We have previously discussed the striking similarity between religious extremists in the Islamic and Jewish faiths. This week we have yet another example after a group of ultra-Orthodox men on a “modesty patrol” attacked a car carrying ultra-Orthodox women who were viewed as dress immodestly. We have previously seen the work of such immodest patrols as well as vigilantes on buses and prayer areas.
During the confrontation, a police car in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Beit Yisrael was attacked and its front and back windshields shattered.
The men not only smashed the car windows with the women inside and punctured its tires but poured fish oil on it.
Source: Times of Israel
Since all Israelis share the same DNA profile, no one should be surprised.
This is just an example of the Jewish version of the Taliban, just like our radical religious right wanting to take over women’s bodies and lives and wanting to replace what’s left of the Constitution with the Bible. Every religion has its wackos, but it becomes a problem when the wackos have a lot of money or political backing.
bigfatmike, I just thought you were doing a Rain Man impersonation.
I would greatly appreciate it someone could delete all but one of my comments.
I posted one comment several time because after several minutes it seemed that the system did not accept the text. I thought the problem was likely with my browser restriction on scripts or possibly a problem with my firewall.
This is a bit embarrassing. While my words are truly wonderful to behold, all we really need is one copy.
Thank you for your kind attention to this matter.
“The difference is, the violence (against non-Muslims) is commanded by the Quran and these Jewish thugs’ behavior is not supported by Judaism.”
Amy,
Your wrong. There is no difference only a similarity. The situation is as Dredd put it: “That source is the hermeneutics used to interpret them.” Hermeneutics is the science of study of religious scriptures. In both instances it is the “interpretations” of the Koran, Torah, Christian Scriptures that have been made by some “religious” people that led to the attacks. These Jewish “thugs” as you rightly call them believe themselves to be righteous people, just as do the Muslim “thugs” and the Christian “thugs”, when they think their scriptures give them the right to attack others who don’t live up to their personal interpretation of their religion’s scriptures.
I see by your link that you style yourself as a:
“Syndicated science-based advice columnist w/science-based radio show; author, I SEE RUDE PEOPLE: One woman’s battle to beat some manners into impolite society”
Surely as someone who is “science-based” you have heard of and understand the meaning of hermeneutics. As for being science-based, one would hope you have some knowledge therefore of the social sciences, therefore understanding that most of this “thuggishness” comes from the extremes of these three religions and the behavior is correctly called fanaticism. I’m sure you give wonderful advice, but try sticking to areas where you have some expertise, or perhaps learn enough self-awareness to question the pre-judgments that appear to cloud your views.
The favor of your reply is requested, or else I would have to conclude that your varied comments here are merely to publicize your own enterprise, rather than a serious attempt to join in the discussion.
What a rich person that will be… the one who invents the Pill to cure the Religion ”Infection”………
” exactly where and for how long (in years) have you studied Islam and the Quran?”
If we are to believe news reports several Islamic nations have ‘Committees for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice’ or similar groups that enforce Islamic standards. In some communities the efforts are less organized and enforcement seems to be by groups of bully boys. Their efforts are not limited to modesty for women but include other standards such as hair length for men and activities such as driving (for women) and consumption of alcohol.
It seems to me that when we consider the religion, whether Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, or any other, we ought to consider:
the religious texts recognized by followers of the faith,
the theology as understood by recognized scholars of that faith
religious practice recognized as legitimate by most religious leaders
religious custom as recognized by most followers of the faith.
and possibly other facts related to the religion.
The fact that a standard, a practice or a pattern of behavior is not described in a recognized religious text doe not mean that the pattern of behavior is not a part of common practice of the religion.
We have clear evidence that many Islamic communities enforce religious standards on the general population.
In contrast to the common practice in many Islamic communities, many other communities consider it an aberration or unlawful when religious groups attempt to enforce their religious standards on the general population.
That is a significant difference that ought to concern anyone who values individual choice.
Spray their beards with Bacon Fat……….
” exactly where and for how long (in years) have you studied Islam and the Quran?”
If we are to believe news reports several Islamic nations have ‘Committees for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice’ or similar groups that enforce Islamic standards. In some communities the efforts are less organized and enforcement seems to be by groups of bully boys. Their efforts are not limited to modesty for women but include other standards such as hair length for men and activities such as driving (for women) and consumption of alcohol.
It seems to me that when we consider the religion, whether Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, or any other, we ought to consider:
the religious texts recognized by followers of the faith,
the theology as understood by recognized scholars of that faith
religious practice recognized as legitimate by most religious leaders
religious custom as recognized by most followers of the faith.
and possibly other facts related to the religion.
The fact that a standard, a practice or a pattern of behavior is not described in a recognized religious text doe not mean that the pattern of behavior is not a part of common practice of the religion.
We have clear evidence that many Islamic communities enforce religious standards on the general population.
In contrast to the common practice in many Islamic communities, many other communities consider it an aberration or unlawful when religious groups attempt to enforce their religious standards on the general population.
That is a significant difference that ought to concern anyone who values individual choice.
” deep Quranic knowledge”
If we are to believe news reports several Islamic nation have ‘Committees for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice’ or similar groups that enforce Islamic standards. In some communities the efforts are less organized and enforcement seems to be by groups of bully boys. Their efforts are not limited to modesty for women but include other standards such as hair length for men and activities such as driving (for women) and consumption of alcohol.
It seems to me that when we consider the religion, whether Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, or any other, we ought to consider:
the religious texts recognized by followers of the faith,
the theology as understood by recognized scholars of that faith
religious practice recognized as legitimate by most religious leaders
religious custom as recognized by most followers of the faith.
and possibly other facts related to the religion.
The fact that a standard, a practice or a pattern of behavior is not described in a recognized religious text doe not mean that the pattern of behavior is not a part of common practice of the religion.
We have clear evidence that many Islamic communities enforce religious standards on the general population.
In contrast to the common practice in many Islamic communities, many other communities consider it an aberration or unlawful when religious groups attempt to enforce their religious standards on the general population.
That is a significant difference that ought to concern anyone who values individual choice.
” deep Quranic knowledge”
If we are to believe news reports several Islamic nation have ‘Committees for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice’ or similar groups that enforce Islamic standards. In some communities the efforts are less organized and enforcement seems to be by groups of bully boys. Their efforts are not limited to modesty for women but include other standards such as hair length for men and activities such as driving (for women) and consumption of alcohol.
It seems to me that when we consider the religion, whether Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, or any other, we ought to consider:
the religious texts recognized by followers of the faith,
the theology as understood by recognized scholars of that faith
religious practice recognized as legitimate by most religious leaders
religious custom as recognized by most followers of the faith.
and possibly other facts related to the religion.
The fact that a standard, a practice or s pattern of behavior is not described in a recognized religious text doe not mean that the pattern of behavior is not a part of common practice of the religion.
We have clear evidence that many Islamic communities enforce religious standards on the general population.
In contrast to the common practice in many Islamic communities, many other communities consider it an aberration or unlawful when religious groups attempt to enforce their religious standards on the general population.
That is a significant difference that ought to concern anyone who values individual choice.
http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
” exactly where and for how long (in years) have you studied Islam and the Quran?”
If we are to believe news reports several Islamic nation have ‘Committees for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice’ or similar groups that enforce Islamic standards. In some communities the efforts are less organized and enforcement seems to be by groups of bully boys. Their efforts are not limited to modesty for women but include other standards such as hair length for men and activities such as driving (for women) and consumption of alcohol.
It seems to me that when we consider the religion, whether Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, or any other, we ought to consider:
the religious texts recognized by followers of the faith,
the theology as understood by recognized scholars of that faith
religious practice recognized as legitimate by most religious leaders
religious custom as recognized by most followers of the faith.
and possibly other facts related to the religion.
The fact that a standard, a practice or a pattern of behavior is not described in a recognized religious text doe not mean that the pattern of behavior is not a part of common practice of the religion.
We have clear evidence that many Islamic communities enforce religious standards on the general population.
In contrast to the common practice in many Islamic communities, many other communities consider it an aberration or unlawful when religious groups attempt to enforce their religious standards on the general population.
That is a significant difference that ought to concern anyone who values individual choice.
Prof.: “We have previously discussed the striking similarity between religious extremists in the Islamic and Jewish faiths.”
Add Christian, see your previous comment
Lrobby99 1, June 7, 2013 at 8:25 am
Amy the Quranic Law expert. So, tell us Amy, exactly where and for how long (in years) have you studied Islam and the Quran? Because I know, I just know, your deep, deep Quranic knowledge could not have just come from a few R. Wing hate sites. Tell me it isn’t so.
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The texts of the Bible and the Quran are not the source of wobbly doctrine.
That source is the hermeneutics used to interpret them.
Like our courts interpret statutes.
The wobbly heads come to different conclusions on the exact same text.
For example, the Pharisees and Sadduccees (ancient Judiasim BI – before Islam) had a long time Shia-Sunni type argument about whether uncleanness flowed up the liquid when it was poured from a kosher vessel into an unclean vessel.
And then, of course, there are those wonderfully joyous Westboro “Christians” with whom dolts like her would fit right in. Dolts like her are every bit as biggoted as Klansmen who also spouted empirical proof of the justness of their cause. Her problem would have been putting the eye holes to the front.
thanks lrobby, Amy pops in here to display her total lack of understanding anytime there is a post she can spout ignorance about Islam or the Quran. It is tiresome.
I live about 2 miles from a fundamentalist Christian church, its a small congregation, I would guess fewer than 200 active members, that requires modest dress. Occasionally in the summer I see a few of their them out on Sundays trying to hand out pamphlets and actively haranguing women running biking or walking the parkway with OT verses condemning them for not covering up.
This sickness invades every religion & can always be supported by the writings of their beliefs. It gets out of hand when it has the governments support.
Amy the Quranic Law expert. So, tell us Amy, exactly where and for how long (in years) have you studied Islam and the Quran? Because I know, I just know, your deep, deep Quranic knowledge could not have just come from a few R. Wing hate sites. Tell me it isn’t so.
The difference is, the violence (against non-Muslims) is commanded by the Quran and these Jewish thugs’ behavior is not supported by Judaism.
What a waste of good fish oil… Now that’s crazy…. At least fish oil is useful…