Saudi Arabia is about to add another victim to its adherence to the medieval Sharia law system imposed by the Kingdom. Karl Andree, 74, is a sick asthmatic Englishman who has survived three periods of cancer treatment. He has already been held in prison for a year but will now face 350 lashes . . . for having homemade wine. He has been held for a year despite that fact that his wife Verity is dying of Alzheimer’s — all under the Kingdom’s insistence on carrying out the tenets of Islamic morality codes.
Andree is the grandfather of seven and lived in Saudi Arabia for 25 years while working in the oil industry. One could certainly accept that Saudi Arabia has a right to impose jail after Andree was arrested in Jeddah with bottles of home-made wine in his car. However, he was sentenced not just to 12 months in jail and flogging.
The flogging of this elderly sick man is a disgrace and the very essence of immorality. While the United States (correctly) denounces ISIS and Iran for their cruel application of Islamic law, it is important to note that our closest allies continue to impose similar punishments that shock the conscience.
Edward
There is a difference between a fake, staged photo, and a photo, where the only problem is misidentifying the name of the guy smiling behind bloody, decapitated heads. Not that complicated. Big deal. So it’s not Mohammed, it’s his cousin Abdul or his brother Ahmed. The bottom line is that these barbaric throwbacks run around beheading people for kicks, using religion as a justification. His f’ing name is irrelevant.
Joel, you seem to be mashing some sour grapes, let it go bro. This is an interesting subject, let’s not ruin it with personal attacks.
Annie sez, ” The llivelink article states that the photo is real, ” at 12:36 pm
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KCFleming
1, October 14, 2015 at 11:37 am
Annie, you’re missing the point, which is not the identity of the Islamic beheader, but the fact that it was the Islamic barbarians, again, responsible for barbarous behaviors, and we are inviting them into this country.
I visited America in the 1950s on a spy mission from Planet Remulak. I was stationed in Selma, Alabama to watch some activity there. I saw a lynching there of a black human who had only spoken to a white human. He had said Hello. Nothing sexual or out of sorts. Americans now look down on the animals in the muddle east but they should remember their own history of not so long ago. And you “northerners” in the Untited States should not be so smug. There is a book published called Sundown Towns by an author named Loewen. Read it folks. In the 1970s I was in Cairo, Illinois and their city council and Mayor were all members of a political party called The White Citizens Council. Yep. A case involving that made it to the U.S. Supreme Court. Kendrick v. Walder.
I don’t understand the pushback regarding the fake photo from KCFleming and others. It’s been proven to be a fake, what’s the big deal?
Fleming,
Plus the llivelink article I posted identifies the person in the photo. The llivelink article states that the photo is real, but identifies the man as someone else, not Mohammed Fazl. I guess you didn’t read the article?
Fleming, perhaps you didn’t read THIS comment of mine.
Annie
1, October 14, 2015 at 11:46 am
This photo Lisa provided itself may be real, but the person squatting there is not Mohammed Fazl.
I was really hoping we’d get the Cecil shooter’s vindication story today. Just more Muslim Madness! But like Paul says- their country, their rules. It also seems fair to ‘do unto others as you would have them do unto you’, so make them follow the laws here. The previous sentence sounds ridiculous when ‘them’ refers to only Muslims, but in fact ‘them’ should be the &#$%^@7 political class, celebrity class, talking heads (not the band)… ugh. I wish we had equality before the law.
Annie, the beheading photo is not fake, the only error is the identity of the beheader.
You’re missing the point, which is that Islam is barbaric.
If “Joel” is suggesting that JT or even Darren would “reign in” someone who corrected false information about something like this, then Joel doesn’t understand that RIL used to be and hopefully still is a blog that respects the First Amendment.
Annie
No, it’s his brother, or cousin or son–take your pick.
I should give warning, there are graphic pictures in the liveleak.com link.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=652_1397727681
For those interested in truth here is the identity and story behind the person in the beheading photo.
This photo Lisa provided itself may be real, but the person squatting there is not Mohammed Fazl.
Fleming,
I have no issue with real photos that may depict real barbaric crimes. Is it acceptable to provide false narratives or images in order to prove your point? Aren’t there enough REAL barbaric murders and beheadings to post?
Annie, you’re missing the point, which is not the identity of the Islamic beheader, but the fact that it was the Islamic barbarians, again, responsible for barbarous behaviors, and we are inviting them into this country.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jun/16/ted-nugent/nugent-ties-gory-photo-bergdahl-prisoner-swap/
“Nugent ties gory photo to Bergdahl prisoner swap as ‘one of the subhuman mongrels our president set free’
A few days ago, Nugent posted a horrific photo on Facebook of a bearded man, bloody knife in hand, squatting behind five gory heads. “One of the subhuman mongrels our president set free,” Nugent wrote in the caption. “Feel safer yet?” (Nugent created a controversy earlier this year when he called President Barack Obama a “subhuman mongrel.”)
Our ruling
Nugent said a man squatting behind five heads had been set free by President Barack Obama to secure the freedom of an American soldier. The photo first appeared in mid March, two months before the prisoner swap.
Nugent had plenty of opportunity to learn that the photo was not of one of the five released prisoners. He posted it two days after the connection to the Guantanamo detainees had been debunked.
We rate the claim Pants on Fire.”
BamBam, how could I possibly know which photos are fake and which aren’t? I always checkout Snopes when I see or hear things like that. I don’t think for a minute the pictures you are referencing are a fake. They were all over MSM, Internet, news outlets of every kind and were verified by our government. This photo of Mohammed Fazl wasn’t, that is the difference.
Bingo! Yet they also do not follow our laws and even try to change them here.
Double bingo!
If they expect and demand that Westerners follow their laws and must respect their culture, then WE should demand that they do the same when in the West or in America. The Muslims must follow our laws and not try to change them or impose their own Sharia laws. No exceptions……None.
I can agree with other posters who wonder why he would’ve choose live in that backwards country being a westerner, or even being of Mideastern decent for that matter, having been born in and lived in a modern country in the past. He should’ve been aware of the laws and taken them deadly seriously, having said that it’s a shame that this man will face jail time and the flogging.