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Polls Show Obama At A 58 Percent Popularity And Trump Down To 40 Percent
President_Barack_Obama495px-Donald_Trump_by_Gage_SkidmoreThere are an interesting set of polls out this week. President Barack Obama appears to be leaving office with one of the highest exiting polls of American presidents at 58 percent while President-elect Donald Trump has hit the lowest at 40 percent.  Polls change and Trump has already attacked the polls as rigged against him.  However, these polls can have a pronounced impact among members of the GOP who may be uncertain about the degree to which they will follow the lead of the White House on changes to taxes, immigration and other areas.  With a developing conflict over tax reform, the polls (whether accurate or not) could complicate problems for the new White House.
 
The CNN/ORC poll showed Trump with 40 percent approval.  That is a drop of six point since the election. It would also be the lowest record for a president-elect at his inauguration.  The polls shows a 54 percent unpopularity percentage.
In comparison, Obama appears to be riding out on a wave of support.  While much slower than then  78 percent before his own inauguration in January 2009, he is still at 58 percent.  That is one point higher than Bill Clinton when he left office. However, he is still not as popular as George H. W. Bush who left with a 62 percent favorable rating.

The concern for Trump should not be on his standing with voters. He has four years to make the case for reelection. The concern should be with this legislative agenda.  Members of Congress are going to be leery in following a new team that has many players from outside of the Beltway and they watched as Obama pushed through the ACA at the cost of a significant number of Democrats seats in Congress.  They have strong leadership in both houses and low polling for the President could lead them to rely more on their own leadership for the details, if not the direction, of legislative reforms.

115 thoughts on “Polls Show Obama At A 58 Percent Popularity And Trump Down To 40 Percent”

  1. After all the CRAP Obama has pulled I’m confused about that rating number. I have a feeling it isn’t correct. I for one, cannot wait for the 20th of January to get here.

  2. “Goldie” is one of those on the Soros etc payroll

    Best thing to do is ignore “her” insane/innocuous posts and move on IMO — unless of course you enjoy taking down the mentally retarded cultists

  3. https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/01/16/dc-antifascist-coalition-okeefe-stink-bomb/ “A DC activist group targeted in a new video by the right-wing provocateur James O’Keefe says it fed one of O’Keefe’s associates deliberately false information about its plans to protest an inauguration ball this week. In O’Keefe’s video, members of the DC Antifascist Coalition are seen talking about releasing stink bombs and tinkering with the sprinkler system at the National Press Club on Thursday during the “Deploraball,” which is being organized by some of Donald Trump‘s most outspoken online fans.

    But the Antifascist Coalition says it knew the cameraman in the video was an actor in O’Keefe’s Project Veritas group, and concocted a phony plan in order to throw him off. It may have worked more effectively than the Antifascist Coalition anticipated, as O’Keefe’s video is being reported by Breitbart, the Drudge Report, and other Trump-friendly outlets as proof that left-wing protesters plan to engage in “criminal activities” to disrupt the inauguration and its associated events.

    The protest group insists there is no actual plot to disrupt the Deploraball with stink bombs or wayward sprinklers, and that the conversation featured in O’Keefe’s video was designed as a mole hunt.”

    1. Goldie – it is not a mole hunt when you know who the mole is. Project Veritas got it right again. They are just trying to cover their a**es now.

  6. And the protesters always change the average American’s opinion? Let’s be realistic.

    Scenario: Group of individuals dressed counter-culturally holding up picket signs and mindlessly chanting “What do we want… [insert fashionable raison d’etre de jour]….when do we want it….”

    Average Person driving by:

    “What are these idiots griping about this time?”

    The misconception is that just because ten people are holding up signs and talking the talk of their handlers does not mean that a city is largely in agreement with them. Recent news listing various organizers hiring paid protesters, some as high as fifty dollars per hour, just make their position look more ridiculous and untenable to the average person.

  7. Many realize they have been given a Goldman Shower and the inauguration has not even happened.

  8. Very sad – Soros et al still hiring agitators as they have no real grassroots activists (aside from the pink-hatted delusional pussy women). this did not work out well for the Dems – scabs at the DNC, “Trump supporters” violence in Chicago, etc., Berniebros,etc. The Dims are so predictable – their arrogance cannot allow to realize it’s over. LOSERS. So many things to protest – enivironmental issues, lead in Flint Water, DAPL, Monsanto labeling, but no, these entitled SJWs are gonna whine en masse.

    More power to ’em. I have stocked up on Jiffy Pop and intend to enjoy the show. Surely the RUSSIANS will live stream it on RT? =)

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/ads-two-dozen-cities-offer-protesters-2500-agitate/

    1. BTW, Protesting the Trump EXXON administration is protesting on behalf of environmental issues.

    2. Left is offering people $2500 to protest Trump’s inaugural. So liberals are resorting to capitalism to protest capitalism. – Ann Coulter tweet

    3. Left running job ads offering $2500 to protest inaugural. Who says Democrats don’t know how to create good paying jobs? -Ann Coulter tweet

    4. He’s just throwing his money down the drain. He’s got one foot in the grave… hope he slips on the other one — soon…

  9. I await w/baited breath Goldie’s response to this video describing in lurid detail, w/enlarged text of the actual federal laws, the many grotesque felonies committed by Lannie Breuer and Eric Holder while employed at Obama’s so-called Justice Dept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgbRYgpGGs

    You shall not likely find a better way to spend 40 minutes confirming w/the hardest of hard proof, that BO oversaw a bloodless coup/takeover of the US government, the first step of which requires the nullification of law.

  11. MonmouthPoll ‏@MonmouthPoll 2h2 hours ago

    LATEST POLL:
    Trump: 34% Fav, 46% Unfav

    Trump will help middle class: 26% a lot, 40% a little, 29% not at all

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_011717/ …

    This poll done by Monmouth University is even worse. Looks like people are not so “dumb” after all and they do pay attention to the six Goldman officials and the numerous billionaires that are populating the Trump administration.

    1. Of course these all of these polls must be wrong as the people truly believe that the Goldman government will take care of them. The truth is that they are waking up to the fact they have been conned big time.

    1. Oh, well. I don’t know how to do it, obviously. I was trying to embed the red/blue map.

      If everyone they polled lives in California, New York, and Chicago, well, it won’t look like America.

  14. NYT tweets out “Not since Lincoln has there been a president as fundamentally shaped by reading and writing as Barack Obama” The headline tells us Obama’s secret to surviving 8 years in the White House was books. Gee, I thought it was golf.

    Yet another example of media spin that paints a portrait of Obama as the deep thinking, highly intelligent, well read president who cares deeply for this country and its people when the reality is that he is none of these things.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/books/obamas-secret-to-surviving-the-white-house-years-books.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

    1. If you compare Trump, who the media have painted as the next coming of Hitler, with Obama, who the media have painted as deep thinking, intelligent, deeply caring, oh-so-wise and thoughtful – then you get poll numbers like these.

      If the media told the truth about Obama leaving inner cities more violent than ever in large part due to his constant race-baiting, that he actually expanded NSA surveillance activities, has been conducting silent wars with drones, has clamped down on the press, has politicized nearly everything with his “all wedge issues all the time” governing style…..it would be a very different poll result.

      2. By not holding Obama’s feet to the fire for his multiple, chronic, egregious failures, the MSM virtually guaranteed those failures would persist, thus guaranteeing Trump’s landslide Electoral College victory (if +40% is not a landslide, please quantify landslide). After all, HRC’s campaign platform was advertised as BO’s third term, the “continuation of his legacy.”

        And how stupid can the MSM be? So stupid that MSNBC almost fired reporter Mika Brzinsky for her pre-election blasphemy/heresy of proposing that Trump’s potential for victory was some whole number greater than zero!

        If, on the above point, the MSM do not win the all time award for under estimating their opponent (violating Lao Tzu’s first rule of war), then who does win that award? The MSM guaranteed HRC’s likelihood of victory was well over 90%, practically ordering Progressives to stay home, not vote, and rather drink beer and eat Cheeto’s purchased w/Food Stamps.

    2. Between all the books he reads, the golf he plays, the vacations he takes, the ESPN sports he watches, it makes one wonder how he finds the time to do his job. And the press is calling Trump a puppet?

      1. Herbert Hoover also had a pile of books written, on a miscellany of subjects. Obama writes about himself.

    3. “Not since Lincoln has there been a president as fundamentally shaped by reading and writing as Barack Obama”

      Pretty funny. Woodrow Wilson had multiple advanced degrees, was on the faculty of Princeton University, and was a published scholar. Theodore Roosevelt wrote an ant heap of books. Wager you that Truman and Nixon were better read than BO

      1. IMHO, once a stoner, always a stoner. Obama is a legend in his own mind, and in the minds of those sick, slobbering white people who are looking for a black person to worship. As long as the black person is suitably liberal and confirms their own biases. If the black is a conservative, then they are just “mediocre Negroes.” Even to the sycophantic liberal black stepnfetchits of the Democratic Party:

        http://thehill.com/homenews/media/314532-cnns-marc-lamont-hill-blacks-meeting-with-trump-a-bunch-of-mediocre-negroes

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

    1. No one sane watches MS-DNC anymore. Many people enjoy Trump’s tweets – the MSM is anxious as he is bypassing them.

      Good riddance The View, Good Morning Amurika, Rachel Mad Dog, Andrea Mitchell, Joe & Mika and the rest of those useless manipulators. When my mother’s generation dies off they will fold.

  16. And the polls were so accurate on predicting the outcome of the last election that I put every bit of stock in them…NOT!

    In all seriousness I don’t believe President-elect Trump really cares, though I believe it is an accurate measure of how most politicians typically react. I think it is incumbent upon people to see what actions are taken by the future president once he engages in his office. All this lockstep rhetoric about how Trump is evil and must be attacked is getting old.

    1. Seeing the initial image on the above, one can be certain the video contains an objective, accurate and well researched analysis of the upcoming president.

      –CNN

          1. I think you are having the opposite effect of what you intend. Trump, or anyone for that matter, will always look good in the face of absurd, patently unfair, or hysterical assertions.

            2. Is Green Day hysterical? Apparently you think so. They also did a protest song about George Bush. Should Trump be replaced it will be by Pence and I have no dog in the hunt in that contest. He seems less authoritarian and does not appear to be financially compromised but he has that christian extremist thing going on. I would protest him whenever possible, also.

              1. Pence is scary Establishment Corp Rep. Pro TPP, right wing “christian”, etc. I hope the Donald maintains his health.

                1. There is an argument afloat that the Establishment is doing everything possible to replace Trump with Pence and Pence looks like he’s got a canary in his mouth – that he’s just waiting. I seriously don’t envy Trump right now and suspect that is why he has begrudgingly agreed that Russia was hacking at all.

                  If Trump has succumbed to blackmail, there will be no Commission to look into allegations of hacking at all or only the usual patently fake one.

              2. They have every right to do a protest song and if it so suits you, you have the right (per professor Turley’s civility statement ) to bring it up here. That’s not the issue is was raising.

            3. If protesting when posters call black people and gay people names is not appreciated here then so be it. Not trying to make friends or win a popularity contest………:)

              1. I think the video is over the top if you are seriously trying to convince anyone here, or elsewhere, of Trump’s weaknesses and your defensiveness underscores my point. You might be surprised about those who would respond to your views if they were not presented with a hammer vs. those who simply want to whine in perfect harmony with you. And neither friendship nor popularity – nor your pseudo braveness in standing up to opposition in spite of it all – has anything to do with making a compelling argument.

                1. nor your pseudo braveness in standing up to opposition in spite of it all -> nor your willingness to brave it’s absence.

                  (original version much too harsh, sorry, it came out wrong) 🙁

        2. One of the most amazing acts of hypocrisy is so-called “Progressives” having hitched their wagon to one of the biggest war mongers ever to walk the earth (HRC), and the degree to which alleged “Progressives” attached their religious convictions to USA’s so-called “Intelligence Communities.” The sum total death, dismemberment, family destruction, and demolished civilization directly caused by this demonic person and war organizations can hardly be measured/quantified.

          The degree to which the “Deep State” have infiltrated every single corner of our almost dead “democracy” is beyond the pale. Glenn Greenwald is no friend of either US Party: https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11/the-deep-state-goes-to-war-with-president-elect-using-unverified-claims-as-dems-cheer/

  18. Polls are worthless as the election results proved. Not hear much from guru Nate Silver lately have y’all?

    While some folks are still tuning in to the MSM and gorging on their spin (like my 76 year old Ma unfortunately) there are millions of others who refuse to be partisan and remain independent thinkers. Progressives are waiting to see what Trump does – we kNEW what HRC would do and did not vote for her. One ;thing is for sure the Establishment hates Trump and will try to tear him down any opportunity they get. It’s comical in a dark humor way – these jackels united because they lost power.

      1. nope. Only cult liberals. Progressives are waiting to see what Donald does and pushing true progressives.

    2. Autumn, you are correct about the polls being worthless.. According to the so called electio polls, Hilldebeast was going to landslide Trump into oblivion. I have a feeling the numbers ascribed to Trump & 0blameUS are reversed. 0 probably has even lower numbers & Trump higher when the numbers are reapplied.

      You, Karen & Brooklin left very good & thoughtful posts. Thanks to all 3 of you!!

      SamFox

  19. I have always found it interesting how Obama was able to successfully distance himself from his disastrous policies.

    Obamacare, a dismal job market, a failing economy, Obamacare making health care completely unaffordable, an unsafe world, and basically the wreckage of 8 years of Obama were some of the driving force behind a Trump win. The voters rejected the policies of the past 8 years. Yet, as long as Obama stayed pretty quiet, he had high approval ratings. Did no one connect the dots between Obama and his policies? Obamacare is down to a single insurer in many Exchanges, and people cannot afford it, but Democrats are trying to blame the GOP for any pain caused by the death throes. It doesn’t matter who took office; Obamacare was a failure. You can’t come back from having only one insurer, and that one shaky, in so many Exchanges. It didn’t work. And fixing it is going to be a pain. But that’s not the fault of those trying to fix it; it’s the fault of those who lied to get it passed.

    The reason why we have such intense pressure to double the minimum wage is to make burger flipping support a middle class lifestyle, which puts the lie to the meme that our economy is thriving. It’s not doing well at all, as evidenced by extremely poor GDP growth and record breaking numbers of people dropping out of the job market.

    What I found interesting and ironic was all the talk in Europe about giving everyone a basic wage, regardless of socioeconomic status or job status. Just give everyone a basic income, and tax the heck out of wage earners to make it happen. They are doing a case study of 200 participants now. The reasoning is that what used to be normal GDP growth isn’t normal anymore in modern times. But no one seems to connect the socialist, tax and spend policies with that end result of dismal GDP growth. They just claim it’s now normal for economies to struggle, and so the answer of course is to give everyone “free” money which will be paid for by taxpayers.

    This election was our last ditch effort to distance ourselves from this madness. I truly hope we don’t throw away our chance.

    1. An excellent comment touching upon the biggest internal (rather than foreign) issue of Obama’s presidency, the disappearing middle class and the further impoverishment of the already lower classes (burger flippers). While I think there are reasonable arguments to be made that Obama was not “progressive” enough, that’s my POV, and the outcome remains very much as you stated. We all lost big time. Except for the very wealthy, our houses alone (outside major cities) have lost almost a third of their value since Obama first took over from the financial collapse that took place in George Bush Jr.’s administration.

      But even granting, for the sake of argument, your POV on the causes and solutions to the problem, there is an automation phenomenon occurring that should consider. Jobs world wide in developed countries are undergoing a major shift due to automation and the recent significant advances in artificial intelligence. Arguments are quite strong that in the near future the number of jobs available (those that have not been automated) will shrink to a tiny fraction of the population. The phenomenon is beyond anything we have experienced before and it’s projected to happen on an upward curve; increasingly quickly. Particularly gloomy is the assertion that Automation has reached the point where jobs lost will overwhelm any gains in jobs made. It used to be that for every burger flipping job lost to high tech, one and a half or more new ones were created in high tech (without even going into the unfairness to those left behind). No more, so the projection goes, from here on out there will be a steady and dramatically increasing loss of total jobs available. The projected numbers are staggering. There will be no jobs program that can even begin to handle the problem no matter the political stripe, ideology or good intentions of our (so called) leaders. It will simply be a fact of life.

      So what do we do then (assuming it happens)? We can’t in good conscience simply declare them all dead beats. Mass murder was tried in the 30’s and 40’s and we are still recovering from that horror so there is no solution there. And, we are potentially talking about billions of people. So the idea of a basic necessities allowance is being floated. Hand outs like charity packages are considered unrealistic to impossible to integrate into a fiat monetary system on that scale so they have been excluded from any realistic solution. What are your thoughts?

      1. BB,
        I have the same concerns about job losses. What will people do?

        Many of these innovations are occurring, I think, without any regard for the ramifications or ethical issues. They are happening because “they can”.

        There is no voice asking loudly enough, should we be pursuing these innovations?

        People who feel they have no purpose because they have nothing to work for because there is no work they can do because of automation will find purpose, one way or another.

  20. Trump would do well to read Jefferson’s first inaugural address. He outlines specific principles that will guide his administration:
    -Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political;
    -peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none;
    -the support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies;
    -the preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad;
    -a jealous care of the right of election by the people—a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided;
    -absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism;
    -a well-disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war till regulars may relieve them;
    -the supremacy of the civil over the military authority;
    -economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened;
    -the honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith;
    -encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid;
    -the diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason; freedom of religion; freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected.

    “These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation,” Jefferson said.

    1. Olly – Jefferson was against expanding the United States before he was for it. I don’t put a lot of stock in what Presidents say.

    2. Breathtaking. Frankly even a few of these items would herald the “change” we are so desperately seeking.

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