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Rubin and Tribe Under Fire for Using the Massacre in Israel for Bizarre Attacks on Political Figures

In academia, one of the most common criticisms in research and discussions is that correlation does not mean causation. It refers to the logical fallacy for some who draw a cause-and-effect relationship between two events. The logical fallacy is captured in the Latin phrase cum hoc ergo propter hoc (‘with this, therefore because of this’). With the horrific attacks on Israel this week, some well-known commentators have been criticized for using the killing of hundreds by Hamas as a criticism of conservative figures or Republicans in general. That includes the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin who appeared to blame the GOP for inviting the attack and Professor Laurence Tribe who suggested (and later retracted) that the war was actually a “wag-the-dog” operation by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to distract from corruption allegations.

Rubin (who goes by the moniker “Jennifer Truthful, Not Neutral Rubin”) immediately attempted to use the attack as another attack on Republicans: “How about this: With US House in chaos and US military promotions on hold, Hamas struck. Republicans’ weakness invites terror.”

Putting aside the effort to use this tragedy as a political cudgel domestically, Rubin ignores the fact that the motion to vacate the chair succeeded due to a unanimous Democratic vote and just eight dissenting Republicans. The Democrats wanted to vacate the chair even though McCarthy was being criticized by the dissenters for working with them and they will now likely receive a far more strident speaker.

Rubin has also called for expelling Republican members, who voted against certifying the 2020 election. She further declared that “we have to collectively, in essence, burn down the Republican Party. We have to level them because if there are survivors, if there are people who weather this storm, they will do it again.”

The Washington Post has repeatedly failed to take down or correct columns containing false claims by Rubin. Instead, it has run her calls to end impartiality and neutrality in journalism.

Now Rubin is suggesting that Hamas decided to launch this massive attack because there is an acting Speaker in the House until next week. It appears that Hamas was just waiting for the motion to vacate to pass.

Laurence Tribe immediately used the massacre to attack Netanyahu. Citing the Washington Post, Tribe wrote “Is Netanyahu wagging the dog of war to take attention away from his own war on the independent judiciary? Can anyone put that past him?”

The response was fast and furious. It was even too much for figures like Keith Olbermann who condemned Tribe stating, “Well this is a moronic and indefensible POV.”

What was striking is that the media finally called out Tribe, who has regularly posted bizarre legal theories and personal attacks against conservative figures, including attacking Bill Barr (erroneously) over his faith. On MSNBC and other outlets, Tribe regularly makes profane or personal attacks against those who hold opposing views of constitutional interpretation, including myself. These attacks include false assertions that had to be later corrected.

These controversies highlight the need to restore an element of maturity and civility to commentary. The “everything-goes” mentality has now taken hold of major media outlets, which regularly feature trash talking and sensational claims. If the target of these attacks is a conservative or Republican, there is a sense of license to remove the safeties in public engagements.

Once again, it is possible to restore a modicum of civility and accuracy in our public discourse. All it takes is for people of good faith to turn away from the rage and return reason in our commentary.

 

602 thoughts on “Rubin and Tribe Under Fire for Using the Massacre in Israel for Bizarre Attacks on Political Figures”

  1. 100% Yes to THIS —–>>

    The Virginia Project
    @ProjectVirginia

    Oct 7
    America must prioritize the immediate removal of all foreign males of military age who have entered the United States illegally. There is no benefit worth the risk of a Hamas-style mass attack on Americans.

    1. @LauraLoomer
      Sources telling me that there were emergency intel meetings this weekend to discuss the rise of Hamas terror cells that are operating in American cities. These HAMAS terrorists came across the US border and are apparently planning to attack major US cities over the next 14 months.

      HAMAS has directed their supporters in their telegram to retaliate against Americans for US support of Israel.

      11:09 PM · Oct 8, 2023

    2. @LauraLoomer

      “Stay out of major cities. There’s going to be massive terrorist attacks in big cities over these next 14 months.

      We have been infiltrated. Our borders are open & the push to create a global Islamic caliphate has been activated.

      You don’t want to be in major cities. Stay away.”

    3. Joe Biden is an imposter president whose reckless anti-American policies have intentionally made all U.S. Citizens UNSAFE. President (gags me to give this POS that title) Biden must be impeached for treason and bribery. DO IT NOW CONGRESS.

  2. Worst troll-infested garbage site on the web, and the trolls appear to be employed by the site.

        1. We have not provided you today’s talking points yet. Do not post comments until provided our freshly minted DNC talking points compliments of George Soros

  3. Half the comments on here are from “Anonymous“ complaining about the civility policy for comments or that their comments were deleted. This is a transparent attempt to derail the conversation. It’s probably just bots deployed by the DNC anyway. Just ignore them.

    1. It’s ME complaining about Turley’s fraudulent Civility Policy, and it’s MY comments that this fraudulent website deleted all day long while letting Turley trolls post all kinds of trash about me. And I’m a Trump Supporter, which might be the reason that Turley’s fraudulent webmaster has been deleting my posts and allowing the other Turley trolls to violate Turley’s FAKE rules.

    2. How much does Turley pay you to lie about other commenters, and what was your previous screen name before you changed it to oldmanfromkansas?

    3. How does your baseless allegation that I’m probably a bot “deployed by the DNC” NOT violate Turley’s published Civility and Decorum rule banning “personal attacks and bullying”?
      When are you planning to answer my questions?

    4. I’ll ask you AGAIN because Turley’s webmaster apparently removed this question: How does your BASELESS accusation that I’m probably a bot deployed by the DNC not violate Turley’s published “Civility and Decorum Policy”: *** We do not tolerate personal attacks or bullying”?
      What basis do you have for publishing an accusation that someone is a “bot” and that they were “deployed by the DNC”?

  4. Turley’s “Civility and Decorum Policy”: *** We do not tolerate personal attacks or bullying.”

  5. “Laurence Tribe immediately used the massacre to attack Netanyahu. Citing the Washington Post, Tribe wrote “Is Netanyahu wagging the dog of war to take attention away from his own war on the independent judiciary? Can anyone put that past him?”
    *****************************
    Larry has a brain tumor – and it shows. Leave the guy alone. He says it’s benign. I’m open to other interpretations.

    https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/laurence_tribe_leaves_white_house_job_cites_symptoms_of_brain_tumor

  6. This whole thing is being orchestrated by Iran. Iran’s proxy in southern Lebanon is Hezbollah. Expect an invasion from the north soon. It is all coordinated. It will be a large scale war with Iran pulling the strings – all designed to disrupt the Arab-Israeli normalization process.

  7. More proof that Biden is an imbecile, his Cabinet members, but particularly Blinken, are inept and the release of $6 Billion to Iran was a fateful decision that has cost Israel dearly…all on Biden and his self-serving, reckless handlers. The historical ties between Iran and Hamas are well documented going back 3 decades. I found the following scholarly article in an academic journal via Google Search in less than 15 seconds, using keywords “Iran” “Hamas”. This isnt rocket science but apparently too complex for Biden inept woke team. Outrageous.

    Hamas as Tehran’s Agent
    https://www.meforum.org/63270/hamas-as-tehran-agent

    Middle East Quarterly
    Summer 2022

    Iran has provided Hamas with arms as well as military training. In 1991, Hamas opened offices in Tehran and was invited to a conference with other Iranian clients.

    Since the late 1980s, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been plying the Hamas terrorist group with cash and weapons while also teaching it how to be self-sufficient. With hundreds of millions of dollars from the Islamist Shiite regime in Tehran pouring into its coffers, the Sunni group has evolved over the past decades into the foremost Palestinian terror organization, capable of hitting Israel’s main population centers and strategic infrastructure. Yet Iran’s role is often overlooked when assessing the performance of Hamas in its multiple armed confrontations with Israel. Suprisingly, Israeli officials tend to downplay the Iranian regime’s role even though history shows that Tehran has played a major part. With continued Iranian assistance, Hamas can only be expected to grow in sophistication and lethality.

    1. Thank you for the citation. This journal always has excellent articles. The founder of the group is the son of Professor Richard Pipes the expert on Russian affairs who taught at Harvard. Thanks for posting it.

  8. Dennis deserves to be censured. His vulgar accusation is beyond the pale and completely out of line. I have read the post, and there is every possibility that Alank himself could be Jewish. There is nothing anti-semite to be concluded from that post alone. Rather than engaging and trying to understand, he jumps to insults and incriminations.
    Someone like Ralph can have his posts deleted for calling someone an idiot who is behaving like an idiot, but Dennis has repeatedly been allowed to accuse people of hating an entire race of people with absolutely NO basis. Which is worse, for crying out loud? To my knowledge, NONE of his hate filled posts have been removed.
    His last post should be deleted NOW, and a warning posted in its place, as has been done to others here for far less.

  9. This morning Anonymous said that she was checking out and would be making just a few comments on this blog. How many comments has she posted since then? She can’t even tell the truth about her own commitments. What’s one lie or another amongst her friends on this blog.

    1. This lying fraud Turley troll KNOWS my real name, because I posted it in a reply that has been taken down 3 times now by Darren, and KNOWS that I am not a “she.”
      Darren has allowed this lying fraud to post that lie twice now, because Darren is a disgrace and a fraud.

    2. If you think your fraudulent crap isn’t being recorded, you’re halucinating.

    3. Why don’t you tell everyone that when not hiding behind the screen name Thinkitthrough, you’re actually Darren the webmaster at this fraudulent website?

  10. This just in:

    The US has put a hold on the $6B in Qatar, due to Iran’s involvement with Hamas, which was the reason for it being held in the first place.

    Cuz u know, its still there. Sleepy Pedo Joe said it is. He’d never lie.

    1. “The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut”

      This is all the reason we need to freeze the $6B.
      Won’t happen. Any takers???

  11. Thank to Daniel for the heads up

    Biden’s Handlers gave $6 Billion to Iran to murder Israelis. Biden’s White House is the most inept and most corrupt ever in US History. All they care is about grifting and screwing everyone else. Just. Like. Hunter.

    Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks

    “The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut”

    https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-helped-plot-attack-on-israel-over-several-weeks-bbe07b25

  12. Epstein’s second rule of Democrat behavior: That which the Democrats don’t control, they will destroy.

    1. and lie…..

      Bill Clinton: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”

      1. That is actually an outstanding example of Epstein’s Third Rule of Democrat Behavior:

        When in doubt, always fall back on the the three D’s. Deny. Deflect. Dissemble.

  13. The $6B is still sitting in the bank in Qatar, and there’s no evidence that it will save Iran any money in the future that they can then use elsewhere, because Iran wasn’t spending money on humanitarian supplies.

    1. It is absurd to think that the $6b will not free up other moneys. That would mean that nothing eligible to be purchased with those funds is now being purchased by Iran.

      1. Its also absurd to argue that the ayatollah would let that f-ing money go ANYWHERE that doesnt benefit HIM. So wherever it ends up, its a $6B windfall for a murderous regime. End of story.

      2. “That would mean that nothing eligible to be purchased with those funds is now being purchased by Iran.”

        Yes. Can you name something that can be purchased with those funds that Iran is now buying?

        1. Can you name something that can be purchased with those funds that Iran is now buying?

          intelligent trolls. Submit your application and resume, and list us as personal reference. We will put in a good word for you. Your low IQ is a problem though. If the Iranians reject you, try Hamas since they take catfish

          Your sealioning is so…. sealionish

        2. Rocket parts. To replace the ones they gave hamas.

          This is simple though. You recover the rocket fragments. You determine where they were made, and you MOAB its ability to make more.

        3. They are paying terrorists and providing advanced missiles to them, Terrorism is expensive to fund. Stop making a fool out of yourself.

    2. You’ve been to iran then, i take it? And you know this guy qatar, who’s in charge of the money?
      The ayatollah is just “keeping the people happy” right? So we give them money to “keep the people happy” why??? So THEY DONT HAVE TO. Keep twisting and twirling. Its fun to watch.

    3. Well then, it should be a simple matter to have the $6B returned to the United States. Blinken and the Biden administration got it taken care of today, right?

      1. The $6B wasn’t in the US prior to going to Qatar and so cannot be “returned to the United States.” It was in South Korea. Because it came from Iranian oil sales to South Korea. Why don’t you know this?

        2. Gosh, my bad. The government said a couple weeks ago when they paid the $6bn that it was under strict control. We’ve been hearing all day that the money is still in the bank in Qatar.

          It sounds like there are some really important reasons we can’t get the $6bn back. I should have been paying closer attention. A deal is a deal, the rules based international order, you know that sort of thing.
          And the Iranians had Joe’s word as a Biden, after all.

          At the end of the day, it was a small price to pay to get our hostages back and support our Iranian ally’s humanitarian efforts.

          Better luck next time.

  14. The WSJ has a story reporting that Iran planned this with Hamas and Hezbollah, giving final approval on Monday in Beirut. They had been meeting on it since August. While the $6b deal was being finalised.

    1. NBC News (aka DNC subsidiary) is carrying Biden and Bliken’s Israeli blood soaked rags in trying to play gotcha with Former US Ambassador Nikki Haley. She was having none of it. Good for her

      Fact: Biden (like Obama) has weakened the US Brand globally but particularly to tyrannical states like Iran and Palestine

      “Do you think it was irresponsible of your rivals to level that allegation without any evidence or proof?” NBC News’ Kristen Welker asked.

      Haley said: “I actually think it was irresponsible for Secretary Blinken to say that the $6 billion doesn’t weigh in here. I mean, let’s be honest with the American people and understand that Hamas knows and Iran knows they’re moving money around as we speak, because they know 6 billion is going to be released. That’s the reality.”

      Haley then claimed that when she was the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. she went to the International Atomic Energy Agency and heard that funds the Obama administration had authorized for Iran were sent to militant groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

      “They go and spread terrorism every time they get $1,” she said. “It doesn’t go to the Iranian people. It does go to terrorist attacks, and Secretary Blinken, it’s just wrong to imply that this money is not being moved around as we speak.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/nikki-haley-calls-blinken-irresponsible-blame-iran-hamas-attack-rcna119380

      Haley is looking more presidential than Joe Biden

      NBC News is claiming to be a news organization. They’re yellow journalists ala USSR “Pravda” and Cuba’s “Granma”

    2. Well then, it should be a simple matter to have the $6B returned to the United States. Blinken and the Biden administration got it taken care of today, right?

  15. Censorship is not enough.

    Rubin, Tribe and their ilk need to be prosecuted for their hate speech.

    If our laws don’t punish their repeated, intentional, harmful misconduct, why do we even have them?

    1. The First Amendment protects most speech we disagree with and even find harmful. Conduct is distinct from speech.

      1. Isn’t it just common sense to regulate speech that equates to violence and harm? If our anti-hate laws don’t apply to Rubin and Tribe, then who do they apply to? And is this really the time to roll back all the progress we have made to combat hateful conduct, when people are literally dying?

          1. And while we’re on the topic of protecting democratic values, I have one last question.

            Do we have any more cluster bombs left to send to the middle east, or did we send them all to the Ukraine?

      1. Building 7 was hit by nothing and fell precisely into its own footprint.

        How does that happen? Controlled demolition.

  17. Jonathan: Once in awhile an anti-Semite comes out from under his rock and appears in this comment section. This time it’s “Alank” who spreads his venom: “Jews like Rubin and Tribe are the same ilk as the Bolshevik American Jews who were against the rearming of Great Britain so long as the Stalin Hitler non-aggression pact was in place. They are demented”(10/8@5:40pm). So, Daren Smith: While you were busy deleting some of the dementia by one “Anonymous” you missed the anti-Semitism right under your nose! Pretty soon this blog will resemble Musk’s “X” where other anti-Semites have found a home. Do you really want that?

    1. Dennis, who calls people racist and applauds the intimidation of people who “shrink” because they’re not committed enough. Engoron has some popsicles in his cellar for you Denny

      1. Jonathan
        Now he calls “anti-semite” for criticizing two morons and a group of Jews.

        Being loose with vulgar, inflammatory lies about a commenter is a violation of the civility rules. He is guilty of this time and again. Send him packing.

        1. This is a no-rules crapsite where honest comments are removed and vulgar, fraudulent comments are encouraged. It’s the webmaster doing it. You might as well appeal to Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny as appeal to Turley.

          1. LOL
            I propose that Dennis be forced to begin all of his mushroom enhanced delusions with “Dear Easter Bunny” instead of “Jonathan”. Maybe the Easter Bunny actually cares what he has to say.

    2. Repeatedly, armed anti-Semites from Palestine crawl out from under their rocks and appear in Israel to to massacre Jews. Today was another one of those days.

    3. Whack-a-mole arises.

      Calling a person demented is anti a whole freaking nationality/ethnicity/religion/whatever the f you call them??

      Cry us a handful. Is anti-semitism racism??? This blog would be much more improved by removing your boring, self indulgent, clownish off topic rants than those of the “anti-semite”

  18. Darren, As I think you know, I have been interested for a long time about complaints about deleted and blocked comments and banned commenters so any information you can please share about similar complaints below would be appreciated. Thanks.

    1. It would be helpful, as many have stated on here, for you to provide your real name, social security number, US Passport Number, physical address, 4 most recent payroll stubs or SSI Disability checks, and US Credit Cards with expiration dates and 3 digit codes, to verify you are not who we say you to be.

      Thanking you in advance for your cooperation in providing the aforementioned

    2. “Anonymous” posts have increased since WordPress converted the Turley Blog about three weeks ago.

      WordPress preposterously eliminated the “remember me” box.

      WordPress can’t make the Turley Blog operate rationally, effectively, and in a “user friendly” mode.

      WordPress should restore the previous format/programming.

      1. A screen name must be required.

        “Remember me” boxes must be mandatory and incorporated.

        1. Point to the Pale Green Anonymous icon and tell us where Word Press touched you inappropriately.

          Best,

          Emerald Green Anonymous

    3. Now I’m being blocked from replying to you by a message that says “429 Too Many Requests” — presumably because this website is getting posts by all kinds of “Anonymous” posters.

        1. What part of “presumably because this website is getting posts by all kinds of “Anonymous” posters.” don’t you understand? I have no control over 20 different “Anonymous” posters in this comment section.

        1. Thanks for the advice. I’ll try that, and try to remember it. It still doesn’t account for many of my comments and replies today being removed hours AFTER they were posted.

          1. No. That has happened to me as well. Sometimes its in a sweep of the vulgar bug boys posts, other times it seems random or arbitrary.

            The sweeps are often what bug is going for. He hopes that salient, thoughtful and poignant posts will get deleted along with his vulgarities.

            I have one theory, and that is that Darren will remove additional posts from a commenter if that commenter engages bug boy or others in their vulgarities. Some sort of “punishment” is my suspicion.

    4. Don’t hold your breath. Darren is clearly the one perpetrating all this intentional confusion under Turley’s name.

        1. WordPress might prevent comments from getting posted,, but WordPress does NOT come back and REMOVE comments that were posted hours earlier and got upvotes. That’s Darren doing that, unless someone has commandeered the website.

  19. STILL waiting for “free speech advocate” Turley to instruct the webmaster of this fraudulent website bearing his name to reinstate many of my comments and replies that were removed earlier today despite violating NO known rules.

    The removal of my comments/replies subsequently facilitated the lies of two of Turleyville’s most-frequent commenters, one of whom referred to me as “she” despite knowing my real name (as posted in one of my replies) and that I’m not a she, and the other of whom called me a leftist, despite knowing full well that I’m a long-time Trump supporter.

    There’s only so much dishonesty that a website can get away with before being exposed as a defamatory sham.

      1. I’m the “Anonymous” who posted the comment, as differentiated from the “Anonymous” that replied to me. YOU are a THIRD “Anonymous,” completing Turley’s webmaster’s plan to make things as convoluted and confusing as possible.

  20. Tribe took down his deranged tweet and clarified that, well sure I suppose terrorism is bad and all, but don’t forget that I’ve always condemned Israel’s occupation of the Gaza Strip (even though that ended nearly two decades ago).

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