Gosh Oshkosh: University of Wisconsin Bans Any Speech Deemed “Insulting” or Demeaning”

There is a new controversy over university speech codes with a “red light” rating given to the University of Wisconsin (Oshkosh) and its prohibition of “insulting” or “demeaning” comments, including insulting someone over their political views.

The UW Oshkosh policy  states

“All members of the University have a responsibility to promote and a right to expect … an environment that is free of harassment and free of insulting and demeaning comments and epithets based on race, ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age, disability, military status, socioeconomic status, family status, or political views; and consistent enforcement of federal, state, and university protections against discriminatory treatment yet is free from any official speech codes.”

So under this standard, a student or faculty member could be punished for insulting or demeaning the “political views” of another person.  It is a standard (like many) that is strikingly subjective. It is triggered by the reaction of others to speech. Thus, if a student calls conservatives “fascists” or Democrats “communists” it could be cited as demeaning or insulting. Likewise, protests against the military on campus could trigger such a rule.

The policy also professes a strong commitment to free speech while reserving the right to bar speech under this sweeping definition.

Such codes allow for arbitrary and biases enforcement. We have seen very different responses from universities based on what groups or views are being attacked on racial or gender or political grounds. When conservative faculty or controversial speakers are targeted, few officials or fellow professors have stepped forward to denounce such campaigns. The same is not true when controversies have arisen for statements on the left. We have been discussing efforts to fire professors who voice dissenting views on various issues including an effort to oust a leading economist from the University of Chicago as well as a leading linguistics professor at Harvard and a literature professor at Penn. Sites like Lawyers, Guns, and Money feature writers like Colorado Law Professor Paul Campus who call for the firing of those with opposing views (including myself).  Such campaigns have targeted teachers and students who contest the evidence of systemic racism in the use of lethal force by police or offer other opposing views in current debates over the pandemic, reparations, electoral fraud, or other issues.

The Wisconsin (Oshkosh) speech code invites such arbitrary enforcement. As a state school, Wisconsin is subject to the protections afforded to free speech.  Thus, it may not actually enforce this poorly written code. However, the greatest concern is the chilling effect on the speech of students or faculty who do not want to risk being singled out for speech violations. The University should rewrite its speech code to create the opposite presumption in favor of the protection of diverse viewpoints.  Colleges are supposed to be places of passionate debate over social and political issues. That will often include harsh or insulting comments but higher education should also be teaching tolerance for opposing viewpoints. Instead, this speech code is teaching what others should conform their speech to avoid anything that you deem insulting or demeaning. It creates a learned type of fragility and rigidity in responding to the opposing views of others.

When you feel passionately, every opposing view can be viewed as “toxic.”  Indeed, as raised by SNL, such moments can occur in deep space:

 

79 thoughts on “Gosh Oshkosh: University of Wisconsin Bans Any Speech Deemed “Insulting” or Demeaning””

  1. Paul says:

    “Hey Jeff, here is an idea. Start your own blog then YOU can choose the subject matter to be addressed. This is JT’s blog. HE gets to choose the subject matter. As far as being pathetic,look in the mirror. You are a one trick pony. Virtually every response you post Turley’s afffiliation with Fox is brought up.”

    You know perfectly well that no one would visit my blog if I began one. I have stared in the mirror and indeed what I saw looked pathetic. Which is why I decided to do something about by trying to change the world one mind at a time. I am on a mission- to shame Turley into leaving Fox and returning to his old self. I know he has qualms about being associated with Fox News. No righteous man could not. Indeed, you have not seen him appear lately on the network. My guess is that he had nothing favorable to contribute so the producers did not insist upon his participation. After all, if he would not take a public stand in favor of Cheney on this blog, it stands to reason he would not do so on Fox.

    Even though I may fail in my mission, if I can deprogram one Trumpist- just one- my life will not have been wasted. I have to believe that my efforts might reach someone who may be tempted to believe in Trumpism. I’ll never know if my efforts have been fruitful, but at least no one can say I didn’t try to do right as I see the right. Turley would approve of my commitment. And I have no doubt that he would be aghast at forcing me off his blog for my criticism.

    Please don’t take this blog away from me. Let me stay! It’s all I got!

    1. Jeff, I wonder if you recognize how dumb you sound.

      You write: “You know perfectly well that no one would visit my blog if I began one.”

      Why would anyone visit a blog that has nothing to say?

      ” I am on a mission- to shame Turley into leaving Fox”

      It sounds like Jeff is on a trip and an ego trip that is laughable at best. Turley hasn’t changed. He still tries to promote civil rights and freedom of speech. The left has changed, no longer believing in civil rights, character over color, free speech , rule of law etc. Jeff is too dumb to note how his party has changed. JFK would now be considered on the hard right, but what does Jeff know? Nothing.

      “Even though I may fail in my mission, if I can deprogram one Trumpist- just one- my life will not have been wasted.”

      Your mission has a better chance of incentivizing leftists to change. One look at your actions should make leftists think twice. I think you need to find something to put under your hat.

      “Please don’t take this blog away from me. Let me stay! It’s all I got!”

      That is true. You don’t have much of anything.

    2. Jeff, I am going to assume you are being truthful and not sarcastic.
      First, it is not mine nor anyone’s place to take away Turley’ s blog from you.
      Second, you are correct it is highly unlikely anyone would follow your blog.
      I don’t think you are going to shame Turley off of Fox. His lack of comment on Cheney is probably due to the fact that he is not overly concerned with the inner workings of the Republican Party.
      My question is why are you? If Trump is such demigod you as a hater of all things Trump should be elated that dismissing a Trump antagonist would help destroy the Republicans.
      As stated before I believe you have a lot to give as it relates to this blog. Just please, please, please try not to put EVERYTHING that Turley posts in a Fox context.
      I emphatically request this because in my view the Pravda level of Propaganda that appears on cnn msnbc far outweigh the slant of Fox.

      1. Paul,

        I’m relieved that you are not too obtuse not to realize that I had my tongue firmly in my cheek! You appear to be someone with whom I can have an intelligent debate which is quite surprising given the level of education of many on this blog.

        I do harp on the fact of Turley’s employment with Fox because it alone explains his editorial slant on this blog. Newcomers to this blog should be disabused of the notion that Turley is an impartial and objective legal analyst as he holds himself out to be. I defy you to cite me one article in which he takes Fox (or any of its hosts) to task for anything ontoward they have said.

        In the interest of full transparency, readers must not ever lose sight of the fact that Turley has an obvious conflict of interest by virtue of his Fox employment. Not only does he not wish to jeopardize his lucrative contract, but he wants to avoid ruffling any feathers with his Fox colleagues. As anyone who has been familiar with Turley’s past commentary, he has changed his tune ever since becoming a Fox contributor. I could not disagree more about Fox/Newsmax/OAN vs CNN/MSNBC. To me the former outlets are not serious journalistic organizations which explains why Fox is being sued for billions for its election coverage which is alleged to be defamatory. We shall see what will be the outcome of that lawsuit. But here, too, Turley avoided commenting about this humiliating lawsuit against his network for many weeks until he mentioned it buried within an article he wrote about a similar lawsuit against the NYT by Project Veritas. This is not the conduct of a fair-minded academic. And his uninformed readers ought to be made well aware that Turley is compromised.

  2. Political views: “moron” and “snowflake” are unnecessary insults. But how about “seriously misguided”? It’s not ad hominem, it’s directed at the views, not the person. Still, I’d be afraid…

  3. Don’t worries sweet, tolerant lefties the ban will only be applied against “fascists”. And of course, a fascist is anyone who disagrees or even questions a tenant of the left.

    antonio

  4. The freedom of speech shall not be abridged.

    The erroneous conflation of violence and speech is specious and fraudulent.

    Speech is free.

    Assault, battery, harassment, stalking, intimidation, threatening physical force, infliction of emotional distress, etc., by the act of speaking are illegal.
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1st Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  5. At this rate of censorship, our universities are going to be as silent as a Buddhist monastery.

  6. I wonder if the the university has been hitting the sauce. Now nobody can insult the other for any reason? How about constructive criticism? Like quit acting like a fascist/communist, it makes you look stupid?

  7. As has been speculated on in the pages of this blog, odds are pretty good that Turley is auditioning for a Fox show of his own. We can see what the subject matter will be: a ‘tyrany of the left, gotcha’ show focused on these academic faux pas’ wherein people on the right get in trouble with their mouths. And, oh my god!, how tragic that is…

    Turley’s blog posts along these lines, since they are almost exclusively themed these days are essentially diagraming out specific episode ideas for a show bible (extended synopsis).

    Yes, it’s glaring that he won’t cover the Liz Cheney situation, nor the squashing of free speech via voter suppression efforts…, but it’s not his mandate to do that from the network. Turley has a toehold at Fox now and cashing in on it will coast him into a quite comfortable retirement no doubt.

    Personally, I love dropping in to call things what they are because, any chance I get to dismantle Fox market research is a good one to me. No, I don’t get paid for it. It’s just entertaining to stir up the mutants because they are the ones who are actively surrendering on our representative democracy right now…, so any chance to disrupt that trend is a good one to me.

    EB

    1. Liz Cheney? The person who blatantly lied and falsely denied she spread the bogus “Russian Bounties” narrative that was designed to keep U.S. troops mired in Afghanistan for another 20 years? That Liz Cheney? She’s a dangerous NeoCon. Cheney and CIA Democrats want endless regime change wars, unlimited militarism and imperialism. Otherwise, it’s Democrats who are limiting free speech. Democrats are aligned with the MSM and Big Tech—a classic definition of fascism—to silence the political opposition. Biden is even proposing a chilling, Stasi-like snitching project, whereby citizens would snitch on their neighbors if they articulate any “narratives of concern” aka criticism of Democrats.

      1. Because I cited her name as being attached to a glaring episode of bad faith on the right in a free speech issue doesn’t mean I’m a fan. And it would be nice to see just one shred of proof of Biden proposing “a Stasi’like snitching program”…But I know you don’t have it so won’t be posting it.

        EB

        1. Bug,

          I’m not aware of Biden proposing such a program, either, but we’ve had Stasi-like snitching ‘program’s for decades, as you may or may not know.

          Some of us are old enough to remember Mike Royko and the group “Welcome Wagon”:

          https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19770405&id=v2QqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Z1cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4329,1973504

          And Cass Sunstein (Samantha Power’s husband) has written some provocative articles:

          https://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

          We need to be careful, as I’m sure you realize…

        1. Thanks, Jeff. Lol. Always appreciate your viewpoint on matters and know it’s not the easiest thing to put them up knowing the irrational attacks aren’t far behind.

          EB

  8. Don’t you understand? When you disagree with someone on the left you are spreading disinformation and your comments should be banned on both the campus and social media. You must be forced to wear a little pin that lets everyone know that you are a meany. Don’t you understand anything about justice?

    1. Thinkthrough is answering himself here (spthspth) while claiming “the left is spreading disinformation”. This is a good illustration of how ridiculous Trumpers are.

  9. Turley: “Thus, if a student calls conservatives “fascists” or Democrats “communists” it could be cited as demeaning or insulting.”
    ***
    I am not sure the existing crop of Democrats think it is demeaning or insulting to be called a Communist. It might be upsetting to call them patriotic Americans though.

    1. Communist (liberal, progressive, socialist, democrat, RINO).

      American (conservative).
      ____________________

      Communists are proponents of the unnatural, artificial and forcibly imposed principles of the Communist Manifesto and enslavement by the “dictatorship of the proletariat.”

      Americans are conservative of the “manifest tenor” of the U.S. Constitution and the natural and God-given rights, freedoms, privileges and immunities provided therein.

      1. @george

        I appreciate what you are saying and think we would agree on many issues but “conservatives” (i.e. National Review, Heritage Foundation, Federalist Society, Republican Party, etc.) conserve very little.

        antonio

  10. OT: Since a lot of the discussion involves extraneous things about truth, Trump, the Big Lie etc., this article is a bit interesting.

    The head of the Arizona Senate confirmed this week that an audit of the Maricopa County election in November has identified significant irregularities as well as missing data, with the county itself also being warned of its ongoing noncompliance with the Senate’s audit subpoenas.

    The dispute is likely to boil over in public next week when county election officials have been asked to testify before a Senate hearing to address the legislature’s concerns. …

    Fann also called attention to what she said were “apparent omissions, inconsistencies, and anomalies relating to Maricopa County’s handling, organization, and storage of ballots” revealed by the audit thus far, including a lack of chain-of-custody documentation as well as “a significant number of instances in which there is a disparity between the actual number of ballots contained in a batch and the total denoted on the pink report slip accompanying the batch.” …

    The event will be “live-streamed to the public,” she added.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/az-senate-president-warns-maricopa-non-compliance-irregularities-found?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

    1. Allan….Thank you!
      Hey, what happened to Art Deco x4, “dances with spastics”, etc.??

      1. I’m not sure. He apparently said something and was banned for life. I think I may have read what he wrote, but I am not sure because I didn’t think too much of it at the time. He was intelligent and liked to add words that many are not familiar with. That added a bit of quality to the blog so with his departure the blog intelligence level fell downward in the direction of Anonymous the Stupid.

        You can see Anonymous the Stupid has been trying to insult me as best as he can, but he says nothing. I haven’t yet bothered to answer any of his may recent insults because they are without content, repetitions and downright Stupid. I can go one on one with him but that doesn’t add anything. There is not much to be done with the socially inept.

        I guess this response to you Cindy, will lead to more statements from Anonymous the Stupid that are without content. Just watch and see. Look for some sign of intelligent life when he speaks. It is doubtful you will find any.

        1. LOL Allan…. HAnony the Stupid will never be accused of being too bright!
          Thank you for the information about Art Deco! That really is too bad. He was/is very intelligent.

          1. ATS thinks he is smart. He sounds like he is trained to do one thing, but that doesn’t involve true thought.

            Yes, Art Deco was intelligent and as I said recently, his departure caused a fall in the IQ of the blog.

            1. “Art Deco was intelligent and as I said recently, his departure caused a fall in the IQ of the blog.”

              There’s an easy way for you and Cindy to fix that…

              lol

  11. Oshkosh is one of lesser schools in the UW system. Enrollment is open to almost any high school grad.

    1. Anonymous, if you are the main Anonymous who comments here thirty times a day, aren’t you the same guy that supports the party that wants to give everyone, INCLUDING ILLEGALS, “free” college? Yet you still want to decry “lesser schools”? How do you square that circle?

      1. Hullbobby, I’m not that anonymous. But even if I was, ‘so what’?? I’m just stating facts on behalf of the UW system, one of the better state systems in the country.

  12. Colleges are supposed to be places of passionate debate over social and political issues.

    Whenever I read or hear another of these stories, two questions come to mind: 1. How do students find so much time to be “political activists”? 2. What do their parents think about what is going on at the university as it relates to their children?

    Colleges should be places where passionate debate flourishes, but have we lost sight of the purpose for college? My first go at college in the late 70’s ended after 1 semester. It was all about the parties. Hello Navy. My education paradigm shifted 180 degrees. There, if you don’t learn, the only party you can expect is a working party, loss of pay and restriction. 4 years later, I’m now on shore duty and going back to college. This time I have a purpose. I’m teaching during the day and going to school at night.

    Does this Forbe’s article have it right, that the purpose for college is:

    There is the camp that says college is about preparing a person for work – to help them get a good or better job. In fact, this is by far the most commonly cited reason for why Americans value higher education – to get a good job. The other camp says college is about more broadly preparing a person for success in life – to be an engaged and enlightened citizen capable of thinking critically and communicating clearly, ultimately able to thrive in their well-being.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonbusteed/2019/04/10/whats-the-purpose-of-college/?sh=3526caee354e

    1. Excellent, Olly. It’s the purpose of K-12 education, too.

      “The other camp says college is about more broadly preparing a person for success in life – to be an engaged and enlightened citizen capable of thinking critically and communicating clearly, ultimately able to thrive in their well-being.”

    2. OLLY WRITES:

      “Colleges should be places where passionate debate flourishes, but have we lost sight of the purpose for college?”

      Olly, I don’t disagree with your statement here. But is the Republican Party allowing “passionate debate” about last year’s election and the January 6 riots?

      1. But is the Republican Party allowing “passionate debate” about last year’s election and the January 6 riots?

        Hmmm? That depends on which is farther, downtown or by bus?

  13. Turley:

    “this speech code is teaching what others should conform their speech to avoid anything that you deem insulting or demeaning.”

    And what does your inexcusable silence in the face of the Trumpists’ cancelling Liz Cheney for her refusal to keep quiet about the “Big Lie” teach us?

    You should watch the 15 minute video in which Bret Bair interviewed Liz Cheney after her removal and how he tries to repeatedly cut her off speaking the truth about Trump. It is truly embarrassing. Fox News, more than any other network, is complicit in spreading “stop the steal.”

    To this day, you have not condemned Trump for fomenting these lies, you have never criticized your network’s role in spreading them, and you have seen fit to ignore Liz Cheney being punished by the Trumpists for bravely denouncing everything that you have not!

    A man is guilty of all the good he has not done- Voltaire.

    Turley, you are- in a word- PATHETIC.

    1. JT still not getting you an Oompa Loompa? Silberman, you are- in actuality– PATHETIC.

          1. Seems they’ve had to quit for being double booked up against high school graduations there, Olly.

            EB

    2. “And what does your inexcusable silence in the face of the Trumpists’ cancelling Liz Cheney for her refusal to keep quiet about the “Big Lie” teach us?”

      Jeff reminds me of the blond in the video.

      1. SM,
        Cheney keeps harping about Trump, the Big Lie and standing up for the rule of law. What rule of law did Trump violate? Is it a violation of the law to question the results of an election? Is it a violation of the law to tell your base of supporters that the election was stolen? Is it a violation of the law to tell your base to peacefully and patriotically march on the Capitol to make your voices heard? Without a forensic audit in the contested states, how is any opinion about the results of the election determined to be a lie, let alone a big one? If Liz Cheney was a principled defender of the rule of law, why has she glommed onto the Democratic party Big Lie talking point regarding Trump and the 2020 election and not the actual Biggest Lie of All Time, fact and evidence based Truth, that the Democrats, IC/FBI/DOJ conspired to unseat a duly elected president?

        1. Olly, you bring out trump’s true devious skill here…, he lies out in public with an eye toward not leaving a paper trail. If he lied about the election in court it’d be perjury (and why his lawyers in election dispute cases never actually maintained he’d won, they challenged other, minute changes in election rule structures put in place by Republicans for the most part, state to state).

          If he lied in a publication it would be venturing into libel territory. If FB and Twitter were considered the media arms they truly are he’s got some exposure here. That’s why on the 6th Trump’s people forced him to make a statement to back off the trumpers from the Capitol invasion…., Trump’s legal exposure wtihout an announcement was off the chart.

          So, Trump as the red hatted loser out in public lying his ass off isn’t technically a crime, it just makes him an awful human. His legal trouble that is most pressing still is his fraudulent nature, which as we’re seeing, has an extensive paper trail attached.

          EB

          1. EB, may I recommend some wonder homeopathic drops to help you with your anger and anxiety? It’s called COPACALM. Has Gaba which is excellent in helping to promote a sense of calm and well-being. Or else, find a hobby–other than firing off ad hominem attacks against people with whom you disagree–to help you deal with your anger.

            1. And Rescue Remedy may come in handy in dealing with your edginess and defensiveness when faced with the obvious, Suze. Of course, any of the specific Bach flower remedies, or even the ones you can make from what’s in flower at any given time of year in your area would be beneficial…

              Or don’t. Your choice. Just know I love whipping up the mutants such as yourself because you’re about to drive the bus off the cliff with your gullibility and self righteous nonsense.

              EB

        2. Olly: “Is it a violation of the law to question the results of an election?”
          Good points all, but the Dems have deemed it a de facto violation of some unwritten law to question the integrity of an election. They spent four plus years, violated countless Americans’ rights, and spent millions to contest the 2016 election, but asking for proof of the 2020 election’s integrity is a capital offense. The hysteria over counting the votes makes me wonder why they doth protest so much. I don’t believe I’m alone in that.

          1. “They spent four plus years, violated countless Americans’ rights, and spent millions to contest the 2016 election, but asking for proof of the 2020 election’s integrity is a capital offense. ”

            A single shred of proof of any of this would be nice, but no, you don’t have it so won’t put it up. All good…, talking out of your butt fits you so much better.

            EB

              1. ” contesting 2026?”

                Anonymous sounds like a bad handle for those that are trying to look smart.

                2026 is 5 years into the future. What can we expect from an anonymous blogger who doesn’t know who he is.

          2. Suze,
            It wasn’t until I read this linked article last week that after 4+ years, I finally discovered why these Leftists maintain their Lies. To them, there is no such thing as truth and lies, at least not in our western definition of those terms. To them, truth is just what they believe. Anything that challenges their belief i.e. facts, evidence, is a lie. It’s pure Leninism:

            Leninspeak

            Lenin’s language, no less than his ethics, served as a model, taught in Soviet schools and recommended in books with titles like Lenin’s Language and On Lenin’s Polemical Art. In Lenin’s view, a true revolutionary did not establish the correctness of his beliefs by appealing to evidence or logic, as if there were some standards of truthfulness above social classes. Rather, one engaged in “blackening an opponent’s mug so well it takes him ages to get it clean again.” Nikolay Valentinov, a Bolshevik who knew Lenin well before becoming disillusioned, reports him saying: “There is only one answer to revisionism: smash its face in!”
            https://newcriterion.com/issues/2019/10/leninthink

        3. Olly, it is very simple. The left has nothing. That is why they suddenly make Cheney into a goddess. Distraction from what is happening.

          Trump, economy good, unemployment low, peace.

          What do they have under Biden to argue with? He is presently living off of Trumps economy. He is living off of the Covid vaccine. Gas prices are rising. There is war in the Middle East when before there was peace. Unemployment is rising. We might be starting to see inflation which would lead to stagnation.

          Biden says he supports Jews and Israel, but he has given a fortune to those that use that money to fund terrorism and bombs. I think it probably has reached several thousand rockets attacking Israel. Let’s assume we all lived in the country of Rhode Island and several thousand rockets were coming our cities and attempting to bomb our population areas. What would people say? What would they expect Biden to do? Do they think he should support more terrorism?

          The left has nothing but failure. They can’t say what Biden has actually done. That is why they focus on Cheney. That is why Bug below focus’s on Trump who is not in office. The entire left is devoid of reasonable argument.

          1. The left has nothing but failure.

            That all depends on what their objective is. Clearly they don’t share the same vision for America as that of conservatives. So conservatives need to stop measuring Democrats by conservative standards. Democrats have control of the Executive and Legislative branches. They control many major metropolitan areas and entire states like California. They control mass media, our educational infrastructure and major corporations. Long gone are the days of political compromise. This is political warfare. This is a zero-sum contest and the Left is winning, primarily because conservatives don’t understand the rules. Read that Leninist piece, that is the current Democratic party.

            1. Was Leninism a success? No. It survived based on force and the people suffered economically and otherwise. To me that is failure. Who won the battle is a different question.

              1. To me that is failure.

                Of course it was and is a failure to anyone having to live under that tyranny. But for those in power, the view is quite different.

                The Left and Right in our country are like siblings living under abusive parents. And our Leftist sibling is supporting the parents because life is easier that way. To the Leftist, the Right is failing to accept their current state. To the Right, the Leftists fail to recognize their future state.

                The only choice in the near term is to leave or fight according to their rules. That means we need to know their rules and their playbook.

                1. “That means we need to know their rules and their playbook.”

                  Alinsky provided the Dems rules. Add to that cheat, lie, steal, have no morals or principles. That defines a bunch of people from the left that reside on this blog.

                  1. “…cheat, lie, steal, have no morals or principles. That defines a bunch of people from the right that reside on this blog.”

                    Fixed it for you, Meyer.

                    1. Anonymous the Stupid, you are always denying your birthright. Go ahead, keep blaming someone else. We see your icon and we see your name. You are Anonymous the Stupid.

    3. Hey Jeff, here is an idea. Start your own blog then YOU can choose the subject matter to be addressed. This is JT’s blog. HE gets to choose the subject matter. As far as being pathetic,look in the mirror. You are a one trick pony. Virtually every response you post Turley’s afffiliation with Fox is brought up. Get some new material. You are boring. This particular segment has to do with free speech. Try to keep up. I am sure that if Turley posted that ” water is wet” you would reference Fox. You obviously are intelligent. But your left wing zealousness for attacking anything conservative negates your minimal credibility. And as far as not refuting the ” Big Lie” we can discuss that when ONE democrate admots that 5 years of left wing media perpetuating the Russia hoax was evil. Refuting the ” inject bleach” lie, ” Cowards and suckers” lie, ” Russian bounties” lie, just to name a few.. That would be a good start. *** My computer is acting funny today and I am unable to review this post. So if there are any errors I apologize.

      1. Paul, you have made an inaccurate statement concerning Jeff Silberman. You said he is a pony with only one trick. He actually is a pony with no tricks at all. He is just an obsession with no place to think.

    4. Will someone please explain to Jeff that not commenting on a topic is not the same as banning others from making comments. It really isn’t that complex.

  14. The value of a college degree will soon equal what a High School diploma represented 40 years ago.
    If persons with name recognition like Turley would get behind separating law school from universities, it would be good for Law. Or maybe just go back to the old days when you interned, and then “sat for the Bar”

  15. Meanwhile down in North Carolina we have our Democrat Attorney General, Josh Stein, pushing for North Carolina Schools to be able to censor or take punitive actions for OFF CAMPUS speech.

    I wonder if he slept through every Constitutional Law Class he ever attended.

    Perhaps, Professor Turley might offer his opinion about the legitimacy of AG Steins effort to put State Government interests over the Rights of the People of North Carolina.

    https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion-article/josh-stein-picks-government-interests-over-free-speech/

  16. None of this would be necessary if people taught their kids manners and how to behave with common courtesy.

  17. Wisconsin oughta be excluded from federal and state money until they fix this unAmerican policy or until some judge sets them oh so straight before awarding millions in damages. Amazing how the Communists have taken over American education.

    1. It really is, and at this point that process is on the verge of being complete. Here’s to hoping there are still some spines out there.

    2. Not that bad. Presumably, you can still make insulting or demeaning comments that are based upon other things like one’s looks or a lack of logic.

    3. That is how it’s done. Mussolini certainly recognized it early on. Lasting change only made by insuring the next generations have been indoctrinated properly.

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