Obama Moves Toward Intervention in Libya

Barack Obama has indicated that the United States is considering military intervention in Libya. While this may be an effort to convince Gaddafi (Qadaffi) to leave, the very thought of another military campaign by the United States is alarming. We are continuing to gush billions in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan despite rising anti-American sentiments. In the meantime, our cities and states are near bankruptcy for lack of funds.

I also find the constant stream of Libyan diplomats and officials denouncing Gaddafi to be increasingly irritating — both in their comments and the lack of push back by the media. Libya has a long history of sponsoring terrorism and killing citizens of other countries. However, once Gaddafi begins to shoot at Libyans, these officials are appalled.

My favorite was former Justice Minister Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil, who has denounced Gaddafi and stated in this resignation that he has evidence Gaddafi ordered the bombing that killed 270 people. He promised “I have proof that Gaddafi gave the order for (the) Lockerbie (bombing).”

So let me get this straight. His guy has been lying with the rest of his country for decades in covering up this terror plot. Now that Libyans are being shot, he suddenly tells that truth and denounces Gaddafi? How about the responsibility of himself and his many colleagues who are now being heralded as voices of freedom? I have yet to find a reporter to ask these officials why they were so tolerant of killing people in other countries.

Source: The Independent

Jonathan Turley

36 thoughts on “Obama Moves Toward Intervention in Libya”

  1. A no-fly zone isn’t going to be free, and I’m not talking about the money. Remember Ghaddafi is flying fighter jets and armed helicopters? Enforcing a no-fly zone will cost us blood, and I’m not sure its worth a soldier’s life to do it.

    In fact it will likely be several soldier’s lives; because an effective no-fly zone will necessarily have to be low-cover in order to handle low-flying helicopter gunships. Which, I will note, are gunships. This also exposes our enforcers to ground fire.

    I am glad the Libyans are carrying out this revolution, but I think it is their fight to have. They have enough Libyan soldiers that have turned against Ghaddafi to fight their own fight. I say leave them to it, it looks like they can win with the resources they have. If that changes and it looks like Ghaddafi is regaining the upper hand, then we might think about it again.

    In the meantime, we have enough American caskets heading our way as it is.

  2. “I have yet to find a reporter to asks these officials why they were so tolerant of killing people in other countries”

    You must not of been watching Al Jazeera english. The have done the best reporting so far.

  3. If you want to end the two sides fighting each other, invade and watch them immediately unify against you. You could look it up.

  4. rafflaw

    “Stamford,
    Not my choice of words, but they work!”

    Lol – sorry, I really, really don’t mean to offend anyone but it’s one of those days and my language tends to be more “colorful” on occasion.

  5. Mike S:

    “Then they would never leave, while raping the country of its’ resources.”

    ******************

    I might debate you here. Rome certainly took tribute but it also planted civilization and the rule of law in its dominions. It likewise insured and maintained the peace among the disparate tribes there for hundreds of years. There is some value to empire though it exacts a terrible cost to both emperor and subject state. In this context, it depends purely on a value judgment as to what is most desirable: a state of anarchy with utmost freedom or a state of enforced order with considerably less. It also depends on the stage of political development of the civilization in question. Benign autocracy certainly worked for the British Empire in dealing with less politically developed dominions, who ultimately came to enjoy the benefits of a democratic state.

  6. There’s a lot of evidence that Obama is as much a warmongering president as his predecessor.

    We certainly could not afford our original empire, never mind the wars of the last decade, nor additional trillion-dollar wars in Libya, Iran, and elsewhere in the region. These wars also breed more than resentment; the resulting deaths and occupation represent the largest incitement to terrorism possible.

    Perhaps for Libya we will hear arguments that “humanitarian” interests and regional stability necessitate a war. I have little doubt that the US (under the guise of the UN) will order and participate in the no-fly action, eventually leading to US troops on the ground. Ultimately, of course, we’ll wind up in the middle of a war between age-old factions within Libya, just as we did in Iraq.

    I have found some of the smartest commentary on the region by Eric Margolis. Here is a recent column by Margolis on Libya.

  7. If you were going to let bin laden write America’s script for the last 10 years, I doubt he would alter so much as a comma.

    I don’t believe that OBL could have asked for better allies than President Skippy and his side-kick Dick. All of al-Qeada’s successes resulting from the 9/11 attacks have come via the actions of the president and the government, in my opinion. At least there will be no debate amongst future historians as to who the worst president ever was…

  8. Mike S.,
    Didn’t the domino theory lead to all of Southeast Asia turning communist once Vietnam fell? 🙂

  9. rafflaw,

    “I have no problem if we st up a no-fly zone as long as we pull out of Iraq 100% and pull out of Afghanistan, 100%. Then we can talk about enforcing a no-fly zone. I have no problem protecting the people of Libya, but the former Ghadafi wannebees can look elsewhere for help.”

    DITT-F**KING-O

    The last thing we need is to get involved in another clusterf**k. Especially now.

  10. Any knowledge of Roman history will reveal that time and again they would go into countries to protect the people and keep the peace. Then they would never leave, while raping the country of its’ resources. I hope the people of Libya will destroy Qaddafi and his government. However, the US is not supposed to be the Roman Empire. Our so-called foreign policy elite wise men, are really exceedingly stupid and greedy people, who don’t give a damn about our bloated and misused military. Unfortunately the President seems to have bought into the mythology that America is the peace keeper of the world. Those who truly know how to utilize power wield it sparingly. Those who think they know power, like the DC foreign policy pundits, are really proving their virility and penis size. Our young soldiers deaths and those deaths in invaded nations, collateral damage, put blood on their hands. Their
    blunders are legion and their successes non-existent. Remember the “Domino Theory?” How’d that bit of foreign policy wisdom work out?

  11. JT:

    You seem to expect moral consistency from the immoral — a classic case of what has never been and will never be. I have no problem with the “no fly” zone so long as its UN sanctioned. “If it flies it dies,” sounds good to me.

  12. Yes, let’s attack yet another country, and enter illegal conflict #3 as no war has yet been declared by Congress. Let’s cause even more civilian death by selling arms. Let’s continue to drain the treasury while war crimes go unanswered. And then let us pat each others’ backs as we celebrate how many “jobs we saved” in the “defense industry.” Thank st. jeebus ever so much for the war without end.

    If you were going to let bin laden write America’s script for the last 10 years, I doubt he would alter so much as a comma. We have given those we deliberately manufactured as our enemies exactly what they wanted. We allowed ourselves to be bullied by an idiot-child and a coward into two wars based on everlasting lies. We have permitted our soldiers to fight battles without honor, in our name, to protect our freedom to be obsessed by Charlie Sheen, and to be stolen blind by banks.

    Seat civilian grand juries today. It’s the only way out.

  13. Neocons McCain and Lieberman are criticizing Obama for not getting more involved in Libya.

  14. I really, really hope this is a bluff by President Obama…

    Otherwise, I agree with rafflaw – as long as we pick up our toys in Iraq and Afghanistan, then I have no problem with a play date in Libya, either…

  15. Professor, I am glad you wrote about this story. I am not sure that we will be seeing boots on the ground, but there are discussions about enforcing a no-fly zone. Gen. Mattis is on record that enforcing the no-fly zone is not as easy and clean as some politicians might think.
    I have no problem if we st up a no-fly zone as long as we pull out of Iraq 100% and pull out of Afghanistan, 100%. Then we can talk about enforcing a no-fly zone. I have no problem protecting the people of Libya, but the former Ghadafi wannebees can look elsewhere for help.

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