Report: Diplomat Complained that Hunter Biden was Undercutting Anti-Corruption Efforts in Ukraine

It may be time for Joe Biden and the media to go out for another ice cream scoop. Hunter Biden is back in the news in a big way.

A newly released email from the State Department shows that former U.S. embassy official George Kent raised concerns about how Hunter Biden’s influence peddling would “undercut” anti-corruption efforts in the Ukraine. The email contradicts President Joe Biden’s repeated assurances that no one has accused his family of doing anything wrong as well as his claims as a key figure in anti-corruption efforts in the Ukraine.

President Biden once bragged how he got the lead prosecutor fired in the Ukraine because of his concerns about corruption. However, around that time, his son was, according to this email, actively undermining the anti-corruption efforts with his raw influence peddling.

The email, obtained by Just the News, dates from Nov. 22, 2016, when former U.S. embassy official George Kent raised concerns over Hunter Biden’s Ukraine dealings with former Ukrainian natural resources minister and Burisma Holdings founder Mykola Zlochevsky.

Kent was lionized by Democrats during the Trump impeachment but they appear universally silent on his email (which must have been known to the impeachment committee staff).

Notably, Kent said in his email that someone in Washington needed to engage then-Vice President Biden about how his son is “undercut[ting] the anti-corruption message the VP and we were advancing in Ukraine.” So why would Hunter Biden’s efforts “undercut the anti-corruption message” other than being a form of corruption?

The release raises a number of tough questions.  First, did anyone raise the matter with Joe Biden and, if not, why? Kent states that Sally Painter was tasked with the raising issue on Hunter, but that he never heard back from her. Painter serves as the Chief Operating Officer of Washington, D.C. consultancy firm Blue Star Strategy.

Second, this is only classified at the “confidential” level, so why was it not disclosed earlier? The recipients of the email included Jorgan K. Andrews, then-Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, and then-U.S. Ambassador to Kyiv Marie Yovanovitch. It was Yovanovitch who reportedly xclassified the email. Why?

Once again, while the New York Times recently sued to get the Biden Administration to turn over material related to Romania, the level of success of the Biden team and the media had in burying this scandal is breathtaking. To this day, most of the media remains invested in maintaining the narrative that this was really not a story worth focusing on before or after the election.

182 thoughts on “Report: Diplomat Complained that Hunter Biden was Undercutting Anti-Corruption Efforts in Ukraine”

  1. Honourable, what are the consequences for Hunter Biden for undercutting anti-corruption efforts in the Ukraine more than five years ago?

  2. Yesterday, I started reading “Red Handed: How the Elites Get Rich Helping China Win.” Amazing!

    The 352 page book has 81 pages of primary sources, 1093 end notes, no anonymous sources. Author and researcher Peter Schweizer said that it was the scariest book he has ever researched.

    My jaw dropped as I began and it is non-stop from there. The deep corruption goes far beyond the Biden family, but the case he makes of their involvement with the CCP is stunning, far beyond the headlines. The corruption crosses both isles.

    The extensive corporate and government corruption is a deep and should concern every citizen regardless of party affliction.

    1. E.M. I fear the American Experiment will crash. I guess they all do in time. In a perfect world it would survive, but as the Bible says: “The love of money is the root of all evil.” And here we are, corruption beyond our wildest imagination, and from both sides of the aisle. Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, the Clintons, the Obamas: all have enriched themselves at the expense of America.

      1. Randy,
        It pains me to even think about it. There are those in power in government who are on both sides of the political spectrum who appear to put themselves before the interests of the citizens of the United States. There must be something incredibly addictive about this kind of raw power that they would sell out their countrymen and their nation. For what? Do they not realize that they are at the jumping off place?

        The great equalizer will occur when they come to the end of their carnal lives and will not take anything with them but their shriveled souls.

        I recently read this, “Do not be afraid when one becomes rich, when the glory of his house is increased. For when he dies he shall carry nothing away; his glory shall not descend after him.” Psalm 49:16-17

        Every human, rich or poor, of every race, of every station in life will depart this life equally, naked and alone.

  3. Thinkitthrough, it is ironic that you note “some biases are based in truth and some are not.” Yours is not. Thank you for showing us that after being given a counterexample to your false belief, you’re choosing to stick with your false belief.

  4. Anonymous says:

    “Because he’s a Fox regular, Turley can’t criticize Trump without being labeled a ‘traitor’ by Trump’s base.”

    Turley has criticized Trump plenty! He has called him an “absurd reality television star” and a “carnival snake charmer.” The first insult implies that Trump is a joke, and the second insinuates that he is a BS artist.

    You can’t take back those take-downs. They are too demeaning; they are unforgivable. If only Trump knew what Turley had said about him! Can you imagine what Trump would say about Turley?

    Just ONE word from Trump, and Turley is dead to the Trumpists.

    Am I right? You know I am.

    1. “Just ONE word from Trump, and Turley is dead to the Trumpists. Am I right? You know I am.”

      Totally wrong.

      Dunk the fool.

  5. Turley Trumpers Whine About ‘Deflections’

    I don’t recall that rightwing media featuring Hunter Biden when his father was Vice President. Back then, Fox News was totally focused on Hillary Clinton.

    Fox News, in fact, flogged Benghazi to such an extent that the name became a joke to liberals. Eventually Benghazi morphed into Hillary’s emails. Fox stayed on the story with stubborn tenacity. “But her emails– became a sarcastic catch-phrase to non-Fox viewers.

    Fox News, however, wasn’t featuring Hunter Biden, as a major scandal, during the Obama years.

    From 2016-2018 Republicans controlled the White House and Congress. Yet there were no congressional investigations concerning Hunter Biden. Nor was rightwing media focused on Hunter Biden.

    Hunter Biden didn’t break wide as a news story until Trump’s first impeachment in February of 2020. And then we heard it in the context of Trump wanting a favor from Ukraine’s President Zelensky. Trump asked Zelensky to work with Rudolph Guiliani regarding Hunter Biden.

    Here we must stop and ask, “Why Guilliani?” Rudy, one should note, held no position in government. And he wasn’t listed by the State Department as a U.S. Envoy. From a legal perspective that’s important to note.

    Rudy had no proper credentials to present in Ukraine. Even Zelenksy, a political novice, sensed an uncool plot.
    Zelensky scarcely wished to involve himself in domestic U.S. politics.

    So here we are 2 years after Trump’s first impeachment. And Trump is making headlines every day as a disgruntled ex-president. Claiming over and over his defeat was a vast conspiracy.

    Last weekend, at a rally in Texas, Trump signaled he would pardon the January 6th rioters. Trump went on to invite riots in New York and Atlanta where local prosecutors have opened cases against him.

    Trump then asserted, falsely, that former VP Pence could have rejected certification of the 2020 election. Trump even discouraged Republicans from reforming the Electoral Count Act.

    These are all extraordinary headlines! No living American ever saw this spectacle. ‘A disgruntled ex-president holding rallies to air his grievances and issue public threats’.

    Trump’s antics should be a subject of fascination to Constitutional Scholars. So why would Johnathan Turley not be interested??

    Turley’s a tenured professor teaching Constitutional Law in the heart of Washington. How peculiar he writes no columns on Donald Trump.

    Instead Turley tells us Hunter Biden is trending as the next biggest story. Like mainstream news consumers will be clicking on ‘Hunter Biden’ while forgetting Donald Trump.

    Trump can’t be forgotten because he never shuts up. So Professor Turley can either acknowledge Trump’s antics, or pretend the former president quietly retired. And that’s how it looks: ‘Turley pretends Donald Trump quietly retired’.

    1. Epstein’s second rule of Democrat behavior- When in doubt, always fall back on the Four D’s: Deny. Deflect. Dissemble. Democrat.

    2. It’s called the “Fox News effect.” I don’t disagree with Turley that the MSM is ignoring the Hunter Biden story. Let’s face it- each network panders to their audience- why deny it. It’s unfortunate but that’s the way it is. Nothing personal; it’s business.

      Turley has signed on to team Fox. It’s no secret. He’s under contract. He criticizes Fox’s media competitors on the Left. That’s the job! What’s peculiar is that he ignores Fox’s media competitors to the Right of Fox!

      What do him expect him to do? Bite the hand that feeds him?

    3. “Trump is making headlines every day as a disgruntled ex-president. Claiming over and over his defeat was a vast conspiracy.”

      This demonstrates that Anonymous cannot post a cogent reply and instead prefers to go from item to item without saying much of anything. There is a big void in the understanding of Anonymous as to what constitutes the news. Headlines are created mainly by the left-wing press. That is where the excitement is, even if the articles are boring and untrue. Trump’s name lights up any discussion. He rightfully will not change his opinion that the 2020 election was lawless. The left-wing papers will keep using those statements in their headlines. Some are too dumb to see that Hillary still complains that she won the 2016 election when so much lawlessness didn’t exist. The newspapers do not use that as a headline every time she makes such a comment. Hillary is boring. Trump is not.

      1. Whether your hero lost in 2020 is not something subject to an opinion. It is a FACT that Trump lost. His lie about his vainglorious “landslide victory” being stolen began long before Election Day because all polls predicted he would lose, which he did. Nevertheless, he took a victory lap at 2:00 a.m. the morning after Election Day. He’s done everything possible to try to breathe life into the Big Lie, but his efforts have failed because he DID lose. You dismiss the serious damage this malignant narcissist has done to the faith of American voters in their election systems by dismissing the Big Lie as “rightful”, and based on “lawlesness”, which is simply another lie. Let’s start with: where’s the proof of lawlessness? The only lawlessness that has come to light are Trump’s efforts to bully state election officials into stealing or discarding valid votes cast for Biden by “finding” votes for him, and for fake Trump “electors” sending forged Electoral College certificates to Congress declaring that Trump won in several swing states. BTW: it is a crime to use a state seal to create forged or fake “official” documents, which these fake “certificates” are, and these people will be prosecuted. I hope they do a long stretch in prison.

        How many recounts, re-recounts, lost lawsuits based on nothing but lies, disgraced and suspended attorneys and phony “forensic audits” that flopped does it take to convince you? Why don’t you believe Chris Krebs, Trump’s own head of cybersecurity, who said that the 2020 election was the “most secure” in US History? Why won’t you believe Bill Barr when he said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud? Why won’t you believe 50 Secretaries of State, 26 of whom were Republican, who certified the fact that Trump lost? You say it is “exciting” to hear Trump lie over and over again, and you apparently beleive that the Jan 6th insurrectionists were engaged in “legitimate political discourse” based on nothing: no facts, and all proof establishes that Trump lost, fair and square. You are no patriot. You are also very delusional and have been misled. The depth of your devotion to this complete failure of a person is truly shocking, but, nevertheless, supply me with facts to support your claim of “lawlesness”. Prove me wrong when I say that you Trumpsters are immune to facts.

        Hillary does not complain that she won in 2016, even though she did win the popular vote. Hillary has been the model of grace, dignity and patriotism, willingly conceding, despite the fact that Trump colluded with Russian hackers to steal away her rightful victory as our first female President by spreading lies about her on social media. Even a Republican-led Senate Committee agrees this happened, along with Dan Coats, head of US Intelligence Agencies. Trump is a boorish, fat, fop with a massive ego who just refuses to accept defeat when he doesn’t get his own way. Every day, there’s yet another scandal that proves just how low, evil and unpatriotic he is, including stealing presidential papers and tearing up documents in violation of the Presidential Records Act. There’s nothing “left-wing” about reporting the truth about Trump, which does make him look bad because he IS bad.

        1. “Whether your hero lost in 2020 is not something subject to an opinion. It is a FACT that”

          We could discuss this if only you knew what the words under discussion meant. You don’t, so there is no room for discussion. To you, facts are transient and last only as long as convenient.

  6. This Turkey article is about itShay that is not really itShay.
    Except it’s itShay on Turleys ouYay
    Piglatin is important to my comment here.
    This article smells like sh__.

  7. Man, when you are a Democrat and have The New York Times suing to get information about your corruption it’s time to book an unchartered fishing boat to a small not even on the map town somewhere on the coast of Venezuela. Hunter will be all right. They have good crack in Venezuela.

  8. We have posters on this blog who share a common tactic. When evidence of the corruption of the President’s son becomes more and more apparent they use a tactic known as deflection. You would think, being so virtuous and all, they would welcome any exposure of corruption. But alas, they are too psychologically invested in their loosely composed personal political platform to make an unbiased analysis of the subject at hand. Rage: it is pure and absolute without the burden of reason or recognition. It’s not hard to recognize when you see it.

    1. Thinkitthrough: really like your sentence about rage. You could give author Eric Hoffer a run for his money (except I don’t think he’s alive anymore, as I read his stuff 20+ years ago, but someone recently brought him up.)

      1. Thanks Lin, but I can’t take credit for the rage definition. I read it somewhere but I Googled it and I can’t find who said it so I can’t give a proper attribution. I did find it compelling enough to make a note of it so as to use in just such a time as this. I make an apology for overlooking the author but I make no apology for presenting the application in consideration of the writings of some of our fellow bloggers.

        1. LOL.

          The author you overlooked is Jonathan Turley: “that is the liberating quality of rage: It is pure and absolute without the burden of reason or recognition.” (originally printed in The Hill and reprinted on this blog — the column was about Sen. Sinema)

          If you were unable to find it, then you need to work on your search skills.

          1. Anonymous, LOL. Was Professor Turley quoting someone else or was the thought originally his? My attempt at making an attribution was not successful because I was not able to find out who the original author is. Perhaps you could address the subject of the statement rather than my inability to find it’s source. We would find a curiosity about the subject of the content much more interesting than a comment about the presenters ability to source the material. However, we do expect your common response.

            1. You said “I can’t find who said it so I can’t give a proper attribution.”

              Now you can give a proper attribution.

              You’re welcome.

    2. Thinkitthrough,

      Among my comments on this column:
      “I condemn corruption.”
      “I’d love for Congress to make influence peddling illegal.”
      “No, Natacha, it [Kent’s email] is NOT “nothing.” It’s something. Deal with it honestly. It’s certainly not enough to show that Joe Biden was influenced by it, but society doesn’t benefit pretending that it’s “nothing.” It’s a fact that Kent said what he said. I’m liberal. I wish everyone — left, right, and center — would commit to dealing truthfully with all evidence.”

      Am I one of the people you’re talking about?

      1. Anonymous, are you a Libertarian or a Democrat. Your statement lends itself more to the Libertarian side than the Democratic side. If your a Libertarian my comments may not apply to you but if your a Democrat you are indeed who I am talking about. A simple statement about Hunter being involved in corruption would suffice to let us know where you stand. I’m sure your comment will be interesting.

        1. If your assessment depends on my party affiliation and not on my actual views, then you out yourself as a biased assessor.

          You say “You would think … they would welcome any exposure of corruption,” and I do welcome any exposure of corruption. Biden, Trump, and everyone else: no one should be above the law.

          1. Anonymous, Libertarians say there is corruption on both sides. Democrats say that only Republicans are corrupt. Perhaps if you are a Democrat you should consider evaluating the Libertarian positions to see if they are more aligned with yours. Don’t be afraid. There are lots of Democrats who are switching to Libertarians right now because they think like you. As to my bias, we all our biased but some biases are based in truth and some are not. It’s not hard to change your party affiliation in order to be a member of a party that is more in line with your belief system as you have explained it herein.

  9. To all that read this great blog: I’ve noticed, in the last several months, a precipitous increase/escalation in the number of commenters and anonymice who attempt to discredit and disparage the good Professor, -all while breathlessly checking out his column/blog every day and anxiously challenging various other commenters. This seems to parallel efforts happening across our country, -especially with my anathema–media. I would like to personally thank all of you for your good, thought-provoking comments that make me consider what you proffer and make me a better person for having reasoned through what you propose. End of comment. Yours truly, lin.

    1. Lin,

      You are apparently a very gracious lady but are also, if crossed, a lady with teeth. Maybe it is a southern thing, but I like that in a lady, I am sure that I am not alone in believing that your contributions are most welcomed.

  10. We now have proof that all A Nonny Mice are idiots.
    Can’t even clean up their own drewl…

    1. (David B. Benson: sorry,- wasn’t trying to copy your “A Nonny Mice” reference with my post- I did not see yours, as I was looking up the accepted form of the plural for “anonymous” when used as a noun, and “anonymice” popped up, which I liked. I should have just waited for your post, then written mine in response to yours, ha ha!

        1. You are referring to the noun “anonymity”‘ I looked up the plural form of “anonymous” as a noun They are completely different words as nouns. THIS is where I saw it:You can look it up yourself. thanks

          anonymity
          (uncountable) The quality or state of being anonymous; anonymousness.
          (countable) That which is anonymous.
          Synonyms:
          namelessness, facelessness, nowhere, nowheresville, obscurity, silence, innominateness, anonymousness, concealment, inconspicuousness, invisibility, privacy, secrecy, unrecognizability, unimportance, insignificance, oblivion, irrelevance, inconsequence, ingloriousness, twilight, limbo, lack of recognition, lack of honour, lack of fame, non-recognition, lack of renown, blandness, dullness, indistinctness, ordinariness, characterlessness, unremarkability, unsingularity … more
          Examples:
          “Both mother and daughter have requested anonymity.”
          “The anonymity of the rented room.”
          “It struck a chord with one of the superstore’s workers, who cleaves to anonymity presumably to cleave to her job.”

          anonymouse

          (informal) a person who posts to an online forum, or otherwise distributes information anonymously

          anonymizer

          (Internet) A software tool that attempts to make a user’s Internet activity untraceable by acting as a proxy.

        2. David B. Benson: Who is that guy that invented/patented “Wordle” the new online game craze? (never tried it or looked at it) Maybe we could talk him into coming up with something like Pac-Man or Whack-a-Mole for obnoxious “anonymice” h ha

  11. It’s past time for a special counsel. Garland, if you can’t do your job, then resign.

  12. Hunter Biden and his BLM friends are partying like it is 1999

    😅

    “Hard to watch others live my dream: The leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement have come up with incredible ways to use all the money those kind and hopeful people gave them, $5 at a time for black lives, plus big corporate donations. Did they share it all in a transparent way with the families of people killed unjustly by police? Oh god no. They bought an awesome party house

    Under Patrisse Cullors, the head of the BLM Global Network who has since resigned amid a scandal that she bought several homes, a transfer of money was reportedly made from BLM to Cullors’ wife’s philanthropy, which then spent $6.3 million on a fantastic mansion in Toronto. They’re calling it Wildseed, “a transfeminist, queer affirming space politically aligned with supporting Black liberation,” which is a lot of words for party house. Indiana’s attorney general called BLM a “scam” organization, and California’s Department of Justice has sent a warning letter to the organization for failing to submit the proper nonprofit forms for 2020 – BLM is now banned from soliciting more donations in the state. Even New York Magazine is begrudgingly looking into some BLM financial irregularities this week. At some point a scam crosses into such a brazen offensive territory, you have to just have to applaud the chutzpah.

    BLM is the Theranos of social justice.”

    https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/tgif-protests-resignations-and-time

  13. Turley Focuses On Hunter Biden Because.. Trump Incriminated Himself Last Weekend

    Donald J. Trump said on Saturday that if elected to a new term as president, he would consider pardoning those prosecuted for attacking the United States Capitol on Jan. 6 last year.

    He also called on his supporters to mount large protests in Atlanta and New York if prosecutors in those cities, who are investigating him and his businesses, took action against him.

    Late Sunday, Mr. Trump issued a statement denouncing a bipartisan effort to rewrite the Electoral Count Act of 1887, a century-old law that the former president and his allies misinterpreted in their failed effort to persuade his vice president, Mike Pence, to throw out legitimate election results.

    “Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome, and they now want to take that right away,” Mr. Trump said. “Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the election!”

    Edited From:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/us/politics/trump-speech-texas.html
    ……………………………………………………………………

    All throughout this past year, Professor Turley has maintained that January 6th was ‘not’ an insurrection. But these statements, by Trump last weekend, confirms that an insurrection continues to this day.

    Trump signals he will pardon individuals rioting on his behalf while calling for large protests in cities where prosecutors are exploring cases against him. Then Trump falsely claims Mike Pence could have refused to certify the 2020 election.

    What’s more, Trump is openly discouraging Republicans from taking part in efforts to reform the Electoral Count Act, a highly flawed piece of legislation Trump had tried to manipulate.

    No wonder Professor Turley wants us focused on Hunter Biden! The January 6th insurrection is still a work-in-progress.

    Yet Trump’s irresponsible statements are a gift to the January 6th Congressional Committee. These statements confirm that January 6th was scarcely the disorganized riot Turley claims it was. To the contrary, Trump and his allies were most definitely trying to overturn an election.

    1. In fact, The National Commission to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol Complex, was convened as a distraction from the Special Counsel, John Durham, Investigation Into Matters Related to Intelligence Activities and Investigations Arising Out of the 2016 Presidential Campaigns.
      ______________________________________________________________________________

      “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

      – Barack Obama
      ______________

      “We will stop him.”

      – Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
      ___________________________________

      “[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”

      – Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
      ___________________________________

      “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”

      – Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
      _________________________________

      The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history.

      The co-conspirators are:

      Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,

      James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,

      James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,

      Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,

      Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,

      Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,

      Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,

      Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,

      Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin et al.

    2. “But these statements, by Trump last weekend, confirms that an insurrection continues to this day.”

      Only an idiot could have written the above post.

      1. REGARDING ABOVE:

        Only an idiot would deny Trump’s statements don’t amount to insurrection.

    3. Anonymous: Missed some of your earlier comments because i mistakenly thought you were the other “Anonymous”. Perhaps you should change your moniker to avoid any confusion. Yes, the “insurrection continues to this day”. And, yes, Turley wants us to focus on Hunter Biden–not the real threats that face the country–like the new laws in red states that outlaw the teaching of CRT that GOP politicians know next to nothing about. That’s censorship in spades but Turley wants us to only focus on conservatives, like Ilya Shapiro at Georgetown. It’s heartening to know others have noticed Turley’s slight of hand. Just today the RNC censored Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for participating in the House investigation of the Jan. insurrection. The RNC says their participation is a “Democrat-led prosecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse”. The RNC, Tucker Carlson and Turley are attempting a revisionist re-write of what we all saw on TV. Turley calls Jan. just a “riot”. Carlson says it was instigated by the FBI. This is like the wife who catches her husband in bed with another woman. The husband asks his wife: “Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” What the RNC and Trump fear is that the House investigation is going to show just how well planned the attack on the Capitol was by Trump, his allies inside Congress and other right-wing groups. It was not spontaneous by “ordinary citizens engaged in political discourse”.

      I have noticed lately that some of my comments critical of Turley’s positions have not been posted. Do you think Turley’s operatives are also engaged in “censorship” of “opposing viewpoints” or are they purely inadvertent? Just curious.

      1. Dennis,

        The only way to deal with an “Anonymous” post is to simply ignore it.

        That eliminates any chance of confusing one from others that post that way.

        If they care not use a unique room name of some kind…..just ignore them.

        We have seen what credibility anonymous sources have had AFTER disclosure determined their lack of veracity or accuracy.

        Why continue down that path….just keep scrolling till you find a post that can be attributed to an individual and not any number of individuals.

        1. Ralph,

          you’re really Estovir and Estovir is the reason no one uses unique names. Whatever name a liberal uses, on this blog, will be smeared with the full consent of Turley himself.

          When Turley writes about free speech, he means ‘free speech for conservatives’.

          1. Anonymous, your presence on this blog is proof that Professor Turley is allowing you to speak. You say that the good Professor only allows free speech for conservatives and yet here you are each and every day espousing your leftist philosophy. Thank you for informing us that you are not a conservative but you are allowed to make your opinions known on this blog. You are indeed being totally victimized. Just like you like it. Wah wah wah. It just makes you feel so virtuous inside when you lay your head on the pillow after a hard day of play on the jungle gym in the elementary school yard.

      2. Dennis, Turley faces a basic conflict of interest.

        Because he’s a Fox regular, Turley can’t criticize Trump without being labeled a ‘traitor’ by Trump’s base.

        So instead Turley is left to gin up bogus scandals or run his paint-by-number columns on free speech.
        ‘Free speech for conservatives’, that is. Liberals are always the oppressors in those now hackneyed columns. But if you’re a Trump defender, what else can you write about?

      3. Dennis,

        I have also noticed that some posts do not go through. I don’t think that it os just you.

      4. Dennis McIntyre — I believe that missing posts are due to software failures, not blog operators.

        “If at first you don’t succeed, …”

          1. Could the response be removed because the person who wrote it couldn’t stop using foul language and was banned?

            Stop hiding behind another poster (Banned?) in an attempt to prove that you are being picked out for your political views. Blame it on your failures and no one else.

      1. Ray,

        I’m a different anonymous commenter than the one who posted the NYT article. I’m the same one who had a brief exchange with you in the “Study: Lockdowns Did Little to Combat Covid Mortality” column about whether the paper’s authors counted mask mandates as a “lockddown.”

        I disagree with you that there’s nothing corrupt in Trump’s statements.

        On Sunday, Trump released a public statement saying “[Democrats and RINO Republicans] are desperately trying to pass legislation that will not allow the Vice President to change the results of the election… Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome… Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!”

        Mike Pence, speaking at a Federalist Society gathering in Florida today:
        “President Trump is wrong: I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.”

        Trump pressured Pence at the time to disobey his oath of office and to act unconstitutionally. I consider Trump’s desire to have Pence unilaterally overturn election results to be corrupt.

        And I’d hope that we’d all condemn an effort to unconstitutionally “overturn[] the Election.” I condemn it.

        I also consider it corrupt for Trump to attempt to dangle pardons if he’s reelected, because dangling pardons is a way of encouraging people who might be able to implicate Trump not to cooperate in a plea deal. Look at some of the people Trump pardoned previously, including Roger Stone and Steve Bannon: he rewarded them for protecting him.

        I don’t agree with a lot of Liz Cheney’s political positions, but I do agree with her statement today that “The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy.”

        1. “I’m a different anonymous commenter than the one who posted the NYT article.”

          Surprisingly, this time ATS is telling the Truth. The NYT post likely came from a poster with many aliases, previously named Peter Shill.

    4. The Electoral count act of 1887 is not the Constitution it was written obviously by the legislature. The legislators could have introduced an amendment to the constitution. The term witness the electoral count means one thing, preside over means control when a judge witnesses a swearing in a president, its ceremony. When a judge presides over a trial He has power and control.

  14. More of Turley’s paid assignment to breathe life into the “Hunter Biden scandal” story, as part of the ReTrumplican effort to deflect away from the daily and shocking revelations of the extent to which Trump, and also, as it turns out, Republican members of Congress, plotted to steal the election from Joe Biden, including seizing voting equipment. Trump was directly involved. All Turley has is an e-mail from a “former” official, and it is dated in 2016. Period. There is no proof of anything alleged in the e-mail, but that’s not the point: the point was to keep the disciples riled up and believing that Democrats are more evil than Republicans, and that Joe Biden and his family are corrupt. Also, to have something for the “hosts” at Fox to talk about other than the successful economy Biden has created, the massive job creations he has accomplished, and the successful raid on a terrorist. And, if you look at the responses from the usual suspects, who believe themselves to be well-informed, it is working!

      1. Anon, thanks for laugh, i have thought the same thing.

        “Must catch moose and squirrel”.

        Haha

    1. Let’s go Brandon!

      The Biden Crime Cartel is not real! Look over there!

      Pelosi’s J6 Committee is a Stalinist show trial, persecuting political enemies, and innocent private citizens, violating their rights, and brazenly lying about it in order to DISTRACT from the abomintion that is the Biden policies that are intentionally harming small businesses and average Americans.

      Democrats are the ones (among other horrific policies) forcing little kids to wear masks all day long when there is NO basis in fact or science for doing so — other than child abuse for the sake of raw power and control.

      The Democrat Party of today is full of truly unethical, immoral, lawless, corrupt, sick people who must never be allowed this kind of power ever again.

    2. The Biden family is very corrupt. Hunter is a drug addict and posted nude pictures with his niece. That doesn’t speak highly of either of them. Do you only watch CNN and MSNBC??

  15. Uh-huh. And I’m sure that this situation of war with Russia has nothing to do with the Biden’s ‘interests’ in the Ukraine. Hunter, the ‘Big guy’, are about to keel over. Will anyone care. Debatable. Try to imagine the absolute depths of depravity required to potentially foment WWIII over some dollars for a personal family. Anyone, anyone at all, that still thinks they are voting for JFK when they vote Dem doesn’t just need a wake up call, but a punch to the face. Maybe two or three, just to make sure. History, and more importantly voters, in the next election in less than a year, will remember. All of it. And know that the mafia that used to be confined to the likes of Al Capone is now a global entity going by the name of elite Progressives. To the truly elite on this earth, someone like Hannah or Kendri are pretty much just another couple of stupid ******s that fill their coffers with money. Stop it. Stop voting dem. Period.

    1. Amen!

      As for gerrymandering…..take a look at New York state!

      “Hey, did you see how Democrats claimed to oppose gerrymandering and then gerrymandered the f*ck out their states anyway?

      Never take these people seriously. Never play nice.

      When you have the power to redistrict go big. Like Dems do. Show no mercy.”

      1. Democrats shouldn’t unilaterally refuse to do something that Republicans are going to continue doing.

        Democrats are willing to constrain all states — including those with Dem. majorities — when it comes to gerrymandering. Republicans are not.

        I dislike gerrymandering. I want it to stop in all states. I favor legislation that constrains it all states.

        How about you: do YOU want it to stop in all states?

        1. I’d like more media attention paid to what Democrats, along with Eric Holder and Barack Obama have been doing with gerrymandering….for years now…

          1. Bob,

            Democrats in the House passed anti-gerrymandering legislation.

            Republicans in the Senate filibustered the bill.

            Unless the Senate Democrats either change the filibuster rules or win a filibuster-proof majority, they cannot bring anti-gerrymandering legislation up for a vote in the Senate, as the Senate Republicans consistently filibuster it.

            1. Anonymous: In the Rucho case (2019), SCOTUS held that partisan gerrymandering was a “nonjusticiable political question.” This set off a frenzy of redistricting- by both Democrat and Republican state legislatures. A Democrat-organized entity known as “UnRig the Map” has been working since 2015 to “target,” i.e., “flip” redistricting maps to their favor. Now that they have control of Congress, they attempted to “nationalize” this effort. Republicans filibustered in order to keep it within the purview of state legislatures. Here is a quote from the Rucho case:

              “Partisan gerrymandering claims rest on an instinct that groups with a certain level of political support should enjoy a commensurate level of political power and influence. Such claims invariably sound in a desire for proportional representation, but the Constitution does not require proportional representation, and federal courts are neither equipped nor authorized to apportion political power as a matter of fairness.”

              1. (sorry I wrote the above post in a style as though I were writing an entry for a Journal entry!)

              2. Lin, thank you for reminding us of the truth and the decision in three words,“nonjusticiable political question.” Those words answer a lot of questions that have been asked.

  16. The Democrats and the Swamp often prevaricate and use diglossia language to camouflage the truth. Their accusations of racial acrimonies and posteriori logic are prime example. They constantly use apocryphal state secret classification and/or patrician principles that use aporia (doubt) or obfuscation of the facts.

    Today subject is enlightening in that this email and most likely more were withheld by the State Department. Are other departments of the Federal Government or Congress holding damning material regarding Hunter Biden? Does this information not cast a dark shadow on Congresses impeachment proceeding of President Trump’s and his conversation with Ukrainian President Zelensky?

    The severe snowy weather in Washington DC is of Mother Nature’s making, but the snow job and cover up by the denizens of DC is not.

  17. We’ve got some fairly intelligent people on this “legal” blog, on both sides of whatever we debate. But all that intelligence gets wasted when JT posts an article with evidence-based government corruption and suddenly we go tribal with some defending the blatantly obvious corruption. Certainly we can debate on policy, but can we not agree that our advocacy should not be in support of government corruption, abuse of constitutional power, or actions that threaten our national security? If you desire some other form of government other than the one our host is defending, then have the courage to say so. And since it’s very easy to use a unique identifier, have the integrity to use one. I don’t want to be part of the problem here, so I will once again try to stick to not engaging those disinterested in being uniquely identified.

    1. One e-mail from a “former” official is not “evidence”. It’s nothing–certainly not “blatantly obvious corruption” and not admissible in a court of law. Do you want to talk about “abuse of constitutional power or actions that threaten our national security”–how about Trump’s efforts to cheat to keep in office despite the will of the American people: lying about his “landslide victory” being “stolen”, “Stop the Steal” rallies, calculated to stir up the faithful to storm the Capitol to prevent the certified votes from being accepted, the plot to seize voting machines, first by trying to bully the DOJ to do it, then trying to get the military to do it, and then trying to get state-level officials to do it. That didn’t work but he then filed dozens of frivolous lawsuits that cost one of his lawyers his law license and others have been sued by voting equipment companies for defamation for lying. He tried to bully Pence into refusing to accept the certified totals, something he has no power to do, and kept exhorting his faithful fans to hope that Pence would “do the right thing”, which Pence did: he proceeded with the ceremonial acceptance of the votes. Then, the ReTrumplicans in Congress who voted against accepting the will of the American people, all for the ego of the worst person ever to cheat his way into office in our history. Hey: Jimmy Kimmel came up with an idea: how about the person who got the most votes is the winner? What about that?

      1. Watch Kamala do in 2024 what they wanted Pence to do….that is IF she is still VP.

      2. No, Natacha, it is NOT “nothing.”

        It’s something. Deal with it honestly. It’s certainly not enough to show that Joe Biden was influenced by it, but society doesn’t benefit pretending that it’s “nothing.” It’s a fact that Kent said what he said.

        I’m liberal. I wish everyone — left, right, and center — would commit to dealing truthfully with all evidence.

      3. Natacha,

        Let’s go Brandon!

        Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, et al….none of them are funny, all of them are smug, condescending partisans, all of them are propagandist mouthpieces for the Democrat Party…..they have Dear Leaders, Chuck and Nancy, Joe and Kamala, all on speed dial to get their daily talking points…..

    2. With respect to unique identifiers, Darren clearly deletes comments from some accounts. That’s why By the Book isn’t around any more under that unique identifier. That’s why Art Deco isn’t around any more under his unique identifier. Even Independent Bob doesn’t use a unique identifier.

      Anyone who wants to ignore certain comments can do so. I generally ignore comments from the extremely repetitive bigot George.

      I condemn corruption. I’ve said more than once that I’d like Congress to pass legislation making influence peddling of all sorts illegal (whether by Hunter Biden or by Rudy Giuliani or by a member of Congress or …), but I doubt they’ll do it, since they benefit from it themselves.

      1. Anonymous…you’re right. You can’t expect the solution to the problem to come from inside the system that is the problem. All of these congress members are lined up at the lobbyists’ feed trough getting $$$ from big Pharma, inside trading, and foreign interests…selling us out. And we are stupid enough to keep electing them, and expecting they will police themselves. What a joke. Both sides are equally corrupt. Check out Trent Franks of AZ, who, when questioned about a “me too” issue, folded like a house of cards and resigned immediately (rather than have anyone look into how he gained so much wealth in such a short time). Very suspicious to me.

      2. “I condemn corruption.”

        “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

        ATS = deception and prevarication.

  18. It must be time for the Biden White House to get another new pet! Awww……look at the new kitty cat……

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