Saudi Arabia is about to add another victim to its adherence to the medieval Sharia law system imposed by the Kingdom. Karl Andree, 74, is a sick asthmatic Englishman who has survived three periods of cancer treatment. He has already been held in prison for a year but will now face 350 lashes . . . for having homemade wine. He has been held for a year despite that fact that his wife Verity is dying of Alzheimer’s — all under the Kingdom’s insistence on carrying out the tenets of Islamic morality codes.
Andree is the grandfather of seven and lived in Saudi Arabia for 25 years while working in the oil industry. One could certainly accept that Saudi Arabia has a right to impose jail after Andree was arrested in Jeddah with bottles of home-made wine in his car. However, he was sentenced not just to 12 months in jail and flogging.
The flogging of this elderly sick man is a disgrace and the very essence of immorality. While the United States (correctly) denounces ISIS and Iran for their cruel application of Islamic law, it is important to note that our closest allies continue to impose similar punishments that shock the conscience.
Annie
Were the photos of the men, lined up at the beach, prior to their mass beheadings, fake, as well? How about the video of a Jordanian pilot, in a cage, doused with gasoline and set afire, while still alive? All fake? Just a figment of the West’s imagination? What would convince you that this photo is real? Answer: nothing. No amount of cites, on the part of Lida N, would convince you. Whatever she would provide would be met, on your part, with disdain. You ask for proof, but you would not accept whatever proof that she could provide, and you know that.
“Incredible that you are defending a jihadis radical Muslim.”
Excuse me? By saying the photos are a fake I’m “defending” this man? I don’t defend murderers of any ethnicity or religion. Lisa get a grip. In the meantime I’d be happy to see your websites that prove this is a real photo.
“The picture of Mohammed Fazl with the severed heads is a fake. One might hope that such photos would be verified as being real before posting in a comment. If this were to have been true it would’ve been plastered all over the MSM.”
MSM wouldn’t plaster anything that belies the Muslim in the White House. Yeah right. Lol
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The picture of Mohammed Fazl with the severed heads is a fake. One might hope that such photos would be verified as being real before posting in a comment. If this were to have been true it would’ve been plastered all over the MSM.”
Incredible that you are defending a jihadis radical Muslim. I can site you as many other web sites, claiming this is real. Wow!
I suppose that I am capable of understanding that someone, in a valiant effort to provide financially for his family, would consciously decide to work in this stinkhole of a country. Okay, I get it. I even admire the devotion of trying to earn a decent living, but only to a certain extent. What I don’t get is this Brit’s or Englishman’s insistence on continuing to remain there, in Saudi Arabia, past his required duty to his employer. What prevented him from taking his wife back to his home country, where he could get snookered to his heart’s content? Note, he’s still referred to as a Brit and an Englishman in the article, despite his Saudi residency of a quarter of a century. He will never be a Saudi. He will always be regarded as a stranger in a strange land in Saudi Arabia. Why he and his wife wouldn’t have hightailed it out of there, the moment that it was humanly possible, is a mystery to me. If wants to behave like an old Brit or Englishman, making wine in his bathtub, he has been in that society quite long enough to fully comprehend the risks and dangers associated with that illegal behavior. His bouts with asthma and cancer, while sad and unfortunate, don’t prevent him from fully appreciating the strict and draconian Saudi laws. His plight, along with that of his wife, is heartbreaking. The pursuit of money comes with its costs.
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http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/fazl.asp
The picture of Mohammed Fazl with the severed heads is a fake. One might hope that such photos would be verified as being real before posting in a comment. If this were to have been true it would’ve been plastered all over the MSM.
I agree with Justice Holmes. I further agree with him in his 1927 opinion in Buck v. Bell about three generations of idiots. Enough is enough. But I will add this. We should not let Muslims drink alcohol in the United States. It is against their Sharia Law. Since they want their law enforced in other countries then enforce it on the alcohol thing. If any of you go to Europe to a large city go watch the drunk Muslims in the bars. They are terrible. The cathouses in Amsterdam do not let them in.
Do you trust Obama to let in a 10,000 refugees! Look at his record, he let this man out of gitmo and he’s back at it again. How do we know he won’t be part of the refugees that Obama wants to come here?
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“So why exactly do we want people from these barbarous countries to emigrate here?”
Bingo! Yet they also do not follow our laws and even try to change them here. A group of Muslims tried to do that in Irving, Tx, by having a sharia law court, which was shut down by the mayor and city council.
Then they tried to embarrass them by sending a Muslim kid to a local school with a 1985 circuit board claiming it was a radio. When this kids older sister was expelled from that same school for a bomb threat a couple years ago. The father of these kids is very involved with CAIR.
Just think what it will be like if our Muslim president lets in non Christian Muslim so called refugees.
Don’t forget they are about to take a seat on the UN human rights council. They are such a “bastion” of human rights aren’t they?
This is on him. He is old enough to know better and had been there long enough to know the rules.
And under three strikes we put a 20-year-old in prison for life for possessing a drug which can be used legally in some states. I don’t think we should be quite so quick to castigate other countries, countries which imprison a small fraction of their population compared to that which we do, for the inhumanity of their laws.
As is the reality in ALL countries, the connected are immune to the law. The Royal family in The Kingdom are known drinkers.
Why westerners continue to flock to these insane countries is beyond me! Why Corproations continue to deal with them is beyond me. Money is the only reason. Of course this is barbarous. Saudi Arabia is a barborous country and has ever been so and yet our leaders embrace these guys and pour money into the country and do their dirty work for them in the MIDDLE EAST. Our theocrats covet the power religion has over the Saudi people.
This is the culture for which we are daily told we must be tolerant and accepting. There is nothing irrational about the fear of Islam. It is a brutal religion particularly when it forms the basis of government policy and its justice system.
So why exactly do we want people from these barbarous countries to emigrate here?
There is a lesson in all of this. When you are living abroad, don’t screw around. If you don’t know the laws where you are – find out!
Example: Marijuana – A Risky Past Time in South Korea and Taiwan
A U.S. teacher was busted by the Korean police for marijuana. Apparently he had been teaching in Korea for six years and had a job at a university,
which is the most coveted type of position. He was sentenced…to twenty years. Yes…there may have been extenuating circumstances, it may have been
from something more than just testing positive for THC but the fact remains that it is a risky endeavor to partake in cannabis use in South Korea.
In 2005 a Canadian ESL teacher in Taiwan was charged with drug possession and faced the death penalty. He was caught with more than just marijuana but it certainly shows how the laws differ.
So morality is a set of laws that people are expected to follow. However, there is no universal agreement on what should be included in those laws, how they should be enforced, appropriate punishment for violating them, or ways of escaping punishment. While “god” has allegedly “dictated” laws and punishments, apparently she has dictated them differently to different groups and individuals. Some countries, groups, and individuals believe they are above the law because they have more weapons, more money, more intelligence, or are god’s chosen people. In effect, everyone operates on moral relativism as far as their own behavior is concerned and but demands moral absolutes for other people.
One assumes that after 25 years of living in the country he knew and understood the laws under which he was living, including those regarding alcohol, which is a major prohibition in any form of Islam, and the penalty for violating the law in Saudi Arabia, which is common not only to that nation but is also carried out in nearly every other Sharia-observant country in the Middle East. Every employee who is sent to the region is warned about this prior to his travel overseas. “Ridiculous legalism?” Not any more so than some of the U.S. “blue laws” that remain in effect in some states to this day. One does not have to agree with the law to understand it exists and respect it.
Did he not already know that it was illegal to do so in that part of the world?
This is pure ridiculous legalism.