“What Cuts?” : China Demands Financial and Legal Concessions For New Greenhouse Gas Reductions While India Steadfastly Refuses Any Cuts

earth-screensaver_large220px-AlfedPalmersmokestacksChina has long proven to be one of the most destructive nations on Earth for the environment from air pollution that is diminishing the air quality of nations across the ocean to an insatiable market for endangered species products. After President Obama challenged China (the leading producer of greenhouse gases in the world) to match reductions of the West in carbon emission reductions, China refused and demanded massive payments, including Intellectual Property concessions, to convince it to make even greater cut in its pollution. Despite its ascendance into the top of world economics, China continues to suggest that it is another “developing country” and that the West should make the major economic sacrifices for environment. China did commit setting new limits domestically and will be working on joint projects with the United States. The United States has not been a leader in this area for some time but President Obama’s remarks were welcomed by the world environmental community. Conversely, India’s Environmental Minister summed up the obstructionist position of his country by asking “What cuts? That’s for more developed countries. The moral principle of historic responsibility cannot be washed away.” Well, given the rate of rising pollution in India, it will be hard to see anything, let alone cuts, if his country maintains this destructive policy.

New studies show the pollutants are increasing in China as well as other nations. The change is significant:

According to the Nature Geoscience review, the world’s emissions in 2013 were 5 metric tons per person. China’s were 7.2 metric tons per person, the U.S. produced 16.4, the EU produced 6.8, and India produced 1.9. In 1990, China produced 2.2 metric tons per person, and the United States produced 19.1.

In a document submitted to the Geneva-based U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), China said that any reductions in its pollution will be “dependent on the adequate finance and technology support provided by developed country parties” in any new climate accord. In the ultimate holdup pitch, China demands incentive payments from “new, additional, adequate, predictable and sustained public funds.” In this new demand, China insists that the promised $100 billion in annual climate financing from the West is only the “starting point.” In another transparent demand, China wants the removal of “obstacles such as IPRs [intellectual property rights]” to “promote, facilitate and finance the transfer” of “technologies and know-how” to developing countries in advance of any future climate deal. Chinese citizens are choking on air pollution and some of us no longer go to China because of the continual shroud of brown air across cities and towns.

China did state that it was moving to curtail its carbon emissions but refused to accept the type of cuts demanded from the United States and Western countries. So it is not all bad news. China is putting caps into its next five-year plan and has been investing greater amounts in abatement.

The Chinese commitment is still greater than those of India which continues to refuse to reduce its emissions.

37 thoughts on ““What Cuts?” : China Demands Financial and Legal Concessions For New Greenhouse Gas Reductions While India Steadfastly Refuses Any Cuts”

  1. Yep, that’s exactly what it is. John seems to hate “collectivists, progressives, leftists and liberals”, yet he oddly keeps praising China’s policies. Last I heard, they were still Communists. And no Karen, we should NOT emulate China.

  2. Karen, ask your buddy John how he feels about forced abortion, or selective abortion in China and India.

  3. I sure wish China would clean up its act. In atmosphere and our oceans, we have the tragedy of the commons, where one country pollutes the air and water that we all share. What I dislike about this over-emphasis on carbon emissions is that it typically ignores the other toxic sludge they pollute.

    Darren – good idea.

  4. Looks like China is learning from its neighbor North Korea in how to extort money out of the international community.

    How about this: Cut them off from raw materials and coal until they clean up their act.

  5. China has the funds to do it themselves. Just like Saudi Arabia has the money to buy their own military hardware without aid from the US. I sense a trend here.
    Carbon and depleted uranium, I imagine.

  6. If the West is indeed taking control of the world’s petroleum resources, it would behoove other countries to develop defensive systems that use renewable energy. It would then behoove the West to do the same and to disallow the use of the petroleum resources it controls.

    No doubt there is quite a bit of carbon entering the atmousphere from Iraq and Syria this week.

  7. I have an idea. Lets start manufacturing stuff in the US and boycott the trash they make in China. Lets tell APPLE and the others to make their products in the US or we won’t buy them. Boycott Chinese goods. Buy American.

    1. Justice Holmes – I have not bought anything Apple since the ’80s. However, it is hard to boycott Chinese goods because so many American goods are made in China. Personally I am a fan of Korean goods. 🙂

  8. Why should they…..my he production of computer tech and textile mfg has been moved to places in India…. They need more time to pollute….

  9. I can tell you that China is working on developing their own gas powered turbines. This will help reduce their pollution by about 50% over the coal fired plants. It takes time and money though, but they will get there.

  10. Well then, the US needs to step up its game. We need to stop using all carbon based fuels. We need to stop all economic growth, become raw vegans, not just get off the grid, dismantle the grid. Then we can compensate for the countries that are taking over the economy of the world anyways.

  11. Perhaps they should be included in some of the Gxx encounters so that they will feel part of the American Empire:

    The G8 Nations are meeting again.

    Those nations are France (65,073,482), United States (306,869,000), United Kingdom (61,612,300), Russia (142,008,838), Germany (82,060,000), Japan (127,433,494), Italy (60,045,068), and Canada (33,708,000), which together have a population of about 878,810,182 people.

    That G-8 population figure represents about 15% of the earth’s population which is about 6,000,000,000 people.

    Which means that 85% of the world population is left out of G8 summits.

    China (1,500,000,000) and India (1,200,000,000) were not there, even though those two nations alone represent about 45% of the earth’s population.

    (The Evolution of Cosmic Adults).

  12. I would agree with China that they are still a developing nation. However, they need to get a handle on some of their pollution because they are killing off part of their population or shorting their lives.

  13. According to your statistics the US is still, by far the greatest polluter, per capita. Hard to come across as a leader in pollution control with numbers like that.

    One way to approach this is to create a tax on items imported from all countries that have a per capita number above an agreed upon limit.

    It is also important to factor in population and concentration of pollution vis a vis population. China has four + times the population of the US so country to country it would be US 16.4 to China 30+. The issue is not per capita but pollution by the ton. Statistics can always be fudged, just look at our government.

  14. Today the President released a statement about China and India’s refusal to join the world in cutting emissions:

    “The United States is sorry for asking China and India to act like world powers and reduce emissions in an effort to help all countries life a cleaner, healthier life and leave the planet in a better state for future generations. That’s why I’ve directed that additional money be given to these two countries to help them offset their pollution generating industries, as well as ordered a reduction in all tariffs, both monitary and regulatory, that would prevent products made in these two countries from entering the US marketplace at a low cost. In this way the United States and the world can benefit from the cheap goods produced in toxic spewing factories. I hope the world and people can join me in thanking China and India in producing low cost goods that are so detrimental to the health of people world wide.
    Media Note – For further information contact the press office that will promptly tell you to submit your story and questions three days in advance of publication. They will re-write your story in accordance with current White House guidelines and return it to you when they feel like it”.

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