Given the story today about the poaching of elephants, this video on Reddit caught my eye. It part of a show called Under Wild Skies What is this shit? For some reason, NBC Sports Network has been airing an NRA-sponsored hunting show called Under Wild Skies, which apparently airs on NBC. This video shows a lobbyist named Tony Makris shooting an elephant in the face. I am surprised to see NBC airing the scene. It shows that, while one cannot swear on television or show certain types of intimate scenes, you can still shoot a elephant in the face. [WARNING The video contains graphic and disturbing images]
I am also confused why this is so impressive. The elephant is standing there and you shoot it at close quarters in the face with a powerful weapon. The elephant however does not die after two shots but lingers in pain before it is finally put down. The episode ends with celebration with what appears to be champagne.
The program identifies Makris as a lobbyist. Some stories identify him as an NRA lobbyist. Other stories describe the show as “sponsored by the NRA.
The episode is filmed in the Botswana wilderness where he is led to around 20 feet from an elephant. While the number of elephants continue to fall in the country, a ban on trophy hunting will not kick in until 2014. That leaves people like Makris rushing to kill elephants while they still can.
Darren:
have you ever eaten Bison? How do you think it gets to your table? It is herded into a pen, smacked in the head, hung up by its back legs, its throat is slit and then it is gutted and skinned.
I saw a picture one time on the wall of a gunshop I go into occasionally. It displayed a man all decked out in the gear and kneeling down to a decent sized Bison he bagged. Holding his rifle and a smile.
Then in the background, there were other Bison grazing not even fifty or so feet away and farther away you could see a white fence that gave the me the impression these Bison were corraled.
Shooting that Bison was about as sporting as hopping into a feed lot and shooting a cow. And then he thinks he’s going to have bragging rights for being Mr. Big Game Hunter. Doesn’t sit well with me. You have to respect an animal that is cunning and elusive; difficult to catch and if he evades you he is to be let go because he is worthy. But just walking up and killing a grazing semi-domesticated animal under the auspices of “hunting” it’s dishonourable and cowardly.
Bron, the meatpackers don’t play like they did some brave thing or accomplished some “hunting”. That is the difference. I agree with Darren that this poseur is disgusting.
Geez, all those scurrilous remarks I made about the nation and the second amendment, were for naught.
I can’t even get arrested in this town.
Oky1,
I love to read history, but I don’t do InfoWars, sorry.
I can manufacture my own paranoid delusions and revisionist history..
“It may still exist with some so called sportsmen, but I have not run into any of them.”
I have, Randy.
Several of them, in fact.
And they usually hunt things that are “dangerous” and/or rare but not particularly edible.
Gene H You move in more rarified circles than I do since I just associate with deer hunters, goose hunters who are out to put meat in the freezer. So far I haven’t run into big game hunters on the leases.
Do deer have as good a rack as say, Jayne Mansfield. I wonder if her trophy head is on some wall?
Big game, little men.
Oky1
I’ll see your deer with a crossing sign…
… Obviously that deer didn’t study well enough!
Last note here:
I noticed that the NRA and NBC endorse Ivory Poaching.
At just 0:25 seconds into the clip. “The 577 was made to shoot ivory.”
POACHERS
Up next: White Rhino hunting?
Gene H.
1, September 25, 2013 at 12:22 pm
What you said!!!
p.s.
It takes big balls to face off with a bunny…
OS:
I have read similar stories about World War II veterans.
One man quit hunting because he had shot a goose but didnt kill it, he said the goose sat there waiting to die, just like some of his friends, not complaining, not crying, just waiting. That was it for him.
I like to fish because you can catch them again.
I wonder why someone doesnt do a tranquilizer hunt and incorporate science into it. Take your picture with your prey, weigh it, measure it, and check its vitals and then watch it stagger off. It would give new meaning to bagged and tagged.
It would be like ET and you could even insert a tracking device.
I have interviewed several snipers, mostly Marines, who were deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. To a man, they were big on deer hunting in the mountains, and never missed a deer season before they were deployed. Now they are home, most of them no longer hunt at all.
I am not surprised.
While I support the 2nd Amendment and the NRA in some regards, this is repulsive.
Bron,
As I said earlier, if you eat what you kill, that’s an exception. It’s not really “trophy hunting” even if you do get a trophy out of it. Analogous to getting a really good rack off a deer you eat versus killing a deer just for the rack.
Gene H I know of no hunters who simply kill game and just take the rack. Even if they do not eat it personally, they usually give the meat to others and none of it goes to waste. The bad old days of killing thousands of game birds, and animals for sport has long passed. It may still exist with some so called sportsmen, but I have not run into any of them.
There are some things I do not want in my memory bank … not going to watch the video.
Trophy hunting is bizarre. And I think the people who do it, and believe that it makes them special are also bizarre, and mental to boot. Serious ego issues. In a really bad way.
I think he eats most of what he kills.
I have had mountain lion and it is pretty good.
Bron, I am glad to hear that you had mountain lion and not the other way around. We had lots of deer coming into town in Yreka, CA during the drought, and lots of folks thought it was so cute to have deer running around the streets. I had a lot different take, since most people forgot what deer are first and foremost, cougar food. They also forgot that kids, dogs, and slow people are a lot easier to catch and eat than deer.
That is also why I am in favor of restoring cougar hunting in CA.
It is good that NBC showed this dickhead doing his thing.
Good for him.
Did he eat them?
No?
I’ll give him points for skill, but modern bows are just as lethal as guns, only harder to use. Get back to me when he uses a spear. Until then, he’s still just some jackass who thinks killing for sport in an unfair contest (albeit slightly less unfair than using a firearm) makes him a man.
Gene H:
One of the guys I know has hunted big cats, including lions, with a bow and arrow.
Bob K,
I agree with some of what you wrote, like on the militia vs standing army.
That piece I posted on this thread at the time stamp below I believe is well worth everyone’s time viewing it.
Tosh Plumlee is known from his past testimony in front of the congressional Church hearings.
He seems to have new info & details of how this country came to be in such a rotten state it’s in today.
Oky1 1, September 25, 2013 at 11:49 am