It may be time for Joe Biden and the media to go out for another ice cream scoop. Hunter Biden is back in the news in a big way.
A newly released email from the State Department shows that former U.S. embassy official George Kent raised concerns about how Hunter Biden’s influence peddling would “undercut” anti-corruption efforts in the Ukraine. The email contradicts President Joe Biden’s repeated assurances that no one has accused his family of doing anything wrong as well as his claims as a key figure in anti-corruption efforts in the Ukraine.
President Biden once bragged how he got the lead prosecutor fired in the Ukraine because of his concerns about corruption. However, around that time, his son was, according to this email, actively undermining the anti-corruption efforts with his raw influence peddling.
The email, obtained by Just the News, dates from Nov. 22, 2016, when former U.S. embassy official George Kent raised concerns over Hunter Biden’s Ukraine dealings with former Ukrainian natural resources minister and Burisma Holdings founder Mykola Zlochevsky.
Kent was lionized by Democrats during the Trump impeachment but they appear universally silent on his email (which must have been known to the impeachment committee staff).
Notably, Kent said in his email that someone in Washington needed to engage then-Vice President Biden about how his son is “undercut[ting] the anti-corruption message the VP and we were advancing in Ukraine.” So why would Hunter Biden’s efforts “undercut the anti-corruption message” other than being a form of corruption?
The release raises a number of tough questions. First, did anyone raise the matter with Joe Biden and, if not, why? Kent states that Sally Painter was tasked with the raising issue on Hunter, but that he never heard back from her. Painter serves as the Chief Operating Officer of Washington, D.C. consultancy firm Blue Star Strategy.
Second, this is only classified at the “confidential” level, so why was it not disclosed earlier? The recipients of the email included Jorgan K. Andrews, then-Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, and then-U.S. Ambassador to Kyiv Marie Yovanovitch. It was Yovanovitch who reportedly xclassified the email. Why?
Once again, while the New York Times recently sued to get the Biden Administration to turn over material related to Romania, the level of success of the Biden team and the media had in burying this scandal is breathtaking. To this day, most of the media remains invested in maintaining the narrative that this was really not a story worth focusing on before or after the election.
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Democratic-led House passes China competition bill with funding for chipmakers
GOP also argue the measure comes too late to slow inflation, for which they say Democrat President Biden is responsible
“However, Republicans say the measure is “toothless” and fail to hold the country, run by the Chinese Communist Party, accountable for economic and human rights violations, the wire service also reports.”
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/house-vote-billion-dollar-semiconductor-bill-gop-calls-toothless-challenge?utm_source=breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
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They also argue the measure comes too late to slow inflation, for which they say Democrat President Biden is responsible.
Additionally they have add ons like climate change. They are moving towards Trump policies with all the Democrat add-ons and not dealing correctly with China. This is an incompetent administration and an incompetent Democrat Congress.
After weeks of new information on who was working to overturn the election, and Trump’s hand in the cookie jar, Turley again deflects and writes about Hunter Biden again. The question must be asked, did Turley help or give any legal advice to the plotters or Trump’s lawyers concerning Trump’s attempt to overturn the election. Turley’s lack of interest in a unconstitutional attempt of a coup is suspicious. If Hunter Biden can be indicated fine, let the chips fall as they may, but Turley letting his readers hear crickets concerning the coup attempt is only feeding what a lot of people already think of Turley.
“If Hunter Biden could be indicted fine….”
He could have been, but he wasn’t.
All swept away just like it always is when you are a Democrat….not a word about it in the corrupt Fake News Democrat Media, of course….
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“Joe Biden’s 50-something year-old son illegally purchased a firearm that his lover tossed in a trash can across from a school. Secret Service is accused of hiding it and ATF is dropping the inquiry. I will not take lectures on firearms from this man.” @DLoesch
“ATF will neither confirm nor deny the existence of any records related to Hunter Biden’s reported gun purchase because public interest is outweighed by his privacy interests, the Bureau asserted in a Motion for Summary Judgment filed Friday in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. That information, ATF argues, is protected by Freedom of Information Act exemptions, and therefore Judge Rudolph Conteras should grant its motion and order the case dismissed.
That’s the CliffsNotes version of the filing, embedded below, the latest action in a story that began in late October of 2020 with a report that in 2018, Biden’s then love interest, his brother’s widow Hallie, had taken his gun after a dispute and thrown in it a supermarket trash bin.
This column followed up on that two days later by pointing out that the time Biden purchased the gun coincided with documented periods of reported continued substance abuse, and that this would have disqualified him from purchasing a firearm unless he attested “No” to the controlled substance question on the required ATF 4473 Firearms Transfer Record.
Lying on that form is a federal felony….”
Indeed it is. For the little people.
Not one law abiding citizen of this country should listen to one word the Big Guy, Joe Biden says about guns, crime, corruption, or anything else…..
Let’s Go Brandon! FJB!
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/01/exclusive-atf-asks-judge-to-order-hunter-biden-gun-inquiry-closed/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#axzz7JrYQBczG
Embedded below is the ATF filling consisting of five merged documents:
Defendant’s Motion for Summary Judgment
Declaration of BATFE Chief, Information and Privacy Governance Division
Email Exhibits
Statement of Material Facts Not in Dispute
Proposed Order
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Also, Politico article detailing how daddy’s Secret Service intervened in Hunter Biden’s gun case
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/sources-secret-service-inserted-itself-into-case-of-hunter-bidens-gun-477879
The list of links including Kent’s letter are listed at:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/classified-state-department-email-declared-hunter-biden#digital-diary
We hear one story from Democrats when they are talking publicly, but another story in the documents. There are a lot of mistruths or inaccurate presentations by Democrats. There is no way to defend such atrocious behavior.
Between the Clintons and the Bidens it is obvious there are two judicial systems: One for them, and the other for the rest of America.
The media failing to investigate, report and hold them accountable is the reason why the public has such a poor opinion of the media.
I do find it interesting how some members on the Jan6 committee have expressed, “‘who felt devastated for our democracy’ when CNN Jeff Zucker resigned.
I’d love for Congress to make influence peddling illegal.
But I doubt they will.
A reminder: Shokin was fired because he wasn’t addressing corruption. He wasn’t investigating Burisma when he was fired. Biden wanted him fired despite the fact that it would increase the likelihood of Burisma being investigated.
This is disputed. There is considerable evidence to the contrary.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to as “This.”
The 3 parts of my claim:
1) Shokin was fired because he wasn’t addressing corruption.
2) He wasn’t investigating Burisma when he was fired.
3) Biden wanted him fired despite the fact that it would increase the likelihood of Burisma being investigated.
Are you referring to all three parts? If not, just clarify. But if you *are* referring to all 3, let’s take them one at a time, preferably using contemporaneous documents and testimony under oath.
1) Shokin was fired because he wasn’t addressing corruption.
Here, for example, is testimony before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 2016:
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/03%2015%2016%20Ukrainian%20Reforms%20Two%20Years%20After%20the%20Maidan%20Revolution%20and%20the%20Russian%20Invasion.pdf
The prepared statement of retired Ambassador Herbst says “Critics focused on the absence of any real changes in the Procurator General’s Office and in the judiciary and claimed that the president and prime minister were not interested in going after these major sources of corruption. Both institutions were known to facilitate corruption. They pointed to the failure of the government—through the Procurator General— to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption. They complained, too, that Procurator General Viktor Shokin was a compromised figure who had served as Procurator General in the Yanukovych administration. By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office.”
And here is contemporaneous reporting from the EU after Shokin was removed:
“The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine’s scandal-ridden prosecutor general [Shokin] and called for a crackdown on corruption …. Ukraine’s parliament voted overwhelmingly to fire Viktor Shokin, ridding the beleaguered prosecutor’s office of a figure who is accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and stymying moves to root out graft.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190
And here is contemporaneous reporting from the Atlantic Council:
“On March 29, the Ukrainian Rada finally approved the resignation of Ukraine’s disreputable Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. … The amazing thing is not that he was sacked but that it has taken so long. President Petro Poroshenko appointed Shokin to the role in February 2015. From the outset, he stood out by causing great damage even to Ukraine’s substandard legal system. Most strikingly, Shokin failed to prosecute any single prominent member of the Yanukovych regime. Nor did he prosecute anyone in the current government. Shokin skillfully blocked reform.”
atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/shokin-s-revenge-ukraine-s-odious-prosecutor-general-fires-honest-deputy-before-parliament-sacks-him/
Shokin tells a different story, including a discussion with the President where he is told that unless he drops the investigation of Burisma at Biden’s request he will have to go.
Daniel,
I quoted from and linked to 3 pieces of evidence. One was testimony under oath. The other two were contemporaneous reporting.
You’ve make a claim about what Shokin said at some unspecified date, presumably not under oath (please correct me if I’m wrong).
Will you provide a link or a quote from whatever you’re referring to, so we can check the details of what Shokin said?
“Contemporaneous Reporting”….from the same sources that told us all about Russia Collusion for four long years and have yet corrected, removed, admitted or apologized for false reporting…those sources?
As to “Sworn Testimony under Oath”…..any of that testimony been challenged by documents uncovered or de-classified since then?
Care to be specific what your “sources” are and confirm exactly how you know them to be credible, accurate, and reliable….and proven to be so?
You are stating an opinion….your own opinion….not making a statement of fact unless you can corroborate your comments.
ATS, the information you are asking for was provided to the blog in a report written by Solomon for Just the News quite a while back. Now you want someone to search for it, and then you will start with, what cookie jar? What hand? Where is the DNA testing etc.? This is non-stop with you, even after the truth has been established earlier. That is why you are known as a liar.
Daniel,
Your reply to Spanky was removed along with 3 comments where Spanky copied copyrighted articles in excess of fair use. Turley obeys the law when it comes to copyright infringement.
Shokin’s affidavit is largely hearsay. It also wasn’t submitted under penalty of perjury. Shokin’s case was closed after the Ukrainian National Police found no evidence of wrongdoing on Biden’s part.
NBC News says that “Under Ukrainian law, anyone can go to court to request an investigation if the State Investigative Bureau declines to open one on its own. The courts overwhelmingly order law enforcement to launch criminal cases even in the absence of evidence, according to Vitaly Shabunin, the co-founder of the Anti-Corruption Action Center, a Kyiv-based watchdog group. … Shokin has alleged that he was forced to resign once he started looking into Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma, but a deputy prosecutor working under Shokin has said [hyperlink to: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim%5D the Burisma case had been dormant at the time the U.S. was pushing for Shokin’s removal.”
It’s possible that Shokin is telling the truth. It’s also possible that he’s lying because it benefits him. I certainly wouldn’t trust his claims unless they’re made under oath with a penalty for lying and subject to cross-examination.
Sorry, looks like the system appended my close-bracket to the link.
The correct link is https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim
Everyone will spin things in their favor, but the Biden Family engaged in corruption in this case. The Biden video, the laptop, and the many statements show evidence of corruption that cannot be ignored except by those who are intentionally dishonest.
No one denies the dishonesty of Burisma, and everyone knows Hunter’s connection. Some people pretend to be blind to the facts because honesty is a trait they lack.
I actually trust Shokin on this matter much more than I would trust any of the Bidens.
Daniel,
I haven’t presented any evidence from the Bidens or asked you to trust them.
I’ve presented evidence from Ambassador Herbst (under oath), from George Kent (under oath), from a contemporaneous EU news source, from a contemporaneous Atlantic Council source, and from a deputy prosecutor working under Shokin.
So the question is: why do you trust Shokin more than those 5 sources in combination?
There’s more where those statements came from. For example, George Kent again (under oath):
“I did not witness any efforts by any U.S. official to shield Burisma from scrutiny. In fact, I and other U.S. officials consistently advocated reinstituting a scuttled investigation of Zlochevsky, Burisma’s founder, as well as holding the corrupt prosecutors who closed the case to account.”
I have no reason to trust Shokin over all these other sources, especially when he is not under oath and cannot be cross-examined. Are you suggesting that Herbst and Kent committed perjury? that they were ignorant? how do you explain their sworn testimony?
Daniel, ATS could see pictures of Biden’s hand in the cookie jar and still deny it. He will say, prove that is a cookie jar, prove it was the right cookie jar, and prove it was Biden’s hand. After that he will say did you compare the DNA of the hand to Biden, did you do a chemical analysis of the cookie jar? There is no end to this type of prevarication.
When he starts to look like a fool, he will walk away and later deny ever making such foolish statements while blaming it on one of his pretend anonymous friends.
He is a devout leftist where reality is whatever he wishes to think at the time.
Joe Biden wanted Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin fired because Shokin was actively investigating Burisma Holding Limited, and it’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, because Zlochevsky illegally approved oil and gas drilling permits for Burisma when serving as Ukraine’s Ecology and Natural Resources Minister.
Biden later bragged, on camera, about getting Shokin fired to a CFR gathering by threatening Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, telling him that he (Biden) would withhold a billion dollars of financial aid to Ukraine if Poroshenko did not fire Shokin before Biden left the Ukraine later that day…
Spanky, your say-so is not evidence.
I’ve presented 3 pieces of evidence, one was testimony under oath and the other two were contemporaneous reporting of what occurred.
Do you have actual evidence, preferably either testimony under oath or contemporaneous reporting?
I also recall some of these points, including Shokin’s discussion with the President, being in an affidavit sworn to by Shokin.
Daniel, have you ever looked up what happened with this case filed almost 2 years ago?
Have you read Shokin’s affidavit in full, which includes statements like “I assume Burisma, which was connected with gas extraction, had the support of the US Vice-President Joe Biden because his son was on the Board of Directors.” An assumption is not a fact.
Did you notice that the affidavit was filed under the statement “I have given this statement orally in Russian. I have carefully read Ukrainian and Russian translation and confirm that it is entirely true to the best of my knowledge and belief.” In other words, it can contain hearsay and other things he believes but doesn’t know. The affidavit is not testimony under oath where one can be questioned by opposing counsel.
Spanky, this entire subthread will likely be removed by Darren because you’ve copied a copyrighted article in excess of fair use.
Also, it’s funny that you’re copying a 2 y.o. article about a suit from Shokin but can’t be bothered to see what happened with Shokin’s suit.
If this keeps up even the media Idiocracy will have trouble concealing the Bidens’ corruption.
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Last night, the RNC Resolutions Committee voted unanimously in favor of forwarding to the full RNC a resolution to censure Republican Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. The RNC will vote on it today. According to The Hill, “The resolution criticizes Cheney’s and Kinzinger’s involvement in the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.”
Will Turley comment on this censure resolution?
Cheney’s response:
“The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy. I’m a constitutional conservative and I do not recognize those in my party who have abandoned the Constitution to embrace Donald Trump. History will be their judge. I will never stop fighting for our constitutional republic. No matter what.”
Kinzinger’s response:
“I’ve been a member of the Republican Party before Donald Trump entered the field. My values and core beliefs remain the same and have not wavered. I’m a conservative who believes in truth, freedom, and upholding the Constitution of the United States. Rather than focus their efforts on how to help the American people, my fellow Republicans have chosen to censure two lifelong Members of their party for simply upholding their oaths of office. They’ve allowed conspiracies and toxic tribalism [to] hinder their ability to see clear-eyed. My efforts will continue to be focused on standing up for the truth and working to fight the political matrix that’s led us to this point.”
Some other Republicans are condemning it as well:
Sen. Bill Cassidy: “The RNC is censuring Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger because they are trying to find out what happened on January 6th – HUH?”
Sen. Mitt Romney: “Shame falls on a party that would censure persons of conscience, who seek truth in the face of vitriol. Honor attaches to Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for seeking truth even when doing so comes at great personal cost.”
“‘the RNC has yet to condemn those who participated in the riot,’ committee member Bill Palatucci of New Jersey, who was in the room when the resolution passed, told The Hill. ‘The censure…is just a distracting sideshow.'”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/592788-rnc-committee-advances-resolution-to-censure-cheney-kinzinger
Piggybacking on Cheney’s comment about Trump being “a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy” …
Chris Krebs (former CISA Director) tweeted on Jan. 30: “In the last 24 hrs the former president: (1) floated pardons for 1/6 defendants, (2) encouraged civil unrest if he’s indicted in GA/NY, (3) once again confirmed he pressured Pence to overturn a lawful election. He’s radicalizing his base to be his personal Brown Shirts.”
Whether or not you agree with Krebs’ conclusion, it’s a fact that last week Trump:
(1) floated pardons for 1/6 defendants [in his rally last week, also making clear that he’s planning to run again]
(2) encouraged civil unrest if he’s indicted in GA/NY [in his rally last week]
(3) confirmed he pressured Pence to overturn a lawful election [in a written statement released on 1/30]
Will Turley condemn any of this?
Will you respond to Professor Turley’s Report instead of deflection? You are part of the problem. Always trying to deflect from Professor’s Turley’s Blog by “whatabout them.” Either respond to Professor Turley’s Blog or create you own or just move on.
Or I can write comments here, and Turley can remove them if *he* wishes.
Yes, I’m asking Turley to write about issues that (a) fall within the category of issues he’s made clear he cares about and (b) I believe to be important.
As for your desire that I comment on the column, sure, I’ll quote a few things from the column and respond:
“[Democrats] appear universally silent on his email (which must have been known to the impeachment committee staff)”
There is no reason to assume that the email was “known to the impeachment committee staff.” But you know who *should have* known about it? Trump’s lawyers. For goodness sake, it was an email sent within the State Dept., which is an executive branch department. Trump’s lawyers were not particularly skilled in their work.
“President Biden once bragged how he got the lead prosecutor fired in the Ukraine because of his concerns about corruption. However, around that time, his son was, according to this email, actively undermining the anti-corruption efforts with his raw influence peddling.”
Yes, Biden wanted Shokin fired even though that would increase the likelihood of Burisma being investigated. That is a good thing.
an email sent within the State Dept., which is an executive branch department. Trump’s lawyers were not particularly skilled in their work.
Great. Now explain how there were 6 congressional investigations into Bengahzi before Clinton’s wifes emails were discovered? The committees asked for all communications and got very little.
All lawyers can do is request. If the request is refused, no repercussions. Bengahzi proved that. State Dept refused to respond and nobody got fired.
Joe Biden wanted Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin fired because Shokin was actively investigating Burisma Holding Limited, and it’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, because Zlochevsky illegally approved oil and gas drilling permits for Burisma when serving as Ukraine’s Ecology and Natural Resources Minister.
Biden later bragged, on camera, about getting Shokin fired to a CFR gathering by threatening Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, telling him that he (Biden) would withhold a billion dollars of financial aid to Ukraine if Poroshenko did not fire Shokin before Biden left the Ukraine later that day…
No, Shokin was NOT “actively investigating Burisma Holding Limited, and it’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky.” His failure to investigate is one of the reasons he was fired.
Here is George Kent’s deposition under oath:
“Viktor Shokin served as prosecutor general of Ukraine from, I believe his appointment date was February 10th, 2015, until sometime of the spring, perhaps late February, early March 2016. … There was a broad-based consensus that he was a
typical Ukraine prosecutor who lived a lifestyle far in excess of his government salary, who never prosecuted anybody known for having committed a crime, and having covered up crimes that were known to have been committed.”
“[Shokin] eventually managed to force out everybody associated with that, including the deputy head of the security service, the intel service, who had provided the wiretapping coverage. It was absolute warfare protecting his associate, and he destroyed the inspector general unit that we’d been standing up. So then that was the wasting of U.S. taxpayer resources, and so that is the reason why the IMF, the U.S., and the European Union said collectively: the justice sector and the prosecutor is so important for the success of this country and it’s so important to reform it that Victor Shokin has shown that he’s actively wasting U. S. taxpayer dollars and he’s preventing reform.”
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/CPRT-116-IG00-D009.pdf
As we are now finding out prior statements by Kent and the Ambassador weren’t honest in terms of seeking the truth. We have to look at the private correspondence not meant for public consumption.
Anything that lays waste to, and breaks the back of the permanent professional ruling class is a step in the right direction. Governance is not a career, particularly by multi-generational legacies.
Pardons are in those constitutional plenary powers. A person elected by the people, discussing his thoughts on exercising powers that are not subject oto review, is exactly the honesthy voters seek from their elected representatives.
Encouraging civil unrest. After Democrats encouraged rioter to burn down cities. VP Harris said their election would not stop the violence, “nor should it” While donating to the bail funds, assuring those perpetrating the violence would be back on the street to continue the destruction of minority owned business.
The Vice President MUST approve the EC slate of electors. Again, plenary powers to ignore that approval. You can call it a work around to buy time like the Rent moratorium. We know that is nothing but using what the system allows
Trump isn’t President. He has no plenary powers.
He is dangling pardons should he be reelected. Dangling pardons is NOT part of anyone’s plenary powers.
I’m baffled by your response to item #2. You’re arguing that Democrats have also done this, so that makes it OK. Has it occurred to you to condemn it regardless of whether it comes from the left or right?
As for item #3, Trump wrote “Democrats and RINO Republicans … are desperately trying to pass legislation that will not allow the Vice President to change the results of the election… Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome… Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!”
I would hope that we could all agree that Pence did NOT have the legal power “to change the results of the election” and that we’d all condemn an effort to “overturn[] the Election.”
Your claim that “The Vice President MUST approve the EC slate of electors” is false. Here’s the actual text of the Electoral Count Act:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15
He presides over the count. He opens the certificates of the electoral votes. He announces the vote. He calls for objections. He does NOT personally “approve the EC slate of electors.” Your choice to about this is unpatriotic.
He is dangling pardons should he be reelected. Dangling pardons is NOT part of anyone’s plenary powers. a p
Of course a person running for President can speak of the power of the office, and if he might exercise those powers. No law controls. The power to pardon can be controversial. By discussing using those power could be a big negative in the mind of voters. Being open and honest allows citizens to vote their conscience. Why you are so nuts, is the fear that people know this J6 thing is nothing but politics. You fear the people will vote for the President to right the wrongs being done by a corrupt Department of Justice. Locking up DC protestors with no bail, while the same DoJ is dropping charges on the rioters that have caused $billions in damages.
“Why you are so nuts” is that you pretend to read my mind.
“He is dangling pardons should he be reelected. Dangling pardons is NOT part of anyone’s plenary powers.“
What Trump is actually doing is telling everyone that most of the arrests made Jan 6 did not follow the rule of law. Trump follows the rule of law so he will pardon those abused by fascist democrats.
Mike Pence, speaking at a Federalist Society gathering in Florida today:
“President Trump is wrong: I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.”
Will Turley join Pence in calling Trump out for falsely and unpatriotically insisting that “Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome… Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!”
It is *not* unfortunate that Pence chose to uphold his oath to the Constitution. Quite the opposite.
We should take note that individual conservatives adhere to the law while Liberals in lockstep will violate them. Pence and Trump disagree. That is a good sign and much better when a Party will follow a leader off the cliff.
I don’t agree with Trump but in the end nothing wrong was done by anyone. I can understand Trump. The Democrats cheated to win an election so in his mind the electors were aiding and abetting lawlessness.
Anonymous asks:
“Will Turley condemn any of this?”
Good question. My guess is
CRICKETS.
No mention on Fox Prime time so it stands to reason that Turley will not. Of course, we know where Turley stands. He just self-censors to stay in the good graces of Fox News.
To his credit, he did bring up the Vindman lawsuit as he did when Fox News was sued for defamation though he gave no analysis of the merits of the latter. Turley can’t ignore all the news events that his prime time Fox colleagues do. He has to maintain a semblance of credibility. His hypocrisy is manifest however. He NEVER criticizes his Fox network for ignoring stories, e.g., all the damning revelations being brought to light by the 1/6 committee.
As I have said many times, the conspiracies (Russiagate, 25th Amendment, Ukraine, Covid-19)against a duly elected sitting President, President Trump, is bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger.
In Watergate, at least there were a couple of honest people involved at Justice, CIA and the FBI. In the collusion and conspiracy of almost every government agencies against President Trump the hate trumped the honesty. Hate is the best motivator for good people to do bad things i.e. Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Pelosi among others. Were these government agencies afraid of having their cover blown on other matters if President Trump had four or eight years of a presidency not consumed with defending the election, the Russia issue, the Ukraine issue,
The lack of interest in Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton’s emails, Jeffrey Epstein’s contacts with the Clinton’s, the Obama White House operations, Fast and Furious, Congressmen and Women getting rich from stick trades i.e. Burr and Pelosi and others, and many others baffle the hell out of me. Where is the press and where are those “investigative journalists,” the “gallant public servants” who go to the press to save “we the people” from a corrupt government. When you have no fear of getting caught for doing illegal and unethical things, you have no moral compass. This is not a political issue.
Will you respond to Professor Turley’s Report instead of deflection? You are part of the problem. Always trying to deflect from Professor’s Turley’s Blog by “whatabout them.” Either respond to Professor Turley’s Blog or create you own or just move on.
I did respond. The attempt to remove a sitting US President was a conspiracy so deep it touches Russian, Ukraine, Hunter Biden/Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Pelosi et al.
Yes, I responded to the Blog. Maybe if I wore your glasses it would appear all is OK. It is not. If everything was known about Hunter Biden/Joe Biden, would President Biden have won the election? NO.
At the present, I would take a personally flawed President Trump over a corrupt, insecure, cognitively challenged,bumbling President Biden.
Special K,
By “flawed,” I take you to mean that Trump is a chronic and habitual liar. I agree.
Re: the “newly-released email:” The ability of the human species to intuitively, instinctively, viscerally “smell out” things (and the subsequent “cognitive dissonance” that follows) is amazing. Too bad it takes years later to catch up with us. (Perhaps because we are born with noses,
and we are fighting inanimate objects like paper, pen, computer, telephone, “confidential” and “X” classifications, and payoff.) Bravo to those who keep scratching until something comes up….
Lin: like anything that is found out will result in accountability? Oh, now the corruption will stop? Hunter has a backup plan that gets little scrutiny now. Did you hear he’s quite the artist?
Randy: Of course you are correct, -and the delay is always intentional, to decrease interest in the story AND accountability (but increase subtle/impalpable corruption). Re: your clever twist on Hunter being quite the artist: do you think we should buy his paintings and scrape off the paint to see what was on the original canvas?
Face it folks, we have a corrupt president. Biden and his family have made millions by corruption.
Does anyone remember the hysteria when questions were raised about obama’s birth certificate. How just “so far out of the question” it was called that ANY government official would do something so unethical? Now we have Hillary’s emails, Benghazzi, Hunter’s laptops, all this FBI misuse of power, and a CEO of the nation in evident need of some elder care staring us in the face and we still have doubts about government corruption? Are we really that naive?
It’s all a house of cards dealt by the DNC and the Mainstream (Corrupt Media). Better left unsaid what could happen next. We are a nation of laws. I hope we keep it that way but we are seeing dangerous actions repeatedly that flout the law and the constitution and with no shame about it.
The American public was scammed by corruption in the MSM and government bureaucrats to hate a legally elected president. They feared the outsider would expose them but they let that fear expose themselves. We can only hope that the Republicans can keep ahead of another manipulation of the coming election. There are Rhinos that should be sent packing as well.
Maybe they failed to follow proper State Dept protocol?
That would be to get some low level flunky, with tenous conection to the Trump campaign to mention something in passing to a diplomat on foreign soil during a boozy night out on the town, concerning Hunter Biden. That would trigger the foreign diplomat to send a diplomatic wire to the State Dept, that would then use back channels to tell the FBI, that would then launch a conter-intel investigations, complete with doctored Woods file documents, to get FISA warrants to spy on citizens in the US
Good Govt is all about proper procedure.
If you have any doubts.
Read”Red Handed”.
Just started it today!!! Wow!
Well researched. Shocking.
Not with the specter of an more than incapable VP as the scary harridan. You will know something is very wrong when we see a resignation and Poke and Haunt Us suddenly surfaces. No point trading incapable for more than capable but of what and at what price?
As one of the star witnesses against President Trump at the impeachment hearing, I do not recall hearing George Kent say or reading any report that he said Hunter Biden was undercutting anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine and that he wanted the Vice-President to get him to stop it. What I remember hearing was that President Trump was using his position to get the Ukraine President unlawfully to investigate Biden and his son purely for political reasons. As with most other things, it turns out that President Trump was justified (especially under our treaty with Ukraine) in making the request. Without intending any pun, it has amazed me over the years how democrats’ and the media’s hatred of President Trump trumped standards of honesty and fairness every time.
Kent did say in the impeachment hearings that Hunter Biden’s position on the Board risked creating an appearance of conflict of interest, but did not say directly that it undercut US anti-corruption efforts as he did in this email. It is bizarre that he would consider asking a Blue Star representative to raise this issue with Hunter Biden rather than elevating it himself to higher levels in the USG.
The failure to disclose this email either in the impeachment hearings or trial, or in response to FOIA requests, is extraordinary.
Daniel,
It *was* released in response to a FOIA request.
As for the State Dept. releasing it during the impeachment proceedings, did Trump’s lawyers ask the State Dept. for all relevant communications? Turley seems to assume that it was in the possession of the House, but I don’t see any reason to assume this.
According to the JTN article linked to in Turley’s article the State Department failed to identify this email pursuant to “multiple” relevant FOIA requests JTN made.
Yes, that’s what they say. Yet JTN doesn’t link to or provide the text of any of their previous FOIA requests, so we can’t see whether the email actually would have been relevant to any previous requests.
Do you have links to the previous requests?
This is the type of nonsense ATS plays. JTN provides information not previously known and now ATS wants them to provide all of their information. For the most part they have in other reports. You will have to read more carefully, ATS.
Daniel: Empatico. So amusing that Anonymous-plant always has to get in the last word, -and with combative verbosity and challenges for “evidence” (if not copy-catting words and outlines). I believe that your (and my, and several others’) substantive comments will prevail, because we are not paid by the word, by the hour, by the posts… but by our mutual respect for engaging in good debate and exchange.(I do not expect a response from you.)
The failure to disclose this email either in the impeachment hearings or trial, or in response to FOIA requests, is extraordinary. proof of corruption
In what way is this email relevant to Trump’s attempt to illegally pressure a foreign government into investigating a political rival in the US?
If Biden did something illegal, he should have been investigated by the DOJ.
Absolutely nothing prevented Barr — Trump’s AG — from investigating Biden if he thought Biden had done something illegal while VP.
Trump didn’t weaponize the DOJ, IC or the IRS like Obama-Biden did on a regular basis. The illegal FISA warrants were against Trump or people surrounding him.
ATS, why do you get everything wrong?
No, Trump was NOT “justified … in making the request” to Zelensky.
It is wholly inappropriate for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate that President’s political rival and attempt to hold up unrelated foreign aid as leverage in getting that foreign government to do so.
If Trump had evidence that Biden did something illegal, the correct action is to submit his evidence to the DOJ.
If Trump had evidence that Biden did something illegal, the correct action is to submit his evidence to the DOJ.
He was asking the Govt to turn over such evidence. The President of the United States is with in his power to seek such help. Especially when he has been battling a corrupt DoJ pursuing phony Russia Collusion stories.
How corrupt?
FBI Agent Kujtim Sadiku admitted last week in an ongoing trial in Knoxville that federal agents:
Falsely accused former UTK associate professor Dr. Anming Hu of being a Chinese spy.
Falsely implicated him as an operative for the Chinese military in meetings with Hu’s bosses
Used false information to put Hu on the federal no-fly list.
Spurred U.S. customs agents to seize Hu’s computer and phone and spread word throughout the international research community that Hu was poison.
Used false information to justify putting a team of agents to spy on Hu and his son, a freshman at UTK, for nearly two years.
Used false information to press Hu to become a spy for the U.S. government.
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/
Face the fact. President Donal J Trump is far more honorable than the DoJ. He has done the people of the United States a huge service by exposing the institutional rot of the DoJ and multiple other Cabinet level institutions.
No, it’s ILLEGAL for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate a political rival.
Ellen Weintraub (Federal Elections Commission): “On “things of value” @FEC: “Indeed, the Commission has recognized the ‘broad scope’ of the foreign national contribution prohibition and found that even where the value of a good or service ‘may be nominal or difficult to ascertain,’ such contributions are nevertheless banned.””
As for “Face the fact. President Donal J Trump is far more honorable than the DoJ,” you should learn the difference between facts and opinions. Your claim is your opinion. It is NOT a fact. My opinion is that Trump is a pathological liar and an epic con artist. I hope he will face charges for some of his illegal acts.
“No, it’s ILLEGAL for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate a political rival.”
Trump never asked a foreign government to investigate political rivals. That is something we expect from Obama/Biden. Trump with good justification was asking them to investigate corruption.
Commission has recognized the ‘broad scope’ of the foreign national contribution prohibition and found that even where the value of a good or service ‘may be nominal or difficult to ascertain,’ such contributions are nevertheless banned.”</
The FEC has no power to interfere with the President of the United States, carrying out his constitutional powers.
<i attempt to hold up unrelated foreign aid as leverage in getting that foreign government to do so.
The aid in question is conditioned on Ukraine actively preventing corruption in the distribution of said aid. The appropiate US govt depts had cleared those conditions to disperse the aide. The President of the United States ordered they redo their assessment. AGAIN…well within the power of the Office
(we will continue to ignore the threat posed by VP Biden to withhold aide…or else….aide would be blocked)
The media of a certain leaning to the opposite side of correct is looking more and more than biased these days.
In about 5 minutes Anonymous, Natacha and JeffSilberman will say something using the words Trump and Fox News. Meanwhile we have an incompetent, addled, corrupt, lying, bitter old man driving the country into the ground.
PS. Has anyone noticed how feeble Biden is looking lately? I remember when the media (CNN, MSNBC et al) would bring on “doctors” to claim that we need to have the 25th Amendment invoked to remove Trump from the WH. Now we have an obvious dementia patient in charge and they tell us everything is fine????
hullbobby – notice how they all come at once? Sock puppet’s. Regarding the PINO, I predicted the other day with the Carnack Envelope he will probably be hospitalized in 3rd month of 2023. Notice how the wife stands by to assist him off the podium?
Thank you for your good sarcasm saying “the wife” and not “Doctor Jill”!!!!
lin – yes, yes, maybe Dr Jill is part of the science Dr Fauci claims he IS?