that transcend cultures and religions. The Saudi decision has no justifiable basis for a sound society save that of one that condones insane behavior.
I have a niece just about this age, so I find this ruling especially appalling. The idea that this child’s father was allowed to sell her to settle his financial problems is sickening.
Mike S.
I think that is a very good line to draw.
John,
It most certainly is Bush’s fault. Obama is not a big oil man who took our military from their legitimate goals of punishing the 9/11 terrorists (who all but one of which came from Saudi Arabia) and instead used them to steal the resources of a third country that had not attacked us in any way, shape or form. A third country that, in fact, acted as a bulwark against the Muslim extremism that controls Saudi Arabia. A third country that was stable albeit a dictatorship and squarely opposed to ANY terrorist group as they presented just as big a threat to Saddam and they did to anyone else, maybe more so. Saddam would have killed Al Quaeda withing Iraqi borders with stunning quickness and efficiency. Bush was. Obama’s family isn’t hip deep with the House of Saud. Bush’s is. Obama didn’t and doesn’t have a personal issue with Saddam. Bush did. Who started the illegal war in Iraq? Bush did. More accurately, Cheney and Exxon did via their puppet Bush. Obama wasn’t CIC then. He couldn’t have retasked the military away from Afghanistan and the logical second target of Saudi Arabia even if he’d wanted to. But Bush could have. And didn’t.
George Bush and Dick Cheney are TRAITORS. They are traitors so their buddies could make money and escape punishment for attacking and killing American citizens on American soil. End of F-ing story.
You better get your facts straight before spreading your Neocon Bush apologist bullshit propaganda here, sport. This is a blog full of people who pay attention and have long memories. And don’t try to hide behind the word “patriot”. It’s the last refuge of scoundrels. You don’t like Obama, fine. He’s not my first choice either, but he’s not the criminal that started all this. Bush is. Deal with it.
“could have and did.”
Damn the decaf. I hate doctors some mornings.
LOL, why is this even an issue? Their prophet Mohammed was a PEDOPHILE who married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9. Remember.. they ALL think this way, even if they say they don’t. Nukes, pls.
Can’t the relatives raise the funds to pay off the debt and redeem the child? Is finances even the nature of the debt, or is it something else? Would that God would afflict everyone involved in such unholy messes with an affliction worse than death. Then they could think of nothing but the pain. The abusive father, the so-called husband, and that unrighteous judge should all burn in a living hell. It is the practice of pedophilia; nothing less.
Marrying young girls off, whether in payment of a debt or to form political alliances with a neighboring tribe, has been in practice for thousands of years. It was a process that had practical applications in primitive society and avoided the horrific results of inbreeding. But there is no excuse for it in a “modern” culture in the 21st century. We don’t live in the 7th century anymore and human culture has evolved to become more sensitive to the rights of the powerless. But this, apparently, does not apply to Islamic states like Saudi Arabia. Women in that country are being held hostage by bearded old clerics who are clinging to archaic beliefs out of fear of losing their influence in society. Change or progress, no matter how small, is the enemy. This is why they hate Western culture so much.
Not an atypical result from a religion steeped in the “values” of old men having sex with pre-pubescent girls.
Muhammad married his own niece when she was nine…it is a sick group of individuals desparately in need of a reformation.
Hmmm, at first I was disturbed by this. But then I thought maybe this is the kind of judge and foreign laws that Justice Ginsburg can quote in her next ruling. After all, why bother with something as American as our Constitution. Why limit ourselves. Silly me.
You libs are idiots! A 47 year old saudi marries an 8-year old Saudi girl and its Bush’s fault? That same custom is common through all of the Arab world! The fact this idiot marries a child you find a link to link it to oil? The Dept of Energy was creater under the CARTER administration to : rid us of our dependency on foriegn oil”. 29 years later the DOE is a $29 Billion dollar per year failure! Now, what has stopped us from getting away from foreign oil? Too many restrictions on tapping into our own reserves, and which party is responsible for that? Back to the story here: This human right violation is typical of customs and tolerances most of the free world will not tolerate, as we have customs that the muslum world will not tolerate as well. Yet something at the G-20 conference some idiots think there can be one governing body throughout the world? That Bildenburg Group fails to realize that we tried such a ruling body twice before; the League of Nations after WWI and the useless United Nations we have today; what have either of them accomplished?
I guess if the libs want to blame Bush for our oil dependency then I guess Clinton can be blamed for advancing nuclear weapons technology throughout Asia, in particular China.
WTF!
Issue an international arrest warrant for her father and her “husband” and when captured , pass them both to me and i will give them a nice Palestinian treatment , i will cut there small pen**** and put them in there As*** . i had enough of those primitive Saudis .
TO KR
This is not common in the arab world , maybe in the gulf states only , i have never ever heard of such a case in palestine and will never allow such a thing to happen .
don’t make such an empty and baseless comments without facts behind it .
Just suppose there was no oil in SA! Those bloody idiots would still be herding camels and marrying children, or whatever peels their bananas! The world wouldn’t even know about them, except in a National Geographic magazine occasionally. Come to think of it, the West would also be a better place overall.
Progress? Bah, humbug!!
With West Virginia counting a bride of 14 years old in 2006, is the US that much better?
http://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/hsc/stat&tri.htm#wed
But it’s hetero so it’s just fine and dandy.
There is no correlation between Bush and this story. It is incredibly foolish to even bring it up. This is just disgusting and reprehensible. Children should not marry adults.
What are these people doing? What are we doing supporting them, we pay for their country with all the oil we use and they are taking it and marrying 8 yeara old girls? Whats wrong with us?
We need to cut all ties with these uncivilized countrys, all of them, get out and stop buying their products, gas, oil, figs, whatever it is we can find a new source.
We want to bash Americans for being Gay or Smoking Pot or wanting to own an Assult Cannon but this, this is just sick and we still will kiss their butts, all over OIL!
Do we not see what truly needs to be done people? We need to stop getting Oil from these countrys today! So fire up the Hemp ethenol and electric cars, bring home our troops in these nations and start doing whats right instead of what makes us money or saves us a few pennys! like converting to Hemp Ethenol Cars/Fuel, its going to cost at first and we need to change some peoples mind about hemp, but in the long run, within a few years it will pay for itself, finaly we will be free from Oil!
We will buy their oil even thought they hate us, and in 20 years when all the oil is gone, and we all our money is bled dry, we can borrow money from them to put in place a new source of fuel like Hemp! Gee why does it take the actual devistating event to make Americans change how they live. It will be too late when this one hits and we will be too broke to do anythign about it!
Oh and you can drill baby drill but we will never have the amount of oil we will need, to continue how we use it today. If that was a viable solution adn would completly take care of the whole problem with oil then we would have done it by now. oil in itself, allthe oil on the planet is doomed to run out, period, unless we stop using it as our primary fuel source. Alteritives like Hemp Ethenol will provide the amopuint we need to dowhat we do now and still save our oil here in the USA for even longer into the future.
Hemp the old new Fuel source, dont let the closed minded tell you lies about hemp!
So it can be said then that in Saudi Arabia, the female is nothing but a sex toy and a baby making machine and that they are otherwise useless human bbeings not worthy of respect, love, nurturing and all the other things that people the unique human beings that they are. It seems to me that men in Saudi Arabia only want male heirs and marry many women in an effort to hget them. If all that Saudi men want is male children then let the women go free after they have given birth to one son. Sooner or later the population would decline to the point of being extinct because all that there would be is men.
Hei Doc, there is a big difference between being 16, and 8 !!!!! Duh… at 8 yo, that little girl should be free of her father’s debts. He ren up the tab, he should kiss ass, and not trade his daughter. …. and as far as the 47 yo perv, right, he won’t touch her till puberty ???!!! That
s a laugh. He’ll make her do things for him, to him, and will be forever ruined, a slave. Castrate the son of bitch, that is what we do in Romania when a child is raped. … and the only thing this has to do with our government is the fact that it will pass with time and the oil will still be coveted by the US. You see she’s running dry, the reserves are about all that is left, without totally destroying our Alaska, our Parks, our coasts …. so no one will say or do any thing to deter this mf from raping this little girl. Let me know what I can do to help. I am not afraid of these fanatics, s–t, we all got to go some time, and why not for freedom. The US has given me shelter from a terrorist regime, ( Ceausescu ) and I will always defend the helpless. This Easter Sunday, I will keep the little one in my prayers, and hope the 47 yo’s d–k falls off !!!!
Bio-diesel. The diesel engine was actually made to burn fuel from vegetable oil. American farmers can grow certain tree nuts to make fuel or even soy beans.
I agree with Obama on this, lets get rid of dependence on foreign oil.
me too
Yep. Let’s get to the point where OPEC can charge whatever they like and it means squat. Let’s see how long the Neocon war criminals and their buddies in Saudi Arabia can survive without oil revenues. I’m betting it’s an end measured in years, but not decades.
So… Obama’s girls are now of marriageable age… hmmmmm… After all – he must agree with this since he bowed down to the King of the Saudi’s. Pathetic wimp of a President… lowers himself as subservient to a King that allows this type of garbage to occur. wow
To Buddha,
I think your reflexive “Bush Lied People Died” rant and the former President and Vice President are traitors, their buddies are hip deep, blah blah blah is getting old to people. Point me to a nickel that Chevron, Exxon, Bush, Cheney, or their ‘pals’ benefitted from the Iraq war financially? Did any US oil major receive any oil concessions in Iraq yet? Or did the Chinese? Did Bush get a fat book deal on it (like Obama just did)? Cheney sold all his Halliburton shares long before. Maybe all future politicians should have no connections to any private sector activities. That would be foolish as the private sector runs the country economically and the policy setters would make foolish mistakes. (oops – wait – thats the Obama administration – except for the multiple ‘ethics waivers’ no one has ever done anything productive).
And stop labeling people Neocons – I realize when your ideas and views are inferior and you are unable to defend them it is easier for you to stamp a negative label on it, destroy it personally, and then feel you have accomplished your debate objective. Your ideas are weak, your logic is flawed and your facts are non-existent. Hit me with facts and not radical labeling tactics.
And you don’t like Obama? Nice misdirection – but that pig won’t fly Buddha. You’re are all about ‘change’. Except I think your idea of change is the historical facts and interpretation of them. I don’t care how loudly you yell, get angry and demonize reasonable thought and rational people – the end result is the same: your ideas are wrong and therefore your conclusions are wrong.
Patriot?:
“And stop labeling people Neocons – I realize when your ideas and views are inferior and you are unable to defend them it is easier for you to stamp a negative label on it, destroy it personally, and then feel you have accomplished your debate objective. Your ideas are weak, your logic is flawed and your facts are non-existent. Hit me with facts and not radical labeling tactics.”
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You obviously haven’t read this blog long enough. Pick most any topic and you will find the facts you claim to crave but will likely discard. Buddha’s label is quite accurate summarizing the incompetence, mean-spiritedness, and down right anti-democratic values of that klan. The “k” is intentional by the way.
John Ross Patriot:
Actually the Neo-Conservatives such as Wolfawitz[sp?] and others have done a great disservice/harm to our country. They are not true conservatives and are more idealogicaly tied to the radical left. Bush’s compassionate conservatism is a load of Bull Shit and his bail-out ala TARP is/was a big mistake.
Bush and Company were actually bad for America and conservatives. It will take a few years for people to forget compassionate conservatism. Hopefully the republican party is not dead after 8 years of Bush and they will re-emerge from their self induced hibernation with a renewed belief in the rule of law, capitalism and free markets, separation of Church and State, individual liberty and other ideals that have made this country what it used to be. Bush was the old style country club republican, that is to say a member of the do nothing preserve my wealth class. They have interest in free markets, they might actually have to work to keep their wealth.
You sir, if you are a Neo-Con vis a vis Bush and Comapny, are no patriot and you need to get your facts straight. Bush was a big mistake for the Republican party and the country as was McCain who you probably supported in the primaries and so we get Obama, who is probably not that much different than McCain in terms of ideology.
True conservatives (or should I say classical liberals per Mr. Jefferson) believe in the rule of law, free markets and individual liberty.
no interest in free markets
whoops
Traitor – one who provides material aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States during wartime.
Not attacking the country that paid for and manned the 9/11 attacks, whisking their in States family out of the country on military craft immediately after the attack and then diverting our military into a third country that did not attack us because the Pres and VP were 1) in bed with said families, 2) they wanted Saddam’s oil, and 3) because Bush the Incompetent Scumbag Failure At Everything He’s Ever Done has Daddy issues most certainly is treason.
Obama wasn’t my first choice. Kucinich was. Obama became my choice by default because most Americans are so superficial they couldn’t get past the fact Kucinich looks like a leprechaun to back him for the ticket based on what he was saying, not how he looks. Because if Kucinich had been elected, Bush and Cheney would be on trial if not in prison by now. Gitmo would be closed. Baghram would be closed. Riyadh would be shaking in their theocratic fascist boots in fear of being rendered into radioactive glass. Kucinich may be the only honest guy on the Hill and he is certainly the only one who was paying attention to anything other than his re-election campaign or kissing ass upstream on the Hill. Kucinich was doing his job. And if he runs again, I’ll back him again. Right up to the point where you bunch of marketing drugged zombies in love with Brittney who think “pretty” is a job qualification for President screw it up again. Or not. Bad times can make people pay more attention.
I don’t care if you don’t like the truth, John.
Most Neocons don’t. Because it shows them to be the villains as much as the House of Saud. It shows them to be warmongering fascists with no regard for the Constitution. From Wolfowitz to every signatory to PNAC – NEOCONS ARE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES. And I don’t care what you claim as party affiliation – if you are an enemy of the Constitution and the Rights and Liberties guaranteed therein, you are my enemy by definition.
That goes for Obama too.
When it comes to the Constitution, nobody gets a free ride.
Buddha:
he looks like a leprechaun?
Well . . . kinda. But he’s got more brains and honesty than 10 Obama’s. I would have said 5, but the last two weeks have made my opinion of Obama plummet. Just as Bush was owned outright by big oil, Obama is showing that Wall St. owns him. Outright it would seem.
Actually he does appear to be an honest man, there is no doubt where he stands on the issues. So while I dont agree with him you do have to respect his views and values.
He also has a very fine looking wife, not bad for a leprechaun!
Buddha:
Calm down,I have feeling that we haven’t seen or heard anything yet in regards to the new administration,these little incidents that are happening now,seem to be just a warm up.
With the “TEABAGGING”and the kids are ROFLTAO for the title of such an event led by “ADULTS”now I am “ROFLMAO”its going to only get better and more WTF is going on coming.
So start drinking tea we need you .
all those women and girls need these masks, sure to make the deal go down.
http://image40.webshots.com/40/8/18/27/375981827SkxzBy_ph.jpg
i think if the girl wants to then go ahead if she doesnt..then dont make her!