We often discuss the disconnect of religious fanatics who rape or beat or kill women and girls in the name of morality. Often such abuses seems to be condoned by governments like Iran. However, after a series of acid attacks on women for not being properly veiled, the Iranian government is actually investigating and denouncing the attacks.
The government’s sympathy only go so far. Under the Sharia-based law in Iran, women must wear the loose fitting hijab that covers their heads and necks.
The attacks have occurred in Isfahan and General Hossein Ashtari has confirmed at least four acid attacks. Others say that there are at least 13 women chemically burned for being “badly veiled.” Other attacks have occurred in Pakistan, Afghanistan and India where the women are accused of “sullying” their family “honour” by committing “indecent” behaviour.
While the government has insisted that it will investigate, others have insisted that it must also punish women who are not sufficiently covered. Various women have adopted thin veiled or more shapely clothing to the outrage of religious Iranians. Iranian MPs have written to President Hassan Rouhani to demand that police increase enforcement of wearing of the veil. Once again, these legislators have little faith in convincing people to follow their Islamic values. Instead, they want to coerce them to comply to their values and call it a moral act.
Source: Yahoo
Elaine, I don’t think too many of these folks are claiming to have 12 kids but yet they abhor family planning.
Now we’re talking about Obama’s SS#? What next? Claims that Hillary Clinton eats the flesh of newborns babies?
Someone asked about Obama and his citizenship and I offered a piece of factual information.
http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/birthers.gif
swarthmoremom,
Some people aren’t attempting to make sense. They just don’t have a good argument to present…so they try to divert attention away to other things…like Joe Biden’s son.
Annie – Obama’s SS number does not fit with anyplace he has ever lived. You tell me.
Just so you don’t feel surprised in November, after the election. This is what is coming our way. Thanks to the Brits, who are willing to report it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2800356/us-immigration-authorities-prep-order-34-million-blank-green-cards-work-authorization-papers-obama-readies-executive-order-illegal-aliens.html
So what is the CONCLUSION? Is Obama a US citizen?
Paul C, Because people plan how many children they would like to have that is waging a war on babies?
http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/american-taliban.gif
Annie – abortion is a war on babies.
@Elaine
Thank you for the working link! I am in the process of reading the article, but let me share one concern that I already have, just in Part 1. Here is an excerpt:
That is what is known as a CONCLUSION, not a fact. That CONCLUSION is based upon one’s personal opinion. It may be a true CONCLUSION, or it may be a false CONCLUSION, but it is a CONCLUSION nonetheless that is being presented during the initial presentation of what are supposed to be FACTS.
There are many more such CONCLUSIONS and I am still on part 1. This piece already has the feel of a liberal hit/smear piece against Christianity and guns. The reason why this is important is because when you focus more on the CONCLUSIONS than the facts, you just end up with propaganda. Now, if the facts from the next parts reveal that the perps are white Christian men, and NRA members who are married to the vics, then those CONCLUSIONS may end up being more true than false, and there may be a rational factual basis for the CONCLUSION.
But what is a disproportionate number of the perps are black men who are not married to the vic??? Or, illegal immigrants??? Then, would not an equally probable CONCLUSION be either that a welfare system which is destructive to a stable family structure is too blame, or that the illegal immigrants have brought with their own cultural biases against women???
In those cases, the CONCLUSIONS presented by the authors are not only wrong, they obscure the real reasons for the crimes, thus guaranteeing that any solutions will probably be ineffective. Not to mention that you will have ended up just incorrectly confirming your own biases.
Anyway, I am off to read the rest of it!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Family planning improves women’s lives.
Everywhere.
Yet the American Taliban fiercely objects to family planning.
The American Taliban wage a War on Women.
docmadison – and ‘family planning women’ wage war on babies.
Annie,
🙂
Paul….Oh look, Squirrel!”
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201103/misinformation-and-facts-about-secularism-and-religion
Murder rates higher in ‘religious’ states.
You guys know that Psychology Today is the People Magazine of the psychology world.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-arrest-acid-attack-26316056 i don’t think that the throwing of acid was condoned. Government said these attackers could face the death penalty. I am not in favor of the death penalty whether it is in Iran or Texas. Violence begets violence….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub7GfVAHnc0
Published on Oct 22, 2013
South Carolina ranks first in the nation in women murdered by men. 93% of women murdered knew their offenders. Those numbers were released in an annual report today by the Violence Policy Center to coincide with Domestic Violence Awareness month in October. Violence prevention advocates say exposing those shocking numbers can help reduce the violence. South Carolina has been in the top 10 every year for the past 10 years. North Carolina ranked 22nd in the nation.
if there’s mention of real violence against women here, that’s laughed off
Maxcat
No one is laughing it off, that I can see. No one is saying that there isn’t violence against women in the US either.
I am pointing out that the First World Problem solutions are not the first priority of many women who are being oppressed and in specific the women in the article referenced.
C’mon, now we’re into debate as to which is worse, being killed with acid or being shot by a spouse?
See…..here is the difference. In some parts of the world both of those actions are perfectly ok with the values and cultures of the area. A man is allowed to do either. In OUR culture neither one of those things are allowed, approved of and you will be punished. This is why we need to understand that there is no equivalence between the two because we are in different worlds. From Iran to the US. And to think that the solutions that would work in the Western cultures would work equally as well in other is foolish.
Maybe someday the access to birth control and the worry about whether there is equal pay may be a concern in Islamic countries. That would be real progress. However those mundane concerns are worth a warm bucket of spit right now to the women in REAL danger.
Squeeky, how do your religious values comport with extreme disprespect of the elderly?
Squeeky,
Here’s a link to and an excerpt from he first article in the series:
http://www.postandcourier.com/tilldeath/partone.html
More than 300 women were shot, stabbed, strangled, beaten, bludgeoned or burned to death over the past decade by men in South Carolina, dying at a rate of one every 12 days while the state does little to stem the carnage from domestic abuse.
More than three times as many women have died here at the hands of current or former lovers than the number of Palmetto State soldiers killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.
It’s a staggering toll that for more than 15 years has placed South Carolina among the top 10 states nationally in the rate of women killed by men. The state topped the list on three occasions, including this past year, when it posted a murder rate for women that was more than double the national rate.
Squeeky, not only doesn’t religion do a perfect job, fundamentalist Christians take abusive passages in the Bible literally.