The Vatican appears in need of a serious media consultant. Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican’s permanent observer to the UN, has issued a defense that boils down to insisting that implicated priests were not pedophiles but homosexuals who liked young boys — and besides no more than five percent of priests had sex with children . . . and Jews and Protestants do it more.
Tomasi made his confrontational statement following a meeting of the UN human rights council in Geneva, insisting only 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse. Tomasi seems to think that the faithful can rest assured that the likelihood that the priest will sexually assault your child is only 5 out of every 100 priests. Those are odds that are viewed as more than adequate in Vegas.
He also insisted that it is more likely that your child will be abused by Protestant or Jewish religious leaders — making the Catholic Church a virtual safe zone if you are going on purely the average likelihood of a rape. That could lead to a new campaign: “Go Catholic: We are Statistically Less Likely to Rape Your Child.”
Besides, Tomasi insisted “[o]f all priests involved in the abuses, 80 to 90% belong to this sexual orientation minority which is sexually engaged with adolescent boys between the ages of 11 and 17.” He insisted most of the accused priests are homosexuals who simply liked younger partners.
The angry response came after Keith Porteous Wood of the International Humanist and Ethical Union accused the Church of covering up child abuse and being in breach of several articles under the Convention on the Rights of the Child: “The many thousands of victims of abuse deserve the international community to hold the Vatican to account, something it has been unwilling to do, so far. Both states and children’s organizations must unite to pressure the Vatican to open its files, change its procedures worldwide, and report suspected abusers to civil authorities.”
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I can spell “two” though Mike..
Now I’m done playing with this incarnation. You’ve been discredited and exposed. My job is complete until you next idiotic incarnation.
“My proposal is to discontinue ordaining active homosexual priests who are activley breaking their vows with adults and commmitting the crime of “pedophilia”.”
Wayne/Billy,
Great proposal. Take it up with your bishop or even the Pope to get it done. As Buddha has stated though, this is a Law Site and none of us are using it to reform religious institutions like the RCC, that is for the believers, we are interested in punishment for the laws broken. Capice?
As for which institution of higher learning you attended and were presumably degreed from, that is irrelevent as an indicator of your intelligence. I reiterate that GW Bush has degrees from Yale and Harvard and can’t string to independent thoughts together.
I didn’t say I didn’t copy material nor did I claim BASIC DEFINITIONS as original work, you simpleton.
You can try to paint it that way, but it’s false.
Seriously,
http://dmh.lacounty.gov/
They can help and, unlike me or you, they might actually care if you get better.
While we’re on the subject of how “bright” you are, “Mr. T-Rex”. It is apparent to everyone on this blog, save yourself that you are seriously in bondaage to one of the personalities you illustrated in one of your earlier posts(which you plagiarized from the net). The personality disorder you manifest in a chronic fashion is “narcissistic personality disorder”.
Erudite? No, I don’t have to try to sound erudite because I am. And those mental health definitions provided were not provided as direct evidence of your strategy, merely as an accurate illustration of your tactics over time. That you use the tactics of a crazy person, well, quod erat demonstratum. Res ipsa loquitur.
If people come to the conclusion you’re insane, they do so based solely upon your actions.
Now take your little lurker psychosis and run along since you’ve obviously been perched at your keyboard all night waiting to pounce. But by all means, keep acting like a stalker. I’ll eventually call the FBI if and when I get tired of it.
“your logic is disordered Mike.”
Billy,
I really hope that you aren’t in a field directly supplying mental health services as you’ve implied, because I’m afraid you are displaying dirordered thinking and certainly an inability to respond with anything other than diatribe. You have slipped out of character and returned more and more to your Wayne personna. I really do believe that people can redeem themselves, but so far you are falling short of the mark.
I also love the way you “plagiarize” off the net’ buddhatroll. You and AY are consistently deceptice, which only adds to the obvious weakness in your “arguments”. Keep using those search engines, they are alotta fun..
Your attempt at sounding “erudite” defining mental health and personality disorders only manifests the “irrelevancy” and tragedy of your argument. Please stop the “crazymaking” and go find easier pickins’ with somebody who will discuss “philosophers” with you. Most of them had minds “for the most part” that were full of mildew much like your argument. Good luck trollbait, happy hunting..
mespo,
No, but we got home late and I couldn’t get to sleep. Sometimes writing a bit helps me sleep even if it’s just troll bashing. A purely selfish motive on my part.
Buddha:
I appreciate your pearl casting, but is it really worth it?
rofl
That word. Victory. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Now you and your imaginary hot wife enjoy the hot pockets your mom made while watching the Get Smart marathon. Because I’m going to give you some other words that are more accurate of your performance than “victory”.
Here are some terms for you and what you do that are accurate based on past performance:
Confabulation
The constant and unnecessary fabrication of information or events to fill in gaps in the patient’s memory, biography or knowledge, or to substitute for unacceptable reality. Common in the Cluster B personality disorders (narcissistic, histrionic, borderline, and antisocial) and in organic memory impairment or the amnestic syndrome (amnesia).
Delusion
A belief, idea, or conviction firmly held despite abundant information to the contrary. The partial or complete loss of reality test is the first indication of a psychotic state or episode. Beliefs, ideas, or convictions shared by other people, members of the same collective, are not, strictly speaking, delusions, although they may be hallmarks of shared psychosis. There are many types of delusions:
I. Paranoid
The belief that one is being controlled or persecuted by stealth powers and conspiracies.
2. Grandiose-magical
The conviction that one is important, omnipotent, possessed of occult powers, or a historic figure.
3. Referential (ideas of reference)
The belief that external, objective events carry hidden or coded messages or that one is the subject of discussion, derision, or opprobrium, even by total strangers.
Dereistic Thinking
Inability to incorporate reality-based facts and logical inference into one’s thinking. Fantasy-based thoughts.
Obsession
Recurring and intrusive images, thoughts, ideas, or wishes that dominate and exclude other cognitions. The patient often finds the contents of his obsessions unacceptable or even repulsive
Paranoia
Psychotic grandiose and persecutory delusions. Paranoids are characterized by a paranoid style: they are rigid, sullen, suspicious, hypervigilant, hypersensitive, envious, guarded, resentful, humorless, and litigious. Paranoids often suffer from paranoid ideation – they believe (though not firmly) that they are being stalked or followed, plotted against, or maliciously slandered. They constantly gather information to prove their “case” that they are the objects of conspiracies against them. Paranoia is not the same as Paranoid Schizophrenia, which is a subtype of schizophrenia.
Paranoid Personality Disorder
Perseveration
Repeating the same gesture, behavior, concept, idea, phrase, or word in speech. Common in schizophrenia, organic mental disorders, and psychotic disorders.
Phobia
Dread of a particular object or situation, acknowledged by the patient to be irrational or excessive. Leads to all-pervasive avoidance behavior (attempts to avoid the feared object or situation). A persistent, unfounded, and irrational fear or dread of one or more classes of objects, activities, situations, or locations (the phobic stimuli) and the resulting overwhelming and compulsive desire to avoid them. See: Anxiety.
Poverty of Content (of Speech)
Persistently vague, overly abstract or concrete, repetitive, or stereotyped speech.
Pressure of Speech
Rapid, condensed, unstoppable and “driven” speech. The patient dominates the conversation, speaks loudly and emphatically, ignores attempted interruptions, and doesn’t care if anyone is listening or responding to him or her. Seen in manic states, psychotic or organic mental disorders, and conditions associated with stress.
Tangentiality
Inability or unwillingness to focus on an idea, issue, question, or theme of conversation. The patient “takes off on a tangent” and hops from one topic to another in accordance with his own coherent inner agenda, frequently changing subjects, and ignoring any attempts to restore “discipline” to the communication. Often co-occurs with speech derailment. As distinct from loosening of associations, tangential thinking and speech are coherent and logical but they seek to evade the issue, problem, question, or theme raised by the other interlocutor.
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That’s precisely your entire M.O. if you combine it outbursts of anger and note the phobia is severe homophobia, wayne.
And that is that.
Thats what a UC education gets get you ‘troll’, victories against “lightweights” like you. Carmelita and I are both howling at your stupidity! She also is a UC grad ..
“them” being pedophiles of course.
You’ve cleared up that you’re
1) a homophobic bigot and
2) a defender of a criminal enterprise that protects them.
3) A sore loser.
4) A mental midget incapable of winning an argument.
Did I make myself clear? Or do you want to try again to come to KC and kick my ass? You’re down to nothing but insults, so the threats come next, don’t they, big boy? I can tell you’re pissed off to foaming at the mouth just by how you are writing that apologist crap you just posted.
YOU LOST.
Now follow your pattern and go sulk for awhile until you can figure out another way to spray your Papist anti-gay bigotry and not get slapped down for it like you always do, you hateful little closet case.
Buh bye buddhapest…
Buddha, you are toast, deal….
Buddhatroll, we agree the Church has performed poorly and its’ bishops need to be held accountable.. How do we rectify the problem? Trollbait, guess what? You keep discussing the same material over and over “ad nauseum”. We agree the Church has fouled itself. I still love my Church and my faith. The Church and it’ teachings are good, the rotten , negligent priests and bishops who perpetuated the cover-up are rotten eggs and the criminal homosexual priests who committed these acts of pedophilia with underage boys shouls be laicized and then incarecerated. We agree! Now, how does the problem get resolved? My proposal is to discontinue ordaining active homosexual priests who are activley breaking their vows with adults and commmitting the crime of “pedophilia”. The Church can begin the road to recovery by admitting its’ wrong doing, giving remuneration to the victims of clergy abuse and discontinuing the ordination of HOMOSEXUAL men who have a PROCLIVITY to MOLEST underage BOYS because they NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ORDAINED IN THE FIRST PLACE! Have I cleared up any ambiguity “counselortroll”?
wayne,
I HAVE defeated you. Many here have. You haven’t won once. In almost two years.
But you keep up that sad little delusion all you want.
I wonder though. Since you’re so defective that you think a law blog is the appropriate place to pimp the Pope (and I’ve seen you do it on threads that have NOTHING to do with the RCC), do you try to do other things that are as inappropriate? Like taking your car to the doctor for a tune up or defecating in the bread aisle at the grocery store?
No wayne. You haven’t defeated anyone but yourself.
You’re just not smart enough to realize it.
The RCC is a criminal organization involved in the systematic aiding and abetting of pedophiles in their employee escape justice so they can avoid the civil liability.
What you think of me or anyone else does not change this. That you think you’ve won when you’ve been beaten like a red-headed step child repeatedly by multiple people does not change this. It’s sad, pathetic and mentally deficient, but it does not change the fact you are promoting a criminal enterprise.
Against children.
You cannot change that you are defending an organization that is protecting the lowest slot on the prison food chain: pedophiles. And that your attempted weapon of choice is bigotry.
That tells everyone reading this blog exactly what kind of person you are.
Insane and/or evil.
And now? I think you have become boring. Come back with another incarnation, sport. This one is done.
You have know argument buddhatroll. Save the fact you keep trying to redundantly articulate the fact that the Church has payed out “millions of dollars to victims of criminal priests”. Every “citizen” who reads the papers and turns on the television knows this! You are a joke, senor. My contention is “fact”, the Church has an admitted “problem”, it is painfully obvious to all but “you and your fellow deluded bloggers” who exist on a plane of serious denial. You argument is beyond ludicrous. The only thing consistently more amusing is your tragic display of self validation and referring to yourself in the “third” person, which is worth the price of admission..