This week the public continued to get signals from our leaders that we may be in for yet another war. This time it would be Iran. In an interview this week, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) uttered the words that many peace advocates fear: “regime change.” In response to public moves by Israel to attack Iran “before the U.S. elections,” Lieberman took to the air to assure the public that “we” can defeat Iran and “hope and pray” for a regime change. Sounds tragically familiar.
Many of us have been watching with rising concern the moves toward a war with Iran, including the reported desire of the Netanyahu government to secure the approval of a leading Rabbi. There seems a concerted effort to prepare Americans for such a war. Israel is counting on the current presidential campaign to dampen down opposition to its launching an attack and is clearly confident that we will eventually hand over the billions that it will want to replace weapons and help pay for the war. More importantly, the chances that we could get pulled into the war are high since an Israeli attack could easily provoke Iran into attacking U.S. personnel or assets.
Lieberman told Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty this week that he thinks the chances are “high” that there will be a war with Iran and stressed “I think we have the capability either to eliminate the Iranian nuclear weapons program or to disable it in a way that it will be delayed for enough years that we may hope and pray that there will be a regime change and that there will be a more democratic and friendly regime.”
Of course, Lieberman can be suggesting that we could attack Iran and not call it a “war” — a tactic used by the Obama Administration in the Libyan war.
Of course, the decision for the war will not be made by Americans and the American people will once again be given a fait accompli that we must support our allies and our own troops now that a war has started. Thus, as Camden is now moving to eliminate its police force for lack of money, we will likely be sending billions again to another war abroad with U.S. troops likely to follow.
Source: Thinkprogress
The only thing Joe Lieberman and his pal John McCain like better than a good war is a good bowel movement.
You can’t have your war, Ralphie…….You’ll shoot your eye out!
When there is dirty work to do, Lieberman to the rescue, just as with the public option. What bit of toxic mold will take his place?
That is a snippet of “The War Prayer” by Mark Twain. He knew it would be explosive at the time so it was not published until after his death. It is not popular for obvious reasons, truth this unvarnished rarely is.
Ralph – As long as your head is in there you should check yourself for polyps
The only thing Holy about Holy wars are the holes in dead people.
The only capital thing about capitalistic wars is the capital in the pockets of war mongers and profiteers, built on the deaths of good misguided people.
Mark Twain has a comment about war.
http://youtu.be/sVYIRbmxHpc
Ralph–“No genuine LIbertarian would support a Pro-Islam, Pro-Government Control, Pro-Tyranny, Anti-LIberty, and Anti-Freedom government like Iran that seeks to obtain nuclear weapons.”
And no genuine Libertarian would support and interventionist foreign policy that seeks to involve the US in the overthrow of tyrannical regimes as that is a recipe for constant warfare. And besides, some of those tyrannical regimes such as Saudi Arabia are our best friends and buy a lot of hi-tech military gadgets from US corporations.
Having lived less than 100 miles from Iran and visited Israel, the United States ought to recognize the natural lines that discern the political animosities. Iranians are Persians, and the Arabs have little time for them. Saudi Arabia certainly has a vested interest in the stability of Iran because Iran does pose a direct military threat to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the remainder of the Arab states in the Gulf region–as well as the oil routes out of the Persian Gulf. The Arabs also know that the Israelis will not stand idly by as they did with the Iraqi nuclear site they bombed many years ago–by overflying those Arab states. It would seem that if Iran is that big of a threat to the region and to the world, any effort to confront Iran would be by those closest to the problem. (It is also worth noting that Iran is building relations with the governments of Afghanistan and Iraq.) So, if there is a need for U.S. involvement in the Middle East because of Iran/Israel, it must be after the Saudis and the Israelis have expended all the U.S. armanments through Foreign Military Sales (as well as French and German weapon systems.)
“Leftist” seems to be such a derisive word to some. The opposite of leftist would be conservative and if I look up the successes of conservatism, they would fall like this. It was conservatives who were content with King George and didn’t want to revolt. It was conservatives who liked the idea that only the landed gentry–male landed gentry would have voting rights. It was the conservatives who fought against emancipation. It was conservatives who fought child labor laws, workplace safety laws, and collective bargaining. It was conservatives who fought the Civil Rights Acts. It was conservatives who fought Social Security. Hmmm, I rather like being called a leftist if that is the contrast I am faced with–Thank you!! If some would like to take it to the next higher level and use the word “socialist,” I would point out that those “socialist” nations of Europe that were involved in the Olympics–Great Britain being the most notable player–seemed quite pleasant places, and the people did not seem enslaved.
Some seem to have sipped the neo-con kool aid and think the United States is militarily inferior or weak. When I consider that the most recent defense budget puts the United States as the number 1 for spending on defense, it means that the United States spends as much as the next 17 nations combined. And, there are some who are really going to balk at this…the residual effects of Iraq and Afghanistan (PTSD, TBIs, disfigurement and disabilities) are yet to be felt. These are the men and women who will have no future except what the VA and other government programs will provide them. And to put a different face on the food stamps argument, the fastest growing population of recipients are disabled veterans and even some active duty service members…”Support the Troops!” buy a yellow ribbon!!!!!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/opinion/brooks-the-real-romney.html?_r=1&smid=fb-share
Sen. Lieberman explained his support of John McCain at the 2008 Republican National Convention with the phrase “country matters more than party.” I have become increasingly convinced that the “country” he was referring to in that speech was Israel. If Mr. Netanyahu does indeed plan a military strike against Iran in advance of the upcoming presidential election, it will because he properly regards right-wing Christians in this country as useful idiots who will provide cover against any objections from the Obama administration. As far as I am concerned, however, should Israel pursue such a cynical, lame-brained strategy, we should tell it that it is on its own. Ralph Adamo can organize his own brigade and join the Israeli army. (Just don’t expect any of the Romney sons to sign up.)
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earlier someone here called me ‘angry’ (which I am…) but ya’ll have cornered the market on mean!