We often discuss the long-standing question of whether it is better for your client to smile or not smile in a mugshot. Some believe a smile conveys a lack of contrition while others view a frown as looking guilty. In the first mugshot of a former American president, Trump (or now Inmate P01135809) rejected both the “carefree smile” and the “disapproving frown” and went with seething scowl. It is a mugshot that unfortunately will resonate with both extremes in our political system.
In Christopher Marlowe’s Doctor Faustus, the devil Mephistopheles (Marlowe spells the name “Mephistophilis”) shows him Helen of Troy, “the face who launched a thousand ships” that released a firestorm.
The Scowl is likely to launch millions of ships . . . all in the wrong directions.
For District Attorney Fani Willis and many of her supporters, the mugshot clearly holds a type of trophy kill appeal worthy of framing and mounting on a wall. This is one of those moments long portrayed on teeshirts and other merchandise for many on the left.
For many Trump supporters, it is a moment of gratuitous insult of a president who is now being prosecuted in four different states just before an election where he is the leading Republican candidate. For the most extreme, it will be portrayed as a virtual declaration of war, proof that the establishment will use every means to prevent another 2016 populist victory.
It is noteworthy that, like his critics, Trump is already selling merchandise with the mugshot and a “Never Surrender” slogan.
In that way, the mugshot will be the rallying cry at both extremes in our political system.
For that reason, I believe the mugshot was a mistake, an inflammatory moment wisely avoided in New York by another Democratic prosecutor. It is entirely unnecessary for the most recognized face in the United States.
The fact, however, is that many on both sides relish the rage. I have previously said that the most unnerving fact of what I have called “the age of rage” is that people secretly enjoy it. Rage is addictive. It allows people to say and do things that they would ordinarily avoid in public. It is a license to hate blindly and excuse all means to achieve an end.
I think that the Georgia, New York, and federal January 6th indictments are unwarranted and threaten free speech. Moreover, it is valid for many to object that these prosecutions could have occurred years ago, but were launched just before the presidential election so that Trump will be running from court to court through the general election.
It is also true that the Mar-a-Lago case is more serious and more substantive . . . and that threat is continuing to grow as a threat for Trump as witnesses change their testimony and Trump aides confirm key prosecution claims.
Likewise, while I believe the case against Trump in the Georgia indictment is weak, there are defendants in that case that face stronger claims on specific election-related crimes.
Of course, in an age of rage, reason is the first to die. We cannot allow that to happen; we cannot allow rage addicts to drive our political or legal processes. We have the greatest legal system in the world. We will sort out these issues from the criminalization of political speech to the claim that Trump can be barred from the ballot even without a charge or conviction.
Courts are likely to divide on these issues. However, we remain a nation of laws. That tradition takes a certain leap of faith. We do not support that system only when we prevail. That is the view of court packers like Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.,Y.). Notably, Ocasio-Cortez even said that she does not understand why we need a Supreme Court.
Even law professors and legal commentators have called our Constitution “trash” and called for the country to “reclaim America from constitutionalism.” That is the greatest danger of these times: that our deep divisions will cause us to lose faith in our defining values and in each other.
The Trump mugshot captures a defining moment for our country. It will define us. I believe that it is paramount that appellate courts consider the merits of the free speech and other challenges to the Georgia, New York, and federal cases. That may be difficult if judges support these prosecutors in demanding trials before constitutional appeals are taken. Appellate judges could agree, in good faith, that challenges are premature before any convictions.
The important thing is for citizens not to be played as chumps. We will sort this out. The courts will address these important legal issues as citizens resolve the equally important political issues raised by these prosecutions.
The merchandising and madness aside, we have more matters to resolve . . . together.
This column appeared on Fox.com
Since we seem to like polls on here:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/25/ipsos-poll-trump-indictment-00112755
Time to face facts. Most of you are in the minority on Trump and his indictments.
“Disgrace to my profession”: Legal experts blast Prof. Jonathan Turley for excusing away Trump call”
This is why Turley’s credibility is worthless. His hypocrisy is being exposed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/disgrace-to-my-profession-legal-experts-blast-prof-jonathan-turley-for-excusing-away-trump-call/ar-AA1fMGUJ?cvid=3819299cbabf42fb9ba3dde7c635b879&ei=28
Merriam-Webster
find
verb
ˈfīnd
found ˈfau̇nd; finding
transitive verb
1a: to come upon often accidentally : encounter – found a $10 bill on the ground
1b: to meet with (a particular reception) – hoped to find favor
2a: to come upon by searching or effort – must find a suitable person for the job
2b: to discover by study or experiment – find an answer
2c: to obtain by effort or management – find the time to study
2d: attain, reach – the bullet found its mark
3a: to discover by the intellect or the feelings : experience – find much pleasure in your company
3b: to perceive (oneself) to be in a certain place or condition – found himself in prison awaiting deportation – found himself on the verge of bankruptcy
3c: to gain or regain the use or power of – trying to find his tongue
3d: to bring (oneself) to a realization of one’s powers or of one’s proper sphere of activity
And they continue to leave out other important factors.
When that call was made, the election was over. And recounts had been done and reverified in GA. Furthermore, Trump had already lost almost every court case. He legally was OUT OF OPTIONS. But Trump just continued to forge ahead with fake and unverified voter fraud stories.
But not only did he press the secretary of state in that call, he threatened him using language such as “You could really be in big trouble if you don’t do something”. That type of phone call to a election official is certainly grounds for charges.
And despite what Alan Dershowitz says, back in 2000, that he made phone calls to lobby for votes – that’s because the election was STILL UP FOR GRABS in one state with less than 500 votes to decide the entire election.
See the difference?
At the time of the call there was Trump litigation pending in Georgia challenging the legality of the votes that were counted. The purpose of the call was to negotiate access to information under Raffensberger’s control that would enable the Trump team to check the information they had indicating that the number of illegal votes was way in excess of the margin. Trump’s point was that Raffensberger could find the illegal votes by investigating the information. There is nothing criminal about that.
Trump made no attempt in that phone call to “negotiate access to information under Raffensberger’s control.” You’re imagining things.
“At the time of the call there was Trump litigation pending in Georgia challenging the legality of the votes that were counted.”
On January 2, 2021? I’m pretty sure EVERYTHING had been decided that Biden won and everything going forward was a formality.
I guess Trump could sue for something, and could still sue for something or anything, but that’s a weak comeback that he had a pending case.
The president, during the call, threatened potential legal consequences for Raffensperger if his demands were not met.
“You know what they did, and you’re not reporting it, That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk.”
Imagine the President calling you and saying that…………..would you feel threatened?
Here is the complete paragraph. If Raffensperger new this was happening and did nothing he would have criminal liability. This is not a threat. It is not different then telling a person that if they drive the car for bank robbers it is illegal.
“And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.
“you know what they did and you’re not reporting it”
Trump with more great “inside information” courtesy of “Trump Media” LOL
Threat? Let’s ask Brad personally. Because you all know what he’s feeling.
Bill, what are you trying to tell us? You provide one sentence out of more than an hour where, much of the time, Trump listed all the things likely to have happened during the election. Much of that stuff was factual and proven at the time. Other stuff has since been confirmed. The data was compiled by informed people who looked at the data instead of doing what the left does, which is to draw a conclusion and create facts to fit it.
“Much of that stuff was factual and proven at the time. Other stuff has since been confirmed. ”
Now you’re coming at me with this? Seriously? You’re part of the problem.
I posted with links some of the proven stuff. You have posted nothing but second-hand opinion and insult.
Let me help you out. Go to https://justthenews.com/john-solomon and it will provide some of what Solomon has written. Pick the subject that interests you and then look at the type of sourcing he dies. Alternatively sign up for JTN and read Solomon’s column when it comes out. Invariably one soon will touch on what you wish to know.
I can provide loads of sources that do similar things but this one is the easiest and one of the best for the subject at hand.
Do me a favor, I’m actually going to hear you out here.
Cut and paste a link to a story by Solomon that shows proven election fraud or miscounts. If you can find stuff in GA, that would be even better. The best article you’ve read on this subject.
I’ll check back, read it, then give you my opinion on it.
“Do me a favor, ”
Bill, you must learn to put effort in and do some of your own research. You chose to distort a 3-second clip that is out of context, taken from a one-hour conversation. You search for slogans, not proof.
You ask for the best post, but there is no ‘best’, for the proper way to prove something is to build on bits of data already done on Biden, but you reject proof with out-of-context remarks, slogans, and deflection.
That said, I already provided you a list of Solomon’s most recent columns that are easy to scan so you can choose yourself. His latest column on the present subject should be near the top. Alternatively, you can subscribe to JTN and look for his column when written. It is generally one of the first. Many excellent writers provide the data in video form and actual transcripts when providing opinions. None of them rely on a 3-second out-of-context piece of garbage you seem to favor.
If you look at JTN, check out the dig-in section for the hard data. That is where opinion should come from. That is what all your arguments lack.
Sunday, JTN places some of the older columns on the net. Here is one on the Ukraine scandal written by Solomon. You were just as vehement on your erroneous Ukraine scandal as you are regarding Georgia. There is no need for me to look thorough the JTN site for Georgia election news which is there because I gave you the address of his columns. You can look for yourself
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/hdfeds-urged-biden-give-ukraine-loan-guarantee-he?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
Also go to the dig-in which provides the documents and links. One click on the site reveals the data.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/hdfeds-urged-biden-give-ukraine-loan-guarantee-he?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter#digital-diary
Now you don’t have the excuse of being data starved.
Here are the links, but you will have to go to the site to click onto them.
Documents
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UkraineTaskForceLoanGuaranteeMemo.pdf
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KentBurismaEmailNov222016.pdf
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NulandtoShokinJune2015.pdf
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UkraineTaskForceLoanGuaranteeMemo.pdf
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Nov2015LoanGuaranteeConditionsIPC.pdf
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BidenPorschenkoReadout11-5-15.pdf
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CiarmellaJan2016EMailShokin.pdf
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January2016ConditionsEmail.pdf
Links
• State Department deemed to have been engaged in bribery
• created the appearance of a conflict of interest
• columnist for The Hill
• Biden recounted in the speech to the Council on Foreign Relations
• preserved in the official records of Congress
• Kent, for instance, answered “he did”
• CNN-New York Times debate.
• Devon Archer told Congress that Burisma hired Hunter Biden
Here are the first couple of minutes when Trump got on the phone with Raffensperger. Your selected sentence showed nothing and the paragraph I provided makes it clearer that there was no threat.
Trump: OK, thank you very much. Hello Brad and Ryan and everybody. We appreciate the time and the call. So we’ve spent a lot of time on this and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it’s pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be getting 25-30,000 people a rally and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.
But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 — anywhere from 250-300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked. We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you’ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that’s going to happen.
Another tremendous number. We’re going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number but its in the 50s of thousands— and that’s people that went to vote and they were told they can’t vote because they’ve already been voted for. And it’s a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number’s large. We’ll have it for you. But it’s much more than the number of 11,779 that’s — The current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That’s something I think everyone — at least that’s’ a number that everyone agrees on.
But that’s the difference in the votes. But we’ve had hundreds of thousands of ballots that we’re able to actually — we’ll get you a pretty accurate number. You don’t need much of a number because the number that in theory I lost by, the margin would be 11,779. But you also have a substantial numbers of people, thousands and thousands who went to the voting place on November 3, were told they couldn’t vote, were told they couldn’t vote because a ballot had been put on their name. And you know that’s very, very, very, very sad.
We had, I believe it’s about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren’t on the voter registration list, so it’s 4,502 who voted but they weren’t on the voter registration roll which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant and they’re not allowed to be counted. That’s 18,325.
Smaller number — you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. — a post office box number — and they had a post office box number and that’s not allowed. We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you me and everybody else.
Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, they went early in the morning they went to the table with the black robe, the black shield and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before the table was put there. I think it was, Brad you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before and then it was stuffed with votes.
They weren’t in an official voter box, but they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren’t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it but slow motion and it was magnified many times over and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.
You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia but they were from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots sent to vacant, they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that’s 2,326.
And you had drop boxes, which is very bad. You had drop boxes that were picked up. We have photographs and we have affidavits from many people.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html
“Here are the first couple of minutes when Trump got on the phone with Raffensperger. Your selected sentence showed nothing and the paragraph I provided makes it clearer that there was no threat.”
LOL, what does what you cut and paste show…other than Trump showing his true colors of lying about election fraud and being an idiot.
My cut and paste is SIGNIFICANT because he’s threatening the Secretary. Just the words “you know what they did and you’re not reporting it”.
Your logic is the Secretary knows he didn’t do anything wrong and should just blow it off…..yeah, it’s just that crazy President Trump. Such a funny guy.
Why do you think he recorded the phone call?
You’ve got know concept of reality.
“LOL, what does what you cut and paste show…other than Trump showing his true colors of lying about election fraud and being an idiot.”
That is you talking and is more a reflection of your behavior than his. In those first few minutes he said some things that were proven on the blog within the last week or so. Your ignorance refuses to research or recognize the truth so you keep on with dull observations.
“My cut and paste is SIGNIFICANT because he’s threatening the Secretary. Just the words “you know what they did and you’re not reporting it””
Read the entire paragraph nd then read what comes before and after. Trump was correct. There was no threat made that should lead to criminal charges. Believing there is, is near insanity.
“Your logic is the Secretary knows he didn’t do anything wrong and should just blow it off”
No, the logic is evidence exists and out of the many hundreds of thousands of illegal votes you can find 11,000 + of them. That is the sum total of the threat except fore what the law says and that law was written before Trump went into politics.
“Why do you think he recorded the phone call?
You’ve got know concept of reality.”
I believe both sides had attorneys and both sides were likely to record the call. Reality requires fact. I provide it along with significant evidence. What do you provide? Leftist slogans without proof.
Bill why is it you have so little knowledge about the things you talk about? When you were in school did they not teach you how to research and think for yourself?
When you start to attack that way, you’re submitting.
Are you submitting?
Of course not, but it is obvious you have submitted to ideas that aren’t true, and now are stuck trying to defend them.
You didn’t research for yourself. That is obvious from the content of your responses. I did and that is why I post where the information comes from.
another empty demolib lying sheep vessel – when confronted with facts, it changes form and squeals like a pig
Probably possessed and soon will run into the water and drown.
LOL
Bahh ! Reeeeeeehhh ! *gurgle gurgle*
Bill and Anonymous, you are both completely wrong. Just read the transcript of the call that S Meyer linked to below. The purpose of the call, with lawyers for both sides on the line, was to see if there was a way forward on the claims about illegal votes set out in Trump’s petition to a Georgia court that had not yet been adjudicated. At the end of the call they set up a meeting for the lawyers to figure out if there was a way for Trump’s team to review the information that Raffensberger had but Trump did not.
Quote the part that YOU believe shows Trump “negotiat[ing] access to information under Raffensberger’s control.” Don’t make me guess what you’re referring to, when you can just present the specific sentence(s).
“The purpose of the call, with lawyers for both sides on the line, was to see if there was a way forward on the claims about illegal votes set out in Trump’s petition to a Georgia court that had not yet been adjudicated.”
NO. The way forward with a legal challenge in court … is in court.
Why don’t you just read the transcript? Trump had petitioned the court but a judge had not been appointed. The Trump team had a call with the Raffensberger team, including lawyers for both sides, to discuss the claims about illegal votes in that petition. By the end of the call they agree to a further meeting to see if there is a way for Trump’s lawyers to get access to the information that Raffensberger has but Trump does not. The problem is that Raffensberger asserts that Trump’s numbers are wrong but won’t provide the information to back that up.
If you’re unwilling to quote the part that you believe substantiates your claim, I’m not going to continue hunting for it on your behalf where I have to guess what you have in mind. As a simple example, Trump never uses the word “access,” so you must have some other word in mind. In fact, Germany says “I don’t think we can give access to data that’s protected by law,” which seems to contradict you.
As for a judge not yet having been appointed, you file suit in court and you wait for a judge to be appointed to the case.
In 2000 they were counting hanging chads furiously right up until the SCOTUS ended it.
Fyi, thought Trump’s call to Ga. SoS was reaching way out of the bounds of polite company, as Trump is wont to do, perhaps impeachably so (see also J6 ‘stop the steal’ rally), but not criminal .. . especially given that 50 Top Intell Officials and Joe Biden lied with malice of forethought about Hunter’s Laptop being Russian disinformation just before the election.
*See the difference?
I’m glad you see it as possibly impeachable, because that’s where this should have ended – with impeachment based on Trump’s actions and lack of actions on J6 which the genesis was linked to, well, a fairytale he made up.
But c’mon – let’s not compare the 2020 election with the 2000 election. Nuance and context please.
“You could really be in big trouble if you don’t do something.”
That is a thoroughly neutral and innocuous statement regarding a vast, unspecified array of potential ramifications and consequences.
The only thing this statement proves is that Trump was really out of ammo.
The only way to convict on this tripe is jury tampering.
The president, during the call, threatened potential legal consequences for Raffensperger if his demands were not met.
“You know what they did, and you’re not reporting it,” Trump said during the call. “That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk.”
Hmmmmmmmm…………….
Why doesn’t Turley concentrate on that quote, seems VERY meaningful.
“Why doesn’t Turley concentrate on that quote, seems VERY meaningful.”
He assumes the blog’s reading ability surpasses that of a child in the third grade.
Trump believed that Raffensberger was turning a blind eye to the rampant counting of illegal votes. He called to Raffensberger’s attention that that was a crime. Trump had no authority to prosecute Raffensberger himself, and the election results meant that he would cease to be President in less than three weeks in any event.
There was no explicit threat here, and little likelihood that there was even an implicit one. Raffensberger certainly did not see it that way, or if he did did not take it seriously, since Trump never got what he wanted, and his lawyers never got access to the information they were seeking.
Daniel, thank you for putting things in an easy to understand fashion. I believe Raffensperger pretended to be threatened as an excuse for his cowardice, laziness, or being complicit in some fashion for the illegal actions that occurred.
He didn’t stand up like a man and the automotons bought the excuse so they could use it in a dirty political fashion.
“Raffensberger certainly did not see it that way, or if he did did not take it seriously, since Trump never got what he wanted, and his lawyers never got access to the information they were seeking.”
He’s already been quoted it was a threat.
Just because he didn’t give Trump what he wanted doesn’t mean he didn’t take it seriously. Where is you logic? The guy was threatened and his family was threatened after Trump went public on Twitter about him. He still didn’t give in, because he believed in doing the right thing.
News flash for you: people can feel intimated and still do the right thing and not succumb to pressure.
Your logic fails horribly, sorry.
Can you tell us again where the threat was? It must have disappeared because no one else has seen it. Bill, maybe you have a problem that makes you believe things that aren’t true.
“You know what they did, and you’re not reporting it,” Trump said during the call. “That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk.”
Which would mean something if Trump was a district attorney. Hey Bill, if you don’t agree with me u could get shot with an orbiting death ray. Sound like a threat?
It might also have a chilling effect if Raff was a 3rd grader. So what?
President calls you and says this is criminal and you’re in big trouble if you don’t do what I asked for on this phone call.
Sounds like trying to influence an election official to me. Intimidate actually.
Let’s remember too, this isn’t the only thing Trump did on is way to an indictment. Which is spelled out thoroughly in the GA case.
It all adds up.
Go back and listen to the audio.
Don’t ever tell someone not to speed because according to you that would be a threat.
“Don’t ever tell someone not to speed because according to you that would be a threat.”
That has got to be the worst reply I’ve seen……….you lack total context.
Quite the contrary. I brought the supposed threat down to your level. You have already demonstrated that you don’t understand the entire paragraph that is within a conversation that show potential criminality by the left. That potential criminality is being confirmed every day.
Let me ask you this. One of the 18 indicted persons went to an election workers house and told them if they did not admit to election fraud, they would be send to jail in 24 hours.
Was that just informing them of the law./consquences – or was that a threat? Mind you the person was not involved in any election fraud.
I just want to confirm your opinion on this.
Your facts have been notoriously inaccurate so I can’t comment on them. Provide the proof involved from both sides and I will render an opinion. That means you have to go to the raw data and produce it. That is something I believe you have no experience with.
Let’s just say – that was the “raw” data – it happened exactly as I said.
Would that be be a threat? Let’s at least establish if we at least are on the same wavelength.
” Let’s at least establish if we at least are on the same wavelength.”
We are not on the same wavelength. Your hypothetical is incomplete and doesn’t lead to intelligent discussion.
Let me make things simple for you. If you don’t stop lying, I will send you to jail. Is that a threat? Kind of. Can you now indict me for saying that? No.
S Meyer
Bill is just doing what trolls do. He knows nothing, nor does he want to. He just spits out what he is told to spit out.
Don’t treat him like he’s commenting in good faith
Iowan, thank you for your input. Bill can do as he pleases. It shows in his work product.
I like to provide a second chance. Maybe he will try and delve deeper. Probably not, but there is always the chance. If not , like you I will label him a troll and treat him like one.
Does he fit into the category of the Bug or ATS? Let us see.
“Sounds like trying to influence an election official to me. Intimidate actually.”
Attempted influence is not a crime last time I checked (unless it comes with a $5M dollar bribe)
Intimidation sounds like it could be criminal, but I already pointed out that the President has no “legal” authority to “tie ol’ Raff to the whippin’ post”, and pretty sure Raff knew that, so whats the intimidation? Attempted intimidation??? Is that really the charge??
“Attempted influence is not a crime last time I checked ”
Influence an election official. Pretty sure it is. Like when they told a woman either admit it or they’d throw her in jail.
Pretty illegal.
:”Hey Bill, if you don’t agree with me u could get shot with an orbiting death ray. Sound like a threat?”
Not particularly.
But if we work together, and you’re my superior, and you say to me “You better not hide that information I need, otherwise you could be at a big risk” – then yes, I would feel inclined to feel threatened – especially when I knew what you were asking for was bogus.
“But if we work together, and you’re my superior”
Raff didn’t work for Trump, and Trump is not his “superior” in any way. In your globalist, marxist wet dream maybe his is.
Nice hypothetical though…totally irrelevant.
What was the “big risk”? How could it be interpreted to be a criminal prosecution? What would it be prosecuted for? This is a case of leftists projecting their own Modus operandus onto Trump.
I think what you all fail to see is a peaceful transfer of power.
2020 was anything but peaceful. And while some laws were put in to help ease that transition, if you don’t go after Trump you leave this as something that will happen again – and potentially worse.
Overturning an election doesn’t have to be the military coming in and surrounding the WH so no one can get to the President trying to stay in power. And I think that’s what most of you need to see for anything to be charged.
It can be more subtle than that. Hopefully it makes future politicians take accountability and respect our democratic experiment – which Trump trampled on and probably does a second time in 2024.
Yes Bill, the ‘overturning of an election” doesn’t have to mean the military surrounding the White House. It could mean the FBI directed by Obama spying on a campaign and a president’s transition team, riots, protests and arson the day before and the day of the Inauguration, and opposition congress members boycotting said inauguration not to mention the establishment calling for PDJT’s impeachment before he even set foot in the Oval Office. Do you consider that a peaceful transfer of power? Never mind the 4 years of relentlessly hounding the man. He needs to win in ‘24 and get another term after that.
Bill, learn to read. He didn’t threaten Raffensperger. He told him his responsibilities and the law. That is not a threat and was out of Trump’s hands so it can’t be conceived of as a threat. Why don’t you research before you make statements that aren’t true?
Above you have a bit of what Trump said in context.
“That is not a threat and was out of Trump’s hands”
Why was it out of his hands?
IF I am in the car with you and tell you that your speed of over 100 can get you put in jail because that is the law, I am not directly threatening you. The law is threatening you.
Listen to the full audio or read the full text.
“IF I am in the car with you and tell you that your speed of over 100 can get you put in jail because that is the law, I am not directly threatening you. The law is threatening you.”
You are giving me good advice in the car, and I would appreciate that. I would actually be breaking a law there. And you’re trying to influence me to be, well, safe. Hence my appreciation.
Now to Trump. What was his influence in that call? Mind you, the election has already been decided.
If Raffensperger knowingly hides criminality in vote counting he can be held criminally responsible. That is the law. Trump didn’t threaten him. Trump told him the law and Raffensperger should have looked into the problems which have been confirmed.
I posted an example a couple of days ago where the official records, not the voter’s or Trump’s records, show people were prevented from voting and their votes apparently were being cast by others. You have to start reading the raw data like the actual transcripts. You cannot rely on news services to provide you with the truth.
I look for truth. You should do the same.
So the election has been declared for Biden and GA has been recounted and verified 4x I believe. But Trump tells him he’s at risk. Threat? Raffensperger admitted so.
What raw data do you have and what is your source? Are you also saying Raffensperger is actually guilty of ignoring election fraud? How many votes have you discovered?
You are demonstrating that you don’t know the significance of a recount or what it means. That has been explained many times on this blog, but when one refuses to listen it is a sure sign he is protecting beliefs that he cannot defend.
“What raw data do you have and what is your source?”
The most recent example is further proof that people were not permitted to cast their legal votes because ballots in their name were already cast even though there was written evidence showing that the mail in ballot was rejected by the legitimate owner.
Many other examples have been provided over the past two years with the production of emails, transcripts etc. Just the News has been one of the leaders. The columnist to follow is John Solomon. You will see that he provides links to where the information comes from or tells you what type of source it is. He has been almost 100% accurate in JTN and before that he was proven correct on almost every significant issue. I suggest you get the free emails and if nothing else read Solomon’s comments and review the sources.
What are your sources?
“Are you also saying Raffensperger is actually guilty of ignoring election fraud?”
I will not say that because there are many reasons for people doing the wrong thing. He did not act appropriately.
Why dont we ask Raffensperger himself. Here’s his quote below:
“I felt then—and still believe today—that this was a threat”.
Well, it obviously wasn’t, and the lying about the content then getting caught was a big problem … the audio file undeleted from the corrupt little MSM tattletale’s drive.
So, we don’t have it with words, we have a weasels “feelings”. LOL
I suppose the left is writhing in agony, a “safe space” was violated.
So once again we have a corrupt criminal, with corupt minions telling lies like the big lie to WAPO, getting caught, then claiming their feelers were hurt.
What really was going on was Trump was calling him the skumbag liar that he is. The coward, the corupt go along and lie along and do nothing no good sheep.
If Raffensperger felt guilty, he might perceive it as a threat since if he was, he could be charged with a criminal offense. However, it doesn’t make a difference how Raffensperger perceived what Trump said. The words are in black and white, and the audio is there. There is no reasonable threat being made that should be pursued in the fashion the left is doing.
Listen to the violent comments made by the Democrats all the time. Those are real threats, and you stay mum. “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions,” __Charles Schumer
Schumer shouldn’t have said those words, but should he be prosecuted? Only idiots would do such a thing, and we see such idiots doing so today on a comment that was not a threat.
and… we don’t get Raffenseburger’s reply…. BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING
Anonymous: Thx for posting the link to the Salon article. March Elias said it best about JT’s nonsensical argument that DJT was simply asking Raffensperger for a recount: “Jonathan Turley is Mike Lindell on tenure”.
Is this the same —- — —-, Marc Elias?
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Marc Elias
On March 12, 2021, a three-judge panel of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals issued sanctions on Elias and other Perkins Coie attorneys for “redundant and misleading” motions related to a case in which Elias and his legal team argued that the elimination of straight-ticket voting in Texas disproportionately affected minorities. In the ruling, the court stated that Elias and his team “did not notify the court that their latest motion to supplement the record filed on February 10, 2021, was nearly identical to the motion to supplement the record filed several months ago by the same attorneys, on September 29, 2020”.[20] After the ruling, Perkins Coie defended Elias’s actions.[21] In December 2021, Elias asked the full court to reconsider the panel’s decision. His attorney Paul Clement claimed that the panel’s action was unprecedented and Elias had made good-faith mistakes rather than engaged in egregious misconduct for which appellate courts typically impose sanctions. The court has broad authority to oversee the attorneys who appear before it. The motion was denied by the appeals court.[22][23]
According to The American Lawyer, Elias has gained a reputation for “strident election and voting rights litigation on behalf of the Democratic Party”.[24] In 2020, Elias’s employer, Perkins Coie, received $9.6 million from the Hopewell Fund and $11.6 million from Priorities USA Action. Elias led a Hopewell Fund project called the Democracy Docket Legal Fund that filed lawsuits to block Republican voting legislation.[2]
Elias’s tactics have been criticized by legal scholar Richard L. Hasen who has written a blog post outlining the differences in approaches to defending election law[25] Hasen and Elias had previously disagreed on legal tactics.[26]
On May 18, 2022, Elias was called to testify by prosecutors for special counsel John Durham at the trial of his former law partner Michael Sussmann, who had been charged with making a false statement to FBI general counsel James Baker during a meeting they had in September 2016. Elias acknowledged hiring Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research against Clinton’s opponent Donald Trump, asserting it was part of a larger effort to protect the Clinton campaign from possible libel suits from Trump or others. He said that in representing high-profile political figures, he hired firms that could ensure confidentiality to avoid leaks than might damage his clients. The Durham prosecution called Elias to testify at the outset of the trial, apparently to reinforce what it contended was an effort by Sussmann and the Clinton campaign to draw FBI and press attention to potential communications between computer servers at the Russian Alfa-Bank and the Trump Organization.[27]
On April 12, 2023, it was reported that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) had cut ties with Elias.[28][29]
– Wiki
The fact that JT is willing to offer an unpopular opinion (at least in his milieu) is to his credit. As Robert Frost wrote: the middle of the road is where the yellow is.
OT;
“Poll: Americans more concerned with Trump charges than Hunter Biden allegations”
“Despite Republicans’ best efforts to neutralize the political impact of former President Donald Trump’s four criminal indictments by playing up the legal travails of President Biden’s son Hunter, a growing number of Americans say Trump and his family are more “corrupt” than Biden and his family, according to a new Yahoo News/YouGov poll.”
Because Republicans are experts at mismanagement and incompetence. For all their threats of investigations and demands for documents they still have nothing to show for it after nearly 6 years now. Once Trump’s trial starts people will be saying, “Hunter who?”
Six years? The Hunter Biden laptop came into view only in late 2019. The Republicans only acquired a majority in the House in January 2023. Since they have acquired a majority in the House, they have done a good job in developing the relevant facts.
They have succeeded in providing zero evidence of a crime. If it’s taking them that long compared to Willis already indicting Trump in two years they are clearly incompetent and a bunch of morons. Even Republicans are asking when will they get the evidence they keep promising. They don’t have anything.
No evidence of crime? Here is a summary of part of Devin Archer’s testimony.
Zero evidence of a crime?
Here is a summary of Devin Archer’s testimony regarding the firing of Victor Shokin:
“They [Republcans] specifically want an un-redacted document that indicates that then-Vice President Biden took a call with the president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, on May 27, 2016.
Republicans say the document was emailed to ‘Robert L. Peters’ which is ‘a pseudonym’ the House Oversight Committee has ‘identified as then Vice-President Biden,’ a letter obtained by DailyMail.com states.
Hunter Biden’s ex-business partner Archer testified before the House Oversight Committee earlier this month that Joe Biden’s ‘brand’ protected Burisma because ‘people would be intimidated to mess with them.’
Hunter’s presence on Burisma’s board and access to his father – then vice president – led to the company’s ‘longevity’ because they had the ‘capabilities to navigate D.C.,’ Archer said according to the transcript.
Hunter’s best friend and business associate sat with him on Burisma’s board beginning in 2014. They also started Rosemont Seneca Partners, an investment advisory firm, together.
He confirmed that Hunter put Joe on speakerphone 20 times during business meetings over a 10-year period, which was a ‘signal’ of ‘value,’ and Hunter used his dad as ‘defensive leverage.’
Republicans have said Hunter’s Burisma entanglement and possible influence in Shokin’s firing is evidence of the Biden family’s influence peddling scheme
Archer said it was ‘government pressure’ from the ongoing Ukrainian investigation into the company at the time – led by top prosecutor Shokin
He also told lawmakers that Joe sat and had dinner in-person on at least two occasions with Hunter and his foreign business partners, who then wired money almost immediately after to Biden-affiliated companies.
During a dinner with Burisma executives at the Four Seasons in Dubai in December 2015, Hunter said he would be able to get ‘help from D.C.’ in order to relieve some ‘government pressure’ on the company.
Archer testified that Burisma was ‘getting pressure’ and as a result, they ‘requested Hunter, you know, help them with some of that pressure.’
He said it was ‘government pressure’ from the ongoing Ukrainian investigation into the company at the time – led by top prosecutor Shokin.
However, Archer said that Shokin ‘wasn’t specifically on my radar as being an individual that was — that was targeting him.’
‘But yes, there was constant pressure. And it was like it was like whack a mole in regards to the pressures that had to resolve,’ Archer continued.
He said that the Burisma executives weren’t specific in asking directly ‘can the big guy help?’
Rather, they used the ‘amorphous’ term: ‘can we get help in D.C.?’
Archer understood that ‘D.C.’ meant Hunter’s influence based on his connection to his then-VP father.
‘Well, I mean, he was a lobbyist and an expert and obviously he carried, you know, a very powerful name. So I think it was that’s what they were asking for,’ said Archer.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12445811/Fired-Ukrainian-prosecutor-Shokin-says-Joe-Hunter-Biden-DID-BRIBES-ousting-Isnt-corruption-says-preview-bombshell-interview.html
The operative words are “quid pro quo.”
Devon also said that he had first hand knowlege that it was Joe that Hunter called that day at Zlovchevsky’s behest. Then after his lwayer reminded him that he was implicating himself in the bribery scheme, he asked to change his testimony for the record…and was allowed to!
“Because Republicans are experts at mismanagement and incompetence. ”
LOL. Name a place in the nation run by dems for any significant period of time that is not mismanaged, at best, more likely a rotting hellhole.
Then, look at the red states those people flee to.
Look at the economy under Trump, and look at it under biden.
The left always projects.
The underlying reason your Polls swing Left is that Democrat’s LOVE Crooks. Their Revolving Door policies are now the Conveyor Belt policy of the Cartel’s Playground, Their Politician’s are the Top Shelf (POTUS) Crooks and their Prodigy as well. Theft-by-Deficit Spending to the tune of 32 Trillion +, enabled by the Democrat’s K-Street Cartel of Crooks (Hunter B’s Advisor Types and Lobbyist). it doesn’t get better than that. Democratic Party Voters demand Free Hand Outs, and when They don’t get them, They loot the Stores and the System on the Job. Why WORK when you can just be LAZY. It’s easy to vote for Democrats.
I find it hilarious that Jessica Turdlov just spewed the exact same talking points on the screen.
Nazis and communists enjoyed humiliating their political enemies, too.
Excellent article Mr Turley. Your analysis is always apropos as to what Americans believe is taking place in the nation, while the rich men north of Richmond pretend they are in control. Apple’s top 10 songs on iTunes today reflects how Americans feel. Rich men north of Richmond should take note. Or not to their peril
https://www.popvortex.com/music/charts/
iTunes top 100 songs chart.
Rich Men North of Richmond – Oliver Anthony Music
I Want to go Home – Oliver Anthony Music
Used To Be Young – Miley Cyrus
Single Soon – Selena Gomez
Aint Gotta Dollar – Oliver Anthony Music
I Want To Go Home (live) – Oliver Anthony Music
Used To Be Young – Miley Cyrus
Fast Car – Luke Combs
Try That In A Small Town – Jason Aldean
Ive Got to Get Sober – Oliver Anthony Music
‘Rich Men North of Richmond’ Singer Oliver Anthony Slams Use of Song at Republican Debate: ‘I Wrote That Song About Those People’
He means the swamp creatures, of course. Not Trump.
But, of course you knew that.
No right-minded person wants a damned thing to do with hutchinson, hailey, pence…
#11 was “Let’s scalp some grooming trolls cuz they screw our kids”
Cuz trolls gonna troll
The Rich Men, North of North of Richmond, in Jessie Jackson’s “New York City” are the ones running America’s money and the wholly unconstitutional Federal Reserve Board. They’re on holiday with America’s money in America’s most beautiful spot, Jackson Hole.
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“If you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”
– Theodore Roosevelt
JT writes: “I have previously said that the most unnerving fact of what I have called “the age of rage” is that people secretly enjoy it. Rage is addictive. It allows people to say and do things that they would ordinarily avoid in public.” I suggest that the rage is perhaps faux. Underlying the fake rage is the unfortunate human emtional need to divide other people into good guys and bad guys. We see this is sports, where we love our home team and hate the opposing team; sometimes this results in violence. But in literature or performance art also it is hard for us to become interested in a story unless there is a hero and a villain. In a political system where the general public does not participate in politics, the instinct for partisonship may be less evident in politics. And where religion is strong, people tend to ignore politics. But where there is a mass electorate, and where religion has waned, it is almost certain that the instinct to partisanship will dominate, and eventually overcome all rules of decorum, fairness and decency. That is where we are.
Turley feeds that rage every day. He knows it’s what brings readers to his blog. If it were truly about legal analyses it would be boring and useless for those seeking to feed their rage fueled conspiracy theories. Professor Turley is unequivocally guilty of feeding the rage he supposedly disagrees with. That level of hypocrisy is simply unattainable long term.
The majority of comments on the good professor’s blog are hardly rage.
Most, like Edwardmahl, are reasonable and common sense.
“The courts will address these important legal issues as citizens resolve the equally important political issues raised by these prosecutions.”
I’m curious as to why Turley thinks that the Courts will address these issues in a Constitutional way. Has the Courts addressed in any meaningful way the obvious and expressed bias against Trump by Judge Chatkin, Fani Willis, or Alvin Bragg? All laws and court precedents seem to now have a “Trump” exception. They also seem to have a “Biden” exception. Both in opposite directions.
You seem to want to make excuses for why Trump should br above the law. Trump as with all rich and powerful believe they are different, that they are being treated like everyone else would is an injustice, something they find offensive.
They don’t think normal rules apply to them. That’s especially true of Trump. At the very minimum two weeks in that jail without any access to social media would quickly change his imagined privilege of power. All he needs to do is bad mouth the judge on twitter or Truth social. Because the judge is well within her right to throw him in jail till his trial. He IS a prisoner out on bail right now. He has a prison number.
Maybe so, but he will become your President, again. So, better dust-off the old pussyhat and get your passport renewed – oh, and also prepare to move your money out of treasuries and into American businesses other than military stocks. That move will depend upon the hissy-fit the dems start throwing as the inevitable loss of power because of their mismanagement and ineptitude and contempt for those that make this nation great.
Jonathan: Getting back to the Fani Willis indictments. Thats what I like to call them because she is the most brilliant prosecutor ever. I know she don’t know “nuthin ’bout that computer stuff”, but she got a plan for old DJT. She gonna get that Reverend to flip and she gonna CRUCIFY ol’ Trumpy boy. Now, if you don’t mind, I’m gonna capitalize God, even though I am unmistakenly and unashamedly a godless person.
I know none of this has jack to do with the topic at hand, but if I don’t come here and drop my keyboard diarrhea, how are your uninformed readers ever gonna learn any of this total crock of sheot?
What I am really working towards here is simple. I try, with each stupid rant, to reach a new level of incoherence, irrelevance, and vulgarity. I’m not trying to have a discussion, that’s never been the point. I come here because I am a narcissist and a Smeagol. Don’t you think I am convincing people of my brilliance? Plus i get paid to do it, teehee. But I put my real name, so’s people know I’m real. They may find it hard to believe I have this much free time on my hands, being a brilliant lawyer and all, but I do!
Now for the important stuff
Theres a red under my bed
And there’s a little ORANGE man in my head
And he said, “you’re not going crazy, you’re just a bit sad”
“‘Cause there’s a man in ya, gnawing ya, tearing ya into two”
Sorry about the brain damage. Really…
The booking wasn’t newsworthy for people like me who are self-defining in what I consume. Stop paying attention to cheap infotainment, and the media will get the message.
Merriam-Webster
tinderbox
noun
tin·der·box ˈtin-dər-ˌbäks
1a: a metal box for holding tinder and usually a flint and steel for striking a spark
1b: a highly inflammable object or place
2: a potentially explosive place or situation
Jonathan: When I say DJT intended his posed mug shot to incite his MAGA supporters, I kow there isn’t a soul on the planet who give a rat’s a$$ what I have to say. But you know I am a narcissist, so I am gonna ramble on anyway.
But there is more BREAKING NEWS. And tell all your friends you heard it here first. Now, I want to tell you, I live in AMA, so i know exactly how many people showed up at DJT’s jail visit. Don’t let anyone tell you it was 10K, because it ws no more than 5k. Man, that DJT just can’t draw a crowd these days. I mean it’s not like Fanny didn’t have the roads all blocked off around the jail. Did I mention, she gonna fry that orange man? She got a plan, sho nuff. So what she don’t know “how all that computer stuff work” or how the indictment got posted before it was handed down. She is one brilliant prosecutor!
And now DJT finally took my advice and got back on that twitter thing. Even though I said twitter wasn’t nothin’ now that Musk got it. The Don is desparate for more exposure. He only got 20 million right wing nut jobs on that Truth thing. I know, everyone on this blog thinks I’m the nut job, because I come here like a Smeagol a talk to myself everyday, spewing my keyboard diarrhea like its worth $850 an hour. But that’s not it at all. I am mainstream, man. Joe likes showering with little girls, whats wrong with that. I want little boys in the girls locker room, whats wrong with that. You people and your morality, you’re all fascists and QAnon.
Why would DJT do this after he repeatedly said he would not go back on X? Why would I ask a question and then answer it myself?? Didn’t I mention I am a narcissist and a Smeagol?
But here’s the truth…hope you can handle it Jonathan
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
Theres a red under my bed
And there’s a little ORANGE man in my head
And he said, “you’re not going crazy, you’re just a bit sad”
“‘Cause there’s a man in ya, gnawing ya, tearing ya into two”
Here is some more breaking news for ya…not that I am prone to making sh!t up: Ray Davies says he is gonna have a fund raising concert for the Don’s defense fund. He gonna need it.
Off to whiffyoga!
Two days ago, the MSM was hyped with glee over a mug shot of DJT plastered all over the world to humiliate him. Today, they’re panicking that he’s using it to his advantage. What in blazes did they expect? SMH.
Let’s be honest here. Had Trump gracefully conceded in 2020, he would now be the frontrunner with no court dates on his calendar.
Trump’s predicament is a perfect illustration of how certain people wind up defeating themselves through sheer arrogance.
Yet Trump has managed to take hundreds down with him when one calculates all the prosecutions stemming from January 6th (plus all the injured cops and people who died that day).
But here we have ‘constitutional scholar’ Johnathan Turley telling us that Trump is simply too important to be held accountable for the January 6th disaster.
Had Trump been captain of an oil tanker that steered into a reef, and caused a giant spill, would Turley be saying, “Hey, we can’t hold the captain responsible. That’s just insulting to the position he held.”
You’re right. Questioning a stolen election is a very serious crime against our sacred Banana Republic when you’re not a Banana Republic-approved candidate.
So, our holy Two-Tiered System of Justice will show Trump and the majority of Americans who voted for him who’s really boss!
The videos don’t show us undercover operatives verbally directing the crowd into the Capitol, Capitol security opening gates and doors to allow visitors in, escorting the mentally challenged “Buffalo Head” into the Capitol Building, and that brave and courageous Michael Byrd murdering a defenseless unarmed woman in cold blood with a wholly unnecessary head/neck kill shot.
2020 wasn’t “rigged” and 2024 is not being “rigged” as we speak.
Oh, and 60 or 70+ absolutely guilty Deep Deep State operatives were prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law by the dogged John “Dudley Do-Right” Durham for conspiracy against a sitting president and the government in the ongoing Obama Coup D’etat in America.
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“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”
– Barack Obama
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“We will stop him.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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“[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”
– Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”
– Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
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“People on the 7th floor to include Director are fired up about this [Trump] server.”
– Bill Priestap
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The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history. The co-conspirators are:
Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,
James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic, Sally Yates,
James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,
Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,
Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,
Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,
Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,
Marc Elias, Igor Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan, Jake Sullivan, Strobe Talbot,
Cody Shear, Victoria Nuland, Ray “Red Hat” Epps, Don Berlin, Kathy Ruemmler, Rodney Joffe,
Paul Vixie, L. Jean Camp, Andrew Whitney, Lisa O. Monaco et al.
Thank you for this George. Great comprehensive list.
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You have no clue. Trump knows.
“Had Trump gracefully conceded in 2020, he would now be the frontrunner with no court dates on his calendar.”
Right — she asked for it because she wore a short skirt.
Kneecap Trump by any means necessary has been the Left’s corrupt premise since 2016. And it’s still the Left’s premise.
Jonathan: Getting back to the Fani Willis indictments there is one named co-defendant who has gotten practically no attention–it’s Rev. Stephen Ciffgard Lee, the pastor at the Living Word Lutheran Church in Orland Park, Georgia. In the indictment Lee is charged with “intent to knowingly engage in misleading conduct toward Ruby Freeman [the election worker who DJT and Giuliani falsely claimed was, along with her sister, stuffing the ballot boxes with illegal ballots] by purporting to offer help, and with intent to influence her testimony”.
Lee’s supporters are trying to raise money for his defense because DJT has left the pastor high and dry. But Faithful America, a Christian social justice group in Georgia, doesn’t think Lee is faithful to the gospel. They are calling Rev. Lee to be expelled from his ministry. A petition for his expulsion has already gathered 18,600 signatures. In a statement the Group said: “By participating in this misinformation and these attacks on democracy, [Lee] helped create that environment that led to the racist threats [against Freeman and her sister] and that political violence. Jesus stands for truth and not misinformation”.
The Q is why a man of God would get involved in DJT’s illegal scheme to overturn the election in Georgia? Maybe Rev. Lee thought he was doing God’s work. Will Lee flip or go to trail and raise 1st Amendment defenses? Can’t wait for that trial to be televised. Maybe God will perform a miracle for Rev. Lee.
Dear ‘Dennis McIntyre..’ it’s comments like yours that build the fake narrative of ‘illegal scheme..’ which means your doing so is an illegal scheme (using your logic…) If you bothered listening to the tapes with an open mind.. eg Mark Meadows call.. you would see that this was no different than what AL GORE did (..as brilliantly outlined by Prof. Dershowitz who was part of his team..) in seeking to find Trump votes they were convinced still existed in the cache of contested votes.. enough to pull him over the top…Nothing illegal or scheming in that… wake up!!!
Gore went to court, and that’s legal, just as it was legal for Trump to go to court.
But Trump didn’t stop at going to court. He tried to illegally pressure Raffensberger. He conspired to send fake electors. Wake yourself up.
Dear ‘Anonymous from the Darkside’ what you call ‘illegally pressure Raffensberger’ is part of the fake narrative… Alan Dershowitz explained that the determined enquires were legitimate, Exactly as they went at it in the Gore matter.. but here you are, fast sleep, telling others to wake up…
Trump to Raffensberger: “But I mean all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that.”
Threat? From the current President of the US no less.
I ask all of you to either listen or read the transcript of that phone call.
Trump absolutely tried to pressure him at a point in time – Jan 2 – where the election is decided and ALL legal recourse is over.. And Trump still will try to use the fake electors in the coming days (amongst other schemes).
That’s a scheme to defraud, folks.
Eighteenthhole: Anonymous has already responded to you. I ditto his comment. In addition, what Al Gore did was quite different. He ultimately conceded. He didn’t go to over 60 courts to try to change the vote outcome. He didn’t threaten a Secy of State to find just enough votes to win. And he certainly didn’t have his election workers break into an election office and try to steal or alter election data. That was only done by DJT. No, you need to wake up!
Hey Dennis the liar.
Which is the lie?
DJT mugshot looks nothing like AL Capone——Dennis
DJT mugshot looks just like Al Capone——Dennis
And this one
Democrats love violence when its for the right reasons—-Dennis
Trump is the only one calling for violence——Dennis
Break in——anther lie
That Dick Head guy and you sound exactly alike.
C’mon Dennis, give your keyboard a laxative and get in here and answer up.
There’s no evidence….
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It is sad when people say “no one is above the law” and then immediately tries to argue that Trump should be above the law.
I do believe Mr. Turley has confused the leftist’s seething rage with outright indignation on the right.
Mr. Trump has been continually, constantly, and ceaselessly surveilled and investigated (not to mention: hated, reviled, obstructed, stymied, etc.) since 16-June-2015. He has had EVRY and ALL 3-letter agencies scrutinize, analyze, and politicize his every word or action — going back as far as only God know when, and supplemented with God knows how many non-federal intrusions.
For all that investigation, they so far have only discovered that he is orange. I have had quite enough of leftists crying “wolf!!!!” Absolutely no one is above the law. We all agree. However, no one should ever be below the law. These persecutions are revolting, abominable, and destructive. The offenses against justice by the left are perverted, putrid, and vile.
I do believe it is nigh on time to stop being nice about rejecting the evil filth the left insists on producing and call it what it is: Anathema Maranatha.
The investigations have turned up reams of evidence of a wide range of Trump crimes. The facts are not in dispute. He did exactly what he is accused of.
No need for a trial folks. The facts are not in dispute. In fact Trump already pled guilty.
Yet the facts are in dispute. That’s how we arrived at this point.
Name a significant fact that is in dispute.
Name a significant fact.
“ Name a significant fact that is in dispute.”——-sammy
Only in your world can facts be disputed.
“I reject your reality and substitute my own”——sammy
I take your BS comment as you have nothing.
“I know you are but what am I?”
—Sammy
Donald J. Trump got pinched. And he took it like a man.
Trump has joined a unique group of superstars that have been arrested and had their mugshots taken. Among the celebrated superstars in this group are Frank Sinatra, Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Pressley, Johnny Cash, David Bowie, Mick Jagger, and Bill Gates.
Trump’s mugshot is simply proof that our sacred Banana Republic remains strong and our holy Two-Tiered System of Justice is working as usual. On balance, the blatant political persecution will result in even more votes for Donald J. Trump. This will force the Democrats to steal even more votes the next time around.
If you want anyone to burn things to the ground, you’re unAmerican.
There is a well-established history of people accusing others of being “unAmerican” turning out to be the worst kinds of charlatans — much worse than those they were describing as “unAmerican.” You might consider a different choice of words.
Absolutely. Americans must first declare the causes which impel them to separation.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
– Declaration of Independence, 1776
That depends completely on what you want to rise out of the ashes.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights, 1789.
Maximal freedom for individuals with a severely limited and restricted government.
– Taxation for only debt, defense and general Welfare
– Regulation of only the value of money, commerce among the States, and land and naval Forces
– The absolute right of owners to “claim and exercise” dominion over private property
No unconstitutional admissions affirmative action, grade-inflation affirmative action, employment affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, minimum wage, rent control, social services, forced busing, public housing, utility subsidies, WIC, SNAP, TANF, HAMP, HARP, TARP, FED, HHS, HUD, EPA, Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Labor, Energy, Obamacare, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Social Security Supplemental Income, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc.
Turley– “It is a mugshot that unfortunately will resonate with both extremes in our political system.”
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“Unfortunately”? I am not sure it is unfortunate. We need to wake about the ‘woke’. There is little room for compromise with those totalitarian thugs who have weaponized the government against the people.
Jonathan: When I say DJT intended his posed mug shot to incite his MAGA supporters, Sarah Palin immediately went on the right-wing podcast NewsMax and told the host Eric Bolling: “What the heck [classic Palin]? Do you want us to be in a civil war? Because that’s what’s going to happen. We’re not going to keep putting up with this…We do need to rise up and take back our country”. Pretty clear. Palin and the rest of the MAGA crowd want to take up arms and stop the criminal prosecutions of their cult leader. So it looks like DJT has already gotten mileage out of the mug shot.
But there is more BREAKING NEWS. DJT is back on Elon Musk’s “X”, formerly Twitter. That’s right. After a 21/2 year absence DJT posted his mug shot on X last night. Why would DJT do this after he repeatedly said he would not go back on X? That’s because DJT’s Truth Social is sinking into irrelevance and has only attracted QAnon followers and other right wing fascist nuts. DJT knows he needs a wider audience and that is only on X. And disappointed that only a few hundred of his followers showed up for his booking at the Fulton County jail, DJT decided it was time to get back on X.
In addition to his mug shot DJT provided a link to his legal defense fund website. He immediately got about 388,000 hits. How many will actually donate is uncertain. But one thing is clear. DJT’s legal defense fund is fast running out of money and he desperately needs to fill the coffers. That means he has to swallow his ego and go back on X where he thinks there are more suckers. Great move, Donald, but maybe too late?
delusions yet unfulfilled : ” Pretty clear. Palin and the rest of the MAGA crowd want to take up arms and stop the criminal prosecutions of their cult leader. ”
We have another mind reader who completely ignores his nationwide demoncrat idiot armed destroyers of every city in the USA for over a year. Billions in damage and hundreds dead and injured. ALL downtown cities boarded shut in the USA because of the demoncrats taking up armed violence. His side does it, then he claims the other side “wants to”.
LOL. PATHETIC. GUILTY BEYOND BELIEF, PROJECTION BEYOND THE GALAXY.