Darren and Carolyn Carter recently shared a romantic moment that left millions disgusted. The couple paid to shoot a giant lion in a canned hunt in South Africa and then celebrated by kissing over the dead body of the animal. We have previously discussed such thrill kill pictures that leave most of us wanting to retch. Nevertheless, the Carters thought shooting a lion with a high-powered rifle was not just an accomplishment but a bonding moment.
As regulars on this blog know, I am no fan of such trophy hunts. I often hike in remote spots to see bears and other animals in their natural habitat. We have previously followed the controversy over the shooting of “Cecil the Lion” by an American dentist Walter Palmer from Minnesota as well as subsequent controversies of an Idaho hunter taunting animal advocates and killing giant elephants or giraffes or rare goats or famed wolves or famed elephants for trophies. We discussed how the highly corrupt Zambian government to allow trophy hunters to kill thousands of hippos, including rare and threatens species for windfall payments.
Legelela Safaris arranges for these opportunities to shoot large animals for the thrill and posted the picture with the caption: “Hard work in the hot Kalahari sun…well done. A monster lion.” Critics have charged that the lions are bred to be shot by wealthy trophy hunters. The company offers giraffe hunts for £2,400, zebra from £2,000, with prices for leopard, rhino, lion and elephant hunts available “on request”.
The Mirror reports that the couple run a taxidermy business in Canada. When contacted by the media, Darren Carter would only say “We aren’t interested in commenting on that at all. It’s too political.”
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I don’t understand the desire to hunt except for food or protection. However, I am aware that millions of natural history museum visitors pay to see taxidermy specimens. I’ve always found them very sad.
In one of the articles, it was claimed that it was a canned hunt. I went to the Legelela website (http://legelelasafaris.co.za), and it doesn’t say. It appears that dove and pigeon hunting are over crop fields, but otherwise “in the mountains” is all I can find on guided hunts.
This isn’t a man who’s out in the bush on his own, hunting a man-eating lion that is terrorizing a village. It’s not a battle of wits and skill. It’s probably a team of spotters, trackers, and beaters. Are these wild lions, or were they farmed and released? I can’t say it’s a canned hunt, though, without proof.
Maybe it’s just sad. It’s legal, but not my thing.
Keep Professor Turley well away from the slaughterhouse where his Filet Mignon and his kids’ In-N-Out Burgers are butchered.
As a long time hunter and professional guide in Northern New Mexico I find the idea of “canned hunts” repulsive and they should be outlawed. On the other hand I have no problem with hunting for a trophy and either taking if you find, rejecting, or taking a lessor animal. I do have a very big problem with letting the meat go to waste. I raised a family on the game, fowl, fish etc. that I killed. Had I ever had the money I would have hunted the big 5 with emphasis on the Cape Buffalo. Never found the idea of shooting a zebra, giraffe, etc. worthwhile.
Black bears are not prone to attack, unless with cubs. Professor, I hope you never hear that meow, yes meow, watch a house cat hunt and you will know, from a lion only feet away in the scrub oak like I have, make your hair stand on end…lol. They will attack. I’m no city boy, grew up with guns and hunting. And while that lion would have got his/her licks in, I would have won. Never unarmed.
Personally I think anybody that goes hiking alone in the woods unarmed is a fool asking for trouble.
Sergeant, your Sabai is showing:
Mi cothai? And that is not Thai traditional clothing. Just an imagination of what is was, even for the hi-so’s. Scrap the tops, leave the wrap around bottoms and you are close. Also those women have had nose surgery. I’ve lived here for a long time, married to a Thai and have Lao mia noi.
I read this article on how “traditional” Thai clothing has drastically changed over the past hundred years, in a push/pull with Westernization. The topic was the baring of shoulders, and how the effect changes drastically if it’s a Westernized spaghetti strap or a wrap. From your perspective in Thailand, what do you think?
I’ll try to make this short for all. I could write a short essay on all that I’ve learned and even more on what I will never learn. I don’t care if you speak all the Thai languages, have been here 50 yrs. you will always be farang and will never know or really understand Thailand. You are not Thai.
Karen S. you have pretty good knowledge of Thailand. The article is pretty much right and your analysis of men, women relationships is pretty much correct. Clothing has changed even since I’ve been here, some 20 yrs. now off and on. Permanent for 10. When I first came you could sit down with a naked AGoGo lady for a couple of drinks. If you hit it off she would come back to leave with you looking like a village woman. Not quite so anymore. The younger Thais in particular dress much more sexy than they did then. And they even show affection in public, oh my. Why I actually saw a kiss on Thai TV the other day, what is the world coming to. Yet sex and the sex trade is and always has been part of Thai life. Oh and deer leader, a Buddhist puritan, hates it, hates westerners and western ways. He wants to go back to a make believe time when the hi-so’s ruled. Probably does think that’s what people dressed like. Some of the Thai soaps, damn they are bad, do show correct period dress from the 1930’s etc.
Thai women are known for “hedging the bet” and any male that refutes that is going to wake up broke and alone. Or come back from months away working only to find the expensive house he build for his loving Thai wife is being lived in my some other man and he is locked out. That can happen in Buddha marriage, not in legal paper signed marriage unless the man is a complete idiot. Here, unlike the states, if you are legally married the man doesn’t get the short end of the stick with the long end rammed up his behind.
I live in Isan, NE Thailand, not far from the Lao border. This part of Isan was Lao many, many years ago and was populated by forcing the Lao people around Vientiane to move here after Vientiane was sacked by the Thai army way, way back when.
Yes I have a Thai wife and a Lao mia noi. I’ve been married for 12 yrs., my wife and I have not slept together for years for reasons that are nobody’s business. I’ve been with my mia noi for 7/8 yrs. now. and yes there are hassles and sometimes a bit difficult supporting 2 families and if you don’t support, many times including the parents, you won’t last. But hey at 74 I have to live while I can.
Thailand is a very complicated country, as is all of SE Asia. I’ve been to Lao, Cambodia, was just back for a friend’s wedding, and Vietnam-many years ago for an expense paid vacation courtesy Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children. The women are beautiful but I’ve no desire to return. Plenty around even here. Ah Uncle Ho used to live just outside town, there is a museum there now and it is still Vietnamese village.
Now “sabai”. I don’t know what some think it means but nothing to do with clothing. It means several things as do many words here, Thai does not translate, it “transliterates”. Basically happy, ok. Used in greeting at times. Sawaadee Krap (kap here in Isan) often followed by Sabai dee mi, meaning how are you, are you ok etc. In Lao, Sabai dee mi is the formal greeting without the question.
Now can we stay on subject. I could ramble on and on…lol.
you got a thai wife and girlfriend too? why punish yourself so much sgt. cut back on the hassles.
Farangs always think they are the only one for their mia noi. They might be more courtesan than prostitute, but they’re almost always on the hustle.
Maybe a Thai wife expects a mistress, or maybe she doesn’t know. After all, there is a cultural tradition of minor wives. There is still arranged marriage in Thailand, and while it is culturally frowned upon for the wife in an arranged marriage to seek love or excitement privately, the men with means still do.
Since men generally do not seek out situations where their wife sleeps with other men, they are behaving in a way they would not enjoy being on the receiving end. The thing is, many mistresses cheat, because they rationalize that the man is cheating to see them, so why not? A man is someone who can take care of things and support them, and therefore their affections mercenary.
So as not to throw shade on all the minor wives out there in Thailand, there are some who are in a stable, long term relationship with a shared man who lives with his main wife. The hustle would apply most to a young Thai who’s shopping. They can have their Plan B and C backup men. As monogamy is the law in Thailand, the minor wives are more like long term mistresses. There are risks for relationships that are not monogamous.
Cultural attitudes towards relationships, especially marriage, certainly differ around the world.
I’m just sayin’ that Sabai looks great on you, Sarge!
I mean you’re the one that said it, right?
Hey, Sarge, do you also dawn the “shoulder sash” for evening attire?
Sabai (Thai: สไบ, RTGS: sabai, pronounced [sābāj]; Lao: ສະໄບ), or phaa biang (Lao: ຜ້າບ່ຽງ; Thai: ผ้าเบี่ยง, pronounced [pʰâː bìa̯ŋ]) is shawl-like garment, or breast cloth worn in mainland Southeast Asia. The term “Sabai” is used for a woman’s silk breast wrapper in Cambodia, central Thailand, southern Thailand, northern Thailand, Isan, and Laos while in coastal Sumatra it is described as a shoulder cloth.:410 A Sabai can also be worn by men in Lao weddings or when attending religious ceremonies. The type of Sabai typically worn by Lao men often has checkered patterns. Sabai also well known as a long piece of silk, about a foot wide, draped diagonally over the chest covering one shoulder with one end dropping behind the back.”
Along with the shoulder sash, selendang of Malay and Sabai of Thailand may have been derived from the Indian garment called a sari, the end of which is worn over one shoulder:153, as most Southeast Asia countries were ruled by Indianized kingdoms.
A lot of Thai/Lao men wear a checkered sash around the waist, I’m not Thai. And while you may be correct, not once in my 19 yrs. here have I heard it in any other context besides what I describe. And exactly what are you hinting at and why?
Trophy hunters need to be shot and hung up on a high fence to dry. Lions do not need to be shot unless they live in Detroit.
I share your distaste for such things, but be careful not to get blinded by the bubble you live in …”leave most of us wanting to retch” … how do you know that?
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