The Biden ‘Brand’: Devon Archer Reveals the ‘Niceties’ of Influence-Peddling

Below is my column in The Messenger on the new evidence supplied by Hunter Biden’s close friend and former business associate Devon Archer. The effort of Rep. Dan Goldman to spin the damaging testimony spiraled out of control as it did in his prior effort to question IRS whistleblowers. Goldman is demanding that any further investigations stop immediately after a key witness showed that President Biden has been lying for years in denying that he had any knowledge of his son’s foreign dealings. Archer discussed over 20 calls from Joe Biden and the use of the calls to “sell the brand.” The second Trump impeachment was launched on the basis for a single phone call, but Goldman insists that the millions that were received by the Bidens, the countervailing whistleblower testimony, the proven false statements, and the allegation of bribery are all insufficient to ask any further questions.

Here is the column:

“There were niceties.” That description by Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) of calls between President Joe Biden, his son Hunter, and Hunter’s foreign business associates may, strangely, be the most accurate thing the freshman congressman has ever said.

The almost-two-dozen calls — detailed by Hunter Biden’s close friend and former business partner, Devon Archer, during a closed-door interview Monday with House Oversight Committee investigators — were indeed “the niceties” of influence-peddling. The calls presumably were intended to show that Hunter Biden could deliver his father and to support what Archer called “the brand.” Hunter had no relevant experience or appreciable business skills, but he had the vice president of the United States on speed-dial.

The selection of Goldman as the only committee Democrat in the interview was ironic. Goldman was a Democratic staff attorney when the House impeached Donald Trump in 2019 largely on the basis of a single telephone call to the president of Ukraine. Now, however, Goldman is calling for an immediate cessation of any further investigation, in an almost comical display of denial and deflection.

Goldman helped demolish Biden’s long-standing defense in another hearing just a week earlier. In an effort to defuse the testimony of two IRS whistleblowers, who said Hunter received special protection from their criminal investigation, Goldman tripped the wire and elicited testimony that Joe Biden may in fact have spoken with his son about foreign dealings — something the president has denied for years.

Goldman said that “Joe Biden came to say hello at the Four Seasons hotel to a lunch that he [Hunter Biden] was having” with Chinese energy company executives. He then read from the record how another Hunter associate, Rob Walker, described the origins of that meeting with the Chinese to get his father to stop by: “Hunter told his dad that ‘I may be trying to start a company or try to do something with these guys.’” As with the twenty-some phone calls, Goldman dismissed Joe Biden’s sudden appearance as a fatherly drive-by.

On Monday, Goldman tried to dismiss a trusted Hunter Biden partner who was detailing how the then-vice president was critical to selling “the brand.” The new spin was to admit that the senior Biden did speak with Hunter’s business associates but only to exchange “niceties” when he was put on speakerphone at meetings and dinners. Goldman noted that Archer testified the elder Biden did not discuss “any business dealings or transactions” and said it would be a “preposterous premise to think that a father should not say hello to people that the son is at dinner with.”

What is truly preposterous is Goldman’s suggestion that these figures would have discussed corrupt deliverables on a speakerphone in restaurants. That was not the point of the calls. The point would have been that Hunter and his team were selling access, and the calls with his vice president/father confirmed that he was deliverable.

In Washington, influence-peddling is an art form, and the Bidens appear to be political Rembrandts. Demands are conveyed through as few people as possible. For example, Archer reportedly detailed how, in 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky and Vadym Pozharski, two executives of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, pressed Hunter to “get help from D.C.” to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma for corruption. Archer reportedly said that Hunter, Zlochevsky and Pozharski stepped away to make a call.

That is how it is done — not on a speakerphone in a popular restaurant filled with political and media figures while ordering more breadsticks.

Then-Vice President Biden, who oversaw U.S. support for Ukraine, later made a billion-dollar aid package dependent on the prosecutor’s firing. The prosecutor was promptly fired, as Joe Biden himself later bragged.

That is why Hunter allegedly could tell Chinese business associates that “The Bidens are the best at doing exactly what the Chairman wants.” What that corporate chairman wanted, of course, was influence.

It increasingly appears to have been no idle boast. The very things that Rep. Goldman and others are citing is what has long made the Bidens — in the minds of many — the first family of influence-peddling. Business associates were told to use code names for Joe Biden like “the big guy,” according to reports, and used a labyrinth of accounts to transfer money to family members, according to House investigators.

Democrats have demanded to see evidence of direct payments to Joe Biden, which would be an amateur-hour move. The accounts of the president and vice president are some of the most scrutinized in the world, subject to reporting requirements and vulnerable to congressional subpoenas.

Finally, Hunter’s laptop emails detail a variety of alleged benefits to the Biden family. One referenced a 10% cut on a deal for the “big guy.” Other arrangements included free offices for Joe and Jill Biden and donations to foundations linked to the Bidens.

Devon Archer’s new evidence apparently brings this picture further into focus: As Hunter and his partners pitched “the brand,” Joe Biden apparently supplied the bona fides by stopping by lunches or calling into dinners.

That would be all that was needed to net millions of dollars.

In weeks to come, Congress is expected to release information on additional foreign payments going to the Biden family from additional sources. That’s the value of branding. As Starbucks founder Howard Schultz once observed, “If people believe they share values with a company, they will stay loyal to the brand.” It appears that the Bidens shared some values with the foreign oligarchs and operatives who embraced their brand. The rest was — well, in the words of Rep. Goldman, just “niceties.”

Jonathan Turley, an attorney, constitutional law scholar and legal analyst, is the Shapiro Chair for Public Interest Law at The George Washington University Law School. 

259 thoughts on “The Biden ‘Brand’: Devon Archer Reveals the ‘Niceties’ of Influence-Peddling”

  1. Everyone knows Trump only hires Republicans most loyal to Trump.

    This entire indictment is 100% based on the testimony of Trump’s most loyal supporters at the time. Not a single Democrat testified in the most recent indictment.

    Attorney General Garland also appointed the most non-partisan and professional special prosecutor in Jack Smith.

    Still believe it’s a witch-hunt? Citizen-juries in at least 3 states, including Florida, will test the evidence along with a Trump appointed judge in Florida. Citizens will rule on these cases.

    Our children are watching – maybe start acting like grownups and let Trump take personal responsibility!

    1. Ok, see you when its over and your “least partisan” hack Jack Smith has been slapped down by the SCOTUS again for stretching prosecution. That is, IF they dont succeed in securing a change of venue outside of DC, where they can get just one non-koolade-drinking-moron onto the jury.

    2. I will believe you are a grownup when u post twice in a row wothout mentioning Trump.
      And i doubt you have children, or if you do, that they are watching anything other than msnbc.

    3. “Attorney General Garland also appointed the most non-partisan . . . special prosecutor in Jack Smith.”

      You claim that with a straight face — about the creature who used the IRS to target conservatives?!

        1. “Sam, he is just trying to get a response from people.”

          So here’s the thing:

          They’re lying. They know you know they’re lying. Yet they continue to lie.

          It is truly frightening to have creatures in power who lack a conscience. Atrocities always follow.

          1. Sam, leftists have always used lies as a method of gaining power. They wish to break the fabric of a nation. They depend on the following fools: bug, svelaz, peter hill, dennis, and others to sell the lies to others. That is why these fools cannot defend their positions. They are not in charge. They are intellectual cannon fodder.

            1. “They are not in charge.”

              Sorry for my unclear pronoun reference. By “they” in “They’re lying . . .” I meant the Bidens, Garlands, Smiths of the Leftist culture.

              You’re right. The ones you mentioned are of no consequence. They are merely useful idiots.

    4. To clarify,
      I believe there will likely be a conviction in the case re:classified documents, and rightly so.
      The other two, u are dreaming if you think a conviction will hold up.

      However The handling of classified materials is about more than intent. Do you think the career navy submariner intended to sabotage national security when he took pictures of himself in the sub? Yet biden gets to skate because he voluntarily gave back what he should never have had? Including documents that he had to willfully steal in order to possess them as a senator?? Why dont you grow up ATS?

    5. “Everyone knows Trump only hires Republicans most loyal to Trump.”

      Again, note this icon. It shows a stupid person and a liar. What everyone knows is many of the people Trump hired ended up not being loyal while at the same time not being truthful. Trump didn’t do a good job in hiring people to work for him in government.

      In any event, look at this icon and recognize it to be from a kook and a liar.

    6. Oh, non partisan Jack Smith. the same Jack Smith who worked along side Lois Lerner at the IRS. That non-partisan Jack Smith. I see.

  2. On Aug. 7, 1974, Senator Barry Goldwater, R-Ariz., House Minority Leader John Rhodes, R-Ariz. and Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott, R-Pa., made it clear to the President Nixon that he faced all-but-certain impeachment, conviction and removal from office in connection with the Watergate scandal.

    Which Democrats will perform this service to the country in 2023?

    1. Ken, sadly the Democrats are like the mob, nobody will ever turn against the party. Odd that even greed and hubris stand no chance against the mob/party. Imagine how much fame and fortune Woodward and Bernstein got for their “exclusive reporting”, then think about how not one WAPO or NY Times “reporters” will blow this scandal wide open??? It is odd, corrupt and sickening.

      1. I( found a recent Harris poll interesting.

        Something like 85:15 people support Israel over Hamas right now.
        But among young people it is 52:48.

        How is it that so many people in one generation can be so incredibly wrong and so morally bankrupt.

  3. I wonder what ATS and the like are going to say if/when someday the House produces the audio recordings of Joe talking to Z. If those prove what has been alleged, that he was guilty of bribery AND extortion, where will they hide? Behind a flawed interpretation of McDonnell?? Devon Archer wasn’t about to implicate himself in the bribery plot before a panel that could not grant him immunity. Thats why hunter and z “stepped away” to call “DC”. Convenient for him. He stated that he knew why they were calling, yet he has “plausible deniability” of being involved??
    Horse manure. The there is there, and dem-wits like Goldman know it, which is why they keep stamping their feet and demanding an end to the investigation.

    1. The thing is, Joe could have put this all to rest years ago, by simply producing one lousy document that authorized him to leverage $1B dollars that didnt belong to him, against the affairs of an independent “democracy”. Why hasn’t he??? Because it doesnt exist.

      1. And the best part is, he is going down thanks to his narcissism. Bragging on video about his illicit actions LMAO. What a dunce! No wonder Hunter is the smartest guy he knows.
        The only thing that can save him is that Kamala is the smartest person she knows.

        1. Tom, I love your point about how dumb Biden is to have gone on stage and video to brag about his corruption. This shows how damn arrogant the guy is. It also shows that Obama had to have known/been in on it as well.

          Biden is like the idiots that put their crimes on YouTube of other social media just to brag. The guy is a dunce.

          1. It also shows that Obama had to have known/been in on it as well.

            Absolutely Hullbobby. Obama, Kerry, Clinton, all of them. Include in that the Secret Service details. I believe Obama’s failure to get Garland on SCOTUS was the beginning of the radical turning of the Democratic party. Their claws came out in the 2016 election, but that failed. That loss triggered the wolves to shed their sheep’s clothing and come out of hiding in the FBI/DOJ/IC and the Democratic party. I believe everything that’s happened since is a direct result of them executing their only remaining strategy to shield Obama, the Democratic party and what they’ve built within the administrative state. If/when Obama is directly implicated, then they all are. This would also expose everything the Left has been pushing here and worldwide, in what Obama referred to as the fundamental transformation. They are at a point where they cannot rely on a soft totalitarian transformation that would have continued with a Clinton victory. They have had to go radical and because the country is not where they need it to be, they will not risk the normal electoral process to determine their fate.

    2. Tom,
      They will do their usual, pretend it never happened or make some wild claim contrary to reality.
      Like the NYT ignoring the fact their so-called prize winning reporting of RussiaGate was entirely false.
      Or some people still claiming it is a fact.

  4. “… She’s the insurance. …” ?

    Other viable Democratic Candidates for the top slot in 2024 or 2028:
    Sens. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.), former national security adviser Susan Rice and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D).

  5. What the Democrats are doing to Trump is what you would expect from a bananan republic, or the Soviet Union. Trump is to Biden what Navalny is to Putin. I’m glad I was able to expose this, so maybe they will stop it now.

  6. Professor Turley should write a piece on Fred Trump’s 1927 arrest. Similar to a Black Lives Matter protester, apparently Fred Trump was protesting police abuses in New York and was arrested.

    Instead of Black Lives Matter protest, this was essentially a “Protestant Lives Matter” protesting Catholics in the police department.

    Fred Trump was apparently arrested while wearing a Klu Klux Klan white robe protesting Catholics!

    1. “Fred Trump was apparently arrested while wearing a Klu Klux Klan white robe protesting Catholics!”

      Memorize the above icon. This statement is dumb and a lie. That is the sum total of this icons existence as a sock puppet to another.

  7. “Finally, Hunter’s laptop emails detail a variety of alleged benefits to the Biden family. One referenced a 10% cut on a deal for the “big guy.” Other arrangements included free offices for Joe and Jill Biden and donations to foundations linked to the Bidens.”

    Alleged benefits from alleged deals. From Hunter’s laptop emails there are people spitballing ideas which did not end up being actual deals. Can Turley point to an actual time when Joe and Jill Biden got a free office from someone? Really, who did he get that from? Can Turley point to an actual deal that came into existence in which “the big guy” got a 10% cut? Really, what deal was that?

    1. If it were not for a corrupt DOJ, FBI, IRS, the good professor just might be able to point to a actual deal. As long as there is a corrupt DOJ, FBI, IRS, they will delay, deflect, and cover for the Biden Crime Family right along with MSM.
      It is all on display for all to see, except the willfully ignorant.

    2. JoJo, the Democrats won’t let honest public servants investigate, so the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There is however plenty if probable cause here for an investigation.

      1. Comer and Jordan’s committees have been investigating Hunter’s laptop nonstop. They really do little else. They have subpoenaed witnesses and documents. They have found nothing so they keep bringing up these emails spitballing ideas and try to make a lot of innuendo about it because they really have found nothing.

        The Republican House has been focused on this topic more than any other, and it has really been a busy for them.

        1. JoJo, they found a lot, even without support from the DOJ—apparent money laundering. And Joe getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold billions in aid is remarkably similar to what the Democrats impeached Trump for and wreaks of a quid pro quo by Joe Biden. Joe even bragged about it publicly, advertising that Brandon’s brand can deliver.

    3. Unlike the Dem’s attitude with accused Republicans who must prove their innocence, there are still some who believe in the rule of law and therefore used “alleged” as a qualifier until proven otherwise.

  8. Ladies and gentleman, I give you Fake President Joetard, better known to his associates as “the Big Guy.”:

  9. Playing on comedian Steve Martin’s 1980’s act:

    Trump’s next book may be titled “How to turn 2.5 billion into $10 cash”

    1. Which goes to show: he didn’t get into politics for the money. He was already rich, and he accepted only $1/year salary. His opportunity costs during those 4 years were enormous. He got in to literally try and make America great again. His actions showed it: with energy independence, low inflation and unemployment, criminal justice reform, reform of international trade agreements to be more favorable toward America, NATO reform so the allies don’t keep sucking America dry, and on and on.

      Contrast that with “Joe Biden” whose entire political career has been designed to enrich himself while selling out our interests to our enemies.

    2. Hunter Biden’s next book may be titled “How to use the family “brand” name to make millions while doing nothing.”

      Joe Biden’s next book may be titled “mumble, mumble, mumble . . . End of quote . . .”

  10. As usual Republicans will talk, talk and talk.

    Nothing happens until the Harris problem is solved. She’s the insurance.

    1. Nothing will happen either, because “Joe Biden” is not a person but a zombie – a puppet the anti-American radicals who want to tear down this country and build it back in their own image can control, that will read literally anything they put on a teleprompter (a la Ron Burgundy), including “end of quote, repeat the statement.” He cannot even ride a bike, walk up steps, or stand at a graduation without falling down. He gets off on sniffing little girls’ hair and biting babies. He is a colossal embarrassment on the world stage . . . because the fact he is a zombie can only be hidden for so long. Regardless, he’s useful to the Left, so they’ll keep him around, and probably rig the next election (again) so he stays in office another four years.

  11. I’m just watching all this awful injustice and hate in our country . Why is this so complicated for President Trump’s attorneys ? Think about this. . Let’s be Trump for a few seconds .. immediately after you have won the election, The Democrats will not accept your win. People are steaming to the moon because they hate you. . The Democrats decide that they will not got to your inauguration. . You think you have staff and all government working with you . Then you find out they are your enemies . They fake a book on you being a Russian Spy.. Some in your cabinet that are Military are scheming against you. All you want to do is make America Great Again. You feel alone . You feel there is not one of the people you think are on your side are not. . How would you feel about anything else they start throwing at you? Do you not feel in your heart, your soul, and your mind that the government is out to destroy you? Meanwhile you go all over the country drawing large crowds of followers that love you and see that you are compassionate about making America Great Again. Crowds never seen before for a President . You know that the majority of Americans agree with what you are doing . At the same time Joe Biden is in the basement. No crowds . No show of support and he wins the election. Would you , in your mind , your soul, your heart , not know that the election was not legitimate. It is driving you crazy ! You are a very compassionate and completely into continuing to make America Great Again, watching the people of this country supporting you visibly all over the country, and you lost election to Joe Biden? Yes I think I would believe that I won the election.

  12. Daniel Sachs Goldman is a Nepotistic Legend of Influence Peddlers, Some day his name will be carved into the Walls of Valhalla’s Hall of Influence Peddling.

    Daniel 𝐒𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐬 𝐆𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐦𝐚𝐧 – 𝐆𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐒𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐬 dose it get any better than that? – OMG ! Yes it dose: Levi Strauss & Co.
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    Daniel Sachs Goldman (born February 26, 1976) is an American attorney and politician who is the member of the U.S. House of Representatives from New York’s 10th congressional district. A member of the Democratic Party, he previously served as lead majority counsel in the first impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump and lead counsel to House Managers in Trump’s subsequent impeachment trial.
    Goldman is among the wealthiest members of Congress, with an estimated personal net worth of up to $253 million according to financial disclosure forms. …

    Who is Daniel Goldman?
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    Goldman is among the wealthiest members of Congress, with an estimated personal net worth of up to $253 million according to financial disclosure forms. Washington, D.C., U.S.

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    How is Daniel Goldman related to Levi Strauss?
    Goldman is an heir to Levi Strauss & Co., where his maternal great-grandfather was president. His paternal grandfather, Richard Goldman, was a billionaire philanthropist in San Francisco who donated to many Bay Area environmental and Jewish organizations.Jan 19, 2023

    Levi Strauss heir Dan Goldman J.D. ’05 sworn in to U.S. Congress
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    Who is the heir to Levi Strauss fortune?
    Dan Goldman, who served as lead Democratic counsel in former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment, would be among the richest members of Congress if he’s successful in his bid to represent a newly redrawn district in New York City. It’s no secret that Goldman, 46, an heir to the Levi Strauss & Co.Jul 30, 2022

    Levi Strauss Heir Would Join Congress’s Richest With NYC Win
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    How much is the Strauss family worth?
    $4 billion
    Their collective net worth is over $4 billion. And revenues are up nearly 30% from 2020. There are also plans in motion to expand and innovate the business by offering a more convenient shopping experience using AI. The company has also acquired the major active wear brand, Beyond Yoga.Apr 1, 2022

    … … …
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  13. Trump indicted again.

    Turley and Congressional Republicans trying to change the subject to Hunter Biden again.

    Like clockwork. When Trump shoots someone on Fifth Avenue, we will hear from Turley about Hunter’s other child again.

    1. You can be sure Turley will eventually have an article about it. You’re projecting. With the Left, no matter how corrupt the sitting president is shown to be, the answer is always deflection in the form of: Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump.

    2. You have it backwards.
      When something damaging comes out about the Biden Crime Family, the Democrats come up with some other indictment.
      Then you cultists come to the Turley blog and try to deflect or deny what the good professor is pointing out.
      Just like a good little cultist. And it shows. Trump has never shot anyone, yet Hunter does in fact have a child that only until recently when the polls showed Biden in a poor light, did they flip and suddenly recognize the child.

    3. Hugh is another perfect example of the lunatic gaslighting of the left. Exactly the opposite of reality. Each of the 3 indictments of Trump have come the day AFTER bad news for the Bidens.
      Also, for the 10 millionth time, for the seemingly illiterate kool-ade drinkers, Hunter Biden has never been the subject—-Pedo Joe Bribin’ is.

    4. Hugh, I feel sorry for you. Just like your twin, the bug, you are not ignorant rather stupid. Ignorance can be corrected, stupidity cannot.

    5. Like clockwork.

      Hugh, you are on the right track regarding the timing, you simply have your timing backwards. And just like clockwork, the Georgia indictment will be next, right after another bombshell comes out regarding the Biden Crime family.

      From the Bongino podcast today:

      March 30th 2023 – Daily Mail: Hunter Biden was asked to use his FBI contacts to help his Chinese business partner arrested for bribery and money laundering – as whistleblower claims president’s son had ‘mole’ agent who tipped them off to investigation.
      March 30th 2023 – Trump indicted by NY Grand jury by Alvin Bragg for allegedly paying Stormy Daniels hush money. Stacked to 34 counts.
      June 8th 2023 – Joe Biden allegedly paid $5M by Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme, according to FBI document.
      June 9th, 2023 – Jack Smith charges Trump with 37 felonies and his longtime aide, Walt Nauta, with six felonies.
      July 26th, 2023 – Hunter Biden plea deal blows up.
      July 27th, 2023 – New Trump indictment says he ordered Mar-a-Lago Camera footage deleted. The new indictment also charges Carlos de Oliveira, a maintenance worker at Trump’s South Florida resort.
      July 31st, 2023 – Devin Archer testifies that he did talk with Joe Biden several times, and that Biden did meet with people Hunter was doing business with, blowing up Biden’s claims that he never spoke with his son about his businesses.
      August 1st, 2023 Trump indictment Jan. 6 riot was ‘Fueled by Lies’ from Trump, Special Counsel say.

  14. Anyone who has conducted business and has connections knows that knowing the right people who pull the levers will go a long way in cutting through red tape and usually involves a return of favor. The process is often conducted with a wink and a nod and as Frank Biden told Tony Bobulinski “We must have plausible deniability.”

    A good forensic accountant, given a full green light, could make short work of this question with a thorough audit. It is obvious from the whistleblower testimony that they IRS investigators were told to stand down.

    The larger crime is the coverup that is being coordinated through DOJ, government agencies and the media. NBC did not even cover this story and CBS and ABC gave it less than two minutes. This will eventually sting them.

    1. Wrong decade, wrong party. A Democrat today can be as corrupt or incompetent as the day is long, and there are no consequences. “Joe Biden” will never face consequences for his corruption and criminality, Hunter Biden will get a slap on the wrist for his extreme criminality, and nobody will ever be fired or demoted for the disastrous Afghan pullout, Scary Poppins, First Amendment violations as reflected in the Twitter and Facebook Files, spending literally over $100,000,000,000 on a pointless war in Ukraine while blocking any audit of where that money actually goes, killing and injuring millions of Americans with a corrupt and money-driven response to a Chinese-made virus while covering up America’s funding role in creating it, opening the border to terrorists and operatives from other countries whose sole purpose is to set up shop internally to do America harm, and on and on.

      This is the most corrupt and incompetent administration in U.S. history and they know they can act with impunity. The media will cover up their crimes, and they have jiggered the elections so they always win no matter what the votes actually are. The major agencies have become politicized and weaponized with the sole mission to protect the swamp and punish anyone the swamp sees as a threat.

      1. OldManFromKansas, excellent summary of the situation that we face. And what hope is there for the integrity of future elections?

  15. Too bad our election systems are corrupted at nearly every step in the process. Otherwise we could put a stop to this shitstorm in one cycle.

  16. Dan Goldman = Baghdad Bob

    Seriously, has anyone ever seen them together? Case closed.

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