We have another taser incident at a sporting event. It is unclear why the man was approached. Some reports suggest that he was in the wrong seat and was not obeying the commands of the officers.
There is again a question of the need for the taser, which creates a scene that is made all the more chaotic with the intervention of a shouting individual and then a fly ball.
One alleged witness left the following account:
I was sitting about 5 rows in front of him and he was actually a Texas fan and he kept yelling obnoxiously. The usher who had been very nice went over and made a joke. And dude flipped out screaming and swearing saying get outta my fing face and calling him the n word. They called security and he was still screaming and swearing. So the police came and while they were trying to put handcuffs on him he kept trying to swing at them. So they tasered him and he fell and hit his head.
While the man is clearly uncooperative and perhaps belligerent, it is unclear why a shot of 50,000 volts was needed.
We previously saw the use of a taser on a woman accused of sitting in the wrong seat at a football game, here.
At last night’s A’s game against Texas, a belligerent fan gets zapped by Oakland police officers (1:05), another fan gets pushed down the stairs (1:25), a woman makes things worse by screaming, and then a foul ball lands (1:42).
He deserved it! Anyone who resorts to racial comments deserves any negative reaction and in this case, a tasered response.
At least they didn’t shoot him and claim they meant to taser him.
to all these taser loving cops, hey if your job is so dangerous(which i’m sure it is)if its that bad for you, just quit, NO one is making you stay!! but since you love the extra benefits of being a bully, you won’t quit you’ll just keep picking on people.
POOHBEAR 1, August 6, 2009 at 10:47 pm
As most of the responses here are honest and even tempered I applaud that. . . .
“We find amusement that folks call us lazy but then accuse of stopping you for no reason.”
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Sir, I do not want your job nor do you want mine. I will state that I have been stopped by the Police for nothing at all. They were looking for a reason to stop me. I have been a defense attorney for the very client that you are chosen to up hold and protect. Sir there is a certain element of Police that view attorneys as a vile living being that must be extinguished as easily as you would step on an ant. They accounted for about 35 percent of a 100 man police force. Maybe it was just my manner of representing my client, maybe it was just me. But we too took an Oath to uphold the laws as Justice dictates.
Is a Police Officers word better than an Ordinary citizen? It depends upon the fact and circumstances of each case, would you not agree. Criminal Defendants lie, we all know that right? Wrong. Some just were stupid at the moment and under the influence. The Criminal drug Defendants that I have the most respect for are the ones that never ratted out anyone. They did the crime, they did the time. I can count 4 out of more that 997 drug cases that I handled in my career.
I became quite familiar with what was usually an agreeable plea agreement and too offense when the LEO would dictate to the Prosecutor what they could or could not do. That sir, is not justice. Once the collar is made, your job is over. Once the Defendant is sentenced the Judges job is over. The Prosecutor and the Defense Attorney still have more cases to dispose of. Yours is just one of many.
I understand your point of view and I understand Buddhas. I think and maybe I am speaking out of turn. I think he was stating that the officer should show respect. That is all. FYI, generally the state Troopers are better qualified than most locals. The state usually puts more time and resources into training than locals do. I have a lot of respect for most of the Troopers from Michigan and the Department of Public Safety for Texas. Now get local and I see Buddhas point. You must be a state employee and treat each and everyone with upmost respect.
As most of the responses here are honest and even tempered I applaud that. Some are very uneducated and just plain ignorant. I’ll leave those alone. The effects of OC or a baton last for a long time. 30-45 minutes for OC and a baton, well could spell problems. A tasers effects are done as soon as the officer releases the trigger. I have to say that the numerous writers that gave the advice of do what the nice officers say first and fight it later is very wise. I will never say that every officer is correct in every move and every incident. I am not that stupid. But police officers are human, they have the same emotions and feelings that you do. I wish they could just take their personal lives and hang them in their locker when they put on their uniform. But this is unreasonable and surely does not happen. Sometimes I think the short fuses may be a product of our time. How many times has the clerk, attendant or other public service type provider given you a smart answer. Buddha I welcome folks like you to take me to court. I very calmly and professionally tell what I saw and then you tell what you saw, the judge finds you guilty, you pay your fine and go on with life. Your threats of a “desk job” make me laugh. We find amusement that folks call us lazy but then accuse of stopping you for no reason. I have no quota I can write as many as I want. So if I stop you, I am 100% sure you did what I said you did. Now with that said, did you run the light, I don’t know, I give you the benefit of the doubt. But why did you feel compelled to say anything? Are you one of those folks who have the last word or be damned. Were you not just as responsible for that situation as the “Jackbooted Cop”? Its real simple obey the laws of the land. Cops don’t make laws, but they raised their hand and swore to do whatever to enforce them. To include giving their life for you and your family. I hope to hell you never need a policeman, as they will come and do their job in a caring and professional way. But when they leave and your little world is back to normal, where do they go? To another call and another and another and everyone thinks that their problem deserves 100% of that officers care and concern, and they are right. Then they will go to an intersection where some blowhard has ran a red light and hit a car carrying kids home from a soccer game and he/she will have to comfort a family whose child is crumpled and dead. Had to witness that scene more than I wish to remember. But you press on brother, hope you have the chance to put this old cop behind a desk. Bet you can’t!
Richard Heade 1, August 6, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The boys in the monkey suits were still pissed about the 4 pigs that got offed a few months ago. They reacted in typical Nazi fashion. Mixon Now!!!
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Now, Now. Please see the earlier thread of the cop and the cow. We don’t refer to them as pigs anymore. They are now referred to as cowfockers. They are in the circle of trust. You understand that Cows fly over the moon, pis fly and Mr. Ed talks. Ok, so now that we are all om the same page oh Paige yes he is in trouble for that too, but so are a lot of Senators. If you are Barney Frank, then you have to turn your page as oppose to bending the ears. That is a whole nother position.
The boys in the monkey suits were still pissed about the 4 pigs that got offed a few months ago. They reacted in typical Nazi fashion. Mixon Now!!!
Here’s why the author of this article is a fool. 50,000V is “open circuit” meaning sparked without a cartridge. The fat man only recieved 1,200V significantly less than carpet static and several thousand Amperes (the part that actually hurts)less than a christmas tree bulb. Do your research before you write this trash.
BP, learn to spell, you is obfiously unejucated.
Mike S., keep up the good fight.
Also, it should be noted that it’s perfectly legal for a citizen to own a cary a TASER, as well. Everyone should have one. Police would gain new respect for the TASER then.
this is getting to the point in our country that the police feel they are free to mame or even kill us at will. with everything that is going in dc the prez taking over companys . we will all be sent behind a iorn currtin. its time for a revalotion
Cop or not – it takes a COWARD to shoot an unarmed man with a weapon that discharges electrons at 50,000 volts into the human body. They always go for the TASER first because they have jumpy trigger fingers and are just itching to use that manly weapon on an unarmed person (c.f. the 70 year old little old ladies who the big bad police officer TASERs simply because they don’t obey his commands fast enough). COWARDS.
Excuse me: “…Lone nut hunched…”
GLSM,
I sure am glad there are people like Matt on the internet to tell me how wrong my views are without offering any supporting evidence. I can tell by the way he types that he is the epitome of masculinity.
Or he could be some schmuck that thinks we’re stupid enough to not realize that it’s the same person changing his log in name to make it look like he’s not just some lone but hunched over his computer with a bottle of gator-aid and plate of half eaten spaghetti, living out his fantasies of strength and virility through an online persona.
Or he could be a payed shill, although who would have that low of standards and what they’d hope to gain by trolling this website is beyond me.
Wow! I almost fell asleep reading all of those postings. I guess I will add to that volume. I have to agree with Gyges that I did not see a punch thrown. All I saw was that he was resisting their attempts to handcuff him. I have not had to restrain a large man in a small area and I have not been a cop. Of course, I have witnessed abuse by police as far back as 1969. I have been maced and hit with a billy club and a riot stick and I was not beligerant or drunk. I was not disobeying a police officer’s order, but that didn’t stop them from macing and hitting me. Now, do we have to “obey” an illegal order from a police officer who is acting beyond his authority? I also have experienced an unruly person in my office some years ago and I called the police to remove him from the office. The police in their wisdom wanted to take both of us out of my office to discuss the situation and I respectfully informed the officer that I have a legal right to the use of the office and the best way for him to solve the problem was to remove this individual who was not authorized to be in my office. After some discussion the officer finally agreed to take only the offender out in the parking lot. I disobeyed the officer’s original order and yet I didn’t get hit with a stick or maced. The police should use the tazer when their is no other reasonable way to deal with the individual. I did not see these officers at risk when the tazer was used at least twice. Being a jerk does not authorize the Police to use potentially deadly force.
Is Obama going to have another hope meeting?
Matt writes: are any of you expert “Naysayer’s” police officers? No? Then shut up because you have no room to comment on how police do their jobs.
with all due respect…. wait a sec… shove the respect… everyone has room and right to comment on anything they choose to comment on including how police do their jobs.
last time I checked, police worked for the public, not the other way around.
don’t like it?
too bad.
I’m not shutting up. not today. not tomorrow.
I bet Jackko is a quivering baby when contacted by the police. Just another internet tough guy too scared to talk trash in real life. You are a COWARD just like your COWARD president Obama!
are any of you expert “Naysayer’s” police officers? No? Then shut up because you have no room to comment on how police do their jobs.
Ok, Mike S., Buddha, et al,
Why did you not put this up?
really the jerk was being disruptive people are therto enjoy the then he comes along starts yelling