We have another taser incident at a sporting event. It is unclear why the man was approached. Some reports suggest that he was in the wrong seat and was not obeying the commands of the officers.
There is again a question of the need for the taser, which creates a scene that is made all the more chaotic with the intervention of a shouting individual and then a fly ball.
One alleged witness left the following account:
I was sitting about 5 rows in front of him and he was actually a Texas fan and he kept yelling obnoxiously. The usher who had been very nice went over and made a joke. And dude flipped out screaming and swearing saying get outta my fing face and calling him the n word. They called security and he was still screaming and swearing. So the police came and while they were trying to put handcuffs on him he kept trying to swing at them. So they tasered him and he fell and hit his head.
While the man is clearly uncooperative and perhaps belligerent, it is unclear why a shot of 50,000 volts was needed.
We previously saw the use of a taser on a woman accused of sitting in the wrong seat at a football game, here.
At last night’s A’s game against Texas, a belligerent fan gets zapped by Oakland police officers (1:05), another fan gets pushed down the stairs (1:25), a woman makes things worse by screaming, and then a foul ball lands (1:42).
MIKE S – You are the prime example os someone educated with no sense. Your views regarding officers as “servants” are as antiquated as the view that mentally ill should be hiden away from the public. Your earlier comments regarding obey, can just as easily be transferred to the term servant. Reality is that they are often criticized and rarely recognized. Im glad you were able to “rise above” with a father. Mine was killed in the line of duty when I was 6, “serving” the public. The man in the video was beligerent and did not do as he was asked, repeatedly. He was of sound enough mind to display his ticket, and to call out to the public to gain sympathy and attention. Heres an idea, “dont fight with police, obey the rules, dont resist arrest”. We will call those “hints” of proper behavior.
the man got what he asked for
Haha Ars got what he deserved and there nothing you pathetic little whiners can do about it haha
Mike S.,
My parents were in the medical profession in Houston. The Towers Hotel was being converted to a Hospital. The 5th Floor was the Psychiatric Unit. I witnesses on a visit to see my parents a man hanging out the window that he had busted out by his own strength. It was so thick that when it hit the law it did not break one little piece off. He had knocked the window out of the concrete steel rebarb reinforced frame. Apparently they have super human strength.
Like I said . Just a bunch of thugs who love to F— with people and have a badge.
x
Ay,
You caught me it was 2002, so I actually weighed about 210. I became disabled and retired three years after.
bp,
It is obvious you don’t know the danger of someone in what’s known as a “psychotic break (episode)” google it and let me know how easy it is then. As I said that was one of many through the years. Remember though, I was just answering your assertion. By the way, yes I am well-educated, but my Father dropped out of school in the 9th grade and my brother only finished high school. I’m a working class kind of guy, whose growing up was a working class experience, so don’t pull this elitist crap with me.
Mike S,
Was that back in 2002, or 2009?
Mike spinell – Great job getting a patient with whom you were familiar with to cooperate with you, as opposed to a stranger who may have a fear of police anyway. And yes police need training in dealing with and identifying people with mental illness. However, people with Mental illness are just as likely to cause injury to an officer as those who are of sound mind.
just a bunch of thugs with a badge who wear their D— onthe belts who wish they were men
You wonder why this country is in the state it’s in. There has to be some accountability with those tasers. Those cops are criminals and should be procecuted.
Bunch of republican wackos
So I take it no one actually knows anything about police work. Has anyone tried to arrest someone resisting in a bleacher?
The minute the guy pulled away he was resisting. The police have essentially placed him under arrest. Now they have to subdue him. would you rather see him dragged over the seats into an area they can put him to the ground and control him?
I have been tazed. Not as bad as mace and has no lasting effects.
NO coppers hurt in this and the guy is not hurt. compliance gained with no injuries.
I have been in bleachers with guys and came away with injured coppers and suspects.
Should the coppers just have walked away when the guy refused to comply? Then what would you be saying?
This was a legal use of force and well executed.
The man is not hurt he is playing to the crowd.
When an arrest is made the only recourse you have is through the court. You resist and your resistance is over come.
Hell the courts have moved the tazer below placing hands on people in the ladder of force because it is so safe.
No one disputes that there are circumstances under which use of a taser is necessary. They were invented, after all, to provide an alternative to deadly force. However, it will be awhile before we reach a consensus on the policy issues surrounding their use, which is as it should be. So, for those of you who profess to have some special knowledge on the use and abuse of tasers, do you believe they may be appropriately employed to facilitate the removal of persons who intentionally disrupt town hall meetings (or city council meetings, for that matter) and threaten the speakers or other attendees?
Just another example of thugs out of control
“From several of the “educated” people on this blog, it is obvious you have never tried to “handle” a person who is unruly. Further, the man in question was quite large, why let the fight escalate to where someone might be harmed.”
bp,
As one of the educated people on this site let me tell you that you know nothing about me. The year is 2002 and at age 58 I’m running a “clean” housing program for drug addictive people with severe psychiatric problems. One of my patients, who I had personally had hospitalized the day before, broke out of restraints and out of a Psychiatric Clinic 9 miles from one of the houses I was running.
He was 6 foot 6 and weighed a well muscled 270. I’m 6 foot 195 and have a severe heart condition. It was a hot summer day and I was about to run a 12 Step Meeting for the other patients in this particular house. We were all outside and he comes up the block still in a hospital gown, sweating and looking as psychotic as he was the day before. He walks up to me menacingly and I tell him to shut up and get in my car, he needs to go back to the hospital. He gets into the front seat and I drive him back to the with him setting next to me in the programs tiny Nissan, psychotic as ever. Brought him to the hospital, took him to his ward, the door of which he had broken down and they were now repairing and dropped him off, with the staff amazed I had brought him back myself.
Had police been involved with this huge, sweaty black man, dressed only in a hospital gown, he might have been tasered, or he might have been shot. I’ve got a bunch of other tales, but this should give you the point. I also was invited three times to lecture police officers on dealing with the mentally ill. They thanked me each time. Don’t be so sure that you can determine who a person is, by his opinions or his writing.
All of you that feel this was an unjustified use of the taser are obviously ignorant of the use and or deployment of the device! What should the officers have done? Fought with him? Every confrontation that a police officer is involved in,so is his/her firearm! You do not have the right to physically resist a police officer in the lawful performance of his or her duty. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN IS HERE SO SUCK IT UP!
It’s a good thing that things like this never happened before the advent of tasers. I just don’t know what the police would have done.
realist, your comment that the “Taser has not, itself, caused any deaths” is misleading and wrong. It’s like saying the fall from the airplane did not kill him; it was the lack of a parachute. If someone is wearing a pacemaker and you disable it when you hit him with a baseball bat, causing his death, you are as much responsible for that result from a civil standpoint as you would be had you simply shot him to death. Far too many people argue that the victim must meet their standards. (How was I to know that he was deaf? All I know is that he kept running after I told him to halt.)