Below is my column in the Messenger on the possible second federal indictment of former President Donald Trump. The basis for an indictment remains unclear but the advantage in trying a case in Washington, D.C. is obvious.
Here is the column:
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a favorite classic movie for millions of Americans. Today’s legal-political sequel, however, may prove to be a bit more controversial.
Former President Donald Trump has revealed that he received a “target letter” from Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith as part of Smith’s investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol.
Many people were surprised by the news, since Smith already is pursuing criminal charges in Florida on the mishandling of classified documents and the likely Jan. 6 allegations are far more tenuous legally. However, the second indictment may have one irresistible element: It could be tried in Washington.
There are obvious reasons why Mr. Smith would want to go to Washington in this instance. Trump would face what is, for him, arguably the worst jury pool in the country. Trump lost the 2020 presidential vote in the District of Columbia, receiving a mere 5.4% of the vote. That means finding a Trump supporter in the district’s jury pool is only slightly more likely than finding a snow leopard.
Such an indictment could come at a high legal and political cost. This would be the third criminal indictment of Trump and there may still be a fourth coming in Georgia. Past indictments have given Trump boosts in polling, and this indictment could well seal the view of many voters that Democrats are weaponizing the legal system.
Smith has a reputation in conservative circles for stretching the criminal code in high-profile cases, including the prosecution of then-Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell (R), a conviction that was later thrown out in an 8-0 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, which rebuked Smith for what it termed the “Government’s boundless interpretation.”
That would certainly be the likely criticism again if Smith relies on Trump’s Jan. 6 speech for criminal charges. That speech is entirely protected under the First Amendment and governing case law, including Brandenburg v. Ohio. Any count based on Trump’s speech would likely be overturned on appeal.
Smith also could be pursuing claims based on the Trump team’s effort to challenge the 2020 election’s certification, including the possible submission of an alternative slate of electors. That foundation also would be controversial, however.
In the past, congressional Democrats used the very same law to challenge presidential election certifications with little or no evidence. Indeed, not long after the election, I wrote about that possibility in what I called the “Death Star strategy” using the same grounds. The use of the federal law for that purpose was not and is not a crime.
Indeed, the House Jan. 6 (J6) Committee’s chairman, Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), voted to challenge the certification of the 2004 election results and then-President George W. Bush’s reelection. His fellow J6 Committee member, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), sought to challenge Trump’s certification in 2016. Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) both praised the challenge organized by then-Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) in 2004.
The question is whether Smith has evidence that goes beyond such use of the same law by Trump and his supporters. The J6 Committee spent a huge amount of time and money to try to find a direct link of Trump to a violent conspiracy or other crimes. It failed to produce such direct evidence, despite its revelations of embarrassing and disturbing testimony on Trump’s reaction to the Capital riot.
Those hearings showed that the White House’s lawyers rejected the theories put forward by figures like Trump associate John Eastman. However, relying on bad advice or bad law is not a crime. President Joe Biden, like his predecessors, has been accused of knowing disregard of statutory and constitutional law, including repeated losses before the Supreme Court. We have never criminalized such interpretations.
While many of us rejected the Eastman arguments, Trump had a split among the lawyers advising him on that day. He listened to the wrong side — but proving that he clearly knew the arguments were invalid would be a difficult task for Smith.
Again, Smith may have acquired evidence that eluded the J6 Committee. We will have to see.
There also is the possibility that, despite the usual pattern of target letters leading to indictments, Smith could be doing his due diligence in seeking Trump’s appearance before a grand jury before closing out the case. Trump would be certifiably insane to take Smith up on such an offer. Yet the widespread expectation now is that Smith will indict Trump if there is any possible basis on which to do so in Washington.
A Washington trial would add pressure on Trump to seek a plea deal, but that seems unlikely to evolve. Not only could Trump be pardoned by a potential Republican president after 2024, he could grant himself a self-pardon if he won election to another presidential term.
We could learn some of these answers as early as next week, if there is an indictment. Smith gave Trump only four days to appear before the grand jury. After that, Smith must make a decision.
With a majority of voters already viewing earlier Trump indictments as politically motivated, Smith would need to make a case that is unassailable. That means it cannot be another McDonnell case built on some new “boundless interpretation” by Smith of federal law. If Mr. Smith goes to Washington this time, he needs to bring indisputable evidence and law to support new charges against Mr. Trump.
Jonathan Turley, an attorney, constitutional law scholar and legal analyst, is the Shapiro Chair for Public Interest Law at The George Washington University Law School.
You better not pout,
You better not cry,
Fani Willis is indicting your azz,
That’s why!
She knows you’ve call Brad,
She knows what you said,
She knows that Georgia law
And she’s got you like the feds
You better not pout,
You better not cry,
Fani Willis is indicting your azz,
That’s why!
I don’t care which prison Donald Trump dies in. He’s a blight on our country, and a danger to our democracy.
Moron, America is a Republic! Georgians are the the most un-educated in all the states. DJT was and is the best President in our life time. Just because he didn’t start WWIII, or steal millions by selling off our country to china like fjb and the demonrats did. You don’t respect him. As far as MrSmith goes I see him either funding his own s-t or sitting aside the an empty road. Fjb clock is running out he had planned of taking as many of Americns with him.
Democrats have legitimate reasons to be pissed, but why are Republicans whining and wallowing in victimhood so much?
Only 2 presidents in the 21st Century lost the popular vote but became president (out of 5 presidents total in 200 years).
Hillary Clinton won almost 3 million more votes than Trump received and that factored in then FBI Director Comey putting his thumb on the scale. Hillary would have likely won more votes with the FBI’s tampering.
Al Gore won 500,000 more votes than George W. Bush received. Gore challenged it in court, then acted like a grown up accepting the results. Trump had 60 judges rule unanimously (60-0) that he lost the election. Even Trump friendly judges ruled he lost.
Trump threw a tantrum and then planned a coup attempt to subvert the ruling of 60 judges.
In the 21st Century, Republicans have never had a mandate from the American voters to move this extreme right.
Then millions of Obama’s voters were robbed of about 100 judge picks and a U.S. Supreme Court pick. Republicans justified robbing Obama of 100 judges by Democrats rejecting (1 judge) Bork in the 1980’s.
Bork played a key role in obstructing the Watergate investigation by firing Nixon’s special prosecutor. So Bork was unfit for highest court in the land. None of Obama’s judge picks met this standard.
Those very same Republicans then rammed through Trump judges at breakneck speed, permanently upsetting the balance of the court system.
Republicans cheated, gamed the system and got away with it, why are they are whining so much?
My early Christmas wish this year is for the Congress to authorize dead or alive bounty on leftist POS such as yourself.
You really believe there were that many undecided voters in 2016, two minutes after both parties conventions concluded?
The only thing the Comey investigation proved was he was in for Clinton to win.
You are full of it! Dominion was rigged but true americans unrigged it!
Why? If you received thousand of text and phone messages telling you they are going to tear down your playground down! They are tired of your lies action or pack your bags! No more rigged elections, forget kick-backs, pay-to-play s-t is out! Figure out how to buy OUR country back or else! Whin? Cry? Throw a fit or two?
Wow. So many lies here. But this one is a howler.
“Trump had 60 judges rule unanimously (60-0) that he lost the election. Even Trump friendly judges ruled he lost.”
When I last looked, of the 90 cases decided, only 25 were decided based on the merits. Trump or the GOP prevailed in 18 out of the 25.
I demonstrated this fact numerous times on the blog, but too many, like Reag, cannot learn. I discussed this with ATS earlier, and he said Trump didn’t win any. He asked me to prove Trump did, so I provided the case. He said I only provided one, so I provided another and perhaps a third when he walked away with his tail between his legs.
Reag, why don’t you prove your case? You can’t, but lacking self-restraint, you can’t keep quiet.
60? You and the demonrats cannot count! Since those judges don’t know crap about the dominion machines or the dirty demonrats. You really cannot blame them! You?
So you think that Americans wanted a known thief in the WH? You relly are messed up. Killary has left a mess behind her every since she was seven years old. Thanj GOD most of Americans have brains and know how to use them!
Professor claims that “The basis for an indictment [against Trump] remains unclear but the advantage in trying a case in Washington, D.C. is obvious.”
I find this puzzling. The basis for the indictment is obvious to anyone with at least a scintilla of intelligence. The basis is that Trump threatens the Deep State’s Banana Republic. And the daily exposure of the criminal activities of the current Administration and all of its agencies are also posing an existential threat to our Banana Republic. And that cannot be tolerated. Those facts and circumstances provide a rock solid basis for countless manufactured indictments against Trump under our sacred Two-Tiered System of Justice.
𝐒𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐈𝐬 𝐖𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧
On Wednesday, a second IRS whistleblower appeared before the House Oversight Committee alongside Gary Shapley, the IRS investigator who recently came forward with allegations that the Justice Department gave favorable treatment to Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden.
…Ziegler told Rep. James Comer, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, that Hunter Biden and his associates received $3.1 million from a Romanian company, $3 million from Hong Kong-based company State Energy HK, $100,000 from CEFC Infrastructure, $3.7 million from an entity named Hudson West 3, $7.3 million from Ukrainian energy company Burisma.
After confirming that the total amount of foreign money paid to Hunter Biden, his family, and his associates between 2014 and 2019 from foreign amounted to more than $17 million, Rep. Comer asked Ziegler the purpose behind documenting Biden’s foreign income and whether or not he possesses evidence to support his claims. …
By: Jack Buckby ~ Published 2 mins ago [7/20/2023]
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/07/something-is-wrong-with-hunter-biden/
Twitter Video:
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1681731248689954832/vid/1920×1080/4I4GHjKZErgJgYe_.mp4?tag=16
During the Jim Crow era, corrupt prosecutors indicted many Black people who were, in fact, guilty of the crimes they were charged with.
The corruption lies in the fact that the prosecutors turned a blind eye to similar crimes when they were committed by White people.
The same principle holds true with Trump and the DOJ.
Even if Trump is found guilty of one or more crimes, the convictions should be vacated if it can be shown that the DOJ repeatedly turned a blind eye to similar crimes when they were committed by Democrats.
None of what they are trying to charge Trump with have ever been prosecuted.
𝐆𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐧 𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐬𝐨𝐦: 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐉𝐨𝐞 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 ‘𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭’
It’s Time for a New Democratic Ticket…as in Gavin Newsom – President Joe Biden is one of the most unpopular people to ever run for reelection.
By: Brandon Weichert ~ July 12, 2023
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/07/gavin-newsom-the-joe-biden-replacement/
That’s just great. Now all of America can be the train wreck that California already is. Gag me with a spoon.
If the federal government’s seven-year parade of lies, censorship, investigations, and indictments—all focused on bringing down Trump and his supporters—is not ground to a halt by the Supreme Court, we may as well shred and burn the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution.
Is there ANY phrase, term or utterance that isn’t “racially insensitive” if it isn’t framed by a “civil rights contex”?
Much better discussions:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/19/the-three-reported-charges-against-trump-371-1512-and-maybe-242/
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/20/trumps-attack-on-black-votes-was-there-the-whole-time-we-just-didnt-call-it-a-crime/
Turley is of course ignoring the central issue, that there was an effort to present fraudulent electors to the National Archives (and thus Congress). That is clearly illegal and if Trump had anything to do with that, then he should be prosecuted.
Fraudulent Electors were presented, that’ s how biden got installed.
Pay better attention. It’s fraudulent Trump electors who’ve been indicted.
I won’t pay attention to it at all. I watched the goofball government liar spew from his appointed position it was the fairest election in the history of the USA.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The 2020 election was stolen and literally everyone knows it. It was plotted when the crime family lost their crazy estrogen bid in 2016 after they lied to everyone it was a 98%+ for sure win.
If you haven’t realized the system has zero credibility now, time for you to pay attention.
OT but related to a previous Turley column: Stanford DIE dean resigns, the one who added to the disruption of a conservative judge’s speech rather than trying to calm things down.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stanford-dei-administrator-who-accosted-conservative-judge-resigns-another-opportunity
The Biden’s Pay-Off was in a pile of $100 Dollar Bills. Those aren’t Rubels, Those aren’t Yuans.
Who Bought this War Mr. Soros – Who$ Money ???
Wars are being Bought & Sold, so that the Yield (Net$) can be made by a few on the Global Markets.
The ‘Dirty Money’ is no longer the $100 Dollar Bill, it’s transferred via Crypto these Days.
The Syndicate (DEMs/REPs, CIA, FBI, DHS, …) run the insiders-game.
The rest of Us are just casualties of profit$.
FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Like Hunter, got careless and greedy with the Syndicate’s Money (The Clinton’s as well).
so he’ll pay the price like a few before him did.
2024 will be yet again Proof that this is not a Republic but an Syndicated-Empire.
Grassley Obtains & Releases FBI Record Alleging VP Biden Foreign Bribery Scheme
Grassley, Comer to continue joint inquiry into FBI handling of significant, politically charged investigations
Date ~ 07.20.2023
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-obtains-and-releases-fbi-record-alleging-vp-biden-foreign-bribery-scheme
1023 pdf:
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/download/fd-1023-obtained-by-senator-grassley_-biden?download=1
Eyes Wide Shut because Our Minds are Closed
Money like the the type Burisma had piled up on a table in US $100 Dollar Bills, doesn’t just come to a businesses conference room table by collection from Street Currency Exchangers. Nope – Money like That came from the Mint, was flown to Ukraine and Other places around the World, and stored in CIA/US Governmental Dispensaries. Does it really matter where it came from? They bought a War.
[Think of the Movie: Mad Money, where in side the Mint Money is transported in locked-custom ATA Flight Cases and transported to destinations around the World.
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/burisma-1.jpg?resize=744,496&quality=75&strip=all
From an Accounting aspect it is sometimes disguised as ‘Foreign Aid or Military Budget Overhead’ which is allocated by Congressional Appropriations Committee (Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense) in a Blanket Bill.
Burisma didn’t like the idea that Russia had successfully built a Gas Pipeline to Europe, and because it threaten the Ukrainian Gas Supplier Cash Flow of Euros € . So a pay-off to Joe Biden via Hunter Biden was made to obtain the covert intervention of the US Government.
To the Biden’s, it easy money and just repatriating a cut to them.
The Russians didn’t blow up their own Pipeline, the Ukrainians did it with the U.S.’s help.
It only strengthened the Russian Hand. They aligned more closely to B.R.I.C. and Other Partners.
And it has weaken the U.S. – Washington’s level of mentality is that Tactical-Thermonuclear War is the answer.
It’s just a matter of getting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to push the Button and blaming it on the Russians.
Ukraine and the Balkans will trigger it off an “incident”. ☢️
As long as your eyes are on the Trump Indictment and Biden Investigations, They can park an Aircraft Carrier in your Mother backyard,
and no one will know the difference. Distraction
This is a time of ‘escalation’, the pieces are in play and moving on the Chess Board.
How to turn a Cold War into a Hot War
“Mr. Smith Goes to Washington — With a Possible New Indictment of Donald Trump”
– Professor Turley
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How many “indictments” of President Donald J. Trump have there been; isn’t it the same old thing over and over?
How many “indictments” will there be?
As Lincoln physically jailed and crushed his political opposition, the Biden Crime Family perverts the tools of power to destroy Biden’s opponent.
The American Revolutionaries decried “taxation without representation!”
Now, Americans again suffer “…a long train of abuses and usurpations.”
America is sick; America is ill; someone please call the doctor.
It is long past time, Men!
____________________
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
– Declaration of Independence, 1776
As momentum builds for a Special Counsel to be appointed, let’s be clear about to investigate what. The Dems will agree to limit it to the IRS investigation, but, that’s a distraction ploy. The case is about the Biden Family’s clandestine
Infuence Peddling Racket, and must include any and all Quid Pro Quos arranged for foreign interests. Obstructions of justice (the Cover Up) are included, but not the main focus.
It’s time to get very clear about the next steps.
Joey and Hunter got 5 million bucks each in quid pro quo bribes
fbi FD1023 released – the mafia potus should resign
– 𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐲 𝐎𝐛𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬 & 𝐑𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐅𝐁𝐈 𝐑𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐕𝐏 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐁𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐒𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐦𝐞 –
Grassley, Comer to continue joint inquiry into FBI handling of significant, politically charged investigations
WASHINGTON – Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today released an unclassified FBI-generated record describing an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Joe Biden and a Ukrainian business executive. Grassley acquired the record, an FD-1023, via legally protected disclosures by Justice Department whistleblowers.
grassley.senate.gov ~ 07.20.2023
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-obtains-and-releases-fbi-record-alleging-vp-biden-foreign-bribery-scheme
Download PDF:
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/download/fd-1023-obtained-by-senator-grassley_-biden?download=1
They’ve got em dead to rights so of course nothing is going to happen. We’re stuck in the demoncommie warped clown world for now.
Not sure how this criminals in charge mess is going to play out.
RELEASED: FBI document detailing alleged $10M Biden bribery scheme publicized by Republicans – Burisma
CEO Zlochevsky called Hunter ‘stupid’ but necessary to keep on board because ‘his dad’ then-Vice President Joe Biden could ‘protect’ from ‘problems’
The FBI FD-1023 form was created on June 30, 2020 based off information from a highly-paid informant. It says Zlochevsky was ‘coerced’ to make $10 million total payments to the Bidens. Burisma hired Hunter Biden to ‘protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems,’ according to the document
DAILYMAIL.COM
Joseph Biden: “Hunter is the most intelligent person I know
CEO Zlochevsky: “Hunter is stupid”
The Form 1023 says that one Alexander Ostapenko was on the calls and in the meeting when Zlochevsky discussed his extortion by the Biden’s. The Form also says that Ostapenko was working for Zelensky. Has he been questioned?
This should be very damaging to Joe Biden, if anyone is paying attention.
Hunter Biden hired by Ukrainian firm to ‘protect’ it from corruption probe
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-informant-told-agents-hunter-biden-hired-burisma
“The memo clearly states Burisma owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, told the informant he had been “coerced” into paying the Biden’s money and estimated the price tag to be $10 million.
“Zlochevsky stated he didn’t want to pay the Bidens and he was pushed to pay them,” the report stated.”
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-informant-told-agents-hunter-biden-hired-burisma
>”This should be very damaging to Joe Biden, if anyone is paying attention.”
This should be enough for congress, such as they are, to immediately investigate Biden et al *unwavering*, seemingly endless, support for Zelenskiy. To the last Ukrainian.
How is it possible Russia, with a total defense budget of $60b 2022, has more weapons and ammunition than the combined defense budgets of U.S./NATO in the trillions? Or the combined $200b sent to Ukraine so far?
Over 300k Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, twice that number wounded. Mercifully, *only* 20k or so civilians killed. Ukraine’s pre-war population of around 40m is down to 20m. Tens of millions of refugees. Trillions in destruction.
*nuclear war is a terrible thing to be wrong about .. . maybe the worst of things to be wrong about.
Hey this clown fraud biden backwashed near 100 billion in arms in Afghanistan on the way out – thinking they didn’t spread wide kickback pay for that is pretending to be stupid.
We have FTX the megadonor running around Ukraine doing his gen dipster skits as he sloshed the stoeln cash around like the rest of them.
It’s a huge criminal racket and joey and hunter rake in their multi millions anyone noticing outloud gets cancelled. We’ve heard of at least 5 countries where they were big bucks in bribes and quid pro quos and then this evidence which has been around a long time finally hits – I suspect they all waited until the statute of limitations expired – whatever
They’re so dirty we can’t even imagine it.
Hunter was on some other flight to China and around the world with the big guy the other day so they’re still doing it. We won’t hear about those scams except quietly on shadowbanned alternate media years from now.
Trump. There is only Trump and aught else beside him.
Here’s how it works. Whatever Hunter and the big guy [may] have done, it was a Trump-appointed AG (Barr) and USA Weiss that let them do it. Merrick Garland and president Biden are merely innocent bystanders. Both the obstruction and cover up were all Trump-appointed. It’s the same thing as Trump doing it himself. Trump did it .. . Burisma, the money, the hookers and everything.
Working as Putin asset, Trump probably started the war in Ukraine. And, worse, Trump has threatened to end it.
inflation+chaos+anarchy= Trump
*Biden for president 2024 ‘Trump Has All the Hallmarks of Russian Disinformation’
So what you’re saying is when you stuff a banana up your nose, evidence indicates it was really Anthony Weiner who stuck it in your ear.
Same page, for sure.
What is your source for over 300k Ukrainian soldiers killed? RFK Jr has used that figure without sourcing it to anyone.
“Ukrainian attrition greatly favors Russia
While Ukraine and the West generally are silent about Ukrainian casualties, a reasonable estimate is that they have lost as many as 300,000 troops in 17 months of fighting. This horrific figure is unsustainable, matching U.S. troops killed in battle in all of World War II.”
Particularly good USA Today article https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/when-will-ukraine-join-nato-russian-military-fortifications-may-hold-the-answer/ar-AA1dPbUJ
*numerous other military ‘experts’, such as UN Weapons inspector Scott Ritter, Col Douglas Mcgreagor, VIPS, Oryx, Telegram, Reddit, and other ‘open source’ reporting you won’t find in the NYT.
Whose “reasonable estimate” and how was it arrived at? The article does not say. Moreover, it does not say killed, or killed and wounded.
Don’t get me wrong, I think this war resulted from the policy of the US to expand NATO into Ukraine, was entirely avoidable and the Ukrainians are very unlikely to recapture much territory. And if they do, the risk of a nuclear response rises considerably.
But this 300k figure has been bandied about without any support whatsoever.
A question I have, what did the Attorney General authorize the Special Counsel to investigate, he has ventured into a few subject matters which seen to not align, Documents, January 6th? Has the authorization issued by Justice been made public, was there a sunset, was there a budget? Just asking?
The very premise of this article — that the venue where a trial is held would make a difference due to politics — demonstrates that the prosecution is actually political persecution.
Swamp drainage projects are so difficult when you’re up to your ass in legal alligators.
Old George: NO. The “very premise of this article” is that Turley is paid by Fox to use his credentials to spread the message that Trump would not receive a fair trial in DC–based on the percentage of votes he received there–not the legitimacy of Trump’s criminal conduct. Turley holds himself out to be a legal scholar, and yet, uses his credentials to spread distrust of our legal system. Turley knows that when jurors are called for jury duty, they take an oath to tell the truth on voir dire, and then are questioned as a group and then individually about potential prejudices, beginning with the parties, counsel and prospective witnesses. Our entire legal system is founded on the premise that jurors will NOT lie on voir dire, but Turley is spreading the message that a DC jury already cannot be trusted–even before there is any indictment. This is outrageous. Even more outrageous is that his “opinion” was purchased by a media outlet found liable for lying about voting machines being subject to manipulation–all to help Trump spread the Big Lie.
Equally outrageous is Turley’s efforts to equate Trump’s situation with “Mr Smith Goes to Washington”–proving, once again, that Turley’s knowledge of classic film is superficial, at best. He really needs to stop referring to classic films he knows little about. “Mr Smith Goes to Washington” is about a naive but idealistic man elected to Congress and who fights back against corruption. That has nothing whatsoever to do with Trump, the most-corrupt person ever to occupy the White House, starting with cheating to get into office, trying to leverage aid to Ukraine in exchange for ginning up lies about Biden, staring an insurrection after he couldn’t bully state election officials into rigging votes for him, and stealing classified documents. Turley: why not discuss the merits of these matters, instead of attacking the integrity of our jury trial system.
The “very premise” of this article is to try to continue to spread the message that Trumpy Bear is a victim of “political persecution”. Turley never delves into the merits of his conduct: paying off a porn actress with campaign funds, findraising over the Big Lie, stealing classified documents, refusing to return them, lying about returning them and then submitting a false affidavit saying all had been returned. Trump is the biggest crook ever to darken the door of the White House–and that’s saying a lot.
+100
Ah, ha!
NUTCHACHACHA strikes again from communist party headquarters with a full measure of propaganda and indoctrination materials for the purpose of brainwashing idiots whom the American Founders would have NEVER allowed to vote, much less be admitted into America to become a citizen (imagine that, a country overwhelmed by illegal alien invaders for more than a century and a half).
CLEAN UP ON ISLE THREE!!!
She is absolutely terrified of losing her “fair share” of “free stuff” and “free status” and having to be self-reliant, understanding that Thou Shalt Not Covet.
If NUTCHACHACHA does anything, it’s COVET.
Where did you go to law school?
Old George.
Sort of like the classified documents case being tried near Trump’s Mar a Lago home in Florida with a Trump appointed judge?
Attorney who ‘refused to bring charges’ against Hunter Biden donated to president’s 2020 campaign, whistleblower claims
Hunter Biden struck a deal with the DOJ, to plead guilty to misdemeanor tax charges which allows him to avoid prosecution for a separate gun charge Gary Shapley alleges U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, who donated to President Biden’s campaign, ‘refused to bring charges’ against Hunter for tax evasion. A second IRS whistleblower, Joseph Ziegler, also told the Oversight Committee that the investigation ‘supported felony and misdemeanor tax charges’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12318159/Attorney-refused-bring-charges-against-Hunter-Biden-donated-presidents-2020-campaign-whistleblower-claims.html
“The very premise of this article — that the venue where a trial is held would make a difference due to politics — demonstrates that the prosecution is actually political persecution.”
No, this is an opinion piece, not a “news” item, whatever that is these days. It’s an opinion piece that in no way “demonstrates” the prosecution is actually political persecution. That may be his opinion, that may be your opinion. Your opinion does not make it so. Maybe it is political, maybe not. Let the facts fall where they may.
Nobody in the public knows all the facts of this case yet. Turley admits this yet, jumps to assumptions. One can only wonder if his relation with Fox has tarnished his views. Everybody has a price, did Turley get his?
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Hunter Biden hired by Ukrainian firm to ‘protect’ it from corruption probe
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-informant-told-agents-hunter-biden-hired-burisma
This great site is a microcosm of society at large. We have an issue, we have opinions on said issue and we have the vast majority agreeing on what is right and what is wrong while having 10% of the people (commenters) screaming by commenting a hundred time against the 90% of us that see the world correctly.
It’s like the trans movement or the open borders people or the climate freaks, 10% of the people stomping their feet until they get their way. Anonymous is like Greta Thurnberg or some trans activist, just screaming until society starts ruining itself by listening to them.
HullBobby,
Well said.
As more and more evidence comes into light be it from masks, vaccines, lab leaks, classified documents obtained while a senator, payments through 20 LLC companies, to a firm paying bribes paid to protect from corruption probe ( Hunter Biden hired by Ukrainian firm to ‘protect’ it from corruption probe https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-informant-told-agents-hunter-biden-hired-burisma ), they will scream more and more.
Or, spread their misinformation, disinformation and out right lies.
“…against the 90% of us that see the world correctly.”
Wow, you know what is Correct. Congratulations.
Have you bought beach front property in Florida for your kids to live on in their senior years? Heck beach front property in Florida may be underwater in as little as 20 years. But no worry, its just whacky climate nazis saying this right?
Correct, and you’re one of them. You’ve done it before, and moved the date decades now already.
LOL that you think this site represents US society at large.
Based on what we know publicly, there seems to be only two options for Trump if convicted: Prison or a Plea Deal
Of those 2 options, even if Trump chooses prison (his choice) it will be a country club style prison until his sentence gets commuted or pardoned by the next Republican president.
Either way, it’s really dumb to keep antagonizing Jack Smith. Really dumb!
Trump probably should worry more about state level prosecutions since those convictions can’t be commuted or pardoned by a future Republican president.
Very insightful! Is this analysis based on Perry Mason or Matlock case studies?
Perry Mason and Mattlock, specialized in defending homicide cases. Do you know something we don’t about Trump?
Just kidding, this assessment came from a former Republican federal prosecutor that prosecuted government corruption cases.
This is Chris Christie’s legal prediction and he knows about corrupt politicians!
LOL! No, I don’t know anything about Trump that “we don’t”. Where did you get that idea?
Questions:
-Are you meaning to imply that homicide cases do not have the options “if convicted (sic): Prison or a Plea Deal” ?
-Is the “Plea Deal” arranged before the conviction? If so, plea deals are really not an option after conviction.
-Criminal convictions generally have a range of specified sentences. You stated “only two options for Trump if convicted: Prison or a Plea Deal”? Given that statement and that this prediction comes from Chris Christie, what is the specific crime in this case and the specific sentence that Chris thinks will be applied?
I am sure you are correct that if anybody knows about corrupt politicians, it is Chris Christie. However, the “legal prediction” that you attribute to him is less than profound.
You would also pay money to Chris Christie to get access to his weight reduction, gym training app.
Youre welcome
See arkancide and the clinton hit list. Weiner doth protest too much. We know something about the clinton’s everyone else knows too
If Biden has an aversion to feathers and tar, he will Pardon Trump.