War’s First Casualty: Ukraine Reportedly Sabotaged Nord Stream and Then Lied About It

It is often said that “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The line is attributed to Hiram W Johnson in 1929 in a debate over a dubious effort to legislatively ban war.  That line is not original to Johnson but what followed should be equally notable: “this mode of propaganda whereby … people become war hungry in their patriotism and are lied into a desire to fight. We have seen it in the past; it will happen again in the future.”

This week, a new story suggests that Johnson’s prediction may be proven  . . . yet again.  The Washington Post is reporting that material leaked by Jack Teixeira, a Massachusetts Air National Guardsman, revealed that the Biden Administration knew three months ago that it was Ukraine that was planning to sabotage the Nord Stream pipelines. Teixeira is now criminally charged under the Espionage Act.

If true, the Administration withheld the information for months as the media widely speculated that Russia blew up its own pipeline. Russia accused the United States of approving the attack by Ukrainian forces.

President Joe Biden was presumably informed by the intelligence agencies. Yet, as speculation continued and Russia pointed fingers as Ukrainian and the U.S., Biden told the public “the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies. We will work with our allies to get to the bottom (of) precisely what happened. Just don’t listen to what Putin’s saying. What he’s saying we know is not true.”

As Biden “worked with our allies to get to the bottom of what happened,” the Administration knew that months previously it was told by a Ukrainian whistleblower that the CIA was told that a six-person team of Ukrainian special forces were planning to rent a boat, dive to the seafloor and blow up the Nord Stream project. The operation was reportedly led by Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces.

It is not clear what president Volodymyr Zelenskiy knew or when he knew it. However, we knew of this report long before the pipeline was destroyed in the very way described by the whistleblower.

Not even the environmental damage by the alleged Ukrainian attack or the blow to our allies was enough for the Administration to reveal the alleged plot. The sabotage reportedly resulted in “more than 115,000 tons of natural gas escap[ing] the damaged pipeline in just six days, with a greenhouse gas contribution of approximately 15 million tons of CO2—or the amount of carbon that can be absorbed by roughly 580 million trees in a year.”

It was also not inclined to tell the press in multiple press conferences or presumably Congress as the Administration demanded billions for the war.

Now a new environmental disaster is building after sabotaging the Kakhovka hydro-electric dam in the Russian-controlled part of Ukraine. Russia has accused Ukraine and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused “Russian terrorists.”

This follows new evidence that Ukraine appeared responsible for the drone attack on the Kremlin recently. Zelenskyy also denied any involvement in that attack. Ukraine stood back as many of us speculated that this seemed like a false flag attack by Russia. After all, it seemed almost laughable in its objective if it sought to kill Putin or cause serious damage to the government.

Western countries have stressed that their military aid to Ukraine was premised on the country not attacking Russia on Russian soil. However, the larger question is whether such intelligence should be kept from Congress and the public when we have already spent over $75 billion on Ukraine.

It also raises a continued question over the Biden Administration withholding evidence that contradicts its national security claims. The Republicans have fought to gain access to a critical State Department cable that appears to refute President Biden and other officials who insisted that they had no prior warning of the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.  We ended up leaving $7 billion in top military equipment to terrorists, costing the lives of service members, and left thousands of allies behind.

The lack of candor over Ukraine denied critical information on the conduct of our ally at a time when the public is debating the increasing costs of the war. If Ukraine is engaging in sabotage against our other allies (and the environment), we have a right to know.  If committed by Ukraine, the drone attack on the Kremlin was remarkably stupid. It threatened an escalation of the conflict with little obvious military advantage. With tens of billions of dollars going to Ukraine and a world teetering on the brink of a large conflict, we (and particularly Congress) need to know if our allies are telling us the truth or whether they are reliable allies. Likewise, if Zelenskyy did not now of these major operations, it is a fair question to ask who is really in charge of the country or whether Zelenskyy is engaging in willful blindness.

It is even more troubling when Administration officials are presenting conflicting accounts or denying any knowledge of countervailing facts.

Throughout our history, Administrations have jettisoned truth when embarking on war. The most glaring example is the Tonkin Bay Incident that was used to justify the Vietnam War, an attack on U.S. vessels that was later debunked. Likewise, the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam War revealed, according to the New York Times, the government  “systematically lied, not only to the public but also to Congress.”

This is precisely why Congress is given oversight authority and why war powers are shared with Congress. The most important power held by Congress is the power of the purse. It has an obligation to guarantee that money is being spent wisely and based on accurate information.

Many of us supported the sanctions against Russia and still support the Ukrainians in their fight to protect their homeland. However, that does not mean that we should be played for chumps.

134 thoughts on “War’s First Casualty: Ukraine Reportedly Sabotaged Nord Stream and Then Lied About It”

  1. “Who would think we would ever see a former president being criminally prosecuted.”

    Lots of people would think that — Stalin, Mao, Castro . . .

    Tyrants routinely use political “crimes” as a pretext to kneecap their opposition.

  2. Jonathan: The war in Ukraine is an important issue and I will address it in my next comment. But first, some more important developments in Trump’s refusal to turn over all the classified docs he was illegally holding at Mar-a-Lago and perhaps at other of his properties. Who would think we would ever see a former president being criminally prosecuted. But it has happened. Donald J, Trump was indicted in Florida on 7 criminal counts–Espionage Act violations, obstruction, false statements conspiracy and other serious criminal violations. Many on this blog thought it would never happen–that Jack Smith would ultimately drop the case or AG Garland would not approve prosecution. I hate to gloat, but I guess I will. I told you it would happen. One former federal prosecutor said this morning the evidence was so overwhelming against Trump it is a case that was “Impossible not to charge him”.

    Now if I was a conspiracy theorist I would think Trump knew the indictments were coming and decided he would make the announcement before the DOJ. Why? Because Trump erroneously thinks this will supercharge his presidential campaign next year. He can now rally his MAGA supporters around the false claim the DOJ is engaged in a “witch hunt”–a politically motivated prosecution to prevent him from re-gaining the presidency. It will also mean Trump can now raise tons of money for his defense from his supporters. Another of Trump’s many scams.

    Many observers were surprised that Jack Smith filed his indictment in Florida–not in DC where most of the evidence was presented to the grand jury. It was a brilliant move by Smith and his team. They concluded that if they filed in DC Trump would waste months arguing for a change of venue. Besides most of the illegal acts by Trump occurred at Mar-a-Lago. Trump probably thinks a trial in his backyard in Miami will give him a more favorable jury pool. Don’t bet on it. 90% of federal criminal prosecutions, no matter where they are brought, result in conviction. A lot of us thought Trump should have been charged months ago. But Smith and his team are methodical and wanted to wait until all their ducks were in a row. You don’t want to charge a former president unless the evidence is solid and overwhelming.

    So for the rest of this year and all of next year Trump will be the center of media attention. Trump, ever the narcissist, relishes the idea of being the center of attention and playing the “victim” of a Communists and Marxists. He thinks this will help his presidential campaign and “RINO” Republicans in Congress will be forced to back him rather than face the wrath of MAGA voters. So cinch up your pants folks because it’s going to be a wild ride!

    1. Trump’s refusal to turn over all the classified docs he was illegally holding at Mar-a-Lago

      You just keep lying Dennis

      There were never classified documents at MAL. Even the DoJ clearly states they wanted documents marked classified.

      When you start with a lie, as you often do, everything that follows is wrong

    2. Yes who would think that a politically corrupt administration – that is credibly accused of being bribed by Russian Oligarchs
      would prosecute a former president for LEGALLY taking papers his is entitled to from his WH.

      “The Court will grant the motion to dismiss pursuant to Rule 12(b)(1) because plaintiff’s
      claim is not redressable. NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as
      “Presidential records,” NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right,
      duty, or means to seize control of them. In other words, there has been no showing that a remedy
      would be available to redress plaintiff’s alleged injury even if the Court agreed with plaintiff’s
      characterization of the materials. Since plaintiff is completely unable to identify anything the
      Court could order the agency to do that the agency has any power, much less, a mandatory duty,
      to do, the case must be dismissed.”

      So that is it clear – the “tapes” in question where large numbers of recordings – made during Clinton’s presidency – in the WH documenting PRes. Clinton’s activities.
      They included multiple classified conversations.

      And Judge Amy Berman Jackson in 2012 Told Judical WAtch to Pound Sand when they asked for a court order to compel NARA to recover the tapes.

      Judge Jackson ruled that – it is irrelevant that the PRA says NARA is custodian of these documents.
      It is irrlevant that the documents are classified – the CONSTITUTION allows presidents to take whatever WH documents they please.
      WH Papers are the Presidents personal property PERIOD.

      That is the state of the law.

      Senator Biden – who took Classified documents from a Capitol SCIF is not being prosecuted.
      VP Biden who moved classified documents all ovver the place – left plenty in a Chinese Funded Think Tank, and scattered in his garage – is not being prosecuted.

      Hillary Clinton – who took THOUSANDS of classified documents – put them on a battroom Basement email server where it is near certain a hostile foreign power had real time access – was not prosecuted.

      Durham’s report – made it prefectly clear that DOJ and FBI are politically corrupt – and Jackie Smith has confirmed it.

      We have a different system of justice for Republicans.

      Democrat lawyers who toss molitov cocktails in police cars get 15months suspended.
      People who discussed protesting a lawless rigged election – get 18years.

      The rule of law is dead in this country.

      We used to pride ourselves that we did not engage political show trials like the soviets – now we have the most corrupt government in US history abusing its power to to after political enemies.

      Isn’t that what Trump was impeached for ? Asking Zelensky to investigate Biden – who for the few too stupid to grasp it is now pretty solidily accused – with evidence of taking a $5M bribe in return for getting Shokin fired.

      Over and over – Trump has been RIGHT, Guiliani has been right, John Solom has been right.

      Yet these are the people targeted.

  3. We will soon see the evidence that Biden’s support of the war in Ukraine followed his illicit receipt of cash from Ukraine. Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Biden should serve a life sentence in some violent, vermin-infested prison. On of those minimum-security prisons with decent food and arts and crafts would be fine.

  4. Why does Turley treat a story in WaPo as fact? Because he voted for Biden and prefers to believe Ukraine did it rather than the far more probable scenario that Biden did it. What does Biden still need to do to prove he’s utterly corrupt and amoral? Or does that no longer matter since membership in the Democrat party automatically confers moral absolution and the intellectual highground, as well as complete legal immunity and impunity?

    1. I am more inclined to beleive the US did it.

      This is no big deal at all if Ukraine did it – they are after all in a war for their survival with Russia.

      I do not care much what Ukraine does to Russia. They are at war.

      I care a great deal about the US participation in this war.

      I can hope that Ukraine is able to deal blows to Russia
      While at the same time being very concerned that Our government is being far too casual about the prospect of starting a nuclear war.

  5. If Putin is brought to trial for committing war crimes in Ukraine, also waiting in the wings to be tried for war crimes should be Zelensky, who has murdered of his own people when they disagreed with him and has murdered Russian soldiers attempting to surrender.

  6. Sigh. Most corrupt administration in our nation’s history, and that’s no mean feat. Don’t know what else to say. People wouldn’t take pause for Watergate or even JFK today. Insane.

    Anyone that has ever thought the dems were anything but this were whistling in the dark.

  7. Biden intentionally provoked and is spending almost a trillion tax dollars prolong the war between Ukraine and Russia, which is destroying the country and killing hundreds of thousands of soldiers and innocent women, children, and elderly people. But what really irks me is that Trump didn’t properly cooperate with the FBI SWAT team that invaded his home.

  8. Professor Turley Writes:

    “Western countries have stressed that their military aid to Ukraine was premised on the country not attacking Russia on Russian soil.”

    Professor Turley must know this policy is scarcely more than lip service. Ukraine cannot be expected to refrain from taking the war to Russia whenever possible. The object is to ‘win’ this war and not just muck around.

    Professor Turley cites that drone strike on the Kremlin as being somehow irresponsible. Like it might get Putin angry! But the Russian public should know they’re in a real war. All that crap Putin fed about a ‘special operation’ was a massive disinformation campaign. A drone strike on the Kremlin upended those dumb lies.

    1. US should not support Ukrainian Nazis. Perhaps after they came clean of all the atrocities the UPA committed in Poland right after the WWII.

  9. “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    – Declaration of Independence, 1776

    1. Real President Donald J. Trump indicted by totally corrupt and “fake” un-president Joe Biden.

  10. James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin wanted war to be waged against the British. Did these warmongers pick up firearms and fight the Redcoats, or were they cowards?

    1. Aninny:
      “James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin wanted war to be waged against the British. Did these warmongers pick up firearms and fight the Redcoats, or were they cowards?”
      James Madison, Thos Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin didn’t want us to wage war in Europe where, as with Ukraine today, we have no strategic interests.

      “Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

      The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.”

      ~Geo. Washington, Farewell Address (1796)

      1. While Washington’s wisdom was appropriate for its time, a few things have occurred in the ensuing 227 years. Today, 2023, the stability of Europe and North America are inextricably tied by a great host of commercial, civil, social and geopolitical ties. Any attempt to diminish this (no matter how erudite the attempt) is just plain dumb.
        NATO imposed a vey successful strategic framework over Europe….The Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down. What was not foreseen in 1949 was how comfortable the Germans would become with their subjection.


      Article 1, Section 8

      The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to…provide for the common Defence…

      When America establishes a Supreme Court, Congress will be constrained by the Constitution to exercising the power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises for only common defence.

      Warmongers will be required, at that juncture, to create a “workaround.”

  11. From a strictly military point of view, Blowing up the Nordstream Pipeline by Ukraine makes sense. It denies a major asset to your enemy and to a degrees isolates Russia from the rest of Europe. The cost to Ukraine is minimal and they caused no casualties. It always made sense but we had no desire to see it. If true. The Europeans also learned that Russia was not their friend. Also it told Russia that their assets in a long war could be at risk.
    Blowing up the dam this week by Russia also makes sense. They did the very same thing in WW2 in 1941, when Army Group South was driving on Ukraine and Russian armies were being encircled and slaughtered by the Germans. They drowned about 100,000 Ukrainians in the process because they warned no one that they were going to blow the dam. Flooding the area in the south limits Ukraine to the North for offensive actions, at least for a time. It effectively shortens Russia’s defensive line for a time.
    Russia is bleeding population and skilled people as they desert the country and don’t want to get drafted.
    It all makes sense militarily if true.

    1. “Blowing up the Nordstream [sic] Pipeline [sic] by Ukraine makes sense.”

      Dear European Countries:

      We just destroyed a major source of your energy needs. Now, please support our war so that we can further destroy your economies.


      The Authoritarian in a Jogging Suit

  12. “It’s time to stop talkin’ and start chalkin’.”

    – Chick Hearn, L.A. Lakers Announcer

    1. Let’s look at this conflict from 10,000 feet. The Russians are bad people. We had idealists like Washington, Madison, Adams, etc. They had Ivan the terrible. I don’t wish them ill, but I don’t trust them, and I’m glad they are half a planet away. The Ukrainians, I know a few, and they seem like nice people, but their country is in a rough neighborhood and their government is terribly corrupt and is taking advantage of our country in a profoundly dishonest way.

      The Russians hacked the 2016 election. Only they didn’t. Crowdstrike can’t even prove they hacked the DNC let alone colluded with Trump or changed vote totals. It was all a hoax, and our deep state wrongfully vilified the Russians for domestic political gamesmanship.

      Meanwhile, the Ukrainians apparently actually did interfere in the 2016 election by releasing the fake black ledger on Manafort. They fabricated the first impeachment of Trump with their mole Lt. Col. Bearclaw/Vindman over a “perfect” phone call over what appears to have been real political corruption involving Biden. Remember, all Trump was asking for was cooperation with Barr and Giuliani in investigating a real bribery scandal involving Biden. From what Comer found, Burisma really did bribe Biden and really did hire his drug addict son to get Biden to use his influence to shut down an investigation into Burisma.

      So, it seems to me that Russia has been the Emanuel Goldstein, the designated villain, in a never ending psyop performed by our own deep state on the American public, and the Ukrainians are knee deep in interfering in our elections, fabricating political divisions in our country, and flat out bribing our politicians and their families.

      That is just the prelude. With that background, we now find ourselves bankrolling the Ukrainians in their territorial dispute with the Russians. We are not only funding their military but their entire corrupt government. The support from our government and our elites, who all put the Ukrainian flag in their bios, is so blatant and obvious, that the Ukrainians have become our proxies if not our puppets in OUR undeclared war on Russia. We select the target, whether a pipeline, damn, or Russian flagship. We provide the weapons and the coordinates, but a Ukrainian pushed the button for plausible deniability. We are really on the brink of WWIII and nuclear holocaust, and why? Because the Ukrainians provided coke and whore money to Hunter F’in Biden.

      1. tommy, it is important to take that 10,000 foot view. Your assessment is absolutely correct. If there ever was any doubt that the “deep state” exists, what happened yesterday should remove all doubt. The Leftist’s are dancing in the street over the events from yesterday. They have no idea that they are celebrating the reality we are no longer a functional constitutional republic. To them, it’s just politics. It’s a game where the music stops and whoever has a chair wins. What they don’t understand is the prize was tyranny of the majority.

        This section in Bastiat’s The Law explains exactly where we are. Yes, their “side” may have won this game, but they are going to be victims of the prize they’ve handed to the tyrants.

        Victims of Lawful Plunder
        Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter — by peaceful or revolutionary means — into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.

        Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails among the mass victims of lawful plunder when they, in turn, seize the power to make laws! Until that happens, the few practice lawful plunder upon the many, a common practice where the right to participate in the making of law is limited to a few persons. But then, participation in the making of law becomes universal. And then, men seek to balance their conflicting interests by universal plunder. Instead of rooting out the injustices found in society, they make these injustices general. As soon as the plundered classes gain political power, they establish a system of reprisals against other classes. They do not abolish legal plunder. (This objective would demand more enlightenment than they possess.) Instead, they emulate their evil predecessors by participating in this legal plunder, even though it is against their own interests.

        It is as if it were necessary, before a reign of justice appears, for everyone to suffer a cruel retribution — some for their evilness, and some for their lack of understanding.

  13. Ukraine blowing up Nordstream is ludicrous revisionist history.

    The Obama/Biden/Nuland puppet coup Ukraine government wants weapons and funding from Germany to keep its citizens under totalitarian and genocidal rule .

    Blowing up Nordstream was an act of war upon Germany.

    If Ukraine actually destroyed Germany’s low-cost major energy supply, Germany would not be giving Ukraine a single pfennig.

    Ukraine was told by the illicit U.S. regime to take the credit, so that naïve and silenced journalists would stop telling the truth.

    1. Thank you. Now it’s Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyy?
      New ridiculous rot from the CIA rag WaPo.

  14. Anyone wanting to read how the British government, with the collaboration of the Roosevelt administration lied us into WW II, see Hunter DeRensis, “The Campaign to Lie America Into World War II”, the American Conservative, 12/6/19. An excerpt:
    “With the pieces in place, Stephenson [British agent] directed British lyricist Eric Maschwitz to create two forgeries: one, a map showing a German war plan to occupy South America; the other, a Nazi plan to abolish the world’s religions. These fake documents were provided by the BSC to Donovan, who gave them to the president.
    “I have in my possession a secret map made in Germany by Hitler’s government—by the planners of the new world order,” Franklin Roosevelt announced during an October 27 radio address at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C. “It is a map of South America and a part of Central America, as Hitler proposes to reorganize it. …This map makes clear the Nazi design not only against South America but against the United States itself.”
    “Your government has in its possession another document made in Germany by Hitler’s government,” continued Roosevelt. “It is a plan to abolish all existing religions—Protestant, Catholic, Mohammedan, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish alike. …In the place of the Bible, the words of Mein Kampf will be imposed and enforced as Holy Writ. And in place of the cross of Christ will be put two symbols—the swastika and the naked sword.”

  15. President Joe Biden was presumably informed by the intelligence agencies.

    It is hard to believe that US intelligence agencies were not aware that Communist China leaders were in discussions with Communist Cuba. It is hard to believe this is happening once again.

    Obama/Biden are responsible for this development 110%.

    JFK’s greatest accomplishment as US President was thwarting the Cuban US Missile crisis. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr should use this news to push Biden and his handlers out of the DNC and perhaps save our country from Democrats. Period.

    Cuba to Host Secret Chinese Spy Base Focusing on U.S.
    Beijing agrees to pay Havana several billion dollars for eavesdropping facility

    free link

    1. If will make anyone feel safer, the CIA has a strategy after all:

      CIA’s 2023 theme for #Pride Month is WELCO-ME!


      Pride Month is an occasion for all of us at the Agency to pay tribute to the rich history, community, and mission contributions of our LGBTQ+ officers.



      BOHICA: Bend Over Here It Comes Again

  16. After all, it is entirely apparent that Ukraine’s crack team of Navy Seals pulled off this daring underwater attack in the dead of night, after Joe Biden assured America that Yes, we can do and it I guarantee we will.

    Jesus H. Christ. How stupid are we as a country?

    1. I know. The head of the Biden crime family stated this when the war was breaking out.

  17. I didn’t read today’s slop, because I don’t need to. Turley spins the facts according to his assignment for the day, and today’s assignment includes two attacks against Ukraine. That, in and of itself, is enough to tell me that today’s post is just slop and not worth my time.

    1. The Washington Post is stating that Ukraine did it, not Turley. Turley is commenting on their story. However, unless the WaPo is lying, then, ipso facto, Biden lied.

      “If true, the Administration withheld the information for months as the media widely speculated that Russia blew up its own pipeline.”

      Reading something before commenting upon it is one sign of intelligence. You clearly don’t display that one.

      1. READ what Turley said: here are the buzzwords that really matter, which is why I didn’t waste time reading Turley’s purchased slop: “reportedly”…”suggests”….”may be proven”…”if true”…”presumably”…”speculation”…”administration was told that CIA was told” (double hearsay)…”alleged plot”…”reportedly”….”….”many of us speculated”….”seemed like a false flag”….”seemed”…”appears to refute”….”IF committed by Ukraine”. Despite these loophoes, big enough to drive a truick through, Turley nevertheless states the following, as if what he claims are actual facts: “The lack of candor over Ukraine denied critical information on the conduct of our ally at a time when the public is debating the increasing costs of the war. If Ukraine is engaging in sabotage against our other allies (and the environment), we have a right to know.”

        The real kicker here explains WHY Turley wrote this piece in the first place: to defend dumbaxx Jim Jordan’s abise of the House’s oversight power for political purposes: “This is precisely why Congress is given oversight authority and why war powers are shared with Congress. The most important power held by Congress is the power of the purse. It has an obligation to guarantee that money is being spent wisely and based on accurate information.” Oh, and he throws in a dig about the withdrawal from Afghanistan without mentioning that it was Trump who made the diasterous deal with the Taliban–turning loose 5,000 of them, drawing down our troops from 14,000 to 2,500, not arranging for any air or land base, and not involving our Afghan allies, so they just gave up. Trying to blame Biden for Trump’s errors in judgment and poor deal-making will be a Republican talking point. Today’s post is just part of that strategy.

        THIS IS PRECISELY WHY? Turley’s piece PRECISELY says nothing, proven by the qualifiers he uses, cited above.

        1. Looks like Gigi carefully read, word for word, what Turley said, contrary to her statement that she didn’t bother to read his slop.

    2. I tend to think the claims that Ukraine blew up the pipeline are incorrect.
      I find Seymour Hirsch reporting that Biden blew up the pipeline to be more credible.

      Regardless. I want to hear EVERYONES claims and their evidence.

      If you have3 evidence that Russia blew up their own pipeline – provide it.

      That said – the claim that they did has always defied logic. The consequences of destroyign the pipeline made the EU dependent on the US for LNG.
      It benefited the US and harmed Russia.

      But if you have a credible case that Russia did it – make that case.

      But lets have evidence not Putin is so evil he does bad things that hurt himself and russian people more than anyone else.

      We are having a similar spat now. A major Damn in russian controlled ukrainian teritory has been blown up. Several sources are claiming the Russians did id.

      Tucker Carlson devoted his first twitter episode to the claim that Ukraine did it.

      Tucker made a good argument.

      But ultimately I think the argument that Russia blew up THIS dam is better.
      While the long term consequences for Russia – and the world are not good – Russias LONG TERM ability to hold crimea is weakened.
      But its Short term ability to hold it and avoid a political devestating loss is enhanced.

      Further the damage to the dam suggests it was blown with tones of explosives from the inside. That is pretty hard for Ukrainians to accomplish.
      At the same Time Carlson correctly noted that Ukraine has threatened to blow the dam repeatedly.
      As noted above – in the short run this significantly delays or redirects what was the expected ukrainian counter attack.

      At the same time it substantially increases the odds that Ukraine could retake Crimea in the long run with little fighting.

      There are good arguments for Ukraine having done this as well as against.

      One is not nuts for taking either position.

      One is not nuts for claiming Ukraine blew up Nord II.
      One is not nuts for claiming that the US blew up Nord II.

      But it is highly unlikely Russia Blew up Nord II.

      If yopu beleive otherwise – make the argument – but make a better argument than “Putin bad”

    3. This idiot doesn’t read anything yet thinks her comments matter. The Biden crime family is responsible for this.

      1. When you repeat the swill you hear coming from Mark Levin’s mouth, you reveal your discipleship.

        1. Gigi says: June 8, 2023 at 5:20 PM
          When you repeat the swill you hear coming from Mark Levin’s mouth, you reveal your discipleship.
          Liked by 1 person

          Note to commenters:

          The above comment has received an upvote in just a few minutes time after the original posting, which was likely done by the commenter/troll themself. I have copied the upvote indication because the troll can remove it just as easily

          I have stated for years that Svelaz = Gigi = sealioning Anonymous = bug = Reagan’s = Wally, etc, etc, etc. The trolls are not intelligent but do reveal their identity via their careless mistakes.

          IMHO, the forum is not overrun by an army of trolls as some have stated but rather likely a simgle troll employed by Media Matters / David Brock or perhaps a mentally sick commenter who gets thrills in pretending to be an ominous force, the Dark Triad troll. As Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals #9” states: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

          Dont buy it. Prof Turley’s arguments are embraced by the majority of Americans despite what the trolls and the MSM would have you think.

          My 2 cents

          1. Estovir I have been saying for months that Svelaz is a Democrat Operative and I think he is now going by “Anonymous”.

            My one and only complaint with the site is that all the Anonymous folks should be forced to pick a name and of course it can be an “anonymous” name, like mine.

    4. Gigi: “I didn’t read today’s slop, because I don’t need to.”
      lin: “Then why are you here? Methinks the good professor writes everyday with the intention that it will be read before comments are made. ..So you must be a daily follower, or in your words, a “disciple?”
      Gigi: “Turley spins the facts according to his assignment for the day,”
      lin: “Who assigned to you the task of trying to discredit and disrespect him for the day?”
      Gigi: “today’s post is just slop and not worth my time.”
      lin: “How do you know it is just slop if you did not read it?” “How did you ascertain that the professor’s post “includes two attacks against Ukraine’ if you did not read it?”
      “Is it possible that some readers might find your comments to be redundant ‘just slop’ as well?”

      1. Lin, well done. Of course she read his post, we all read JT’s posts. She and the others of her ilk begin every day from a credibility hole they’ve dug for themselves. And instead of finding a way out of it, they just keep digging. Collectively they are the KJP of this blog and she is by far the worst press secretary in the history of White House press secretaries. So they’ve got that going for them.

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