We often run Iranian blogs to show clown-like policies such as requiring Islamic haircuts or mannequin mascetomies. However, it is important to remember the plight of women and dissidents under Iran’s medieval Sharia system. There is no more frightening example than the scheduled stoning of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, 43, for conducting an “illicit relationship outside marriage.” Convicted in May 2006, Ashtiani has already been given 99 lashes under her Sharia sentence.
She was originally acquitted, but under the Iranian “legal system” a judge is allowed to reverse such decisions based on “judge’s knowledge.” She has been in jail for five years and will now be buried up to her neck (men are buried to the waist) and then stoned to death.
Source: Guardian.
This is what Obama is so in love with. Sharia Law also states that if they can get OUT of the hole they wll be spared. That’s why men r only buried to their waist and women are buried to their necks. Read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam by Robert Spencer. Now remember all you racists….Islam is a peaceful religion.
Pity the world if these heartless bastards get the bomb — nobody will be safe. Pity this woman and her two children, whose grief even now must be inexpressible. I wonder if the general population of Iran is even aware of this case; the authorities don’t dare carry out such a death sentence in public. Her worthless husband should be buried up to his waist and stoned right beside her, if not in her place.
Byron, I appreciate your open-mindedness, and wish that Obama were as fair-minded as you are. I recommend Glenn Greenwald at salon.com for the news that the mainstream media ignores about Obama’s continuation of Bush’s policies.
Henry:
thanks for the links, I did a little looking on my own and tend to believe what you say about how many return to battle. the numbers are all over the place from 5% to 25% so it is certainly not the majority. If that is the case then they should be formerly tried and either exonerated and returned home with lost wages or sent to a long prison term.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asH9sUD0A-s
Soraya M.’s husband, Ghorban-Ali, couldn’t afford to marry another woman. Rather than returning Soraya’s dowry, as custom required before taking a second wife, he plotted with four friends and a counterfeit mullah to dispose of her. Together, they accused Soraya of adultery. Her only crime was cooking for a friend’s widowed husband. Exhausted by a lifetime of abuse and hardship, Soraya said nothing, and the makeshift tribunal took her silence as a confession of guilt. They sentenced her to death by stoning: a punishment prohibited by Islam but widely practiced.
http://www.arcadepub.com/book/?GCOI=55970100913860
Henry,
Bush and now Obama have stated that these folks will never be freed, even if they are found innocent or are never charged.
Here’s an article on the “back on the battlefield question”:
http://www.newamerica.net/publications/policy/guantanamo_who_really_returned_battlefield
Here’s an article on the percentage of Guantanamo detainees who are innocent: http://www.slate.com/id/2136422
Or which individual is in question.
hENRY:
I would be most interested in your sources.
It is my understanding that many that have been released have ended up back on the battlefield.
Saudi Arabia supposedly has some sort of program to deprogram them that has a fairly high rate of recidivism.
Sharia Law, from the little I know about it, does not respect individual rights unless you are morally pure, heterosexual, a tea drinker and don’t charge interest on lent money. Seems pretty strict to me and they also don’t seem to care much for women and are allowed to have slaves.
Seems to me they don’t much care about individual rights. But I suppose it just matters what your idea of individual rights is.
Byron, you are ignorant about the prisoners that the U.S. is holding at Guantanamo. The vast majority are known to be innocent, so you don’t know what they are “willing to do.” You also don’t know “how they were captured”: many of them were handed over for ransom. It is you, not they, who do not respect any type of rights.
You call?
Damn! This woman is a genius. She committed adultery all by herself. Amazing. Where is Jesus when you need him?
Bryon,
Wow and what the hell were the goddamn crusades fought for? Positioning and wealth. Screw religion it is all a means to an end, the ultimate Power to decide. The US is as guilty or more so. At least with “THEM” we know that we should watch THEM.
The Rule of Law(s), The Goddamn Constitution, nor any treaty that we have signed an agreed to be bound to matters to those in power in the US. It started long before Bush, Geo the II. Wilson was harangued for wanting to maintain Neutrality, it was not until a merchant marine ship was torpedoed by Germany did we “Officially” get involved. There were plenty of merchant ships doing gun running aided by the US Navy and Coast Guard, providing cover for the “Private” Merchant Marine.
Henry:
It really doesn’t matter if she is guilty or not does it.
The people we have in holding cells are the same ones that are willing to stone this woman. They are lawless and do not respect any type of rights. They only recognize Sharia Law which is no law at all, it is the interpretation of the writings of Quran. So in actuality it is man’s law. Interpreted by whomever is in power to their benefit.
Based on what they are willing to do and how they were captured I have a hard time feeling sorry for them. During WWII they would have been shot on site because they were not wearing uniforms of a specific country. Seems to me our grandfathers knew how to handle things better than we do.
This archaic and inhuman process of enforcing the continued oppression of women, as you know, has not been confined to Iran:
http://thebfdblog.com/2009/03/11/the-alternate-universe-of-islamic-law/
She or her family could be political enemies of Ahmadinejad.
Byron, what makes you think she’s guilty? I imagine that she got the same sort of due process that we give to prisoners at Guantanamo and Bagram.
You would think people would learn to not have affairs with the price to pay so high. What happened to the guy?
More earthquakes!
And the other person/persons involved …?
“She was originally acquitted, but under the Iranian “legal system” a judge is allowed to reverse such decisions based on “judge’s knowledge.” She has been in jail for five years and will now be buried up to her neck (men are buried to the waist) and then stoned to death.”
Wow and tell this to those folks under US control, even outside of Gitmo something different.
In jail for five years, for a crime that she was acquitted of. Yes, I see the difference the lights went out for a moment. It is the US deciding the fate, not Iran, pardon me for not remembering……