London and the world is reeling from the video from yesterday of two Muslim men who killed and mutilated the body of an English soldier and then asked people to film them as they raved about their atrocity. The men reportedly screamed “Allah Akbar” as they butchered the soldier. A man now identified as Michael Adebolajo is shown promising onlookers that “you and your kids will be next.” In the midst of this horror scene however there was inspirational moments including a woman who gets off her bus to confront Abebolajo covered in blood and holding a meat cleaver.
In the disturbing video below, Abebolajo proclaims “The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers.” Of course, he did not have the courage to confront the soldier head on. He hit him with his car before butchering him and posing for YouTube. Abebolajo is shown telling viewers “Remove your governments – they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is going to get caught in the street when we start bursting our guns? You think politicians are going to die?”
He warns that more will die and “No, it’s going to be the average guy, like you, and your children. So get rid of them – tell them to bring our troops back so we can… so you can all live in peace.” Abebolajo is known by the Muslim name Mujahid. He adopts the same excuse used throughout the ages by those who use religion to justify their blood lust: “We swear by the almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone. We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.”
He then added a bizarre claim of regret . . . not for the murder of course but the women watching: “I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don’t care about you.”
It was in this disgusting scene of religious violence that a true representative stepped forward. She is mother-of-two Ingrid Loyau-Kennett and was on a bus when the scene unfolded. She got off the bus and, when others were walking by or cowering, she walked up to the killer and demanded that he stop.
One of the killers insisted “We want to start a war in London tonight,” but she replied calmly “Right now it is only you versus many people, you are going to lose.”
Yes they will Ingrid, but it is because for every grotesque monster like these two men, we have Ingrid Loyau-Kennett and human beings like her.
Someone necessarily lend a hand to make severely posts I might state.
That is the first time I frequented your website page
and to this point? I surprised with the research you made to make this actual put up extraordinary.
Fantastic job!
http://nobelwomensinitiative.org/2013/05/blog-ingrid-kennet-demonstrates-necessity-of-everyday-nonviolence-writes-liz-bernstein/?ref=26198
excerpt:
Since my arrival in Belfast yesterday to prepare for our Women Beyond War conference, the UK news has been full of the story of a British soldier who was murdered in Woolwich Barracks in southeast London.
At the scene of the murder on Wednesday, Ingrid Louay-Kennet used nonviolence to defuse and calm a terrifying situation. She got off her bus, and while others took photos, she went to speak to the two men.
As she approached the body, one of the men said ‘Don’t go too close to the body’. She later described it:
“I thought, okay. And because I was down I could see a butcher’s knife and an axe – that’s what he had – and blood. I thought, what the heck? I thought obviously he was a bit excited and the thing was just to talk to him…. I was not scared because he was not drunk, he was not on drugs. He was normal. I could speak to him and he wanted to speak and that’s what we did. …I went to speak to the other man who was quieter and more shy. I asked him if he wanted to give me what he was holding in his hand, which was a knife but I didn’t want to say that. He didn’t agree and I asked him: ‘Do you want to carry on?’ He said: ‘No, no, no.’”
As Anouchka Grose wrote in the Guardian about Ingrid’s actions: “She simply continued to treat the killers as human beings, even showing them kindness…. By acting with phenomenal generosity, grace and understanding, she seems to have helped to contain a situation that may easily have spun out of control.”
so sad
I know. This is what hate does blind to the fact that it is hater blind to the fact that hate ids murder. Blind to the fact that the The King Jamies bible is right when it says,1 John 2 >>
King James Bible 9He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
The people that say they follow sharia law taught in the Qur’an think adamantly that they are in the light, but what do we see?
People know of the following verse that is so often ignored so graphically proven before our eyes.
1 John 3:15;Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
I know. This is what hate does blind to the fact that it is hate. Blind to the fact that hate is murder. Blind to the fact that the The King Jamies bible is right when it says,1 John 2 >>
King James Bible 9He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
The people that say they follow sharia law taught in the Qur’an think adamantly that they are in the light, but what do we see?
People know of the following verse that is so often ignored so graphically proven before our eyes.
1 John 3:15;Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him
nick spinelli 1, May 23, 2013 at 7:04 pm
Sorry I missed your train of thought, Dredd. I should have known it was about Churchill and oil.
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Especially since you used to teach history.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/25/abu-nusaybah-arrested-michael-adebolajo-london-attack_n_3336344.html (” Abu Nusaybah, ‘Friend’ Of London Attack Suspect Michael Adebolajo, Arrested After BBC Interview”)
Barabaric yes.
An act of terrorism, no.
Here’s why:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/23/woolwich-attack-terrorism-blowback
Let those that want a Muslim run country go live in one, they or their families came to Britain, USA, France, Germany, Australia or the like because they were not happy where they were. To force their will on others is not any better than what they accuse others of. Freedom is why they are where they are, they would not have the same rite of expression in Iran, or a similarly run country.
Mespo
One might expect Fox News to be singing a “clash of a 7th century mindset with a 21st century reality” type of song…but…
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/23/riots-in-sweden-raise-questions-about-nation-egalitarian-culture/
What’s going on there seems no differerent to city riots in the UK or the US, as examples.
It’s actually a clash between the 21st century reality of one section of society and the 21st century reality/propaganda of another section.
The Swedish riots have nothing to do with religion.
Look at the London riots of recent times. It’s disaffected (white/Christian) youths and opportunists. Those riots were a lot worse than the current Swedish ones.
If the Swedish riots were about religion/Islam, the trouble would have been there from Day.1
It’s happening now because of societal problems that are not based on religious belief.
mespo:
you seem to understand the threat more than anyone on this blog and you have recognized it for a very long time. How come?
Derren: “Yep, if we leave these people alone and don’t attack them, they will be nice to us. Just like they are nice to their women and children.”
The invasion if Iraq, Afghanistan, etc was undertaken purely as an attempt to make these people be nice to their women and children.
Michael Moore had it right :- ““I am outraged that we can’t kill people in other counties without them trying to kill us!”
“The invasion if Iraq, Afghanistan, etc was undertaken purely as an attempt to make these people be nice to their women and children.”
I thought Afghanistan was invaded because the Afghan government was harboring elements of an organization that attacked US on 9/11.
Iraq was invaded because:
1. Iraq provided material support, or logistics, or intelligence to groups that attacked the US on 9/11.
2. Iraq is trying to build an atomic bomb. Development is imminent within the next two years or so.
3. Iraq has chemical and biological weapons that it might transfer to terrorist client organizations.
4. The road to peace in the middle east runs through Iraq.
5. If we peal off the top 5,000 or 10,000 of the ruling class, government bureaucrats will run the country while the masses conduct an election and implement a western style democracy much like the American revolution.
6. We can transform the middle east by knocking off the top 5 or 7 totalitarian regimes – ‘take a number’.
7. Saddam Husein exploits and terrorizes the people of Iraq and is a threat to neighboring states. Stability in the region requires the removal of Saddam Husein.
8. Iraq intelligence units provided support to terrorist organizations that tried to assassinate the first George Bush.
9. The war will only cost 5 billion, or so, which can easily be paid for from Iraqi oil revenue. After the war Iraqi oil production can be easily ramped up to relieve pressure on world supplies and stabilize global oil prices.
10. DK – don’t know
11. Make up and insert your own answer here: __________________.
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mespo727272
I’m not so sure everyone is focused on what the people are doing and instead might be caught up blaming their creed. I got the reference to the Inquisition and the reverse mindsets (X-tain vs Muslim). sorry about the outburst.
DogBiscuitBoy: “So, why did Britain let this nut into their borders in the first place?”
Both of them were born in Britain.
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“Why do we need emigrants from Chechnia, Armenia, and Tsarboy states?
Close the borders and start over.”
I’ll bet that most people in the ME would like to close the borders so that heavily-armed Western ‘immigrants’ would not invade and kill.
Give this man no label but a cold hearted killer that his is.. don’t let scum like this speak in the name of anyone. .
lottakatz
The dogclan is gonna hate me…
… She got out!!!
Mespo, the situation in Sweden is more complicated than that and has strong elements of class and economics that seem to be in play. That kind of violence can happen anywhere. People talk about a revolution coming, even here. No, it isn’t but I can see riots starting and just this way (if the reports are correct). An act of violence by the police (justified or not) and a demoralized, frustrated local population start throwing things and burning things down. It’s happened here before and frankly I’m surprised it hasn’t happened here again already.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/23/riots-in-sweden-raise-questions-about-nation-egalitarian-culture/
Darren, Islamic militants didn’t start attacking us until the early 80’s, the Iran Iraq war. That’s when we started to get publicly involved as a military force. The Iraqis had evens to get and didn’t want us in Lebanon propping up Christian politicians. Actions/reactions. We continued to get more deeply involved in the region. Reagan was president by then and he took the solar panels off the White House. Somehow that seems relevant and prophetic in hindsight.
I think that there are evens yet to get because there is now a generation of young people like the one in the video above that don’t even have a history, a personal history that puts 911 in perspective, let alone what came before that. can you imagine living in a region of a country where drones are in you sky every day, or JSOC teams are prowling your village every week? O being a child in a country devastated by a war that was simple. corrupt aggression. The tits for tats go back a long way. A line can’t just be drawn between 911 and everything thereafter or previously. 911 was just a tit, or tat, in a long line of them. They are not over. We need a way to break that momentum IMO.
The statement you made says to me that there will continue to be attacks because they, as a culture, don’t measure up to being civilized, as the west would define ‘civilized’. While I may agree that the fundamentalist theocracy that drives many governments in that region are not enlightened nor deserving of any respect for a number of reasons that’s not at all the only dynamic at work. If I’m misreading your posting please correct my misunderstanding.
Max:
We’re pointing out the obvious problem involving a clash of a 7th century mindset with a 21st century reality. Lest you have any doubts about the complete saturation of this code of violence among “those” people you might want to consult the Swedes who are enduring their 5th night of jihad at the hands of these religious anachronisms who feel compelled to reward the most progressive western nation — with all manner of social programs designed to help them — with the burning of schools, police stations, and cars. Advocating toleration of the intolerable doesn’t make one progressive or compassionate merely credulous.
Max,
A word you used was a verb which had the 5-letter word beginning with B as part of the word. That is one of the four words that are filtered. Find a synonym (such as ‘griping’ and it should go through).