Meet Michael Voris who believes that the country needs a dictator who is “benevolent” and most importantly a Catholic. Voris advocates Catholic rule for the nation in this video, which surprisingly does not appear to be a joke.
Voris’s call for a “benevolent dictatorship” of a Catholic ruler is part of a video that has gone viral on the Internet. He is the founder of St. Michael’s Media and the star of a series on “The One True Faith.” He is described as a former seminarian and CBS anchor, who has won multiple Emmys for his work in broadcast news production.
Voris graduated from Notre Dame in 1983 with a degree in Communications and concentrated studies in history and politics. Equally impressive is his theological education. He not only trained as a young man in theology at the doctrinally-sound St. Joseph’s Seminary in New York, but in April of 2009, he received his Sacred Theology Baccalaureate (STB) from Sacred Heart Major Seminary/Angelicum in Rome – Magna Cum Laude.
At some point, he appears to have developed a taste for dictatorship and theocratic government.
bammbamm’s posts have a certain recognizable cadence …
The Church of Constantine keeps protesting its legitimacy with the same old drumbeat ….
bammbamm:
“Now, what you also fail to recognize is that the US has always had a religion. The religion was Protestantism, an innumerable mish-mosh of half creeds that individuals pulled out of their Bible reading. It was internalized in all political thought.”
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Those Maryland colonists would be surprised at that as would be Jefferson and Madison, who wrote our charter documents, and saw religion (not the high power, mind you) for the control mechanism it became. Religion is fine so long as you keep it in the ephemeral world of belief. Put in to practice and we get guys like you accusing others of every imaginable non-sequitur because some First Century Book quote can be interpreted to mean anything. I used to think religious wars were entirely evil, irrationalists like you give me pause in that belief.
Oooo. Proverbs 26:5. Argument by Bible quotes. Yeah, that’s convincing. You’ll never win an argument with that, Mr. I Don’t Understand the Constitution.
The bottom line is your religion isn’t special and deserves to have no more say over how ANYONE lives their lives under the color of governmental authority. If you’re upset your religion of choice has become irrelevant, you should take it up with the pedophile protecting leaders of the RCC and the hundreds of years of other Church sponsored abuses like the Crusades, the Inquisition and their tacit endorsement of Hitler.
@Buddha Is Laughing – Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Oh, I read English just fine, Papist apologist.
You, on the other hand, apparently don’t understand the phrase “shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” also means that religion is meant to have no input into our politics and our legal system (except to avail themselves to courts for civil and criminal matters).
You stick to your “guns”.
It is your right to be wrong about the Constitution and the nature of secularism as you like.
Foolish, but still your right.
Just like it’s your right to call me an atheist when you clearly have no idea what my philosophical underpinnings are while yours are clear from your actions, Papist.
And just like it’s your right to act the fool, it’s my right to point it out to others not suffering from your delusions of Catholic persecution.
Have a nice day.
@Buddha Is Laughing – the problem with the atheists is that they can’t read simple English. “Congress shall make no law..” Do you comprehend that? Congress will not interfere. It’s not their job. They have nothing to say about religion. Hands off. It’s very very simple. They will not stop religion; and they certainly won’t institute one.
Now, what you also fail to recognize is that the US has always had a religion. The religion was Protestantism, an innumerable mish-mosh of half creeds that individuals pulled out of their Bible reading. It was internalized in all political thought. No, it’s not the case today, because those descendants who were lucky enough not to be birth controlled out of existence have slid into atheism – the ultimate destination of all non-Catholic Christians.
You can’t even see that you titled the first amendment “Freedom of Religion”, and interpret it to mean freedom from religion.
I stick to my guns. Turley’s message is clear – shoot Voris.
bammbamm:
“Well what do we do with the Taliban? We shoot them. So the message from Turley is clear ….”
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Likely Voris became a theocrat as a child where obsequiousness to Vatican authority was taught as one of the
fourfive cardinal virtues. Voris is a religious nut who turns provocativeness into a profit. Personally, I think Voris is like a turkey. AHHH, what do we do with turkeys?bammbamm,
Another thing that comes to mind is “inserting premises into other people’s statements that aren’t really there”.
No where does the Prof call for anyone’s death. He does point out the very real problem religious zealots of any persuasion present to secular Constitutional legalism by acting like dictators and theocrats with a divine mandate.
If you don’t like that Vorbis was picked out as an example?
That’s your problem.
But accusing the Prof of calling for his death is simply 1) wrong as it didn’t happen and 2) looks like zealous Opus Dei/RCC apologist crap.
There are specific safeguards in the Constitution to prevent ANY religion from holding the reins of power in this country.
That would include the Catholics and any fundie Islamic terrorist organization you’d care to name.
“Amendment 1 – Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. (Ratified 12/15/1791.)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
And if the Papists don’t like it? Tough shit.
Another thing that comes to mind; Here we have Jonathan Turley, the fastidious legal perfectionist, who just tosses off a comment about Voris being likened to the Taliban. Well what do we do with the Taliban? We shoot them. So the message from Turley is clear; Voris ought to be shot. Turley’s anti-Catholicism is clear when one watches his encounters with Pat Buchanan – Turley loses it completely. Mr intellectual fastidious preppie calm and collected Jonathan Turley has some inner demons that need exorcising.
Well, no heaven that excludes dogs is worthy of the name, and yours does.
@lovable liberal – This is how I talk to atheists: ruff-ruff, oink oink, meow, gobble gobble, ribbit ribbit……
In other words, you’re at a loss to rebut.
Those claims of yours are not pearls. They’re mostly ad hominem attacks. Swinish ones.
@lovable liberal – Well, I certainly didn’t expect to convert the world with my comments. But yours is so full of historical inaccuracies, bias and the same old atheist claptrap, I can respond only by quoting a passage from the New Testament. “Cast not thy pearls to swine.”
“these fools can’t agree on what’s right and what’s wrong.”
The reason we have a secular government is to keep doctrinaire religious theocrats from using the power of government to suppress everyone who doesn’t match their rigid orthodoxy. The reason that’s evil, besides all the evils various sects have done over the millennia, is that it leads inevitably to sectarian civil war.
The Founders learned this lesson from the Christian wars of Europe. Now Voris and his defenders here want to return to the Church-dominated dark ages. The so-called benevolent monarchy on which Voris is basing his political wet dream (sin!) was by no means benevolent. Despite its claims to god’s authority on earth, it was a thoroughly corrupt institution.
So, no, you’re not putting ayatollah Benedict in charge. And I’m not afraid of your puny, mythical lake of fire.
I don’t see anything illogical here. Voris says that we prefer democracy because it’s better to put your trust in everyone, than in one. I don’t understand the reasoning, but there it is. Everyone can be trusted; but no one can be trusted. You explain it. He’s merely saying, that it’s better to cede authority to one good man, than letting good and evil hammer it out day after day. That in itself, is very logical. The problem with Turley (who represented plaintiffs from Area 51) and the other posters, is that these fools can’t agree on what’s right and what’s wrong. They can’t even get out of the batter’s box on good and evil. And the thought that someone might take away their porno or condoms sends them into conniptions.
Oh noez someone pointed out an obvious flaw in democracy, stop the fucking presses.
Elaine M.,
Sorry … didn’t see the post till now
I think the rapture and second coming already happened and we are what’s left because we won …
Seriously, rapture believers will meet Christ in the air(that is the rapture part) and then will return with Christ for the Second Coming to defeat the Antichrist, destroy evil, and establish His millennial kingdom. It’s nonsense similar to the 72 virgins awaiting suicide bombers, or eclipses signaling god’s displeasure, or thunder really being god bowling, or any other number of ignorant beliefs concocted by conniving holy men and women in order to line their pockets with the profits of others’ labors so that they may maintain a lifestyle that is unearned and unwarranted.
Voris is right……
“Hows that workin out for ya people?”
The real question is hows that workin’ out for you? You sound a little stressed. Expectations are the mother of suffering. Perhaps if you quit projecting your religious expectations on to others and instead lived your life by your dictates instead of trying to interfere with the free will of others to choose their own paths, you might be a happier person. Your religious based judgment system has led you to agree in essence with the existential philosopher Sarte who said, “Hell is other people.” This is not how you’ll find the God described in the Bible I read which says, “The kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21).
Because for your ‘us’ to exist implies you are referring to a ‘them’ when the reality is there is only “We”. If God exists in all things, then all is one. And the corollary to “Hell is other people” would by necessity be that “Heaven is other people” too. Even if they walk a different path than the one you choose. Recall the words of Romans 2:10-11 “but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God.”
Relax. It’s good for you.
Blouise,
Do you think “the rapture” is imminent?