
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has released new data on global warming that, again, the data supports the over-whelming view of scientists that climate change is a dire reality. The world has experienced record-breaking hot weather every month in 2015 and the year is all but guaranteed to be the hottest on record.
According to NOAA, August was the warmest August ever recorded — with records going back to 1880. It was 1.58F above the 20th century average. Indeed, every month this year has been the hottest on record.
On its blog, NOAA stated “We estimate a 97% probability that 2015 will become the warmest year on record.”
The issue of global warming came up during the last Republican presidential debate.
Source: Guardian
Mr Wizard, You were one of the first guests David Letterman ever had on his show. Good comment.
Regarding the govt. subsidizing business. That is corporate welfare. But, the duopoly loves corporate welfare. When Republicans are in control of the oligarchy, their favorite industries get to feed off the public trough and get billions of hard working taxpayers dollars. When Democrats are controlling the purse strings, their favorite corporations get the hard earned tax paid by maids who clean motel rooms and fast food workers making minimum wages. But you see, we libertarians don’t want ANY corporate welfare. I love sports, particularly baseball. But, I do not one penny of taxpayers hard earned money going to building ballparks. If my home team says “We will have to move is you don’t build us a new ballpark.” My reply is, “Don’t let the door hit ya’ where the Good Lord split ya’!” That’s called integrity.
Here you go Paulhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
PCS,
“Climatologist” is like “Apparatchik.” It’s politically generated. Remember when Americans used to criticize the communist purges, pogroms, neighbors as informants to the government, the Cultural Revolution, the government issued “news” from Pravda and Izvestia, etc.?
How did this get into America?
Jeff – good question! Most CO2 in the atmosphere comes from decomposing limestone.
Global warming began about the time that this poem became popular:
“Beans, Beans! Two cents a quart!
The more you eat the more you fart!
The more you fart, the better you feel!
So lets have beans at every meal!”
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And once the bean thing took hold the heat source went sky high and bounced back down.
I’m gonna take a guess that “climate change” has taken place for 4 billion years. Before that, the climate was
so bad; so adverse, that the earth wasn’t even here.
I wonder if the American Founders established, not a one man, one vote “democracy” but, a restricted-vote republic (male, 21, European, 50 lbs. Sterling/50 acres), so that rational, coherent governance, ending monarchy and dictatorship while facilitating freedom and free enterprise without interference by government, would be the result (then there’s the hysterical absurdity of the 19th amendment – can’t leave that out of the failure equation).
“…the more desperate the Church of Environmentalism members become…”
Hear, hear!
The inmates have taken over the asylum.
Mass hysteria.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2015/09/19/letter-to-president-obama-investigate-deniers-under-rico/
“The following is the text of a letter written by a number of scientists asking for a federal investigation of climate science denial under the RICO statute.
Letter to President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, and OSTP Director Holdren
September 1, 2015
Dear President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, and OSTP Director Holdren,
As you know, an overwhelming majority of climate scientists are convinced about the potentially serious adverse effects of human-induced climate change on human health, agriculture, and biodiversity. We applaud your efforts to regulate emissions and the other steps you are taking. Nonetheless, as climate scientists we are exceedingly concerned that America’s response to climate change – indeed, the world’s response to climate change – is insufficient. The risks posed by climate change, including increasing extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and increasing ocean acidity – and potential strategies for addressing them – are detailed in the Third National Climate Assessment (2014), Climate Change Impacts in the United States. The stability of the Earth’s climate over the past ten thousand years contributed to the growth of agriculture and therefore, a thriving human civilization. We are now at high risk of seriously destabilizing the Earth’s climate and irreparably harming people around the world, especially the world’s poorest people.
We appreciate that you are making aggressive and imaginative use of the limited tools available to you in the face of a recalcitrant Congress. One additional tool – recently proposed by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse – is a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) investigation of corporations and other organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change. The actions of these organizations have been extensively documented in peerreviewed academic research (Brulle, 2013) and in recent books including: Doubt is their Product (Michaels, 2008), Climate Cover-Up (Hoggan & Littlemore, 2009), Merchants of Doubt (Oreskes & Conway, 2010), The Climate War (Pooley, 2010), and in The Climate Deception Dossiers (Union of Concerned Scientists, 2015). We strongly endorse Senator Whitehouse’s call for a RICO investigation.
The methods of these organizations are quite similar to those used earlier by the tobacco industry. A RICO investigation (1999 to 2006) played an important role in stopping the tobacco industry from continuing to deceive the American people about the dangers of smoking. If corporations in the fossil fuel industry and their supporters are guilty of the misdeeds that have been documented in books and journal articles, it is imperative that these misdeeds be stopped as soon as possible so that America and the world can get on with the critically important business of finding effective ways to restabilize the Earth’s climate, before even more lasting damage is done.
Sincerely,
Jagadish Shukla, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
Edward Maibach, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
Paul Dirmeyer, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
Barry Klinger, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
Paul Schopf, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
(continued on page 2)
Letter to President Obama, Attorney General Lynch, and OSTP Director Holdren
David Straus, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
Edward Sarachik, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Michael Wallace, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Alan Robock, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ
Eugenia Kalnay, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
William Lau, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO
T.N. Krishnamurti, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL
Vasu Misra, Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL
Ben Kirtman, University of Miami, Miami, FL
Robert Dickinson, University of Texas, Austin, TX
Michela Biasutti, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY
Mark Cane, Columbia University, New York, NY
Lisa Goddard, Earth Institute, Columbia University, New York, NY
Alan Betts, Atmospheric Research, Pittsford, VT”
Inga – let me get this straight. George Mason University has 6 climate scientists and the University of Washington only has two? I smell a rat.
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/09/will-there-be-a-day-when-the-creeps-who-led-climate-denial-are-prosecuted/
“The first trials in which the defendants were charged with “Crimes Against Humanity” took place at Nuremburg, Germany in the wake of the Second World War. Since that time, such crimes have been defined to include mass murder and genocide as well as dehumanization, extermination and “experiments” conducted on humans without their consent. The definition also includes other atrocities carried out, by order or consent (active or de facto), of a government. While crimes against humanity have not been codified into international law, efforts at creating written statutes are being undertaken by the Crimes Against Humanity Initiative
Now, even Wall Street is speaking up, if only out of self-interest. Citibank recently released a report demonstrating that failure to take action on the climate now will cost $44 trillion over the next 25 years. And that’s just the financial costs. Over a year and a half ago, a study from the University of California in Berkeley noted that warming temperatures result in increased rates of violent behavior.”
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Prosecution is an option.
Inga – increase temperature causes violent crime (physical assaults) when the temperature reaches a specific range. Once it is over that range the temperature is no longer an issue. Actually it can be too hot to commit a violent crime or too cold.
There is hot, damn hot and too damn hot.
From 2012-2014, Scientist leading effort to prosecute climate skeptics under RICO ‘paid himself & his wife $1.5 million from govt climate grants for part-time work
http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/09/20/update-leader-of-effort-to-prosecute-skeptics-under-rico-paid-himself-his-wife-1-5-million-from-govt-climate-grants-for-part-time-work/
Proponents of “Climate-change”, “Global-Warming”, etc, are NOT scientists in the traditional and philosophical sense. They are control-freaks who want to enslave the world using their ‘religion’. Ain’t gonna happen on my watch.
But the Ice Age is long over, and the Earth will continue to change.
Actually……we are emerging still from the last Little Ice Age which began approximately in the 1300’s and ended approximately 1815. Prior to this little ice age we had the Medieval Warming period from about 950 ad to 1250 ad. So…….within the lifetimes of some of our most recent ancestors there was an ice age and a warming period.
Here is a good documentary about the little ice age and the medieval warming period. During the warming period life was good, people had crops, grapes grew in England, building boomed. During the ice age…..the reverse. Starvation, plagues, the dark ages in other words.
Warmer is better 😀 In addition the warming and cold were not world wide. It never is world wide so cherry picking the data is another example of false science There are ALWAYS areas where it is warmer or cooler than the average overall temperatures.
IN addition. When we get these breathless claims of temperatures being warmer than any in recorded history, we need to realizes that “recorded history” is not a very long time. We didn’t measure temperatures until recently and those earliest recordings are not necessarily very accurate. Neither are some of our current recordings when they are taken in heat sinks, near asphalt reflecting heat and other discrepancies.
History channel when it still actually showed history and not Honey Boo Boo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LObn2Sk7tVg
Carbon DIOXIDE, which we breath out with every single breath is not a pollutant. It is not carbon in the air. Carbon dioxide is a very small component in the atmosphere. Water vapor is more prevalent and a likely cause of atmospheric warm conditions Carbon Dioxide is necessary for plants to grow and they produce more oxygen which WE need to breathe in. Plants thrive in higher carbon dioxide atmospheres. We eat plants and we eat the animals that eat the plants.
I’ll take warm over freezing.
DBQ – I have given up on the History Channel and now use the American Heroes Channel. They have been running some good historical stuff. And some new stuff.
The 10th planet draws near. It’s coming from the south and not seen by telescopes. It is affecting our weather and will continue. Mankind cannot stop it. It’s bigger than earth.
I find this area of science very interesting.
Here is a link to the actual NOAA full report, and below that is a link to a video on how wolves change entire ecosystems:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201508
From the report:
“El Niño conditions were present across the equatorial Pacific Ocean during August 2015. According to analysis by NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center, sea surface temperatures during August were near or greater than 2°C (3.6°F) above the 1981–2010 average in the eastern half of the equatorial Pacific Ocean. There is a greater than 90 percent chance that El Niño will continue through Northern Hemisphere winter 2015/16.”
By definition, an El Nino year will be above average temperature and rainfall. Here in So Cal, we’ve had a very mild summer, with below average days greater than 100 degrees, but we’ve had those coveted El Nino summer thunderstorms. With this drought, I am praying for more rain.
On the one hand, if we keep pumping carbon into the atmosphere, eventually we will create a gaseous profile that is not optimal for mammalian life. So, obviously, there is a limit to our emissions.
On the other hand, the climate has always changed since Earth first gathered a gaseous envelope. We cannot “freeze” the climate, pun intended, at today’s values, nor should we. Polar Bears evolved in response to climate change. The cooling of the Earth was a catastrophe at the time, and they adapted to become hyper specialized to that cold environment. But the Ice Age is long over, and the Earth will continue to change. That hyper specialization for essentially a single food source, seal, which can only be hunted with good ice pack, now makes it very difficult for them to adapt again. Such climate change has been one of the main drivers for the evolution of new species, as well as their extinctions.
It is critical that humanity maintain its ability to adapt to a changing world, because change is constant. There is only one outcome for species who cannot adapt.
I can go to the coast and see the water line high up on the cliffs above me from ancient seas, when the polar caps had melted. Who believes this will never happen again? I have a fossilized shark tooth I found far inland from those ancient seas.
Even our land mass is continuing to change, with fault lines incrementally rearranging the land.
What has long frustrated me is the hyperfixation on anthropogenic climate change, at the expense of other current and pressing dangers. We do no have the money or interest left to address the de-vegetation of our planet, even though such flora cleans our air, removes carbon, banks moisture, affects local climate, and manufactures oxygen. Phytoplankton produce most of our oxygen, and yet we have polluted the entire ocean. But when was the last time we heard about de-vegetation and water pollution? China and Russia belch toxic clouds and their rivers and streams are considered by our standards to be toxic waste, but all we focus on is carbon. We are partially to blame for the raw sewage coming out of China, because we’ve shifted most of the world’s manufacturing to China. They just do our dirty work for us. All those neat new phones and computers we get every couple of years have toxic components, that we ship to India for little kids to pick through for scavenging income. And quite a few toxins are involved in the creation of solar panels in someone else’s backyard.
Nick is right; we have lost our focus on interconnected ecosystems and conservation of resources. Here is an interesting video on how the reintroduction of an apex predator, the wolf, changed an entire ecosystem through trophic cascades.
If climate change was due to Saddam Hussein, ISIS or the Taliban then the current climate change science deniers (vast majority are right wing types) would be fighting it with every tool and dollar imaginable. They would accept spying on all Americans who drive SUVs, heat homes of 1500 sq ft or more at temps of 72 F+, or use incandescent bulbs, The GOP would be touting science, embracing the data, criticizing those who don’t believe. They would be screaming ‘You’re either with us or against us!” They would be brought to action! There would be no stone unturned, no battle to large or no death toll to high, and no limit to the spending if only climate change was due to Muslims….
Maybe the corrupt, ignorant, clueless scientists at NOAA, NASA, and the IPCC, and the unAmerican, economy destroying, climate science supporter groups such as American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Chemical Society, American Geophysical Union, American Medical Association and the American Meteorological Society to name a few could just equate climate science to Muslims then there would be a groundswell of action from the right wing…..
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/04/noaa-fiddles-with-climate-data-to-erase-the-15-year-global-warming-hiatus/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/20/our-warmest-summer-and-almost-definitely-our-warmest-year-on-record-visualized/?utm_source=fb&utm_content=20150921_bo_warmest-year_heating_1&source=socnet_fb_CC_20150921_bo_warmest-year_heating_1&awesm=ofa.bo_c5Aw&utm_medium=socnet&utm_campaign=socnet_fb_CC_20150921_bo_warmest-year_heating_1
https://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/644132925278167040
https://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/644569671170195457
Steg – the numbers don’t add up. If humans only contribute 0.47 Gigatons of CO2 to the total CO2 in the atmosphere as claimed, then how has the atmospheric CO2 increased by 33%, or so, over the last 100 years? Based on the 3200 Gigatons of CO2 in the atmosphere, assuming this is today’s total, stated in the article, the initial CO2 would have had to have been about 2400 Gigatons. This is a difference of 800 Gigatons, of which only about 30 to 35 tons of that are human induced according to the article. Where did the rest of it come from? This doesn’t even count the CO2 that has been absorbed by the oceans which are being acidified to the point that all of the ocean’s corral reefs will probably be gone in less that 100 years.