Submitted by Elaine Magliaro, Weekend Contributor
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher and scofflaw, was hailed by some people as a folk hero and patriot recently when he—and his followers–engaged in a standoff with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Caty Enders (Esquire) described the scene in Bunkerville, Nevada, as pundits and politicians descended on the Bundy camp last week “to throw in their American flag hats with the BLM protestors.” She said that a FOX News van had been parked by the side of the road for days—and that “militia snipers kept a trained watch” up on a ridge “as Bundy held court.” She added that disciples of Bundy came from far and wide “to share their personal theories as to why the government was enforcing a court order.”
Bundy has had a number of advocates who have spoken in support of his militant stance against the BLM. Those advocates included some prominent politicians and members of the media. Sean Hannity was one of Bundy’s biggest boosters and helped to make him into a folk hero. Hannity talked with Bundy on a number of occasions on his Fox News show. Joan Walsh (Salon) asked a pertinent question about Bundy on Friday: “How does a guy who declared early on ‘I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing’ become a folk hero in the first place?” She said that both Hannity and Fox News should have realized that the Nevada rancher was “too toxic” prior to his “ongoing self-exposure as a racist.” She added that the extremism of Bundy’s statement about the US government “should have been warning enough that Bundy was not only crazy but dangerous…”
Enders posed a question that was in the same vein as Walsh’s: “Exactly how difficult was it, though, to determine pretty early on that Bundy and his followers were using the threat of force to back up some terrifyingly misguided beliefs?” Enders provided some insight into the thinking and beliefs of Bundy and disciples of his with whom she talked.
Members of the Bundy Brigade Speak Out
Enders spoke to a militia member named Mark who was affiliated with the Oath Keepers group. Mark explained to her “the truth behind public land management.” He said, “The assumption is that the BLM is part of the federal government. But we need to check the facts on that one. The BLM doesn’t work for the government: they work for the United Nations. They might as well be wearing blue helmets. If we find out there’s money being exchanged between Harry Reid and the Chinese government, no one should be surprised.”
Another Bundy disciple told Enders that “Bar-certified lawyers, like the ones who prosecuted Bundy, have sworn loyalty to the British government, whose statutes encourage sex with clients. ‘That’s what they do with all their clients.’”
Enders spent time talking to a former cop who chuckled as he related a story about one of his buddies who once worked as a sheriff in New Mexico. He said his buddy got into some trouble after he pulled over a group of illegals one night. He said his pal “didn’t have room to haul ‘em all, so he put a chain around their neck and put a padlock through it, went to the next one, then he chained ‘em to a tree!” Enders said that the former cop then buckled with laughter as he told her how his friend “left ‘em and went to town to get his pickup to haul ‘em all back in. So, you might imagine, that didn’t play well — ha! You’re a young’un, but everything wasn’t against the law, way back when.” The former cop also told Enders that it was now being proved that the Bureau of Land management was acting on orders “from Troy and Harry Reid, who want to build a solar farm on the land — or a wind farm.”
One of Bundy’s disciples drove a beige sedan covered with the following message:
IF YOU WERE BORN IN 1980 AND AFTER. YOU MAY BE IMPLANTED WITH A GOVERNMENT MICROCHIP WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE: GOOGLE DOCTORS THAT REMOVE MICROCHIPS.
Cliven Bundy, God’s Messenger
During the time that Enders spent at the Bundy camp, she witnessed one of the public addresses the Nevada rancher made to his followers. She said that as Bundy—who had just been given a standing ovation—took the stage, he didn’t seem pleased. She said that Bundy reproached the crowd “for failing to follow the word of God – to the letter …”— which he claimed was being “delivered through him.” He wasn’t happy that his supporters failed “to follow his instructions to tear down the toll booths at Lake Mead and disarm the Park Service.” Bundy added, “The message I gave to you all was a revelation that I received. And yet not one of you can seem to even quote it.” He continued, “The records of our bible — how long have they been kept? Thousands of years. They’ve been turned over generation after generation, buried, and all kinds of things happen to ‘em. And yet, here, something I felt was inspired [by God] and yet we haven’t even carried it forth for even a couple of days. Shame on us.”
Bundy expressed frustration because his followers hadn’t been able to deter the BLM “within an hour”—“as the revelation had prophesied.” When an hour had passed, Bundy reportedly got into his bulldozer and decided to march on the BLM himself. His dozer got stuck in the mud—and that led to Bundy’s receiving yet another revelation: “It come to my mind real plain — the good Lord said, ‘Bundy, it’s not your job, it’s THEIR job.’” Bundy reiterated that revelation a little differently in an effort to ensure that his followers understood what he had just told them, “This is not my job, it’s YOUR job.”
Bundy said that he received a message that morning after he prayed. He claimed that he heard a voice say, “Sheriff Gillespie, your work is not done. Every sheriff across the United States, take the guns away from the United States bureaucrats.”
Uncivil Disobedience
Even The Weekly Standard–as well as Glenn Beck–has been critical of Cliven Bundy. The magazine’s Scrapbook explained the whole Bundy situation with regard to grazing fees and court rulings. The Scrapbook said that what had transpired over the years didn’t sound “like the dread hand of tyranny, in Nevada or Washington, oppressing an innocent farmer, or pushing some law-abiding citizen around.” It said it sounded, instead, “like a rancher gaming the system to his own financial advantage, and disguising his scheme in populist rhetoric: refusing to pay a tax which others must pay, and ‘tying up the courts’—for two decades!—as he continues to ignore the law.”
The Weekly Standard:
Far from acting in an arbitrary or capricious manner, the federal government has shown patience and forbearance in the face of lawlessness that customarily lands people in jail. It is worth noting that Bundy’s rancher-neighbors and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association, who contend with the same federal policies, offer him little support.
Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 1 (The Daily Show)
Apocalypse Cow – Welfare Rancher, Part 2 (The Daily Show)
SOURCES
Fox News’ new laughingstock: Cliven Bundy — and Stephen Colbert — will destroy Sean Hannity (Salon)
Uncivil Disobedience (The Weekly Standard)
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Biased sources.
http://www.workerscompensation.com/compnewsnetwork/workers-comp-blogwire/18460-5-workers-compensation-myths.html
My apologies, ~$700 per family.
The report can be found on fbi.gov.
FBI statistics have estimated insurance fraud to be an annual $40 billion dollar drain on every law abiding citizen in this country. It costs every person in this country ~700/year. So, there’s that.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/workplace/etc/fraud.html
The myth of Worker’s Compensation Fraud. A dangerous business.
Oy, my lumbago is worse than yours! 🙄
Your rates keep going up in part because of fraud. That is, in part why your homeowner’s insurance, auto insurance, professional liability insurance, med malpractice insurance, etc. goes up.
feynman,
Haven’t you had a conversation recently with the “Mad Hater” too?
😉
It is worker’s compensation, not workman’s compensation, and has been since the 1980’s. You are audited yearly because premiums are based on salary. It is a pain in the ass but everyone has to do it. I paid 6 figures in WC premiums over 30 years and never had a claim. I could have made claims but it was my business and I chose to work through pain, as I videotaped people claiming to be in pain, golfing, gardening, boxing, water skiing, you name it.
Nick Spinelli:
“It is worker’s compensation, not workman’s compensation, and has been since the 1980′s. You are audited yearly because premiums are based on salary. It is a pain in the ass but everyone has to do it. I paid 6 figures in WC premiums over 30 years and never had a claim. I could have made claims but it was my business and I chose to work through pain, as I videotaped people claiming to be in pain, golfing, gardening, boxing, water skiing, you name it”.
Thanks Emperor. 🙂
It is shame to notice that you have been wrong so many times but too insecure to admit it, Mr. I am always right.
In fact it is called in either/both ways. It pays to learn. 🙂
http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/workmans-comp-question-1.html
“What Is Workers’ Compensation, or Workman’s Comp?
Workers compensation settlement claims and workmans comp benefits information”.
Enjoy it Emperor and you may put back your clothes on.
Elaine and Scott,
Sorry guys, I’m at the bottom of this rabbit hole and I can’t hear you. I’ve just had a conversation with the Mad Hatter and I’m told the Red Queen is after my head. This is very unsettling, indeed.
Scott interesting to see in print what so many of us here have figured out and try to address.
As for William Kristol, neocon mass murderer extrodinaire…
[note that the FCC granted The Daily Show a waiver to say the word “Bullshit” when professor Frankfurt was on the show to discuss his book]
“…bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can eventually undermine the practitioner’s capacity to tell the truth in a way that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.”
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html
“as some blame him here even for the leaking faucet in their bathroom?”
Up here in upper Appalachia, they blame him for the potholes, despite the fact that the GOP has voted against every infrastructure bill that came up.
When I point that out to them, they get really mad and yell and stuff. It’s fun.
Teji Malik:
“difference between a moocher and a lazy moocher?”
Hmm.. good question. I guess some moochers work harder at being a moocher than others?
I have been paying Workman’s Comp Insurance since 1989 and none of my employees have ever filed for the claim. Does anyone know why do I have to be audited by the private insurance companies every year, which means a standard letter from my accountant (otherwise my rates will go up more than projected)and even after the audit,why do my rates keep on going up? Must be the free market, I guess. Or is it Obama’s fault as some blame him here even for the leaking faucet in their bathroom?
Nick, worker’s comp is temporary, varying from state to state, run by the states, and it is only for injuries at work. If you are permanently disabled, you get on Social Security Disability, which is federal. There are also state disability programs for people hurt not on the job, and those are temporary as well.
Nick: “I never called anyone a “lazy moocher.” That is a lie.”
OK, Nick. You didn’t use those words. You simply suggested, with no supporting evidence and contrary to the evidence you were shown, that Obama opened the flood gates of corruption and fraud in the SSD system for all these people that you know for a fact who are making a whole lot of money on disability.
You were disingenuous. You committed fallacy after fallacy.
And then you called me a liar for taking some liberty with what you said, even though I most certainly got the spirit right for someone who, in response to Annie saying people die waiting for disability:
“People waiting for the bus. People die waiting to be seated in a restaurant. People die waiting for the bathroom. People die waiting for Guffman”
feynman,
They say that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
😉
Worker’s Comp. is not always temporary, Scott. If you are found to be permanently and totally disabled it is until you are 65.