What Elephant? AP Denies that There is Any Evidence That Joe Biden Discussed Hunter’s Business Dealings

For those of us who have written about the Hunter Biden scandal and the family’s influence-peddling operation for years, it is routine to read media stories denying the facts or dismissing calls to investigate the foreign dealings. However, this weekend, the Associated Press made a whopper of a claim that there is no evidence even suggesting that President Joe Biden ever spoke to his son about his foreign dealings. I previously discussed how the Bidens have succeeded in a Houdini-like trick in making this elephant of a scandal disappear from the public stage. They did so by enlisting the media in the illusion. However, this level of audience participation in the trick truly defies belief.

The statement of the Associated Press at this stage of the scandal is breathtaking but telling: “Joe Biden has said he’s never spoken to his son about his foreign business, and nothing the Republicans have put forth suggests otherwise.”

For years, the media has continued to report President Biden’s repeated claim that “I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.” At the outset, the media only had to suspend any disbelief that the president could fly to China as Vice President with his son on Air Force 2 without discussing his planned business dealings on the trip.

Of course, the emails on the laptop quickly refuted this claim. However, the media buried the laptop story before the election or pushed the false claim that it was fake Russian disinformation.

President Biden’s denials continued even after an audiotape surfaced showing President Biden leaving a message for Hunter specifically discussing coverage of those dealings. The call is specifically referring to these dealings:

“Hey pal, it’s Dad. It’s 8:15 on Wednesday night. If you get a chance just give me a call. Nothing urgent. I just wanted to talk to you. I thought the article released online, it’s going to be printed tomorrow in the Times, was good. I think you’re clear. And anyway if you get a chance give me a call, I love you.”

But who are you going to believe, the media or your own ears.

Some of us have written for two years that Biden’s denial of knowledge is patently false. It was equally evident that the Biden family was selling influence and access.

There are emails of Ukrainian and other foreign clients thanking Hunter Biden for arranging meetings with his father. There are photos from dinners and meetings that tie President Biden to these figures, including a 2015 dinner with a group of Hunter Biden’s Russian and Kazakh clients.

People apparently were told to avoid directly referring to President Biden. In one email, Tony Bobulinski, then a business partner of Hunter’s, was instructed by Biden associate James Gilliar not to speak of the former veep’s connection to any transactions: “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u [sic] are face to face, I know u [sic] know that but they are paranoid.”

Instead, the emails apparently refer to President Biden with code names such as “Celtic” or “the big guy.” In one, “the big guy” is discussed as possibly receiving a 10 percent cut on a deal with a Chinese energy firm; other emails reportedly refer to Hunter Biden paying portions of his father’s expenses and taxes.

Bobulinski has given multiple interviews that he met twice with Joe Biden to discuss a business deal in China with CEFC China Energy Co. That would seem obvious evidence. In addition, the New York Post reported on a key email that discussed “the proposed percentage distribution of equity in a company created for a joint venture with CEFC China Energy Co.” That was the email on March 13, 2017 that included references of “10 held by H for the big guy.”

The Associated Press later revised the line after an outcry from some of us. It now ends “there is no indication that the federal investigation involves the president.”  The revision creates a new problem. Rather than simply stating the fact, AP seems to struggle to shield the President. There is every indication that “the federal investigation involves the president.” Not only is the President discussed in key emails under investigation, but the grand jury heard testimony that the “Big Guy” is Joe Biden.

That brings us back to Houdini’s trick of making his 10,000 pound elephant Jennie disappear every night in New York’s Hippodrome. He succeeded night after night because the audience wanted the elephant to disappear even though it never left the stage.

I previously wrote about how the key to the trick was involving the media so that reporters are invested in the illusion like calling audience members to the stage. Reporters have to insist that there was nothing to see or they have to admit to being part of the original deception. The media cannot see the elephant without the public seeing something about the media in its past efforts to conceal it.

The media is now so heavily invested in the trick that they are sticking with the illusion even after “the reveal.” The Associated Press story shows that even pointing at the elephant — heck, even riding the elephant around the stage — will not dislodge these denials. This is no elephant because there cannot be an elephant. Poof!

N.B.: This column was revised to add discussion of the AP revision of the line on the investigation.

229 thoughts on “What Elephant? AP Denies that There is Any Evidence That Joe Biden Discussed Hunter’s Business Dealings”

  1. I have always had the utmost respect for Mr. Jonathan Turkey . God Bless you for having the guts and the integrity for telling the truth . I believe Joe Biden is a tyrant who seeks power above all else . While Donald Trump may be controversial , he is in my opinion no way near being as bad a politician as Joe Biden . If President Trump did break the law and try to unlawfully negate the last presidential election then he deserves to be punished . I do not believe former President Trump is guilty of espionage however . I also believe that he has received the worst treatment , probably any president in the history of our nation . While I am not a presidential historian , I do believe he at least has been treated the worst of any modern President easily . I also believe that he doesn’t deserve to be treated the way he has been treated for the most part , no matter what you think of him . I also think the modern Democratic Party is the most corrupt party our country has ever seen . We will probably lose some of our most cherished rights if Joe Biden wins another as President . The fact that his administration wanted a so called Ministry if Truth or Dept. of Disinformation to censor free speech should scare you to death . Combine the Dept. of Disinformation and Executive order 14067 to establish a digital dollar or Central Bank Digital Currency and some politicians are calling for Vaccine Passports and our freedoms will be gone . Wake up America .

  2. Those of us who have a reputation for credibility need not provide proof, so long as we do not undermine our own reputation.

    Those like DM who – just like this instance are NEVER right, ALWAYS require proof.

    We are NOT equal – that is an idiotic myth of the left.

    Some of us are smart, some not,
    some of us are talented, some not.
    Some of us are truthful and credible, some not.

    We are not therefore subject to the same expectations.
    If you have a poor track record – proof is required.

    In this instance DM’s claim that Alito was the source proved to be WORSE than your typical left wing nut garbage.

    That you even bothered to defend DM and attack ThinkItThrough over an issue that DM was so clearly wrong about
    undermines YOUR credibility

    But then there is a reason you are posting anoymously.

  3. Jonathan: Oh, I forgot to mention another important bit of news yesterday. On Saturday the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo (BPIR) was held in Fort Worth at the Cowtown Coliseum. The BPIR, for those who don’t know, is the only touring African American rodeo in the US. It is named after the legendary Black cowboy and performer who overcame discrimination to become the first Black rodeo athlete to be inducted in the Rodeo Hall of Fame. The participants in the BPIR help celebrate , validate and redefine the largely untold story of Black cowboys and cowgirls in the history of the West. There are a lot of books about Black cowboys and cowgirls but you probably won’t find them on the school library shelves in Florida. So as a public service announcement I am encouraging those on this blog to check out the BPIR website to see if they will be appearing in your city. It’s quite a sight to see nothing but Black people riding horses and dressed up in beautiful outfits and competing. Of course, I can understand why this might not appeal to some on this blog. It might make them feel “uncomfortable”. But isn’t that the whole idea?

    1. OMFG
      Bill Picket!!!! thats the racist hobby horse you want to whip?
      Poor recriminated man…..He was born in 1870! How many Blacks did The mayor of Chicago let die last weekend? Whats the over under for murdered Blacks in Chicago over the long Thanksgiving Holliday? 50 dead?

    1. From the article: “Russian agents did conspire to influence the election”

      They probably did in order to cause dissension, but did a bad job if they intended to help either candidate. The rest is opinion based on little fact. Nowhere do they mention such actions were based on the direction of either candidate.

      The Steele Dossier was a hoax. It was a collection of lies mixed with a bit of meaningless reality.

      Sue, show us the parts of the Steele Dossier you find meaningful and show us a legitimate reason why you believe Trump was directing the Russians to do anything.

      “Don’t take MY word for it.”

      You can use your words or the articles, but make sure you can provide adequate explanation why you find any of the junk meaningful. You can’t and that is why your claims are wrong.

        1. Sue, you fail to understand that people of all types have biases seen when they write or speak.

          The end of our exchange is that you have no data, nothing to say, zilch. You are unable to pick out data from the article. You picked out a biased opinion, and the reason we know it is the author stayed away from facts using indirect statements instead.

          Go to the article and prove your point. You can’t. That is why you need to end the discussion.

          I like much of what Cato says, even though I have some disagreements. In fact, some of what they say is sometimes disagreeable to libertarians. Sometimes Cato’s opinions agree with Democrat opinion though more often they agree with Republicans.

          Go to the article and prove your point. You can’t. Now you can end the discussion of your own volition, but you own your loss, your inability to prove a point.

        2. >> If you dismiss Cato Institute opinions as “junk,” that’s the end of our exchange. >>

          Of course it is. Little Susie is so offended by the word “junk” that she’s taking her ball and going home.

    2. The Dossier was completely false. Steele was ordered by a Judge in UK to do Interrogatories for a case where he was being sued by a man from FL. In there he testified, under oath, that the dossier was “unverifiable.” The FBI offered $1 million if Steele could verify the Dossier, he admitted he couldn’t. The FBI interviewed a Russian that Steele talked to. He said that it was “Bar talk” he couldn’t “believe anyone could believe that information, it wasn’t true.”
      Mueller admitted they couldn’t find any collusion. In the second part,the person who wrote it tried to hint that there was some not so legal behavior. But,they couldn’t relate anything. It sounded like the writing of Lawyer Andrew Weissman, who is a disgusting man, who’s done terrible things & destroyed people’s lives & was wrong & was overturned, but he’d already done the damage to the men, one died in prison, an innocent man, He hated Trump & wanted to find something, but there was nothing there, so he tried to write to make it SOUND like there was something there. Read it very carefully & then go and read some of his garbage on his cases, you’ll see the way he writes & know he wrote this part of the Mueller Report for sure. Trump didn’t do anything. They couldn’t find anything after 32 months of investigation. 10 months by FBI & 22 months of Mueller & his hatchet men!

  4. Biden says he never discussed business dealings with Hunter. Shouldn’t the first question be: “Why the heck NOT ?!”. I mean, you’re a public figure having supposedly spent a lifetime concerned about “the appearance of impropriety”. Your untalented, extremely troubled son is traveling the world hauling in boatloads of money. And you don’t ask him what’s going on??!!!
    Totally unbelievable. Never mind just the normal parental curiosity. THIS parent had a lot of reasons to ask what his son was up to.

    And let’s not forget the brother……

  5. The AP (Associated Press) says there is no Joe and Hunter Biden story. They also call elections for Democrats, before all of the votes have been counted. The AP Lies.

  6. Joe will pardon Hunter, regardless of what he did, or might do. The Senate will never convict Joe via impeachment trial. No matter how corrupt it may be, all of this is a gigantic nothing-burger.

      1. Yes, we have to impeach in the House. If we don’t the Democrats will be worse than ever the ne t time they have all the power. They impeached Trump twice & didn’t have any proof of anything. There is so much evidence against Biden, the America people need to know the truth. They just get bits & pieces now & every media has different story. The full story needs to come out. He also took oil from America’s Strategic Oil Reserve, meant ONLY for Emergencies & sold it to China, one of the Countries Hunter & him did business with, an oil company. That’s an impeachable offense.
        Our Constitution states that the Executive Branch has the responsibility to protect the States from an invasion. He has deliberately allowed an invasion into several states & then deliberately transferred thousands to other stated. That’s an impeachable offense also.

  7. The original claim that the president covered or got a kickback from a negotiation carried on by hunter is not addressed. All that is addressed is that he thinks he is smart and has concluded that because he is smart Biden extorted cash from China. This article is propaganda, pure and simple.

    1. So your saying that this (“This article is propaganda”) is a ‘Distraction’.
      The Democratic Press is full of Distractions.

      Touché !

    2. The article cites evidence that Joe Biden has lied repeatedly about something important enough for him to lie about it. He could have easily said “We talked about things in general terms” etc. being the seasoned shyster that he has always been, since he smeared the unfortunate truck driver who was driving when Biden’s wife pulled directly in front of him coming down a hill and he had no possible way to stop in time. Biden said “he must have drunk his lunch”. There was never any evidence to even hint at such a thing. He accused Donald Trump of “killing all those people” too when it was the criminal regime in China that deliberately spread the virus. His administration is covering up the origin of the virus. Taken as a whole the evidence that Biden is owned by China is a lot stronger than any of the “evidence” that Trump colluded with the Russians, which turned out to be entirely based on forgeries, lies from inside the government and arguably criminal behavior by the so-called “news media” itself. And the NY Times got a prize!

      This is remarkably parallel to the case of Walter Duranty. Or the reporter Tablet magazine wrote about last year “The NY Times Nazi Correspondent”. For those wishing a comprehensive view about the “newspaper of record” see “The Gray Lady Winked” which has been conspicuously absent from major media reviews or C-Span’s BookTV. (While Book TV gave a platform to Stacy Abrams and Bill Clinton to promote works of fictjon).

    3. Actually Dr. Turley and others have addressed it multiple times it’s just that you have blinders on. Watch out because you’re getting run over by elephants Tommy.

  8. For decades, many journalists have followed their biases, their ideologies, and their hatreds even when doing so has been damaging to the profitability of their employers. We are now, however, on the cusp a severe recession. It will be interesting to see if the major news outlets allow the foolishness to continue.

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