The Vatican appears in need of a serious media consultant. Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican’s permanent observer to the UN, has issued a defense that boils down to insisting that implicated priests were not pedophiles but homosexuals who liked young boys — and besides no more than five percent of priests had sex with children . . . and Jews and Protestants do it more.
Tomasi made his confrontational statement following a meeting of the UN human rights council in Geneva, insisting only 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse. Tomasi seems to think that the faithful can rest assured that the likelihood that the priest will sexually assault your child is only 5 out of every 100 priests. Those are odds that are viewed as more than adequate in Vegas.
He also insisted that it is more likely that your child will be abused by Protestant or Jewish religious leaders — making the Catholic Church a virtual safe zone if you are going on purely the average likelihood of a rape. That could lead to a new campaign: “Go Catholic: We are Statistically Less Likely to Rape Your Child.”
Besides, Tomasi insisted “[o]f all priests involved in the abuses, 80 to 90% belong to this sexual orientation minority which is sexually engaged with adolescent boys between the ages of 11 and 17.” He insisted most of the accused priests are homosexuals who simply liked younger partners.
The angry response came after Keith Porteous Wood of the International Humanist and Ethical Union accused the Church of covering up child abuse and being in breach of several articles under the Convention on the Rights of the Child: “The many thousands of victims of abuse deserve the international community to hold the Vatican to account, something it has been unwilling to do, so far. Both states and children’s organizations must unite to pressure the Vatican to open its files, change its procedures worldwide, and report suspected abusers to civil authorities.”
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What is the “official” teaching on homosexuality in the Church Mike?
I guess you would say that a priest who is having a clandestine relationship with an older adolescent is a “consensual affair”, is that right, Mike?
Wheteher or not he is the “mainstream Mike”, his statistics don’t lie. The reason he would not be considered mainstream by some, is because he is a “Catholic heterosexual Priest” and a “good one at that”..
Father Fiore was hardly in the mainstream of Catholic thought on homosexuality and pedophilia. In fact, he viewed homosexuality with abhorrence and wrongly blamed it for virtually all instances of sexual abuse by priests. It would be tough to find a more conservative supporter of your views, billy.
The statistics I have unearthed are even more disturbing than I imagined. The truth is a sobering reality…..
In reporting “clerical abuse”, the grand taboo in U.S. culture is to “focus on homosexuality”, according to Rev. Fiore”. “The media looks upon pedophilia as being done by an aberrant few”, but society looks upon homosexuality as an alternative way of life”, explained the Rev. Fiore. “In the Catholic Church, you are seeing the overriding problem is the abuse of older children from 12-18. More than 90% of the cases, Rev. Fiore reported involve the clerical molestaion of teen-age young men”. This is “not”, true pedohilia, but blatant homosexuality, being perpetrated against adolesent males”. You draw your own conclusion..
Jeesh, what vitriole.
Its like a ping pong match.
IAC
The RCC is a muck up, amazing the try to save face, then smear that face with egg in the process.
I thought the best commentary here was the comparison about Waco and the RCC – some official sed there was definitely some child abuse going on, which they tried stop with machine-gun weilding ninjas, culminating in an inferno incinerating all the abused children. Well that is one way to stop the child abuse.
And yet, upon confirmed thousands of proven cases of sexual molestation, we see no storm troopers running over RCC churches.
Might makes right. If we don’t like you then the allegation is enuf to burn your house down. If we like you, well what’s a few thousand child molestations?
More bad news for the RCC.
“Diocese Loses Bid to Keep Abuse Records Sealed
By PAUL VITELLO
Published: October 5, 2009
The United States Supreme Court on Monday rejected a request by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Bridgeport to delay the court-ordered release of thousands of legal documents from lawsuits filed against priests accused of child sex abuse.
The decision leaves few options for the diocese after a seven-year tug-of-war with four newspapers, including The New York Times, over the release of more than 12,000 pages of depositions and church records.”
Read the rest of the article at : http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/nyregion/06abuse.html?_r=1&hp
I don’t suspect I will get one. Why? You can’t. You are basically ignorant of this dynamic within the Church and the only real impressions you have formulated come from the incredibly “vapid” posts that buddhatroll and his ilk continue to provide for you. I suggest you think outside the box. It won’t be difficult “really”, the truth is probably right underneath your nose..
Thats’ great Federal FFLEO, you can’t, or won’t answer the question because you don’t know how. You sound clever, really, your rhetoric is “top drawer” and “grammar”, priceless! Still, I would like an answer to the question I have framed for you. You are a clever, erudite blogger . Truly you are a sharp man, with a “sterling grasp of the kings good english” Now I would like you to answer the question senor. I suggest you at least try!
Please.
That’s Limbaugh Cheese that you smelled.
The phrase is *Bated* Breath.
Baited breath is what *your* mouth smells like when you have just et the catfish bait of night crawler worms and rancid Limburger cheese instead of baiting the hook with said items…
I suggest holding your breath….
I will be waiting with baited breath…….
Federal FFLEO. Vulgarisms?. Your friend AY uses more profanity than a sailor from San Pedro! Spare me, with your faux shock, that in an earlier post I used some profanity, yeah I did, you ticked me off! I despise duplicity almost as bad as a shameless suck-up! Get my drift? If I offended you I apologize, I have also apologized to JT for the use of some profanity. I blew it man, we all spin out of our center and make mistakes! In this particular post I used zero, repeat zero profanity. What pray tell was vulgar in my posts? If they had been they would have been deleted. I think you don’t like the content because I cut through the ambiguity and redundant smoke-screen counselor buddhatroll uses when his argument is shot to pieces! Why don’t you enlighten me Federal FFLEO, and explain to me and everyone what the problem in the Church has been. We have already established the cover-up, the crimnial activity, the use of “paying off” the victims. Everyone can read a paper and listen to the news. Now, how do you think these rampant problems of sexual misconduct and pedophilia can be ameliorated from within its’ ranks? You have the floor……
I’ve washed my hands of this incarnation. And while I admire your attempt at reformation there FFLEO, based on past performance you’re not likely to get it from this one. That is why when he shows up, I generally expose him and then let him rot on the vine. He’ll tire of the nick being ignored and ridiculed eventually and go sulk. Since he’s now tried sublimation and infiltration before showing his true colors, I suspect he’ll try that tactic a few more times too. He’s expanding his repertoire like all sociopaths do when they meet with resistance. He is capable of learning as long as that learning feeds his twisted self-aggrandizing mental problem. But actual change is much harder to come by without medical intervention.
Mike,
I hesitated to say anything because I most often learn from your (and Buddha’s) exchanges; however, I hate to see this site cluttered with the likes of billy’s vulgarisms. If the ‘kid’ would just stop his foulness then I would just skip over his part and read your relies.
billy, can you watch your foul mouth and argue from conviction and knowledge rather than from repugnancy?
“can spell “two” though Mike.”
Yes you can, thinking intelligently not so much.
FFLEO,
You are absolutely correct. From now on I’ll try to follow your advice.
Buddha & Mike Spindell,
billy claims to be a 42-year-old well-educated psychologist who has traveled the world. Would such a person write what I copied below from another post?
His mood swings and vulgar vocabularies are viler and more repugnant than the foul breezes emanating from a megalopolis’ sewer-settling ponds churning in the hot, humid summer midday’s sun.
When you ‘debate’ billy, he considers himself an equal to you both; we all know that is not the case.
Please strongly consider ignoring billy.
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billy (wrote)
1, September 18, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Federal LEO, man you are one sick disordered puppy! You sit there and mock, yes mock the death of this fourteen year old girl, who has a heartbroken family, for all time, and all you can do is make some STUPID, unintelligent statement implying I am a racist, because this cold-blooded murderer is on death row, and I believe needs to die, the sooner the better. He has spent way to long watching ESPN and lifting weights and eating three hot meals a day, to go on much longer. If he were a white man who killed this girl you wouldn’t give a damn you self serving piece of shit! You only open your loud mouth because he is black and you wanna score some fuckin’ points. Your parents must be so proud, I don’t know who is worse, Mr. Broome the rapist/ murderer, or the likes of you- who is all broken up over his dreadful “holiday” in prison. Eat shit and live LEO…
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shhhhh Elaine.
Don’t say “homophones”. He’ll think you want him to call homosexuals or that the phone company wants him to turn gay.
billy,
The teacher in me just has to step in here. If you’re going to call out people for misspelling words, you had better make sure that you aren’t guilty of the same thing.
You wrote: “They are celibate by choice and still have know interest in underage children.”
That “know” above should have been “no.”
Those homophones are killers!